Good luck trying to re-sell your car in the UK. No 1 MOST important option here is the panoramic roof. You also don't seem to know that this is the last generation for the ICE cars so your waffle about the GTS value compared to the next generation is completely irrelevant. I really don't think you know what you're talking about. This is just a video about what you like rather than what is useful for resale as your title suggests.
Thank you. As I consider my options you made very compelling points. I also appreciate you bringing long term resale market considerations to light. I look forward to watching your future videos.
From a resale POV: sunroof is a must have. I’d also get a set of wheels that fit the look of the car. (without going too crazy) Porsche wheels generally hold their value here in OZ (no idea why); Bose stereo; air suspension, seat heating. Colour wise it would be interesting to see what papaya looks like but for the same reason that there aren’t many brown cars out there, there aren’t many orange cars out there either. I also think that the GTS being in its last ICE guise has some merit.
If you really want the Gts Performance, you could get that with Chiptuning in the S. Since the last facelift they have the same 2.9 Litre Engine, and it works...
I partially agree with this take. I agree that an S is the best deal if not a lot of options are added. However, if you plan to spec out the vehicle with nicer rims, suspension, seats, etc. the GTS in my opinion is the best deal. I have a GTS on order and have optioned it out to a $95,600 MSRP. If every single one of these options are added to a Macan S, the MSRP is roughly $90k. The $5k price increase for a GTS in my opinion is worth it for the simple fact you’re driving a higher performance Macan. In addition, the GTS is more rare than an S and will most likely hold its value better. Nice review though, very informative!
The thing with the GTS (and also all other Macan variants) is that there won't be a newer version. This is the last ICE Macan GTS ever made. All will become electric in a few years time.
No hate to this guy but I tend to disagree with a lot of your choices and opinions on certain options, anyone interested in how to configure their Macan I would urge you to watch Nick Murray's video on it.
I purchased a 4cylinder base because I wanted a gas-miser economical car. It’s quick and zippy, but I should have bought a S or GTS because I miss the steering and power. Luckily I have a 911S.
Rubbish, What a mistake to build your new Porsche for the next buyer. If the next owner wanted everything on their wish list then let them go out and spend the money on a new one. Otherwise enjoy YOUR new car.
Yes totally agreed. Most who build aren't worried about price. They're building their dream car. Otherwise order it off the lot with a dealer spec'd on or try the used car market which will hammer any un-necessary options.
I have to agree, plus, I don't know if it's just me, but honestly if one buys a Porsche is not with the "save money" kind of mind if you want to save money you're not gonna buy a Porsche.
15:33 So if you select the Leather Interior / Leather Seats in Bordeaux with the 8 way seats you only get the inner seat and armrests in Bordeaux, but when you upgrade to either the 14 way or 18 way seats the whole seat turn into Bordeaux. The configurator is in fact correct.
Great vid. I have a question. I have porsche 911 and now I'm thinking of getting a car with more seats. I'm thinking Macan S(2022), Cayenne coupe S, and Panamera Sport Turisumo. Which one would you recommend and why? Thanks!
I bought my Macan S for 86k- Carmine red and fully loaded with options. Haven't loved something more. If you're going to buy a car for 75k, may as well spend the extra 10k to get everything in.
The presentation is highly useful for anyone looking to order a Macan and includes informative and interesting views whether the viewer agrees or not. Macan and "investment" is an oxymoron...still, configuring resale is a view worth consideration. The choice of drivetrain is well defended. In terms of color, luxury performance or Porsche specific statistics would be useful. Overall, time well spent for those considering a Macan.
Very helpful, Mark! I agree with most of your decisions. Except: orange IMO is a terrible choice for resale; it‘s like red leather, only a few people are going to want that. Midnight blue, vulcano grey and white/black are good choices. I agree with you on the chalk color. Heated front seats are a must option, back only for grown families. Many want the sunroof. And if you enjoy great sound, I would add the BOSE sound system. The air suspension actually is a great option if you use your car for the city as well as Autobahn and sometimes dirt roads . Personally I would ditch the surround view (nobody really needs that) and get the BOSE sound system and/or a sunroof instead. But as you say: This depends on your priorities and the region where you live.
Nobody notices the differences between manual and the three grades of power seats? The differences are obvious and significant. Good point on translucency of panoramic roof blind, except you harp on hot climates to justify skipping it, where drivers might appreciate the ventilated seats that you scrap. Front heated seats are standard on GTS.
I am glad that I have never seen a Macan speced this way because I don't think anyone would buy it. Some of the options you selected were useless and others that were great and you did not select was very strange to me.
You complain about the panoramic roof making it too hot but won't go for ventilated seats? Also the chalk color is extremely valuable in the Porsche second hand market. The torque vectoring is also super noticeable and anyone that wants to make use of the car on curvy back roads will notice. My dream spec in this car came out to $99k USD. Real spec was $85k.
I'd choose most of your options but would add lane change assist to warn me of blind spot drivers and add heated steering wheel for winter driving where I live. The darker blue and beige is a nice option and might be less polarizing for resale though the papaya orange is a nice look. Good review.
@Andrew Abbotsford-Smith I thought that was what lane keep assist does by warning you that your out of your lane while driving? While lane change assist gives you a warning of upcoming drivers on your blind spot when you want to change lanes by a warning light on your side view mirror. That's the way it read on the 700 dollar option list.
@@gregorytrane7828 yes lane assist or lane keep assist does just that. Most don’t get lane change assist be cause they can’t afford it it in the options list. They have a budget in mind. Much like adaptive cruise control where most folks just get cruise control and not adaptive cruise control with the 3rd middle eye.
@@shelloiluk I'd get lane change assist for added safety and drop some other option. I've talk to many drivers that wish they had that option on their vehicles. Some have had some accidents thinking they were safe to change lanes and were not. It should come standard on every vehicle as far as I'm concerned, like the back up camera which is now a standard safety feature in the U.S.
crayon/chalk is fantastic in person, but what I would say is go with what you like and have happy ownership, and do not look at how will it sale in the future, there are always people that will regard your choice as nice and will buy, well maintained cars will be sold no matter what color will be chosen
Im getting ready to order a chalk GTS and in my opinion its far worth it , time I fixed the S all I wanted it was just 4-$5000 difference and I love the outside trim much better on the GTS , and Im wanting it before the Macans go EV ,( until the ev fade wears off). sorry I like the sound of a gas engine , old school. my problem is Bose or Burmester , any thoughts from anyone ,ive heard both ways good and bad , one big thing is someone brought up get the insulated windows which make a huge difference in the sound either way. thoughts?
I hate to say this but unless you have owned one I'm not sure if you're qualified to do this video. Deviated stitching instead of 14 way seats? That's when I turned it off.
Many of the upscale autos are white with beige interior, ALL MY MERCEDES, PORSCHES AND BMW were WHITE/BEIGE. i don’t think i would have looked into any other combination, of course that might be just me.
Excellent guidance, Thanks. I agree with most of your analyses, just wanted to point out that my favorite color is white and with that a Sunroof with the dark glass gives the car a great contrast look plus the great open air option. My interior have to be beige and needs to choose 14 way memory seats that replaces the center portions of the seats with beige letter as the standard beige interior gives you those unattractive black fabric seat centers, etc.
I agree with you, now that the Turbo model has been discontinued. The wife has a 2020 Macan S, in Dolomite Silver, 21" Spyder wheels, "Leather Package" in Black/Bordeaux Red (it the US, it is red door handles, and the dash stays black, with all red seats, not red inserts like the configurator shown). You are incorrect about the interior for US market; the "Extended Leather" package has red leather everywhere, including the dash and cost considerably more. Premium Package (LED DDLS headlights, Panoramic Sunroof, Bose sound system, heated 14 way seats, LCA)... I am forgetting some other options, but she paid $79K for it. I just spec'd a 2022 one out with similar options for $75K. It is one of the prettiest combos I've run across and evokes the classic Porsche silver/grey exterior and red interior. I think it will do quite well in resale, if she ever sells it...
@@fatenhappy1 No. I’m in America. No diesel. The 2020 model year had the Base 4 cylinder (248hp), the single turbo S (348hp), the GTS twin turbo (375hp), and the Turbo with twin turbos (434hp). In 2022, the Turbo (model name) was dropped. Only the Base 4 cylinder, and the S (375hp) , and GTS (434hp) were offered.
I am buying a base Macan can you tel me which one of this config would you do with PN2HMRU2 or PNKYGIK3 keep in mind I live in egypt and prices are a lot different
It's tough to know given that different equipment appears to be standard in different markets. However, looking at it, I wonder whether it would be beter to cut the leather, black logo / designation deletion, and the sport wheels. And, instead put the money towards a Macan S. I'd also suggest that the color porsche crest, dimming mirrors, and LED headlight upgrade are unncessary. The LED one especially. For privacy glass, I suspect it would be better to get a tinting place to tint the windows. This is because the privacy glass might not be as dark as one would want, especially at the front of teh car. And, it owuld seemingly be cheaper to get a reputable shop to do it. For lane change assist, I also query how much real world benefit there is. The sun roof is a personal preference issue. Egypt is quite sunny though. And, the panoramic sunroof cannot be completely closed. The cover is a mesh cover that does not totally block light. Perhaps they have a better cover in Egypt. But, I wonder whether that would get annoying. In Australia, I hated the panoramic roof on the Cayenne I used to own.
@@motoringmark thanks for the reply I was thinking too to get rid of the PDLS + head lights but for tinting its illegal in egypt to do it unless its stock ,about the S I really thought about it but in egypt cars above 2000cc get a lot of taxes so it become very expensive ,I already got rid of the colored porsche too
Correct. The GTS seems a bit better value in Australia (I think). And, some of the options seem cheaper on the GTS than they are on the S. But, I had to choose a market as a baseline, so went with the US (if only because the US has 10x the population of Australia).
I appreciate the idea of trying to inform people on how to spec their Macan for resale value, but I have to be honest selecting that Orange color it's a huge paradox and completely contradictory to the purpose of the video.
You might be right. I'm happy to stand corrected. I suspect that appreciation will only apply to low mileage pristine items. And, even then, might just apply to very high end models, such as the Turbo GT. Luxury SUVs depreciate as luxury and performance improve over time. In a mass produced SUV, I'm not sure that an ICE really adds much uniqueness or nostalgia value. Many cars in this segement are just treated as replaceable Some old SUVs have been getting good money. But, as indicated, this mainly applies to top end examples. There isn't much demand for a SUV that has been driven tons of miles and/or trashed. So, if you got a good GTS and only drove it a little, then in a decade, then possibly it will fall into the collector category at some point. My personal prediction is that the ICE cars are not going to hold especially high value outside of supercars. And, this is because old supercars have value outside of luxury and performance per se.
I own a 2017 Macan S mint condition and only thing I plain to do to is add a front spoiler, change the rims paint of wrap it, change the wheels and have it tuned to bring up the HP but i love it
There is no next generation combustion engine for Macan. Porsche does not produce Turbo anymore, GTS is a replacement instead. So if you look that way, it is actually cheaper.
Both very fair comments. GTS has some nice things as standard. Some are not exactly necessary though. Sports exhaust, bigger whiles, PASM, etc. Some of the other options are also cheaper. So, it's pretty reasonable value. But, quantifying all the other upgrades is tough, so explaining them to a buyer can be an issue.
You're absolutely right about the Turbo. From my perspective, that's a point against the GTS. Because, now the old Turbo really is not any better than the new GTS. This automatically crunches Turbo values. And, this same process will happen going forward. Just my thoughts on it though. I honestly think both the S and GTS are well priced. Porsche's price positioning here is great and is better than usual.
The real question is whether to buy one now or buy the EV version when the EV comes out in late 2023. Will the ICE versions appreciate in value or drop due to the Macan EV? Where is my crystal ball….
It is very simple. Buyers on a budget can choose the base model to get the experience and wise buyers will go for the S and the GTS makes sense only if you really want it . Regarding specs the whole world seem to be obsessed with unnecessary features nowadays . Parking the car or keeping a lane all of a sudden became an obstacle to drivers which is a joke . Spec your car the way it becomes more desirable for you and focus on the specs you really need if it isnt about looks .
After watch the video, I feel you lost the point why people want to buy Macan. I think it is simply because they like the brand and sporty of the design. Not all about resale value! Macan is not cheap car, so why do they choose this over TOYOTA? That is just my thoughts. No offence
You're definitely right for a large number of buyers. They buy without caring about resale. Some - but not all - buyers will try to optimize the asset value. It's been front of mind for me when buying cars. But, absolutely, many other buyers just buy what they like and accept that depreciation will happen.
@@motoringmark I am actually one of them, I went to Porsche to cancelled the order for Cayenne GTS yesterday and replace by Macan GTS. I spec both S and GTS, price is not much differ. If I don't have enough money I will go for basic model, If anyone wants a bit performance then will choose S model but stick on the basic and add performance exhaust.
Evidently you have not owned a MACAN, our 2019 S is the best new car we have ever owned...no dealer visits for any problems...just the10,000 mile service, 20,000 mile service...and I am ordering a 2022 this week.... I would keep the 2019, but a 3 year lease on the 2022 and I'll buy it at the end of the lease AFAIC you can keep your "Lionel" cars...
@@danielkane292 I have a Macan GTS 2017 MODEL, It is 2.9 twin turbo. In fact, my wife is driving it now. I was planning to purchase Cayenne GTS, But now I order another 2022 new Macan GTS instead. Obviously, it is a great car and I really enjoy it. I never buy the same car in my life, I guess this is an exception.
Hmm don’t agree with most of your logic and choices. Sunroof a must, Bose sound system a must considering how bad the stock system is in, papaya?!! No way I would touch that color. Also rims make the car looks. You’re right about the sports chrono. Never never skip that if you own any Porsche
When you said you would skip the panoramic roof when talking about how to spec a macan for resale you lost all credibility. That might be the second most important thing behind body color.
True in general. I think panoramic roofs are big in the US. But, not in all markets. It would drive me insane having it though. So, for me personally, I wouldn't spec it. I hate panoramic roofs. In hot markets, I'd also say that the panoramic roof is not a major advantage. For eg, in Australia, it is less likely beneficial: AU has significant skin cancer issues, people have sun awareness drilled in to them, and there has historically been a hole in the ozone layer exacerbating this. Thus, I query if a panoramic roof is advantageous here.
@@motoringmark I have the panoramic roof and live in west central florida. One of the hottest places in the US and I have no problems with it. It doesn't heat up any worse than my other vehicles without a glass roof. Being in a macan without the roof is like being inside a bat cave. I'm also in the middle of trading mine in and was told the roof was important for top resale value. If you want to spec a macan for resale picking orange without the panoramic roof isn't smart.
Keep the person purchasing this car in mind. The average 2nd-hand buyer, you seem to be addressing is probably going to be a somewhat well-to-do car enthusiast / nerd in their mid 20s to 40s not interested in the electrification of vehicles but maybe can't afford a 911 or just needs something slightly more practical as a one-car-fits all scenario OR a typical upper-middle class soccer mom who doesn't know anything about cars at all and is just buying it "to own a porsche" If you're catering to say the first type of buyer, it's absoultely not true to say that they won't notice the difference between the base sound and the bose upgrade, it IS a significant upgrade. The second type of buyer isn't going to spend the premium on the S over the base model macan. The base sound system has no subwoofer. Most car enthusiasts are going to have experience in cars with upgraded aftermarket audio systems or higher end PC speakers or home stereos, and any car without a subwoofer is just not going to be thrilling to listen to. They will notice. Half the video you seem to base your arguments towards the first type of buyer, the other half of your video you seem to reference the second type of buyer. You correctly identified that the "real porsche nerds" are not going to be buying a mid-spec Macan S in the first place, so you're 100% correct about the deviated stichings and whatnot. What many people like to do when speccing their porsches is combine a boring exterior with a little more excitement on the interior, or they combine an exciting exterior with a little more sedate interior. So you'll often see red with a black/white/silver car, which I think that's when red is most commonly selected. Save 700 on the exterior color, spend 200 on the interior color (which also gets you some deviated stitching thrown in at a much better value than the deviated color patckages, and deviated stitching does look very premium on every porsche I've seen it on). I did disagree with your GTS spec advice, I think it's more of an enthusiast car and as the top-trim GTS "can" benefit from more options, whether you want to spec your GTS as a more luxurious car with full leather and the panoramic roof, or as a sportier car with the GTS sport package (talking about rare combos for the collector)... essentially last year's turbo for 15,000 cheaper than they CURRENTLY sit on car lots. (There is a macan turbo right now at my local dealer for 112,000... You can get the exact same car for 98,000 with the new GTS). Regardless of luxury or sporty, I think you should tailor the options one way or the other, but I think I'd definitely spec the GTS closer to 90-100k) and in the used car market, the GTS do continue to hold a premium over the S models commensurate with their initial price increase) That said I've talked to my dealer about ordering a 2022, and I definitely go back and forth daily about spec. My cayenne turbo is 10 years old now, and it's time to think about upgrading, and I don't really need the big size of the cayenne, and I am very happy with my daily driver not having things like sport-plus or launch control which didn't even exist 11 years ago when the car first launched. But I did like the video a lot and would watch more of your videos as long as you keep each video tailored for ONE particular type of buyer and keep it short and simple (under 10 minutes per type of buyer) For what it's worth, and I know my comment is a novel, I included the 2 ways I debate back and forth on speccing my own GTS here in the next year. Sporty www.porsche-code.com/PN79JCY9 And then more lux: www.porsche-code.com/PN2BV9B6
Ok video but generally disagree. I have a GTS on order but price diff is only £4K once I spec up an S with must haves. Also once you add the extras up on the S, it ends up having around £12k+ of extras - which ain’t good. You don’t generally get the extras back so ideally limiting that is best for resale. Decent wheels cost £1.4K, air suspension £1.2K, sports exhaust £1.7k, painted exterior package £1.1k etc. And most of this stuff is standard on the GTS. If you want a low specced S then it probably makes sense but not if you want lots of extras. Also last ICE GTS imo will have very strong residuals
I have been thinking about the same stuff. I want the gts so bad but I have been thinking hmm the s but by the time You configure it, you are better with the gts. What color did you get interior and exterior
Very valid point . Unfortunately for many drivers who aren't motorheads a fully loaded car with a weaker engine becomes the choice which is a pity . The GTS already has most of the important features as standard and it would be dumb to take the S to a similar price .
Almost everyone will spec sports exhaust and Air PASM on an S model. Both are expensive options and so the real-world price gap between S and GTS is much smaller. As the exhaust and suspension on S are optional extras, they won’t have much positive impact on the car’s trade-in value, further narrowing the cost-of-ownership gap between the two models. This is reflected in lease values here in the Uk, where a GTS is only about £100pm ($135 US) more than a specced-up S. My conclusion, go base model and accept it’s not a “sports car,”, or go full-fat GTS ie avoid S.
All good - possibly we've found different things work for different buyers. To be clear, I think options add value. But not dollar for dollar in many cases. Thanks for watching though :)
This is an expensive luxury car and you already paid for the big engine, why would you spec something like this in a poverty spec with plastic seats? The basic leather package and the 14 or 18 way seats are mandatory on the S. So are the heated steering wheel, ventilated seats, the noise insulated glass, rear sun blind, LCA, ACC, Surround View and the Bose sound system - otherwise you'll be out-specced by mainstream cars at half the price. If you tow you need the towing package and the air suspension for leveling. If you don't tow stick to basic PASM which is already included. Sports Chrono gets you extra fun at the grip limit but the Macan is not a sports car so it's not needed - if you must have the dash clock you can get it separately in the interior section. Much more important is the PTV Plus, better traction is a safety feature during the winter - especially if you don't use winter tires. Remember: you want the S to feel and drive like Porsche. If you can't afford to make it that way, buy a poverty spec entry level model or better yet, buy something else.
I completely disagree. You left out the suspension upgrades, brake upgrades of the gts, and sport exhaust that comes standard on the gts. Not to mention the exclusivity. I think you are dead wrong, and the best option for retail is a standard gts.
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Good luck trying to re-sell your car in the UK. No 1 MOST important option here is the panoramic roof. You also don't seem to know that this is the last generation for the ICE cars so your waffle about the GTS value compared to the next generation is completely irrelevant. I really don't think you know what you're talking about. This is just a video about what you like rather than what is useful for resale as your title suggests.
Thank you. As I consider my options you made very compelling points. I also appreciate you bringing long term resale market considerations to light. I look forward to watching your future videos.
From a resale POV: sunroof is a must have. I’d also get a set of wheels that fit the look of the car. (without going too crazy) Porsche wheels generally hold their value here in OZ (no idea why); Bose stereo; air suspension, seat heating. Colour wise it would be interesting to see what papaya looks like but for the same reason that there aren’t many brown cars out there, there aren’t many orange cars out there either. I also think that the GTS being in its last ICE guise has some merit.
I just ordered my GTS with cooled seats too. A must in QLD. Also disagree with him on colour choice.
@@lukemoody1355 my man! what do u do for a living i want to learn from you so i can afford a gts too before 2024 when porche go all EV
If you really want the Gts Performance, you could get that with Chiptuning in the S. Since the last facelift they have the same 2.9 Litre Engine, and it works...
I partially agree with this take. I agree that an S is the best deal if not a lot of options are added. However, if you plan to spec out the vehicle with nicer rims, suspension, seats, etc. the GTS in my opinion is the best deal. I have a GTS on order and have optioned it out to a $95,600 MSRP. If every single one of these options are added to a Macan S, the MSRP is roughly $90k. The $5k price increase for a GTS in my opinion is worth it for the simple fact you’re driving a higher performance Macan. In addition, the GTS is more rare than an S and will most likely hold its value better.
Nice review though, very informative!
The thing with the GTS (and also all other Macan variants) is that there won't be a newer version. This is the last ICE Macan GTS ever made. All will become electric in a few years time.
No hate to this guy but I tend to disagree with a lot of your choices and opinions on certain options, anyone interested in how to configure their Macan I would urge you to watch Nick Murray's video on it.
Agree, he should find another hobby!
I purchased a 4cylinder base because I wanted a gas-miser economical car. It’s quick and zippy, but I should have bought a S or GTS because I miss the steering and power. Luckily I have a 911S.
Rubbish,
What a mistake to build your new Porsche for the next buyer. If the next owner wanted everything on their wish list then let them go out and spend the money on a new one. Otherwise enjoy YOUR new car.
Good point…
Couldn’t agree more buy the car for yourself not some theoretical future buyer….what a terrible idea.
Right on.
Yes totally agreed. Most who build aren't worried about price. They're building their dream car. Otherwise order it off the lot with a dealer spec'd on or try the used car market which will hammer any un-necessary options.
I have to agree, plus, I don't know if it's just me, but honestly if one buys a Porsche is not with the "save money" kind of mind if you want to save money you're not gonna buy a Porsche.
15:33 So if you select the Leather Interior / Leather Seats in Bordeaux with the 8 way seats you only get the inner seat and armrests in Bordeaux, but when you upgrade to either the 14 way or 18 way seats the whole seat turn into Bordeaux. The configurator is in fact correct.
Great vid. I have a question. I have porsche 911 and now I'm thinking of getting a car with more seats. I'm thinking Macan S(2022), Cayenne coupe S, and Panamera Sport Turisumo. Which one would you recommend and why? Thanks!
Love the red interior with crayon exterior, hate orange!
I bought my Macan S for 86k- Carmine red and fully loaded with options. Haven't loved something more. If you're going to buy a car for 75k, may as well spend the extra 10k to get everything in.
Hello Abhinav, what interior color did you opt? Did you add any options? Thanks.
The presentation is highly useful for anyone looking to order a Macan and includes informative and interesting views whether the viewer agrees or not. Macan and "investment" is an oxymoron...still, configuring resale is a view worth consideration. The choice of drivetrain is well defended. In terms of color, luxury performance or Porsche specific statistics would be useful. Overall, time well spent for those considering a Macan.
Thank you! I really appreciate the break down. It's hard to know what to pick.
Very helpful, Mark! I agree with most of your decisions. Except: orange IMO is a terrible choice for resale; it‘s like red leather, only a few people are going to want that. Midnight blue, vulcano grey and white/black are good choices. I agree with you on the chalk color. Heated front seats are a must option, back only for grown families. Many want the sunroof. And if you enjoy great sound, I would add the BOSE sound system. The air suspension actually is a great option if you use your car for the city as well as Autobahn and sometimes dirt roads . Personally I would ditch the surround view (nobody really needs that) and get the BOSE sound system and/or a sunroof instead. But as you say: This depends on your priorities and the region where you live.
Nobody notices the differences between manual and the three grades of power seats? The differences are obvious and significant.
Good point on translucency of panoramic roof blind, except you harp on hot climates to justify skipping it, where drivers might appreciate the ventilated seats that you scrap.
Front heated seats are standard on GTS.
I am glad that I have never seen a Macan speced this way because I don't think anyone would buy it. Some of the options you selected were useless and others that were great and you did not select was very strange to me.
Nicely done.
You complain about the panoramic roof making it too hot but won't go for ventilated seats? Also the chalk color is extremely valuable in the Porsche second hand market. The torque vectoring is also super noticeable and anyone that wants to make use of the car on curvy back roads will notice.
My dream spec in this car came out to $99k USD. Real spec was $85k.
I'd choose most of your options but would add lane change assist to warn me of blind spot drivers and add heated steering wheel for winter driving where I live. The darker blue and beige is a nice option and might be less polarizing for resale though the papaya orange is a nice look. Good review.
@Andrew Abbotsford-Smith I thought that was what lane keep assist does by warning you that your out of your lane while driving? While lane change assist gives you a warning of upcoming drivers on your blind spot when you want to change lanes by a warning light on your side view mirror. That's the way it read on the 700 dollar option list.
@@gregorytrane7828 yes lane assist or lane keep assist does just that. Most don’t get lane change assist be cause they can’t afford it it in the options list. They have a budget in mind. Much like adaptive cruise control where most folks just get cruise control and not adaptive cruise control with the 3rd middle eye.
@@shelloiluk I'd get lane change assist for added safety and drop some other option. I've talk to many drivers that wish they had that option on their vehicles. Some have had some accidents thinking they were safe to change lanes and were not. It should come standard on every vehicle as far as I'm concerned, like the back up camera which is now a standard safety feature in the U.S.
No word about the glass can you heat it or tint it or sound proof it ? Important
crayon/chalk is fantastic in person, but what I would say is go with what you like and have happy ownership, and do not look at how will it sale in the future, there are always people that will regard your choice as nice and will buy, well maintained cars will be sold no matter what color will be chosen
Im getting ready to order a chalk GTS and in my opinion its far worth it , time I fixed the S all I wanted it was just 4-$5000 difference and I love the outside trim much better on the GTS , and Im wanting it before the Macans go EV ,( until the ev fade wears off). sorry I like the sound of a gas engine , old school. my problem is Bose or Burmester , any thoughts from anyone ,ive heard both ways good and bad , one big thing is someone brought up get the insulated windows which make a huge difference in the sound either way. thoughts?
I hate to say this but unless you have owned one I'm not sure if you're qualified to do this video. Deviated stitching instead of 14 way seats? That's when I turned it off.
Many of the upscale autos are white with beige interior, ALL MY MERCEDES, PORSCHES AND BMW were WHITE/BEIGE. i don’t think i would have looked into any other combination, of course that might be just me.
Excellent guidance, Thanks. I agree with most of your analyses,
just wanted to point out that my favorite color is white and with that
a Sunroof with the dark glass gives the car a great contrast look plus
the great open air option. My interior have to be beige and needs to
choose 14 way memory seats that replaces the center portions of the seats
with beige letter as the standard beige interior gives you those unattractive
black fabric seat centers, etc.
White & beige? Lol it's like wanting black & grey.
I would like u to spec out a new Turbo Gt Cayenne
Is it comfortable 5 seater? Because other reviews they said the middle seat does not have leg space ?
I own one, so my advice is: not really. Like most cars, it’s best for two people but can fit back-seat passengers in a pinch.
@@lbco5229 are u talking about macan
It is a comfortable 4 seater I just want to know about the middle seat leg space
It is comfortable for 4, if you are of average height and build. .
I agree with you, now that the Turbo model has been discontinued.
The wife has a 2020 Macan S, in Dolomite Silver, 21" Spyder wheels, "Leather Package" in Black/Bordeaux Red (it the US, it is red door handles, and the dash stays black, with all red seats, not red inserts like the configurator shown).
You are incorrect about the interior for US market; the "Extended Leather" package has red leather everywhere, including the dash and cost considerably more.
Premium Package (LED DDLS headlights, Panoramic Sunroof, Bose sound system, heated 14 way seats, LCA)...
I am forgetting some other options, but she paid $79K for it. I just spec'd a 2022 one out with similar options for $75K.
It is one of the prettiest combos I've run across and evokes the classic Porsche silver/grey exterior and red interior.
I think it will do quite well in resale, if she ever sells it...
PS ... The turbo is still current. It's included in the S and their is twin turbos in the GTS ... did you mean Diesel?
@@fatenhappy1 No. I’m in America. No diesel. The 2020 model year had the Base 4 cylinder (248hp), the single turbo S (348hp), the GTS twin turbo (375hp), and the Turbo with twin turbos (434hp). In 2022, the Turbo (model name) was dropped. Only the Base 4 cylinder, and the S (375hp) , and GTS (434hp) were offered.
Can you update this video with the macan t in it?
Forgot to mention the standard black brushed aluminum trim in the standard gts which looks better than the carbon fiber and the others
I am buying a base Macan can you tel me which one of this config would you do with
PN2HMRU2 or PNKYGIK3 keep in mind I live in egypt and prices are a lot different
It's tough to know given that different equipment appears to be standard in different markets.
However, looking at it, I wonder whether it would be beter to cut the leather, black logo / designation deletion, and the sport wheels. And, instead put the money towards a Macan S.
I'd also suggest that the color porsche crest, dimming mirrors, and LED headlight upgrade are unncessary. The LED one especially. For privacy glass, I suspect it would be better to get a tinting place to tint the windows. This is because the privacy glass might not be as dark as one would want, especially at the front of teh car. And, it owuld seemingly be cheaper to get a reputable shop to do it. For lane change assist, I also query how much real world benefit there is.
The sun roof is a personal preference issue. Egypt is quite sunny though. And, the panoramic sunroof cannot be completely closed. The cover is a mesh cover that does not totally block light. Perhaps they have a better cover in Egypt. But, I wonder whether that would get annoying. In Australia, I hated the panoramic roof on the Cayenne I used to own.
@@motoringmark thanks for the reply I was thinking too to get rid of the PDLS + head lights but for tinting its illegal in egypt to do it unless its stock ,about the S I really thought about it but in egypt cars above 2000cc get a lot of taxes so it become very expensive ,I already got rid of the colored porsche too
Don’t buy a base save harder and buy the S I’ve had the S and just sold my 992 S I’m waiting for the 2023 electric Macan
GTS quite different with Australia version, some options and standard here
Correct. The GTS seems a bit better value in Australia (I think). And, some of the options seem cheaper on the GTS than they are on the S. But, I had to choose a market as a baseline, so went with the US (if only because the US has 10x the population of Australia).
Love my crayon exterior and red and black companion interior, orange color is ugly to me
Agree
I appreciate the idea of trying to inform people on how to spec their Macan for resale value, but I have to be honest selecting that Orange color it's a huge paradox and completely contradictory to the purpose of the video.
I get the intent but optimizing for resale value is like training your significant other for their next one lol
Adding options for resale value is a bit silly from my math, most options are worthless on the used market best I can tell.
Next generation will be all electric and the GTS will be the most coveted… the last of the internal combustion engine.
You might be right. I'm happy to stand corrected.
I suspect that appreciation will only apply to low mileage pristine items. And, even then, might just apply to very high end models, such as the Turbo GT. Luxury SUVs depreciate as luxury and performance improve over time. In a mass produced SUV, I'm not sure that an ICE really adds much uniqueness or nostalgia value. Many cars in this segement are just treated as replaceable
Some old SUVs have been getting good money. But, as indicated, this mainly applies to top end examples. There isn't much demand for a SUV that has been driven tons of miles and/or trashed. So, if you got a good GTS and only drove it a little, then in a decade, then possibly it will fall into the collector category at some point.
My personal prediction is that the ICE cars are not going to hold especially high value outside of supercars. And, this is because old supercars have value outside of luxury and performance per se.
Right on ...
Wait till the 2023 electric. I just sold my 992 S 911 S 2020 so I’m waiting till 2030 electric macan
I own a 2017 Macan S mint condition and only thing I plain to do to is add a front spoiler, change the rims paint of wrap it, change the wheels and have it tuned to bring up the HP but i love it
There is no next generation combustion engine for Macan. Porsche does not produce Turbo anymore, GTS is a replacement instead. So if you look that way, it is actually cheaper.
If you have to spec to GTS level, your S price will be pretty much the same, but performance is lower.
Both very fair comments. GTS has some nice things as standard. Some are not exactly necessary though. Sports exhaust, bigger whiles, PASM, etc. Some of the other options are also cheaper. So, it's pretty reasonable value. But, quantifying all the other upgrades is tough, so explaining them to a buyer can be an issue.
You're absolutely right about the Turbo.
From my perspective, that's a point against the GTS. Because, now the old Turbo really is not any better than the new GTS. This automatically crunches Turbo values. And, this same process will happen going forward.
Just my thoughts on it though. I honestly think both the S and GTS are well priced. Porsche's price positioning here is great and is better than usual.
@@motoringmark You're right, I agree with you, not only Macan, Cayenne has the same issue. Now they bring the GT
The real question is whether to buy one now or buy the EV version when the EV comes out in late 2023. Will the ICE versions appreciate in value or drop due to the Macan EV? Where is my crystal ball….
It is very simple. Buyers on a budget can choose the base model to get the experience and wise buyers will go for the S and the GTS makes sense only if you really want it . Regarding specs the whole world seem to be obsessed with unnecessary features nowadays . Parking the car or keeping a lane all of a sudden became an obstacle to drivers which is a joke . Spec your car the way it becomes more desirable for you and focus on the specs you really need if it isnt about looks .
After watch the video, I feel you lost the point why people want to buy Macan. I think it is simply because they like the brand and sporty of the design. Not all about resale value! Macan is not cheap car, so why do they choose this over TOYOTA? That is just my thoughts. No offence
You're definitely right for a large number of buyers. They buy without caring about resale.
Some - but not all - buyers will try to optimize the asset value. It's been front of mind for me when buying cars. But, absolutely, many other buyers just buy what they like and accept that depreciation will happen.
@@motoringmark I am actually one of them, I went to Porsche to cancelled the order for Cayenne GTS yesterday and replace by Macan GTS. I spec both S and GTS, price is not much differ. If I don't have enough money I will go for basic model, If anyone wants a bit performance then will choose S model but stick on the basic and add performance exhaust.
Evidently you have not owned a MACAN, our 2019 S is the best new car we have ever owned...no dealer visits for any problems...just the10,000 mile service, 20,000 mile service...and I am ordering a 2022 this week.... I would keep the 2019, but a 3 year lease on the 2022 and I'll buy it at the end of the lease
AFAIC you can keep your "Lionel" cars...
@@danielkane292 I have a Macan GTS 2017 MODEL, It is 2.9 twin turbo. In fact, my wife is driving it now. I was planning to purchase Cayenne GTS, But now I order another 2022 new Macan GTS instead. Obviously, it is a great car and I really enjoy it. I never buy the same car in my life, I guess this is an exception.
Hmm don’t agree with most of your logic and choices.
Sunroof a must, Bose sound system a must considering how bad the stock system is in, papaya?!! No way I would touch that color.
Also rims make the car looks.
You’re right about the sports chrono. Never never skip that if you own any Porsche
When you said you would skip the panoramic roof when talking about how to spec a macan for resale you lost all credibility. That might be the second most important thing behind body color.
True in general. I think panoramic roofs are big in the US. But, not in all markets. It would drive me insane having it though. So, for me personally, I wouldn't spec it. I hate panoramic roofs.
In hot markets, I'd also say that the panoramic roof is not a major advantage. For eg, in Australia, it is less likely beneficial: AU has significant skin cancer issues, people have sun awareness drilled in to them, and there has historically been a hole in the ozone layer exacerbating this. Thus, I query if a panoramic roof is advantageous here.
@@motoringmark I have the panoramic roof and live in west central florida. One of the hottest places in the US and I have no problems with it. It doesn't heat up any worse than my other vehicles without a glass roof. Being in a macan without the roof is like being inside a bat cave. I'm also in the middle of trading mine in and was told the roof was important for top resale value. If you want to spec a macan for resale picking orange without the panoramic roof isn't smart.
he lost credibility when he skipped the GTS
The question you need to ask your self is this. Am I buying the car for me to enjoy, or am I buying this car for someone else to enjoy?
Keep the person purchasing this car in mind. The average 2nd-hand buyer, you seem to be addressing is probably going to be a somewhat well-to-do car enthusiast / nerd in their mid 20s to 40s not interested in the electrification of vehicles but maybe can't afford a 911 or just needs something slightly more practical as a one-car-fits all scenario OR a typical upper-middle class soccer mom who doesn't know anything about cars at all and is just buying it "to own a porsche" If you're catering to say the first type of buyer, it's absoultely not true to say that they won't notice the difference between the base sound and the bose upgrade, it IS a significant upgrade. The second type of buyer isn't going to spend the premium on the S over the base model macan. The base sound system has no subwoofer. Most car enthusiasts are going to have experience in cars with upgraded aftermarket audio systems or higher end PC speakers or home stereos, and any car without a subwoofer is just not going to be thrilling to listen to. They will notice. Half the video you seem to base your arguments towards the first type of buyer, the other half of your video you seem to reference the second type of buyer. You correctly identified that the "real porsche nerds" are not going to be buying a mid-spec Macan S in the first place, so you're 100% correct about the deviated stichings and whatnot.
What many people like to do when speccing their porsches is combine a boring exterior with a little more excitement on the interior, or they combine an exciting exterior with a little more sedate interior. So you'll often see red with a black/white/silver car, which I think that's when red is most commonly selected. Save 700 on the exterior color, spend 200 on the interior color (which also gets you some deviated stitching thrown in at a much better value than the deviated color patckages, and deviated stitching does look very premium on every porsche I've seen it on).
I did disagree with your GTS spec advice, I think it's more of an enthusiast car and as the top-trim GTS "can" benefit from more options, whether you want to spec your GTS as a more luxurious car with full leather and the panoramic roof, or as a sportier car with the GTS sport package (talking about rare combos for the collector)... essentially last year's turbo for 15,000 cheaper than they CURRENTLY sit on car lots. (There is a macan turbo right now at my local dealer for 112,000... You can get the exact same car for 98,000 with the new GTS). Regardless of luxury or sporty, I think you should tailor the options one way or the other, but I think I'd definitely spec the GTS closer to 90-100k) and in the used car market, the GTS do continue to hold a premium over the S models commensurate with their initial price increase) That said I've talked to my dealer about ordering a 2022, and I definitely go back and forth daily about spec. My cayenne turbo is 10 years old now, and it's time to think about upgrading, and I don't really need the big size of the cayenne, and I am very happy with my daily driver not having things like sport-plus or launch control which didn't even exist 11 years ago when the car first launched.
But I did like the video a lot and would watch more of your videos as long as you keep each video tailored for ONE particular type of buyer and keep it short and simple (under 10 minutes per type of buyer)
For what it's worth, and I know my comment is a novel, I included the 2 ways I debate back and forth on speccing my own GTS here in the next year.
Sporty
www.porsche-code.com/PN79JCY9
And then more lux:
www.porsche-code.com/PN2BV9B6
You lost me at papaya...
Ok video but generally disagree. I have a GTS on order but price diff is only £4K once I spec up an S with must haves. Also once you add the extras up on the S, it ends up having around £12k+ of extras - which ain’t good. You don’t generally get the extras back so ideally limiting that is best for resale. Decent wheels cost £1.4K, air suspension £1.2K, sports exhaust £1.7k, painted exterior package £1.1k etc. And most of this stuff is standard on the GTS. If you want a low specced S then it probably makes sense but not if you want lots of extras. Also last ICE GTS imo will have very strong residuals
I have been thinking about the same stuff. I want the gts so bad but I have been thinking hmm the s but by the time
You configure it, you are better with the gts. What color did you get interior and exterior
@@tosyn05 went for dolomite silver with black wheels, black interior.
Very valid point . Unfortunately for many drivers who aren't motorheads a fully loaded car with a weaker engine becomes the choice which is a pity . The GTS already has most of the important features as standard and it would be dumb to take the S to a similar price .
Almost everyone will spec sports exhaust and Air PASM on an S model. Both are expensive options and so the real-world price gap between S and GTS is much smaller. As the exhaust and suspension on S are optional extras, they won’t have much positive impact on the car’s trade-in value, further narrowing the cost-of-ownership gap between the two models. This is reflected in lease values here in the Uk, where a GTS is only about £100pm ($135 US) more than a specced-up S. My conclusion, go base model and accept it’s not a “sports car,”, or go full-fat GTS ie avoid S.
i disagree in so many ways even for specing for resale vale.
All good - possibly we've found different things work for different buyers. To be clear, I think options add value. But not dollar for dollar in many cases. Thanks for watching though :)
This is an expensive luxury car and you already paid for the big engine, why would you spec something like this in a poverty spec with plastic seats? The basic leather package and the 14 or 18 way seats are mandatory on the S. So are the heated steering wheel, ventilated seats, the noise insulated glass, rear sun blind, LCA, ACC, Surround View and the Bose sound system - otherwise you'll be out-specced by mainstream cars at half the price. If you tow you need the towing package and the air suspension for leveling. If you don't tow stick to basic PASM which is already included. Sports Chrono gets you extra fun at the grip limit but the Macan is not a sports car so it's not needed - if you must have the dash clock you can get it separately in the interior section. Much more important is the PTV Plus, better traction is a safety feature during the winter - especially if you don't use winter tires. Remember: you want the S to feel and drive like Porsche. If you can't afford to make it that way, buy a poverty spec entry level model or better yet, buy something else.
How does 1.4 seconds better matter ? When is that important during 90% driving situations ? It’s an suv! 🤦🏻♂️
The same things are repeatedly endlessly in this
I completely disagree. You left out the suspension upgrades, brake upgrades of the gts, and sport exhaust that comes standard on the gts. Not to mention the exclusivity. I think you are dead wrong, and the best option for retail is a standard gts.
Maybe the gts plus premium package. I don’t like the sunroof, but the bose and heated and cooled 14 ways are awesome
This is stupid, a SUV without sunroof loses the whole premium pack at sales.
Orange and those wheels plz don’t design my vehicle
a GTS without GTS package is a rubish resale car.
No sunroof?? Rubbish. Just limited the buyers when you sell it by 95%..
This guy never bought a new car! don't do this sh...tty config!!! Greetings from switzerland!