Is the enemy stun immune? If no, move onto the next question. Does the enemy have a long attack wind up? If yes, move onto next question. Do you have Hoederer? If yes, deploy Hoederer.
The more I see the stronger my opinion of "the less you treat him like a laneholder, the better he is". Like NTR, while she *can* lanehold it's not what she excels at. S1M3 solos JT8-3 Talulah with the exclusive support being healing for meteors. S2 is great at stalling slow attackers. S3M3 is 10 second charge up for absurd amounts of physical damage for the 2 tiles ahead.
Should be said Talulah is a best case scenario fight for him since she does true damage instead of def or arts based damage. True damage is best mitigated by pure HP, which Hoederer has.
@@yiraw He is a male in a very unpopular archetype. Even a best case scenario is still a scenario where he is used instead of being "free banner, don't even bother pulling" like Stainless was.
I mean, people kind of give crap to some laneholders, is not like that's their only job (specially in such a versatile game) Like realistically, you almost never need more than mountain, blaze, gavialter or thorns in a team to fill the laneholder role (+extra tile, extra damage and range in some cases) I doubt anyone but someome who doesn't have any laneholder would actually give hoederer that role
@@twittwitmf3258 Sure, but do we NEED to actually try against those? Like who cares if he melts against trash. We can wipe trash with random four stars xD
I kinda adore watching the mudrock golem just stand there looking silly lol Also all the people going like "CAN'T USE WITHOUT HEALS"... So many characters suck without heals xD... Also the ones that don't aren't generally good at other things, though there are exceptions. But yeah let's be fair for one second and remember that there are other showcases of his s3 where he doesn't have heals against some decently strong enemies.
@@obsiangravelCh'en's module should make it so that she stuns for a second between HOEMAN's stuns. Would have actually been incredible useful for CC#12...what a shame.
They're all good enough at dealing damage, it's the staying alive part that they're horrendous at. Skalter (and ONLY Skalter) followed him everywhere to try and mitigate that
Say, can we aleviate the aspd slow with ange or aak for short burst? Might not be relevant but i wanna see him attack at very high speed to perma stun anything on is
@SweetReligion Her module give a flat starting DEF to anyone within her range though. Pair her with Nian and it should be close to 250 DEF or so. He has half the DEF he needs but twice the HP so it should even out. EDIT: Got curious and did the math below in another comment. tl;dr: as long as HOEMAN is E2L80 at least, then it doesn't matter what skill or module you use as long as Shining is present period and her module is maxed.
I just watched him in an s3 showcase with no healer killing stuff like those sarkaz knights in Kazimierz. It ain't black and white sir xD. Not to mention against mudrock and her golems he basically only took damage from the turret most of the time xD
@@narius_jaden215 to be fair during his s3 he has +60% max HP and heals 5% per atk, for his s2 all he has for his own survivability is the consistent stun
Holy shit this is such a room-temperature-IQ take Especially since Blaze just got a module that even gives her aspd and increases her dps by a good amount actually. You might want to meme but at least put some effort in your comments sheesh
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Hoederer be like:
*Unlimited Stun Works*
One must imagine mudrock colossus happy
I like how Mountain effectively dealt with at least 80% of the elite enemies at the first stage
There are also Skadi alter and Eja healer so yeh
Typical Mountain. Let them get the spotlight & my man will clean up the trash 😂
So he will be very useful on IS, since there are a lot of Attack speed modifier on that mode.
Is the enemy stun immune? If no, move onto the next question.
Does the enemy have a long attack wind up? If yes, move onto next question.
Do you have Hoederer? If yes, deploy Hoederer.
The more I see the stronger my opinion of "the less you treat him like a laneholder, the better he is". Like NTR, while she *can* lanehold it's not what she excels at.
S1M3 solos JT8-3 Talulah with the exclusive support being healing for meteors.
S2 is great at stalling slow attackers.
S3M3 is 10 second charge up for absurd amounts of physical damage for the 2 tiles ahead.
Should be said Talulah is a best case scenario fight for him since she does true damage instead of def or arts based damage. True damage is best mitigated by pure HP, which Hoederer has.
@@yiraw He is a male in a very unpopular archetype. Even a best case scenario is still a scenario where he is used instead of being "free banner, don't even bother pulling" like Stainless was.
@@kholdstare90Stainless is good lmao what
@@kholdstare90Stainless is my bro dude yeesh
I mean, people kind of give crap to some laneholders, is not like that's their only job (specially in such a versatile game)
Like realistically, you almost never need more than mountain, blaze, gavialter or thorns in a team to fill the laneholder role (+extra tile, extra damage and range in some cases)
I doubt anyone but someome who doesn't have any laneholder would actually give hoederer that role
That's a lot of stun
Hoederer when he has to fight a bunch dogs instead of giant rock golems, a war mech and an ex war veteran:
Or a bunch of lizards. Fr tho it's hilarious seeing him melt against the lizard spear throwers
@@twittwitmf3258 Sure, but do we NEED to actually try against those?
Like who cares if he melts against trash. We can wipe trash with random four stars xD
I feel like this video just unironically showcased how broken Eyja alter is, she basically make everyone in her range unkillable.
We need to see Aak-dere
Poor steam knight and now I wonder if he can solo emperor fart blade🤔😂
Im pretty sure the fart guy is stun immune. And Hoe will get farted by him and immediately dies anyway...
@@Hindshell5438 oh dang. That piece of fart really hard to kill huh not only immune to stun he just immediately kill everyone 💀
There's a reason why they are powerful both in game and in lore
Their fart is so strong that it can send you directly to jesus
@sw4gsmile595 but I worship Ishar-mla...? 🤔
@@DeltafangEXSeaborn detected, exterminating
I kinda adore watching the mudrock golem just stand there looking silly lol
Also all the people going like "CAN'T USE WITHOUT HEALS"...
So many characters suck without heals xD...
Also the ones that don't aren't generally good at other things, though there are exceptions. But yeah let's be fair for one second and remember that there are other showcases of his s3 where he doesn't have heals against some decently strong enemies.
His optimal partner is Ch'en S1M3. Together they will stunlock everyone into the ground.
More like Ethan s2m3, keep everyone stuck on the ground.
@@obsiangravelCh'en's module should make it so that she stuns for a second between HOEMAN's stuns. Would have actually been incredible useful for CC#12...what a shame.
@@DeltafangEX with the atk speed risk and increase weab atk speed, doubt it will work. Will be funny without getting those risks tho 🤣.
nah better put wendy s1, chen S1 sadly only targets 1 enemy
Finally, ONE useful Crusher archetype
They're all good enough at dealing damage, it's the staying alive part that they're horrendous at. Skalter (and ONLY Skalter) followed him everywhere to try and mitigate that
@@123goofyking Yeah! I don't think he argued anything against that opinion lol
brawler mfs when mountain came out be like
1:18 nah bro im having this man.He killed golem all by himself!
imagine having ASPD items in IS and Hoederer can infinite stun anything
What a staller we got
The afk bully against slow attack interval elite/bosses
You know he would made a great team with saliathe.
wow just how high is the stun chance %? Weedy S2 as impressive as ever
It 100%
Ok eyjja alter healing was broken af with skalter
that cake really is good 😌
Now imagine him with ASPD in IS 😏
이렇게만 보면 정말 좋아 보이는데...
Holy craps, I just noticed he has 6k hp lmao
S2 for mobbing and S3 for boss.
Wait, where I ever see this before....
*seeing Typhoon smiling in corner
.....Oh
mountain, but instead of healing, theres stun
.....? 재능에 기절이 있는건가
Holy sheesh bro can tank the Steam Knight pile bunker wtf
Stall knights is real
한무 기절 어욲..
Level 7?
유넥티스:?
Say, can we aleviate the aspd slow with ange or aak for short burst? Might not be relevant but i wanna see him attack at very high speed to perma stun anything on is
or Just test him in IS stages
Aak will kill him with S2 btw
not with shining@@TamamoNines
@@beer_4781Shining gives def based on percentage. Any percentage of 0 will still be 0. Unlike Nightingale who gives a flat res.
@SweetReligion Her module give a flat starting DEF to anyone within her range though. Pair her with Nian and it should be close to 250 DEF or so. He has half the DEF he needs but twice the HP so it should even out.
EDIT: Got curious and did the math below in another comment. tl;dr: as long as HOEMAN is E2L80 at least, then it doesn't matter what skill or module you use as long as Shining is present period and her module is maxed.
골렘 말고도 젤리 공속버프 받으면 또 가능해지는 것도 있을듯?
기절 면역 없는 몹 상대로 개사기 맞는 듯
이제 기절 면역 없는 보스 안 나오겠네
나오면 다 얘 선에서 컷이니
better than weedy S1
Worth m9?
I feel like this operator is broken.... infinite stun what the f
록라에서 공속벞 받으면 진짜 한무기절인가
외붕이 왜 좋아보이지?
기분탓인가?
ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 기절사기네
Very important to note how Skalter NEEDS to be there, because crusher guards get annihilated very easily due to their Zero defense
I just watched him in an s3 showcase with no healer killing stuff like those sarkaz knights in Kazimierz. It ain't black and white sir xD.
Not to mention against mudrock and her golems he basically only took damage from the turret most of the time xD
@@narius_jaden215 hoederer was on a healing tile in the sarkaz knights showcase
@@narius_jaden215 to be fair during his s3 he has +60% max HP and heals 5% per atk, for his s2 all he has for his own survivability is the consistent stun
Lmao, are you frigging kidding me ?!?!
Eyjaberry and skalter is enough to outheal through last steam knight level???
Eyja alter is broken, lol.
What’s his s2 though 😂?
stance toggle:
slower attack speed, +1 block, +ATK, every attack stuns for 1 sec
@@bakaoniichan193 wait, what is his normal block count
I mean when he is in e2
@@VanDO-Vietnam he normally has 2 block
@@VanDO-Vietnam 2 block. so with S2 toggled he is a 3 block
@@bakaoniichan193The +ATK is passive, not related to the toggle
너는 모오오오옷 지나간다
몸빵도 지리잖아
how?
When toggled, Every attack is a stun
But it exchange for lowers his Atk. Interval.
@@dennisdacillo6516you mean increased atk interval
Lower atk interval mean faster
Bro the colossus is trying to R1 out of hitstun 😭
RIP blaze 🥲
yeah man
🥲
What are you blabbering about? He doesn't even remotely replace blaze.
He is literally Anti-Blaze. He shine against slower stronger targets but sucks against basic mobs without supports.
@@januszpolak254S1M3:
Holy shit this is such a room-temperature-IQ take
Especially since Blaze just got a module that even gives her aspd and increases her dps by a good amount actually. You might want to meme but at least put some effort in your comments sheesh