What I love about this particular theme is that it isn't insanely grandiose or violent or volatile. No, it's exalted, it's celebratory, it's melodic. Stark difference from Scaramouche last time. As a Reminder I now stream Genshin Impact on www.twitch.tv/marcomeatball and have a vods channel th-cam.com/users/marcomeatballvods
This quest dropped so much lore. So MUCH. Chasm lore. Sumeru rainforest lore. Desert lore. The moment when the dragon appeared was genuinely terrifying.
I think that something that I don’t see commented as often is how the wind instrument in the first version actually sounds out of tune and only sounds properly in the second version, which knowing hoyoverse, is definitely made with the intention of symbolizing the boss’s condition while you’re fighting it, without getting too much into spoiler territory.
Yeah. I just heard it and thought "that's an interesting composing/writing technique" because it doesn't just sound out of tune, it sounds intentionally out of tune
yes, and that happened with scara's theme too, many ppl said it felt "unfinished" but thats literally the point, thats what ur suppose to feel, he's incomplete, a false god
@@ian3523 do you mean the midi version or the complete 1st phase? Because to me that doesn’t feel unfinished at all. To me it feels more like a preparation of sorts, like the music is building up towards something, which makes a lot of sense within the context of the bossfight
It happened again. Like with the Scaramouche Boss Battle theme, i kept shielding and healing just to listen to the boss theme for as long as i could. The music, the scenery, the enemy itself being beautifully detailed and animated. I can't help but notice that this game is changing me, from a "gamer" to a "art appreciator". What a beautiful time to be alive
Apparently this theme, unlike other weekly boss themes (and many battle themes too) that are finished pieces with a very clear end, is designed to be looped seamlessly. This is, while normal in most games, rather unusual for Genshin and apparently represents the difference in the lore behind this fight, far closer to Dvalin than to Signora.
its also includes the detail of lore Dragon Lords never die, they just rebirth in some time so the music also never ends, it justs starts from beginning sorry for my english
I like how the Guardian sounds tired/suffering in the first phase which can be heard in the flute at 1:20 but in its third phase, it sounds as if its more free and majestic which can be heard in the flute at 10:42
It's like "I'm back baby" after the 3rd phase. And it dance with us, but its dance give damage to us lol. Maybe it's like immune system and we're the vaccine? After immune system get used to the vaccine, they will still fight the vaccine, since vaccine is basically weakened virus.
That's because the boss we're fighting is not Apep. If it had been her-knowing she's one of the Seven Sovereigns which battled with the Primordial One and its Four Shades-we could've been buried deeper than in the Chasm's deepest depths.
With two exceptions, all the weekly bosses have themes that convey violence and will go, and this is because the reason the Traveler is forced to face them is to end the threat they pose. The exceptions are Dvalin and Boreas, one is sought to be saved but the situation is desperate, and the other simply challenges you to a duel. In my opinion, Apep's case is similar to Dvalin's.
As a bassoonist, it is really a treat and ear opener to hear a bassoon as the main soloist against the boss music, adds more to rich and utter melodic contrast to the environment of this piece. Being a bassoonist, you’ll only have some rare chances in spot light in modern day pieces, so, it is ever lovely to hear pieces like this; to provide notion to a not-so-rare though rich wood sound in an orchestra environment~
In the last phase there was a techno sound beep beep.... boop boop.. sounds like synthesiser. That was a really nice touch. It adds some future-ish feelings into this hectic song. I don't know how to explain it lmao but I was so hooked to it
It's veeeery Xenoblade Chronicles X, if you loved that part (like me) and haven't checked that OST out yet, do yourself a favor and do so. Marco has a full vod of it on here too with his reactions.
After thinking it through the past couple days, I believe it's meant to be representative of Nahida being there to help. Nahida has tons of technological connections, and she is involved in this boss just as much as we are.
I feel Apep’s theme mirror’s Azhdaha’s in a few ways. The heroicism in the second phase of Azhdaha’s theme mirrors that of Apep’s theme and I LOVE IT. Also the fact that with both Azhdaha and Apep you’re not fighting to kill or hurt them, you’re fighting to SAVE them. You’re trying to stop Apep from dying and with Azhdaha, you’re just trying to fulfill his contract. I love that about them and I feel Rage Beneath The Mountains is another song that is “our” theme.
Huh, I just realized all three dragons we fought, are all about saving them. [spoilers] Dvalin from the abyssal seal on his blood clot Azhdaha from his erosion and to finish his contract Apep from the corruption of the Cataclysm sadly we can't really save orobaxi since he be dead, but we did put the thunderous island to 'rest'
@@Yasha_U Coz Orobaxi isn't actually one of the Seven Sovereigns, they were born around the time of the Archon War, which at that time Enkanomiya was under the Sunchildren regime. Fleeing the war, Orobashi somehow ended up in the underground dimension that Enka is situated and helped with the rebellion that took place.
the first thing i did last night when 3.6 went live was play Nahida’s 2nd story quest and i was SO impressed with Apep’s theme! 🤩it’s always super fun to see how hoyo-mix incorporates photon of fluctuation into so many of genshin’s tracks and it really makes you think about the significance of this leitmotif and why we hear it so much 🤔
I love this style of your videos where you're not afraid to pause often, go back to certain parts of the music, share your insights in depth. That's what we're here for. This theme is very different from usual boss music and i agree, it represents not only the opponent but also us.
Congrats to Hoyo composers and Marco's musical talent. Marco was absolutely right about 11:30. It is "our theme" because there is a revelation and plottwist.
This feels like in many ways the culmination of all Sumeru music in one celebratory piece which represents Apep being THE Dragon of Sumeru. Also its always nice to see these pieces recall back to the OG battle theme with the Photon of Fluctuation which is there a few other pieces too. Due to the story reasons you're definitely right in this feeling more of 'our' theme than the Boss's, hoping you find out soon enough :)
I thought that after the weekly boss scaramouche, the guys from hoyo mix had reached their ceiling, but the new boss gave me a punch in the gut with the words :" You haven't seen everything yet."😮
it’s interesting to me that this is the first weekly boss theme to feature the photon of fluctuation leitmotif. idk what the significance is, if anything, but it is intriguing
perhaps this is something to do with that idea of this being our theme against apep. maybe, on some level, the photon leitmotif is, in fact, the traveler’s leitmotif (or at least one of them)
There's a different ferocity in this music, like quiet but overwhelming confidence. It's the sound of knowing your victory is assured as long as you don't lose focus
Despite not having our full powers yet, we defeated a sea monster and his wife, 2 dragons, 3 harbingers, the immune system of a primordial dragon, the Abyss Twin's liutenant, an Archon, the actual embodiment of death and God knows what else. We'll be damned if we fail Nahida and make her repeat Rukkhadevata's sacrifice.
The music captures the movements of the boss so well, it swirls in spirals, flowing, twirling and twisting. Just like the music, no separate parts but continuously complex movement with more and more details entwined into it.
I can't believe I was crying while listening and fighting. The nostalgia of the first battle theme, the epic swell and key change, the gameplay where we don't just fight the boss but also protect her. It just made me cry while eye framing the best of my characters Burst
Bassoons and oboes are some of those under appreciated instruments that when they shine they really shine and you wish you could hear more of. I also really like the triumphant brass in this song too, its so determined and upbeat, its a good change of pace from the other boss songs that are more moody and sinister sounding.
i love how due to the lore, theres definitely tension and stakes in the instrumentation but compared to other boss themes, this one is set from the rest. it feels less like you're fighting to end someone but it feels more like you're fighting to save them which makes sense story wise. its got such triumphant harmonic choices, it gives off anime protagonist power of friendship super move vibes. and marco you definitely aced the part where you said it feels more like our theme, the traveller's theme and the fight of the boss against our inevitable might much more than it is a theme for the boss against us. beautifully said. and for those who already fought this boss, im sure you guys are also catching the fact that the woodwinds and the tabla are also kinda representing the way the boss moves. all flowy and elegant, dancing around the arena as it fucks you up with the pillars and minions. another gorgeous analysis marco, you never miss
Bro this song is getting downloaded and added to my collection. It is stellar. Asia has been killing it with music lately, has anyone else noticed? Most of the best music I've heard in the past 10 years is by an Asian artist or draws inspiration from Asian art it feels like.
This one sheds more light on the south Asian side with the Hindu instrumentals. Sumeru as a whole has done a great job in bringing my country's music out into the world. Everybody knew middle eastern ost would be banger but I think Hindu music in general is very slept on globally and more people need to give it a go
If you want the final official version for download, I recommend waiting for the album, which should be coming out this patch cycle! (est. 1 month). It'll be included alongside a ton of the desert tracks as well. That is, if you can hold the wait. The thing is a lot of these are simply game rips when the album including the tracks aren't out yet. It's the reason why they have no proper theme name: the album gives them it. Though there are certain exceptions, like if a yet-to-release track gets featured in a concert or in-game event. Edit: it has since passed 1 month, the album is out. Listen to it NOW.
What I understand from this is : The phase 1 theme depict Apep like a terrifying enemy, as we can see with the flute reaching super high notes, almost unbeatable. And phase 2 is epic, it's glorious. I really have the impression of Apep and the Traveler going all-out in a very epic fight. This theme is definitely my favorite from the game. Oh and Marco, you probably noticed that phase 2 got repeated in this theme. The first you hear is the finalized, and the last you hear is the midi version, hence the different sounds Spoliers : Yes I know it's phase 3 and not phase 2. I also know that we don't fight Apep directly, but I want to avoid spoilers
The ending of this song has the same vibe for me as the primal dialga theme, just freaking awesome, the music in genshin never disappoints, and the fight was awesome and the story too :D
5:30 it pains me to know that his iteration is not in the finalized boss fight, this track is from the beta version of the boss, it sounds so fucking badass and inline with sumeru city’s technological feat with the robotic synth in the background along with the heavy muddy bass at the beginning, this version symbolizes the temporary Alliance between the desert dragon and the rainforest archon for me
Thanks dude! As a FFXIV player you always show me great gaming scores that I sadly would never have heard otherwise and that there are other great composers next to Masayoshi Soken!
Its honestly crazy how well the song tells the story of what is happening... At first you're fighting back to protect yourself, then you find a chance to save the dragon, to heal them. After phase 2, you succeed, the music almost sounds like victory and adventure in phase 3, then goes more menacing again as even if you saved Apep, they wont let you go without testing you.
This theme feels familiar, and balances that feeling of familiarity with something otherworldly. A story is also being told while we are fighting it - and that shows in the mood swings of the song. The "Photon of Fluctuation" is not only associated with the Traveller, but also Teyvat in general. Which is why I think a boss of this calibre and lore has that part. It's something related to the depths and origins of the world itself. Loved your analysis to bits! There will probably be an official version coming some time in the future - there's a part missing I think.
I just wanna say your videos on the genshin ost is what got me really into music. I love the way you interpret the songs and it gets me even more hyped afterwards when I hear them again while im playing. I love your vids :))))
The celebratory final segment of this piece almost brings me to tears. It's so emotionally powerful and you truly feel like you've conquered the unconquerable. The flute howling into the wind at 12:10 and onward gives me chills every time, almost sounding like the creature is thanking you for its freedom. Thanks so much for putting my feelings into words Marco
Bro I love this theme so much! Definitely didn't expect it to me so chill but just the amount of emotions it brings out is incredible, I'll admit this is the first time I've ever actually shed a few tears while fighting a boss ever, I won't spoil it but damn is it just heart wrenching the first time you do it, I literally just started running around while trying to handle my emotions and enjoy the song at the same time. This is probably in my top 3 genshin boss fights overall, the fight is fun and doesn't feel repetitive/scripted, the lore is fascinating the design is amazing and the music is a jam. Also am i the only one that hears a bit of fire emblem's battle theme in this? I don't know the specific song, probably in three houses game but it immediately reminded me of it.
"t's exalted, it's celebratory, it's melodic" I haven't done the quest or gotten to this boss yet but I did a little wandering around the new area last night and I came across a location that really I thought would have...kind of ominous music? But it doesn't. The music actually makes it feel like a nice, reflective, place to spend some time. It was this weird juxtaposition that leads me to wondering why they did it that way. Also: your reaction when the music suddenly gets intense was really similar to mine, hahah.
the boss fight was over so quick i didnt have the time to sit down and listen to it, im glad i can now also not spoilers but this quest was one of the few if not the only time(s) genshin was able to make me tear up
For me, I think there's a certain majesty when the Bazzoon comes in. Like "You and I, Traveller, are going to have a wonderful time dancing (fighting) in this encounter of ours" Then when the second phase comes in, that majesty turns into an awe-filled "Well, let's have this dance a memory for us to remember Traveller!" as the boss pummels you with more and more attacks like how you tend to get more erratic in dancing because what you, the traveller, and the boss is feeling in that moment.
Its definitely one of my favorite boss themes,funnily enough it was first leaked in 2.6,when the chasm was added,but it went completely unused until now Also,the very loud section is abit weird,its present inside the files,but it simply doesn't play in-game,it seems to be an adaptative theme that switches from a grounded version to an intense one
I'm so glad mihoyo brought attention to traditional Indian music through sumeru. We all knew middle eastern and Egyptian music were gonna be bangers but alot of times people forget that india's a part of Asia too and forget to represent their cultural influences into their animes and games, therefore stopping people from getting a taste of our nation's music. Not always do I give mihoyo a W but they've earned one for bringing out our culture and its music globally for people to see. Maybe now we'll start seeing more anime and games being inspired from our nation now too instead of just being overridden with high medieval, Japanese and Chinese fantasy. Good job yu peng Chen
My suspicion turns out to be true. I expected a desert boss to sound more Egytian, but it doesn’t, then I remember that Sumeru is still partially based on India. Tbh I think a majority of inspiration for Sumeru as a whole is still based on the Middle East, and I really want more India for it
Idk if it’s just me or wind instruments reminds me of serpentine creatures. Similar to Apep, the wind instrument also fits the Baizhu part in the 3.6 trailer because he’s associated with snakes. I think the reason might be because of the common depiction of Egyptian snake tamers playing the flute to “control” the snake
The music being so different from Genshins typical boss soundtracks, is I think a nod to the stakes of this battle being different as well. Spoilers: Since in this case, we're protecting Apep, not fighting them. The boss itself isn't Apep at all, rather it's the guardian of Apep's oasis. Apep is HUGE, there's no way we're ever fighting that thing.
@@luminessupremacy probably But like how dvalin is a male same with azdaha Apep has to be a female since it Spoilers Creates life in its body and it has an female voice in english Idk if japanese korean and cn also have female sounding voices
Overall I was really surprised at how much more relaxed this one was, just the melody and the movement-Like you said it was a lot like a dance and the fight felt like that too! It was nice to hear a different track and I’m excited to hear more of what this new region has to offer!
I just played through that boss fight after completing the latest story quest, and I actually didn't rush to finish the battle and just ran around while dodging (and learning) its attack patterns and also to appreciate the creature design and background music.
for me, the part your talking about in 9:33 is like the tension is suspended and pulsating in this state and in the actual boss, this makes sense because this is like the intermission phase where the boss switches up to a tower defense type mode! i realized it really adds to the listening experience when you know what the music is for, but good musicians can tell AND read a story within just the music. for intuition, u got the gist of the fight pretty damn well!!!
I really like the... sorry for my bad musical terms... the beep boops starting around 5:57. They remind me a lot of Nahida, and with her connection of knowledge to computer-inspired animations (keyboard, mouse cursor), I wonder if the boss is related to that in some way!
@@tiekogalaxylatte8839 actually he seems to be opposite to nahida's animations wich reference programing and also tied to irminsul s thematic, wich is also considered a computer. At the other end, apep has been there before celestia invaded, and as such he is more tied into the organic aspect, the dna helixes
With this music as a background, I feel very inspired and wholesome dueling with Apep. It doesn’t feel like a violent fight, instead a mutual and respectful recognition of each other’s power and strength!
I really like this one. I think those "synthesized" sounds are very computer-y kinds of tones meant to invoke the idea of information or data. Sumeru is the nation of "wisdom"--of knowledge, information, and memory. But it reflects those concepts both in human ways (academic learning, almost sci-fi information systems, etc.) and in nature (the patterns in nature, the memories of the forest, etc.) Without getting into story spoilers this boss has themes of "evolution" and "adaptation", and you can see from the trailer it has various helix motifs in it's attacks and the corkscrew-seed elements in the boss design--very literally the information embedded in nature. To me this song is very much about the clash and dance between the knowledge of man and the knowledge of the natural world and whether they can find common ground...
That part (after the build up and Return to calm … before the piano) teared me up 😢 not sure yet why for I haven’t played the quest but …. There is something tragic and the mob seems to be linked to nature…. So far it gives me corrupted nature entity vibes and I Love it !
Suffice it to say that Ive been obsessed with this theme. Another small note is that the end part is a transition phase between phase 1 and 2 and not to mark end.
I just finished the story quest where you fight Apep and I’m definitely glad that I experienced it in game before watching this video. Now watching your reaction to it, I am hearing these themes for the first time without gameplay sounds over it
The music is the first thing I start to analyse right after finishing the quest. While I hate the fact it's shorter than any other boss theme, I must say it's just as good and reached my expectations for 2nd Sumeru boss theme which use a lot of Arabic ish soundtrack. And notice how the climax sound a lot like Demon Slayer soundtrack?
I think this has become my favourite Genshin theme. It has a memorable melody and it steady builds into the booming heroic music in the 3rd phase, much like a seed growing into a tree. And to me this song has a lot of heart, which is fitting considering what the story behind this boss battle is. It's like the more you dance in battle, the greater your heart and emotions become, until every step taken in battle and every swing of the sword becomes full of what you are as a warrior and a hero.
I really loved how you are doing/showing information taken into the game music from mythology like Apopis and the fatui with commedia dell'arte, would love more on that.
That synthesized quality in the end is chef's kiss on top I tell you. It goes so well in line with the Sumeru theme and it's unexpected. And I'm not a huge fan of synth music, but in this case it's so well placed it's perfect.
To not spoil it, this reminded me of Undertale's "Hopes and Dreams" when I was doing this fight in the quest. The context is VERY similar, it's about going home, hope, love, mercy and sacrifice, and I was crying in the end.
this song goes hard it really paints a picture of a hero's battle almost like a test or a trial for the hero, I haven't gotten to the quest yet but I'm excited to see how it plays out. Also I don't know why but this gives me similar vibes to a zelda wind waker boss Molgera
I’m coming to this video hella late. I can’t express myself as well as you, but this is my favorite theme because it feels the most Adventurous. In the best way, this song says “you’re on a big adventure” and I think that’s beautiful
fun fact: this whole theme was originally a battle theme from the chasm that was scrapped. you can still find the old beta version on youtube. for apep, they remixed it with a more sumeru flavour. it does make it a little bit sad that this theme wasn't actually made for apep, but it's also a good thing because it means this great theme they composed but never got to use hasn't gone to waste.
Well, we don't know if it was actually scrapped in the first place. The original beta version had Sumeru elements as well (before Sumeru was even released lol), which was why people were speculating that it was a Sumeru soundtrack, and not for the Chasm. So there's a chance that this theme was meant for an earlier concept of Apep, and we now get to hear it in its full glory ;D
@@NijiKonohana it didn't have any sumeru elements. it was a very standard western orchestra sound with more piano than usual, which is the chasm's usual style: mostly western orchestra with extra piano. sumeru sounds completely different from that, it has more of a south asian and middle eastern sound. the unused track has nothing in common with sumeru music at all. the music also just has the same vibe as other chasm music. there's also the fact that the unused track is 4 minutes long: much longer than boss themes in genshin. it's also both phases combined into one track, which kindoff shows tbh with how short apep's second phase theme is. it's probably the shortest battle theme in the game, being 1 minute. boss themes are usually 2 to 3 minutes.
@@Pascll Oh when I said 'Sumeru elements', I wasn't talking about the instruments. The original beta version was using the usual Western orchestra, but the climax part of the song (around the 3:00 point onwards) had chord progression and tempo that is more closely associated with Arabic-style music. That was why there were already theories that it might eventually be a Sumeru theme back when the song was first leaked in 2.6. But again though, these are all just theories. We won't know unless someone from Hoyo-Mix comes out and confirms it lol. I won't comment on the length of the piece... There's no hard rule for it in Genshin. There are some environmental pieces that range from 5 mins to under 2 minutes too, so it honestly just comes down to how long Hoyo-Mix wants the song to last.
@@NijiKonohana environmental music has a much bigger length range, they can be long or short. but battle and boss music does have much more of a limited range to how long or short it can be. battle themes are all around 3 and a half to 5 minutes, boss themes are all around 2 to 3 minutes. environmental music has a different purpose from boss or battle music, so it has a different length range to suit that purpose. battle themes have a more specific range to their length because if they're too short, they could end up looping too many times, which isn't an issue that environmental music has, so it can be as short as it wants, as environmental music doesn't loop. the unused theme is much longer than any boss theme but it the right length for a battle theme, while apep phase 3 is much shorter than any boss or battle theme, so it'll loop pretty quickly if you don't finish off the boss quick. it's also important to note that the unused theme isn't cut up in multiple phases, it's one continuous theme. this is why I think it's unlikely that this was always meant to be two phases.
What I love about this track is that it presents a majestic presence whilst maintaining a sense of full control and strength of will, which I suppose is quite accurate to all of the relevant characters involved in this quest.
i really love the new area ost! i dont know how to explain it but its sounds so calming, the same feeling i feel when exploring dragonspine and tsurumi island, sometimes sounds eerie but not as much as the one in enkanomiya and the chasm and this new boss music! i havent fight the boss yet but this music sound different than the other weekly boss music, it doesnt make me nerveous like the others ww but still sound epic like a battle theme, also it sounds more heroism for me rather than villain theme ww anyway nice analysis marco!
I know this video is a little old, but I’ve been listening to this song again, and to me, the sound of the bassoon is the sound of the trees… I feel like, if you were to listen into a tree hollow, it’s the little that you’d hear.
I love hearing this song, and personally I agree with the way you've described this song. I also like to think it's a sendoff, now that this is the last boss of Sumeru, and we are now heading to Fontaine. We're ending it off with a dance, very fitting,
I haven't watch the video yet but there is also a beta version of this song that leaked about 10/11 months ago. It's still up and you can listen to that. It was originally going to be a chasm theme, so it sounds quite different.
As always, great analysis video Marco! I myself just finished the quest and was bobbing my head most of the fight, and to be honest... I have honestly been completely blown away with the amount, as well the sheer quality that the people who made most music for the Sumeru region have put in, i liked music in Mondstat, in Liyue(i hope that's how you spell it) as well as in Inazuma, but... Like... Sumeru music just feels much, and MUCH more grandiose at times, this, honestly just makes me more excited for future updates, as well as whenever Fontaine comes out, because as far as most gensin players heard from that one teaser video teasing all ACT names and main themes of regions, the music from Fontaine will definitely, and hopefully will surpass other regions. And i know that's already setting the expectations sky high but... I for some reason believe that they can be shattered and WILL be shattered with each/next new region added to the game, like how my personal hope is to hear so flamenco in Natalan, and Snezhnaya? Man... I honestly have almost no idea... As a person who've studied history and culture of ancient Rus, as well as history of Russia under the rule of "Pietr the 1st", i am very curious, anyway sorry for my ramblings, thanks for an amazing video once again!
The way I interpret when the western music kicks in - in this case the piano - is when the traveler's involved. The following hybrid signifies the involvement of the traveler into the matter of the locals.
Hey Marco thank u for that Reaction. I just got through all of the new region added in this patch. The music there is also really amazing. Had a weird Star Wars feeling throughout the whole thing. Have fun exploring! :)
my favourite boss theme so far, yu-peng chen has bested himself yet again. I'm absolutely in love with the combination of indian and arabic instrumentation with very classic european instruments, my ears have been blessed yet again 🛐
there wasnt a single use of Arabic instruments in this song ...Only Indian instruments like sitar bansuri and tabla were used...The main instruments which enhanced this song was Bansuri and Sitar...
What I love about this particular theme is that it isn't insanely grandiose or violent or volatile. No, it's exalted, it's celebratory, it's melodic. Stark difference from Scaramouche last time.
As a Reminder I now stream Genshin Impact on www.twitch.tv/marcomeatball and have a vods channel th-cam.com/users/marcomeatballvods
Without spoilers I just say that this boss battle is end of second Nahida Quest, being heroic and selebrate is totally in contact with quest fabula.
Without spoilers this isnt actually apep your fightjng but rather the guardian of something
the melody really reminds me of something, but I can't put the finger on it. Would have guessed Deltarune but apparently not
Seems everyone is mistaking this as "Apep's theme" since that's what leaks called it, but it's not actually Apep's theme
@@thelushoctupous let's just say, its her inner's guardian,,
phase 1 : you are fighting "apep" , phase 2 : you are healing "apep". and phase 3 : you are dancing with "apep"
You basically dance inside her heart with basically a part of her.
We never fight Apep, the boss is a guardian kinda like the mushroom friends but mutated
@@snowlynx1585 It's a piece of her.
@@elainasynranelt we can say that it's her... immune system lol. 🤣
@@Scatterblades I'm fairly certain that's literally what it is
This quest dropped so much lore. So MUCH. Chasm lore. Sumeru rainforest lore. Desert lore. The moment when the dragon appeared was genuinely terrifying.
The area theme hit so hard when the dragon appeared i almost shat my pants when i saw it
That dragon scared me ngl. Its just terrifying by how big her real form is, at first i though that's The dragon from Dragon ball series haha
Imagine if that's what we faced instead lol. Compared to dvalin, our characters attacks might look like ants trying to tickle that dragon lol.
Since the first time we met Raiden a scene doesn’t spoke me like this while playing.
The 3rd archon to go to other archon lands after zhongli and venti😂
You know it's good when Marco starts doing phantom conducting, it's the classical equivalent of playing air guitar
that's actually true.
I think that something that I don’t see commented as often is how the wind instrument in the first version actually sounds out of tune and only sounds properly in the second version, which knowing hoyoverse, is definitely made with the intention of symbolizing the boss’s condition while you’re fighting it, without getting too much into spoiler territory.
Yeah. I just heard it and thought "that's an interesting composing/writing technique" because it doesn't just sound out of tune, it sounds intentionally out of tune
@@atriyakoller136 that’d be a better way to put it, thank you
yes, and that happened with scara's theme too, many ppl said it felt "unfinished" but thats literally the point, thats what ur suppose to feel, he's incomplete, a false god
@@ian3523 do you mean the midi version or the complete 1st phase? Because to me that doesn’t feel unfinished at all. To me it feels more like a preparation of sorts, like the music is building up towards something, which makes a lot of sense within the context of the bossfight
@@jacobgym no not phase 1, the theme as a whole and especially the ending part
It happened again. Like with the Scaramouche Boss Battle theme, i kept shielding and healing just to listen to the boss theme for as long as i could. The music, the scenery, the enemy itself being beautifully detailed and animated.
I can't help but notice that this game is changing me, from a "gamer" to a "art appreciator". What a beautiful time to be alive
That is so lovely; it's enriching your life!
Apparently this theme, unlike other weekly boss themes (and many battle themes too) that are finished pieces with a very clear end, is designed to be looped seamlessly. This is, while normal in most games, rather unusual for Genshin and apparently represents the difference in the lore behind this fight, far closer to Dvalin than to Signora.
Well it is connected to the dragons than fatui
apropos "loop": historic apep's/apophis' snake tail is also depicted as a neverending loop
@@blueberry3717 snake also symbolized immortality and rebirth in some areas (like Sumeria and Babylonia)
Not for Destiny
its also includes the detail of lore
Dragon Lords never die, they just rebirth in some time
so the music also never ends, it justs starts from beginning
sorry for my english
I like how the Guardian sounds tired/suffering in the first phase which can be heard in the flute at 1:20 but in its third phase, it sounds as if its more free and majestic which can be heard in the flute at 10:42
It's like "I'm back baby" after the 3rd phase. And it dance with us, but its dance give damage to us lol. Maybe it's like immune system and we're the vaccine? After immune system get used to the vaccine, they will still fight the vaccine, since vaccine is basically weakened virus.
yeah it feels like the early part is her desperation but eventually turned into a test of courage after we healed her.
When the opera singer starts vibing hard you know thats some real good shit
trueeeee
Apep feels really laid back compared to the other weekly bosses. But that piece of music that is louder than the rest of the OST hits hard.
Listen the one we fight is not apep...
Thats the guardian of the oasis
Apep is Soo hugeeee
@@synthesissixtyfive22 We're basically fighting Apep's immune system
That's because the boss we're fighting is not Apep. If it had been her-knowing she's one of the Seven Sovereigns which battled with the Primordial One and its Four Shades-we could've been buried deeper than in the Chasm's deepest depths.
With two exceptions, all the weekly bosses have themes that convey violence and will go, and this is because the reason the Traveler is forced to face them is to end the threat they pose. The exceptions are Dvalin and Boreas, one is sought to be saved but the situation is desperate, and the other simply challenges you to a duel.
In my opinion, Apep's case is similar to Dvalin's.
@@RGA301092 yup
"that gives me the energy that this is OUR theme against Apep" actually its a rescue mission so its OUR theme ALONGSIDE Apep
As a bassoonist, it is really a treat and ear opener to hear a bassoon as the main soloist against the boss music, adds more to rich and utter melodic contrast to the environment of this piece. Being a bassoonist, you’ll only have some rare chances in spot light in modern day pieces, so, it is ever lovely to hear pieces like this; to provide notion to a not-so-rare though rich wood sound in an orchestra environment~
In the last phase there was a techno sound beep beep.... boop boop.. sounds like synthesiser. That was a really nice touch. It adds some future-ish feelings into this hectic song. I don't know how to explain it lmao but I was so hooked to it
This is the sound of life, the bubbles in the incubator
It's veeeery Xenoblade Chronicles X, if you loved that part (like me) and haven't checked that OST out yet, do yourself a favor and do so. Marco has a full vod of it on here too with his reactions.
mayb DNA？
After thinking it through the past couple days, I believe it's meant to be representative of Nahida being there to help. Nahida has tons of technological connections, and she is involved in this boss just as much as we are.
And its sound like heartbeat, because we fighting inside of Apep's Heart
I feel Apep’s theme mirror’s Azhdaha’s in a few ways. The heroicism in the second phase of Azhdaha’s theme mirrors that of Apep’s theme and I LOVE IT. Also the fact that with both Azhdaha and Apep you’re not fighting to kill or hurt them, you’re fighting to SAVE them. You’re trying to stop Apep from dying and with Azhdaha, you’re just trying to fulfill his contract. I love that about them and I feel Rage Beneath The Mountains is another song that is “our” theme.
Huh, I just realized all three dragons we fought, are all about saving them.
[spoilers]
Dvalin from the abyssal seal on his blood clot
Azhdaha from his erosion and to finish his contract
Apep from the corruption of the Cataclysm
sadly we can't really save orobaxi since he be dead, but we did put the thunderous island to 'rest'
@@Yasha_U Coz Orobaxi isn't actually one of the Seven Sovereigns, they were born around the time of the Archon War, which at that time Enkanomiya was under the Sunchildren regime. Fleeing the war, Orobashi somehow ended up in the underground dimension that Enka is situated and helped with the rebellion that took place.
How about dvalin? We were also trying to save him
@@Yasha_U genshin goal
Save the dragons, and kill the gods.
Edit: at least, wicked gods
I hear Xiao's theme
I feel like this ost rather than make us feels scared or intimidated it gives us courage instead.
It kinda gives me the vibe of she's sorta cheering us on, just with the "tough love" style
Can’t wait to see this performed live! Hope they do, in the next Genshin concert 🙏
Let's hope so, 2nd concerts is pretty disappointing tbh
ABSOLUTELY YES!!! I HOPE TOO!!!
I'm actually gonna tear up if they performed this theme in the concert.
@@piyushverma7534 i actually tear up with this, now what 😭
the first thing i did last night when 3.6 went live was play Nahida’s 2nd story quest and i was SO impressed with Apep’s theme! 🤩it’s always super fun to see how hoyo-mix incorporates photon of fluctuation into so many of genshin’s tracks and it really makes you think about the significance of this leitmotif and why we hear it so much 🤔
It’s Yu Peng Chen, not Hoyomix. Hoyomix is just the TH-cam channel they post the music to.
@@JosepiThe13th what are you talking about bro? YuPengCheng works in Hoyomix.. The whole team of Hoyomix make the music not just Yu peng chen.
@@JosepiThe13th Yu Peng Chen does compose most of genshin’s music but its a team effort not a one man project
@@JosepiThe13th yu peng Chen is only one of the many people who create the music.
I love this style of your videos where you're not afraid to pause often, go back to certain parts of the music, share your insights in depth. That's what we're here for. This theme is very different from usual boss music and i agree, it represents not only the opponent but also us.
Yeah I'm shifting style a bit because i feel a bit too on the tracks. The videos are longer but more insightful ideally
Congrats to Hoyo composers and Marco's musical talent. Marco was absolutely right about 11:30. It is "our theme" because there is a revelation and plottwist.
This feels like in many ways the culmination of all Sumeru music in one celebratory piece which represents Apep being THE Dragon of Sumeru. Also its always nice to see these pieces recall back to the OG battle theme with the Photon of Fluctuation which is there a few other pieces too.
Due to the story reasons you're definitely right in this feeling more of 'our' theme than the Boss's, hoping you find out soon enough :)
I thought that after the weekly boss scaramouche, the guys from hoyo mix had reached their ceiling, but the new boss gave me a punch in the gut with the words :" You haven't seen everything yet."😮
it’s interesting to me that this is the first weekly boss theme to feature the photon of fluctuation leitmotif. idk what the significance is, if anything, but it is intriguing
perhaps this is something to do with that idea of this being our theme against apep. maybe, on some level, the photon leitmotif is, in fact, the traveler’s leitmotif (or at least one of them)
hello from the past, non patrons who are just now seeing this video
henlo
do I look like i care
@@juan6022 yes
@@Fluxuate56the absolute flex
What the F,you from 19 hours ago but the Vidio is 16 hours ago
There's a different ferocity in this music, like quiet but overwhelming confidence. It's the sound of knowing your victory is assured as long as you don't lose focus
Despite not having our full powers yet, we defeated a sea monster and his wife, 2 dragons, 3 harbingers, the immune system of a primordial dragon, the Abyss Twin's liutenant, an Archon, the actual embodiment of death and God knows what else.
We'll be damned if we fail Nahida and make her repeat Rukkhadevata's sacrifice.
@@lonewolfhero3526 embodiment of death?
The music captures the movements of the boss so well, it swirls in spirals, flowing, twirling and twisting. Just like the music, no separate parts but continuously complex movement with more and more details entwined into it.
always a joy seeing marco jamming to genshin music
I can't believe I was crying while listening and fighting. The nostalgia of the first battle theme, the epic swell and key change, the gameplay where we don't just fight the boss but also protect her. It just made me cry while eye framing the best of my characters Burst
Bassoons and oboes are some of those under appreciated instruments that when they shine they really shine and you wish you could hear more of. I also really like the triumphant brass in this song too, its so determined and upbeat, its a good change of pace from the other boss songs that are more moody and sinister sounding.
It has more emotions in this theme than the ones before, loved it.
i love how due to the lore, theres definitely tension and stakes in the instrumentation but compared to other boss themes, this one is set from the rest. it feels less like you're fighting to end someone but it feels more like you're fighting to save them which makes sense story wise. its got such triumphant harmonic choices, it gives off anime protagonist power of friendship super move vibes. and marco you definitely aced the part where you said it feels more like our theme, the traveller's theme and the fight of the boss against our inevitable might much more than it is a theme for the boss against us. beautifully said. and for those who already fought this boss, im sure you guys are also catching the fact that the woodwinds and the tabla are also kinda representing the way the boss moves. all flowy and elegant, dancing around the arena as it fucks you up with the pillars and minions. another gorgeous analysis marco, you never miss
Bro this song is getting downloaded and added to my collection. It is stellar.
Asia has been killing it with music lately, has anyone else noticed? Most of the best music I've heard in the past 10 years is by an Asian artist or draws inspiration from Asian art it feels like.
agreed, from videogames,anime,indie,orchestral, and many more imo
This one sheds more light on the south Asian side with the Hindu instrumentals. Sumeru as a whole has done a great job in bringing my country's music out into the world. Everybody knew middle eastern ost would be banger but I think Hindu music in general is very slept on globally and more people need to give it a go
If you want the final official version for download, I recommend waiting for the album, which should be coming out this patch cycle! (est. 1 month). It'll be included alongside a ton of the desert tracks as well. That is, if you can hold the wait.
The thing is a lot of these are simply game rips when the album including the tracks aren't out yet. It's the reason why they have no proper theme name: the album gives them it. Though there are certain exceptions, like if a yet-to-release track gets featured in a concert or in-game event.
Edit: it has since passed 1 month, the album is out. Listen to it NOW.
I haven't heard any western music in a while.
I only listen Korean, Japanese, and Indonesian (my country) music these days...
What I understand from this is : The phase 1 theme depict Apep like a terrifying enemy, as we can see with the flute reaching super high notes, almost unbeatable. And phase 2 is epic, it's glorious. I really have the impression of Apep and the Traveler going all-out in a very epic fight. This theme is definitely my favorite from the game. Oh and Marco, you probably noticed that phase 2 got repeated in this theme. The first you hear is the finalized, and the last you hear is the midi version, hence the different sounds
Spoliers :
Yes I know it's phase 3 and not phase 2. I also know that we don't fight Apep directly, but I want to avoid spoilers
not apep , guardian of apep's oasis. Apep doesnt look like we will fight it at any time because it could really easily destroy us lol
@@kabutozeroES Did you read my entire comment ?
The ending of this song has the same vibe for me as the primal dialga theme, just freaking awesome, the music in genshin never disappoints, and the fight was awesome and the story too :D
The fact that you can grasp the story fairly accurately from just music and one name is amazing!
5:30 it pains me to know that his iteration is not in the finalized boss fight, this track is from the beta version of the boss, it sounds so fucking badass and inline with sumeru city’s technological feat with the robotic synth in the background along with the heavy muddy bass at the beginning, this version symbolizes the temporary Alliance between the desert dragon and the rainforest archon for me
I can understand why they remove that part. That part feels too ominous for the theme that's going on during the fight
Ikr its sad cause i hecking love this part....
This is intense fighting vibes just goes hard
The real demonstration of power here is HoyoMix team dropping the bangers that are weekly boss themes
Thanks dude! As a FFXIV player you always show me great gaming scores that I sadly would never have heard otherwise and that there are other great composers next to Masayoshi Soken!
Its honestly crazy how well the song tells the story of what is happening... At first you're fighting back to protect yourself, then you find a chance to save the dragon, to heal them. After phase 2, you succeed, the music almost sounds like victory and adventure in phase 3, then goes more menacing again as even if you saved Apep, they wont let you go without testing you.
This theme feels familiar, and balances that feeling of familiarity with something otherworldly. A story is also being told while we are fighting it - and that shows in the mood swings of the song.
The "Photon of Fluctuation" is not only associated with the Traveller, but also Teyvat in general. Which is why I think a boss of this calibre and lore has that part. It's something related to the depths and origins of the world itself.
Loved your analysis to bits! There will probably be an official version coming some time in the future - there's a part missing I think.
I just wanna say your videos on the genshin ost is what got me really into music. I love the way you interpret the songs and it gets me even more hyped afterwards when I hear them again while im playing. I love your vids :))))
Wow, thank you!
That was an excellent analysis. Especially about the part where you said it feels more like the traveler's theme against Apep. I also felt the same
The celebratory final segment of this piece almost brings me to tears. It's so emotionally powerful and you truly feel like you've conquered the unconquerable. The flute howling into the wind at 12:10 and onward gives me chills every time, almost sounding like the creature is thanking you for its freedom.
Thanks so much for putting my feelings into words Marco
Bro I love this theme so much! Definitely didn't expect it to me so chill but just the amount of emotions it brings out is incredible, I'll admit this is the first time I've ever actually shed a few tears while fighting a boss ever, I won't spoil it but damn is it just heart wrenching the first time you do it, I literally just started running around while trying to handle my emotions and enjoy the song at the same time. This is probably in my top 3 genshin boss fights overall, the fight is fun and doesn't feel repetitive/scripted, the lore is fascinating the design is amazing and the music is a jam.
Also am i the only one that hears a bit of fire emblem's battle theme in this? I don't know the specific song, probably in three houses game but it immediately reminded me of it.
The story quest and the visuals, everything is just so good, and the music is the cherry on top. It's amazing the 3rd phase has different versions
"t's exalted, it's celebratory, it's melodic"
I haven't done the quest or gotten to this boss yet but I did a little wandering around the new area last night and I came across a location that really I thought would have...kind of ominous music? But it doesn't. The music actually makes it feel like a nice, reflective, place to spend some time. It was this weird juxtaposition that leads me to wondering why they did it that way.
Also: your reaction when the music suddenly gets intense was really similar to mine, hahah.
Man I love the way you dissect every piece. All your explanations make me understand why I love every Genshin song
:)
the boss fight was over so quick i didnt have the time to sit down and listen to it, im glad i can now
also not spoilers but this quest was one of the few if not the only time(s) genshin was able to make me tear up
For me, I think there's a certain majesty when the Bazzoon comes in. Like "You and I, Traveller, are going to have a wonderful time dancing (fighting) in this encounter of ours" Then when the second phase comes in, that majesty turns into an awe-filled "Well, let's have this dance a memory for us to remember Traveller!" as the boss pummels you with more and more attacks like how you tend to get more erratic in dancing because what you, the traveller, and the boss is feeling in that moment.
Phase 1 she is hurt, she is in pain and angry.
Phase 2 we are healing her
Phase 3 she is no longer in pain and now open to reason
Its definitely one of my favorite boss themes,funnily enough it was first leaked in 2.6,when the chasm was added,but it went completely unused until now
Also,the very loud section is abit weird,its present inside the files,but it simply doesn't play in-game,it seems to be an adaptative theme that switches from a grounded version to an intense one
So glad I avoided the leaks, experiencing this in game was awesome
@@racool911 well,it was supposed to be chasm battle music but it sound way too good,also it was changed,the instrument used is different
I'm so glad mihoyo brought attention to traditional Indian music through sumeru. We all knew middle eastern and Egyptian music were gonna be bangers but alot of times people forget that india's a part of Asia too and forget to represent their cultural influences into their animes and games, therefore stopping people from getting a taste of our nation's music. Not always do I give mihoyo a W but they've earned one for bringing out our culture and its music globally for people to see. Maybe now we'll start seeing more anime and games being inspired from our nation now too instead of just being overridden with high medieval, Japanese and Chinese fantasy. Good job yu peng Chen
Egypt is middle east lol
My suspicion turns out to be true. I expected a desert boss to sound more Egytian, but it doesn’t, then I remember that Sumeru is still partially based on India. Tbh I think a majority of inspiration for Sumeru as a whole is still based on the Middle East, and I really want more India for it
Lol Indians are too sensitive to appreciate something good
Yeah, most western don't even know other continent musical instrument. They only like rap ,rock music and think those are the best
Agreed but remember yu pen Chen isn’t the only person who works on the music. He does most of the composing
Idk if it’s just me or wind instruments reminds me of serpentine creatures. Similar to Apep, the wind instrument also fits the Baizhu part in the 3.6 trailer because he’s associated with snakes. I think the reason might be because of the common depiction of Egyptian snake tamers playing the flute to “control” the snake
The wind instrument is bansuri in this Boss battle along with Ney
And in baizu demo it's probably Xiao or Dizi
The wind instrument used here is called Bansuri which is from Ancient India...It is quite different from the ones we see in Europe or China
I love how you are living the music my friend. I really hope you get more roles in Genshin Impact ;)
5:38 onward was my favorite part of this theme. I love it sm, i got a tadbit emotional for some reason.
The music being so different from Genshins typical boss soundtracks, is I think a nod to the stakes of this battle being different as well.
Spoilers:
Since in this case, we're protecting Apep, not fighting them. The boss itself isn't Apep at all, rather it's the guardian of Apep's oasis. Apep is HUGE, there's no way we're ever fighting that thing.
Yeah no joke, i really hope we would see a full rendered model for primordial dragons.
"her"
Apep is a female btw
@@joshbrosh6626 Really? I play in spanish and here Apep refers to himself as a male. Is it a translation error?
@@luminessupremacy probably
But like how dvalin is a male same with azdaha
Apep has to be a female since it
Spoilers
Creates life in its body and it has an female voice in english
Idk if japanese korean and cn also have female sounding voices
@@joshbrosh6626 I'll edit it
Overall I was really surprised at how much more relaxed this one was, just the melody and the movement-Like you said it was a lot like a dance and the fight felt like that too! It was nice to hear a different track and I’m excited to hear more of what this new region has to offer!
I just played through that boss fight after completing the latest story quest, and I actually didn't rush to finish the battle and just ran around while dodging (and learning) its attack patterns and also to appreciate the creature design and background music.
Haha. Love the fact that you remembered "Photon of Fluctuation". Cool vid
Duuude! I was looking forward to seeing your analysis of this battle song
I gotchu
for me, the part your talking about in 9:33 is like the tension is suspended and pulsating in this state
and in the actual boss, this makes sense because this is like the intermission phase where the boss switches up to a tower defense type mode!
i realized it really adds to the listening experience when you know what the music is for, but good musicians can tell AND read a story within just the music. for intuition, u got the gist of the fight pretty damn well!!!
I really like the... sorry for my bad musical terms... the beep boops starting around 5:57. They remind me a lot of Nahida, and with her connection of knowledge to computer-inspired animations (keyboard, mouse cursor), I wonder if the boss is related to that in some way!
Some of the boss' attacks have the appearance of DNA so there's some sciency connections there.
the beep boops are missing in game : (
@@c_rushed2328 Nyoooo! :c
@@tiekogalaxylatte8839 actually he seems to be opposite to nahida's animations wich reference programing and also tied to irminsul s thematic, wich is also considered a computer. At the other end, apep has been there before celestia invaded, and as such he is more tied into the organic aspect, the dna helixes
@@c_rushed2328the second phase soundtrack isn’t in the game because it is the leaked version from 2.6
With this music as a background, I feel very inspired and wholesome dueling with Apep. It doesn’t feel like a violent fight, instead a mutual and respectful recognition of each other’s power and strength!
I really like this one. I think those "synthesized" sounds are very computer-y kinds of tones meant to invoke the idea of information or data. Sumeru is the nation of "wisdom"--of knowledge, information, and memory. But it reflects those concepts both in human ways (academic learning, almost sci-fi information systems, etc.) and in nature (the patterns in nature, the memories of the forest, etc.) Without getting into story spoilers this boss has themes of "evolution" and "adaptation", and you can see from the trailer it has various helix motifs in it's attacks and the corkscrew-seed elements in the boss design--very literally the information embedded in nature. To me this song is very much about the clash and dance between the knowledge of man and the knowledge of the natural world and whether they can find common ground...
That part (after the build up and Return to calm … before the piano) teared me up 😢 not sure yet why for I haven’t played the quest but …. There is something tragic and the mob seems to be linked to nature…. So far it gives me corrupted nature entity vibes and I Love it !
Suffice it to say that Ive been obsessed with this theme.
Another small note is that the end part is a transition phase between phase 1 and 2 and not to mark end.
I just finished the story quest where you fight Apep and I’m definitely glad that I experienced it in game before watching this video. Now watching your reaction to it, I am hearing these themes for the first time without gameplay sounds over it
The music is the first thing I start to analyse right after finishing the quest. While I hate the fact it's shorter than any other boss theme, I must say it's just as good and reached my expectations for 2nd Sumeru boss theme which use a lot of Arabic ish soundtrack.
And notice how the climax sound a lot like Demon Slayer soundtrack?
I think this has become my favourite Genshin theme. It has a memorable melody and it steady builds into the booming heroic music in the 3rd phase, much like a seed growing into a tree. And to me this song has a lot of heart, which is fitting considering what the story behind this boss battle is. It's like the more you dance in battle, the greater your heart and emotions become, until every step taken in battle and every swing of the sword becomes full of what you are as a warrior and a hero.
This song is constantly growing... a proper dendro song.
I really loved how you are doing/showing information taken into the game music from mythology like Apopis and the fatui with commedia dell'arte, would love more on that.
I'll do my best
I genuinely gets goosebump when I fought this boss the first time, especially the 3rd phase
That synthesized quality in the end is chef's kiss on top I tell you. It goes so well in line with the Sumeru theme and it's unexpected. And I'm not a huge fan of synth music, but in this case it's so well placed it's perfect.
That drop made me goosebump everytime.
To not spoil it, this reminded me of Undertale's "Hopes and Dreams" when I was doing this fight in the quest. The context is VERY similar, it's about going home, hope, love, mercy and sacrifice, and I was crying in the end.
I hate that hoyo really did that to us, I genuinely cried
this song goes hard it really paints a picture of a hero's battle almost like a test or a trial for the hero, I haven't gotten to the quest yet but I'm excited to see how it plays out. Also I don't know why but this gives me similar vibes to a zelda wind waker boss Molgera
I’m coming to this video hella late. I can’t express myself as well as you, but this is my favorite theme because it feels the most Adventurous. In the best way, this song says “you’re on a big adventure” and I think that’s beautiful
I have to be truly honest, the first few seconds brought back to my mind the theme of Knight Rider.
Love the enthusiasm you have in these videos. Keep up the great work :)
That synthesizer its absolutely a neat conection with the Marana Avatar.
fun fact: this whole theme was originally a battle theme from the chasm that was scrapped. you can still find the old beta version on youtube. for apep, they remixed it with a more sumeru flavour.
it does make it a little bit sad that this theme wasn't actually made for apep, but it's also a good thing because it means this great theme they composed but never got to use hasn't gone to waste.
Well, we don't know if it was actually scrapped in the first place. The original beta version had Sumeru elements as well (before Sumeru was even released lol), which was why people were speculating that it was a Sumeru soundtrack, and not for the Chasm. So there's a chance that this theme was meant for an earlier concept of Apep, and we now get to hear it in its full glory ;D
Maybe its not For the Chasm but they maked Demo version to use in the future
But you might confused because the leaker
@@NijiKonohana it didn't have any sumeru elements. it was a very standard western orchestra sound with more piano than usual, which is the chasm's usual style: mostly western orchestra with extra piano. sumeru sounds completely different from that, it has more of a south asian and middle eastern sound. the unused track has nothing in common with sumeru music at all.
the music also just has the same vibe as other chasm music.
there's also the fact that the unused track is 4 minutes long: much longer than boss themes in genshin. it's also both phases combined into one track, which kindoff shows tbh with how short apep's second phase theme is. it's probably the shortest battle theme in the game, being 1 minute. boss themes are usually 2 to 3 minutes.
@@Pascll Oh when I said 'Sumeru elements', I wasn't talking about the instruments. The original beta version was using the usual Western orchestra, but the climax part of the song (around the 3:00 point onwards) had chord progression and tempo that is more closely associated with Arabic-style music. That was why there were already theories that it might eventually be a Sumeru theme back when the song was first leaked in 2.6.
But again though, these are all just theories. We won't know unless someone from Hoyo-Mix comes out and confirms it lol.
I won't comment on the length of the piece... There's no hard rule for it in Genshin. There are some environmental pieces that range from 5 mins to under 2 minutes too, so it honestly just comes down to how long Hoyo-Mix wants the song to last.
@@NijiKonohana environmental music has a much bigger length range, they can be long or short. but battle and boss music does have much more of a limited range to how long or short it can be. battle themes are all around 3 and a half to 5 minutes, boss themes are all around 2 to 3 minutes.
environmental music has a different purpose from boss or battle music, so it has a different length range to suit that purpose. battle themes have a more specific range to their length because if they're too short, they could end up looping too many times, which isn't an issue that environmental music has, so it can be as short as it wants, as environmental music doesn't loop.
the unused theme is much longer than any boss theme but it the right length for a battle theme, while apep phase 3 is much shorter than any boss or battle theme, so it'll loop pretty quickly if you don't finish off the boss quick.
it's also important to note that the unused theme isn't cut up in multiple phases, it's one continuous theme. this is why I think it's unlikely that this was always meant to be two phases.
What I love about this track is that it presents a majestic presence whilst maintaining a sense of full control and strength of will, which I suppose is quite accurate to all of the relevant characters involved in this quest.
5:49 Marco had to check if it was still Genshin lol
i really love the new area ost! i dont know how to explain it but its sounds so calming, the same feeling i feel when exploring dragonspine and tsurumi island, sometimes sounds eerie but not as much as the one in enkanomiya and the chasm
and this new boss music! i havent fight the boss yet but this music sound different than the other weekly boss music, it doesnt make me nerveous like the others ww but still sound epic like a battle theme, also it sounds more heroism for me rather than villain theme ww anyway nice analysis marco!
I agree that this feels more like our theme while fighting against Apep. This theme feels like an epic of a hero's journey. Heroic af
Letss goo
I was absolutely blown away by the elegant power I felt through the music during this boss battle
I know this video is a little old, but I’ve been listening to this song again, and to me, the sound of the bassoon is the sound of the trees… I feel like, if you were to listen into a tree hollow, it’s the little that you’d hear.
genshin does not miss with the music, the moment i heard it i knew itd be one of my faves
sounds like an epic journey through a horde of enemies toward their stronghold in a last battle kind of situation.
As usual, you leave me the knowledge to listen the theme with a musical insight that I had not glimpsed before...
I love hearing this song, and personally I agree with the way you've described this song. I also like to think it's a sendoff, now that this is the last boss of Sumeru, and we are now heading to Fontaine. We're ending it off with a dance, very fitting,
Let's gooo new weekly boss theme :D
I haven't watch the video yet but there is also a beta version of this song that leaked about 10/11 months ago.
It's still up and you can listen to that.
It was originally going to be a chasm theme, so it sounds quite different.
As always, great analysis video Marco! I myself just finished the quest and was bobbing my head most of the fight, and to be honest... I have honestly been completely blown away with the amount, as well the sheer quality that the people who made most music for the Sumeru region have put in, i liked music in Mondstat, in Liyue(i hope that's how you spell it) as well as in Inazuma, but... Like... Sumeru music just feels much, and MUCH more grandiose at times, this, honestly just makes me more excited for future updates, as well as whenever Fontaine comes out, because as far as most gensin players heard from that one teaser video teasing all ACT names and main themes of regions, the music from Fontaine will definitely, and hopefully will surpass other regions. And i know that's already setting the expectations sky high but... I for some reason believe that they can be shattered and WILL be shattered with each/next new region added to the game, like how my personal hope is to hear so flamenco in Natalan, and Snezhnaya? Man... I honestly have almost no idea... As a person who've studied history and culture of ancient Rus, as well as history of Russia under the rule of "Pietr the 1st", i am very curious, anyway sorry for my ramblings, thanks for an amazing video once again!
I love that synthesizer! 💃🏾
The way I interpret when the western music kicks in - in this case the piano - is when the traveler's involved. The following hybrid signifies the involvement of the traveler into the matter of the locals.
Just thinking how much fun mihoyo do when they record these musics
This ost was leaked 1 year ago during Chasm 😭
Help I can’t stop listening to this theme 😢
Hey Marco thank u for that Reaction. I just got through all of the new region added in this patch. The music there is also really amazing. Had a weird Star Wars feeling throughout the whole thing. Have fun exploring! :)
my favourite boss theme so far, yu-peng chen has bested himself yet again. I'm absolutely in love with the combination of indian and arabic instrumentation with very classic european instruments, my ears have been blessed yet again 🛐
there wasnt a single use of Arabic instruments in this song
...Only Indian instruments like sitar bansuri and tabla were used...The main instruments which enhanced this song was Bansuri and Sitar...
@@Noahhendelson ah, thank a lot for the info!
@@Noahhendelsonu forgot tanpura man u can hear it buzzing around in background