@@Fancylad69 This is unfinished but I think the final result was intended to be more than a demo. They were building up the song off of Prince's demo. The lead vocal here is so stiff, and I doubt it would've changed much on the final version.
One of my favorite Prince stories. Prince's talent enabled him to make it even better...alone. I know his genius mind was blown when he heard how they got this from an acoustic version.
Prince knew what he was doing when he took this song back. The vocals on this version are lackluster and quite boring. The lead vocalist sounds like a contestant in a high school talent show. Prince's falsetto was exactly what the doctor ordered!
@balisaani I thought it was Prince and Wendy played it for the music video. Wikipedia states Prince played guitar. I have to check Duane Tudahl's book on Parade sessions. The Prince Vault states Prince as the guitarist.
@balisaani I just checked The Parade Recording Sessions book. Susan Rogers, the recording engineer for the session, said Prince played guitar on Kiss. Wendy and Lisa were present for additional vocals on the extended 12" remix only along with Jill Jones.
It wasn’t stolen - so no virtue is lost. It wasn’t an exchange so the ownership doesn’t change. The only way a person can take something back is if it starts with them. I mean I get that you feel something. I think the situation is a matter of perspective. For me it’s about the art/song and the best thing for the song in this case was Prince.
There was a little club on Nicolette Ave, just south of downtown Minneapolis. It was rumored to be owned by Prince. He dropped in there a few times. I wish I could remember the name of the place. Me and my friends would see Maserati every time they played there.
When your an unknown genius no one wants to be related to you, BUT once you sell millions everybody wants your credit. This is a Prince song and it always will be.
which owes its sound to David Rivkin and/or Mark Brown. If you've heard his One verse and chorus 'demo' you know the sound of the Mazarati’s take is vastly different...much more different than the Mazarati’s and Prince's final version. Also, compare Mazarati’s "100 MPH" to Prince's they are very similar. The only real question is who wrote the rest of the lyrics? One telling I read Prince wrote them out a little while later...one telling by David suggested they wrote at least SOME of the additional lyrics.
@@JohnAnderson42 Prince is responsible for the Minneapolis sound, not David Rivkin and/or Mark Brown, so please don't come here to tell me that they din't copycat Prince-sound in Prince's own demo. There is no real question, no one is asking anything, the song is a classic and a big hit thanks to Prince.
@@horrorpowerfilms9481"kiss" is not an example of the "Minneapolis Sound." The Truth is more important than your feelings. The truth is David crafted the sound of the song that was vastly different that the demo Prince did.
@@JohnAnderson42 My feelings??? are your turning into an MJ fanatic ready to go personal? Damn! OK, I'll stay on topic, in my opinion Kiss is the perfect example of the Minneapolis sound, an extension of the Techno-Funk that Prince created between 1979-1989 at the Dirty Mind era, were he was very much influenced by Kraftwerk, Gary Numan, post-punk and New Wave.
@@horrorpowerfilms9481 I apologize... I just believe David and Mark that they did produce Mazarati's version and prince's version kept much of it for his version.
*Sunset Sound Recorders* *THANK YOU 4 ANOTHER* >>>>>>>It was a normal Recording day for them.The room wasn't filled with People Like it would Be now and thats the point blank version*The gem is after prince & sunset dile it in* *IM FEELN THE VIBES coming out of thies*They were playing with music & where it was going to go*Amazing Times* *CATER*
Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooow! One of my favorite Prince songs in original demo. Oh woooooow! Fascinating! So awesome to explore in original form before it became a big hit song ever.
@@jeshkam and? it's his song and it doesn't sound the same like the hit, yes is similar, because it was Kiss written by Prince and played almost the same as the Prince's demo, stop taking this out of proportion.
What so many people commenting here don’t seem to realize is that when Prince gave Mazerati this song it sounded nothing like what you hear on this demo. Mazerati & David Z significantly altered the song to what you hear in this demo. When Prince listened to their demo he loved what they did with it and took the song back and added his guitar & vocals etc. Prince’s released version of “Kiss” is a take off of what Mazerati and David Z did to the song. People here seem to think what they’re hearing here is what Prince gave them - it isn’t.
@@horrorpowerfilms9481 😂 Who’s saying Prince “owed his career to Mazerati”??? No one. I’m saying that Mazerati & David Z changed “Kiss” significantly and Prince then recorded “Kiss” based directly on Mazerati’s & David Z’s version on the song - NOT Prince’s demo or vision of the song.
That date seems to be wrong. Mis-labeled session sheet? Maserati’s demo couldn’t have been recorded Feb of ‘86, as Prince released his single on Feb 5th of that year. He allegedly recorded his version in April the previous year.
Here's a little reminder. Mazarati turned this demo overnight into the version that gave Prince the hit we know today. Without their input, this could have turned into something completely else. th-cam.com/video/oSm9voCZ_L4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=9JyL-9intj3pN4H2
So yeah, this song... he did them dirty. Even when he mentioned it to Larry King, he said something like it was a mystery how these happen... but he knew. David and maybe Mark should have gotten co-writing and co--produced credits. The vast majority of its over all sound was David and/or Mark's work....
LOL! co-writing and co--produced credits?!!! so just because somebody help on a song does not mean they own it, it was a Prince song. What's next? Prince should get a check every time David or Mark mention him?
@@horrorpowerfilms9481 for Co-producing YES! its sound was produced by David and/or Mark.... there are conflicting stories as to how much of the lyrics Prince wrote vs David and/or Mark.
Interesting, thanks. I always expected it to sound much more like the extended part of the 12" release but I guess that's kinda a third interpretation. Undoubtedly the P release version is the best one. Made US number One, right? One of the last classic Prince tracks imo [Sign o Times and maybe Alphabet St being final ones].
hmm,I wonder...if this version had actually been released first( instead of the obvious best version)as a B-side to 100 mi hr....? nahhh! It still wouldn't be hittin! But they are better than the group "Good Question" lol remember that? Lol that reference has absolutely nothing to do with the subject matter the duo just literally popped up in my memory! 😆 lol
I reckon He absolutely did the right thing in taking this back: This version is nice and all that but it's a little "normal"/dull. 🙂
It's a demo.
@@Fancylad69 -I know.
@@NOWtheband Then you would know that a demo is going to sound sparse and underdeveloped.
@@Fancylad69 - I do.
@@Fancylad69 This is unfinished but I think the final result was intended to be more than a demo. They were building up the song off of Prince's demo. The lead vocal here is so stiff, and I doubt it would've changed much on the final version.
One of my favorite Prince stories. Prince's talent enabled him to make it even better...alone. I know his genius mind was blown when he heard how they got this from an acoustic version.
its 2 good 4 u guys
im taking it back
💜🐾
🤘🏽🐾
Prince taking over the track and adding 'that magic' made it a classic.
Yeah prince did the right thing taking the song back and made it a number one hit
Prince knew what he was doing when he took this song back. The vocals on this version are lackluster and quite boring. The lead vocalist sounds like a contestant in a high school talent show. Prince's falsetto was exactly what the doctor ordered!
W0W...😂With the final cut, Prince actually out did BOTH Maserati AND himself
Prince's final version was the #1 hit. When he put his vocals snd rhythm guitar on it made it magic.
That was Wendy's rhythm guitar on the track - not Prince.
@balisaani I thought it was Prince and Wendy played it for the music video. Wikipedia states Prince played guitar. I have to check Duane Tudahl's book on Parade sessions. The Prince Vault states Prince as the guitarist.
@balisaani I just checked The Parade Recording Sessions book. Susan Rogers, the recording engineer for the session, said Prince played guitar on Kiss. Wendy and Lisa were present for additional vocals on the extended 12" remix only along with Jill Jones.
I know the back story on this since I've been watching all the Prince interviews. This is fantastic!!! Thank you for this. Sunset ROCKS!! ✌
I don't blame Prince for taking it back. Also, they spelled their name Mazarati.
They couldn't spell it like the car for legal reasons though.
Glad he took it back. May have been a hit but nothing compares to his version. See what I did there lol
Wow, that was really interesting. thank you for posting this bit of history!
A man of virtue wouldn't have taken it back, speaks volumes about Prince.
It wasn’t stolen - so no virtue is lost. It wasn’t an exchange so the ownership doesn’t change. The only way a person can take something back is if it starts with them. I mean I get that you feel something. I think the situation is a matter of perspective. For me it’s about the art/song and the best thing for the song in this case was Prince.
@russellmoore7414 so you're basically replying to me with an opinion, great.
yeah this song is too good for them, prince he did the right thing takin it back from them and putting POW into it
I used to go see this band a lot back in the day.
Do tell…. Where at?
There was a little club on Nicolette Ave, just south of downtown Minneapolis. It was rumored to be owned by Prince. He dropped in there a few times. I wish I could remember the name of the place. Me and my friends would see Maserati every time they played there.
They suck
@@richardnagamitsu1582 Was it Bunkers? He also owned Glam Slam. I'm from Mpls, Grew up there.
@blueskymusic1592 - No it wasn’t Bunkers. It was just on the border of downtown and south Minneapolis.
When your an unknown genius no one wants to be related to you, BUT once you sell millions everybody wants your credit. This is a Prince song and it always will be.
which owes its sound to David Rivkin and/or Mark Brown. If you've heard his One verse and chorus 'demo' you know the sound of the Mazarati’s take is vastly different...much more different than the Mazarati’s and Prince's final version. Also, compare Mazarati’s "100 MPH" to Prince's they are very similar.
The only real question is who wrote the rest of the lyrics? One telling I read Prince wrote them out a little while later...one telling by David suggested they wrote at least SOME of the additional lyrics.
@@JohnAnderson42 Prince is responsible for the Minneapolis sound, not David Rivkin and/or Mark Brown, so please don't come here to tell me that they din't copycat Prince-sound in Prince's own demo. There is no real question, no one is asking anything, the song is a classic and a big hit thanks to Prince.
@@horrorpowerfilms9481"kiss" is not an example of the "Minneapolis Sound." The Truth is more important than your feelings. The truth is David crafted the sound of the song that was vastly different that the demo Prince did.
@@JohnAnderson42 My feelings??? are your turning into an MJ fanatic ready to go personal? Damn! OK, I'll stay on topic, in my opinion Kiss is the perfect example of the Minneapolis sound, an extension of the Techno-Funk that Prince created between 1979-1989 at the Dirty Mind era, were he was very much influenced by Kraftwerk, Gary Numan, post-punk and New Wave.
@@horrorpowerfilms9481 I apologize... I just believe David and Mark that they did produce Mazarati's version and prince's version kept much of it for his version.
*Sunset Sound Recorders* *THANK YOU 4 ANOTHER* >>>>>>>It was a normal Recording day for them.The room wasn't filled with People Like it would Be now and thats the point blank version*The gem is after prince & sunset dile it in* *IM FEELN THE VIBES coming out of thies*They were playing with music & where it was going to go*Amazing Times* *CATER*
*WAITING 4 THE MOVIE*.
Sunset Sound. *MUSIC GROWING BACK IN THE DAY* *CATER*
*Remember *DYNASTY* CATER*
Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooow!
One of my favorite Prince songs in original demo.
Oh woooooow!
Fascinating!
So awesome to explore in original form before it became a big hit song ever.
I believe that was posted here... not really a demo... but it is cool
Prince could be ruthless AF lol. 💜
More than likely this version wouldn't have been a hit
ruthless? it was his song.
@@horrorpowerfilms9481 They made a full arrangement.
@@jeshkam and? it's his song and it doesn't sound the same like the hit, yes is similar, because it was Kiss written by Prince and played almost the same as the Prince's demo, stop taking this out of proportion.
@@horrorpowerfilms9481 Kiss demo is almost a whole of a different song!
What so many people commenting here don’t seem to realize is that when Prince gave Mazerati this song it sounded nothing like what you hear on this demo. Mazerati & David Z significantly altered the song to what you hear in this demo. When Prince listened to their demo he loved what they did with it and took the song back and added his guitar & vocals etc. Prince’s released version of “Kiss” is a take off of what Mazerati and David Z did to the song. People here seem to think what they’re hearing here is what Prince gave them - it isn’t.
yeah he did them cold... (this is worst than swiping "do me baby" from Andre or the drums for "when doves cry" from Dez...
Well, even tough that's truth, I mean is not like Prince own his career to Mazarati, it's the opposite.
@@JohnAnderson42 Andre and Dez, better know as two artists known because of Prince, so I say he did them hot!
@@horrorpowerfilms9481 i said that him taking the fragments of "Do me Baby" from Andre and the drum pattern from Dez was not as bad as this.
@@horrorpowerfilms9481 😂 Who’s saying Prince “owed his career to Mazerati”??? No one.
I’m saying that Mazerati & David Z changed “Kiss” significantly and Prince then recorded “Kiss” based directly on Mazerati’s & David Z’s version on the song - NOT Prince’s demo or vision of the song.
Thank god Prince took it back - you now know why mazarati didn't make it
Nobody did it better than Prince
Interesting. Glad Prince decided to make this song HIS!
That date seems to be wrong. Mis-labeled session sheet? Maserati’s demo couldn’t have been recorded Feb of ‘86, as Prince released his single on Feb 5th of that year. He allegedly recorded his version in April the previous year.
Prince's swagger, confidant falsetto and chicken grease guitar licks are what made his version a hit. Mazarati's version has none of those.
Exactly, it's boring and monotonous.
Here's a little reminder.
Mazarati turned this demo overnight into the version that gave Prince the hit we know today. Without their input, this could have turned into something completely else.
th-cam.com/video/oSm9voCZ_L4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=9JyL-9intj3pN4H2
NOPE, this doesn't sound nothing like the Prince hit.
@@horrorpowerfilms9481, since you still don't get it:
th-cam.com/video/taHL78-l-eY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=JMnZwKH_1Akeby4e
Who's the Vocalist?
Prince to Brown Mark: It Sounds cool and all, but you guys go to lunch real quick, and give me 20 minutes alone. Just want to add a couple things. 😆
add? it was his song, he din't no permission from no one.
So yeah, this song... he did them dirty. Even when he mentioned it to Larry King, he said something like it was a mystery how these happen... but he knew. David and maybe Mark should have gotten co-writing and co--produced credits. The vast majority of its over all sound was David and/or Mark's work....
LOL! co-writing and co--produced credits?!!! so just because somebody help on a song does not mean they own it, it was a Prince song. What's next? Prince should get a check every time David or Mark mention him?
@@horrorpowerfilms9481 for Co-producing YES! its sound was produced by David and/or Mark.... there are conflicting stories as to how much of the lyrics Prince wrote vs David and/or Mark.
Interesting, thanks. I always expected it to sound much more like the extended part of the 12" release but I guess that's kinda a third interpretation. Undoubtedly the P release version is the best one. Made US number One, right? One of the last classic Prince tracks imo [Sign o Times and maybe Alphabet St being final ones].
Maserati prince influenced
Can someone stop Prince’s sister from putting everything that he did not want out out.
Does she work for Sony Music? They're currently in charge of new Prince music releases.
this demo goes 100mph
hmm,I wonder...if this version had actually been released first( instead of the obvious best version)as a B-side to 100 mi hr....? nahhh! It still wouldn't be hittin! But they are better than the group "Good Question" lol remember that? Lol that reference has absolutely nothing to do with the subject matter the duo just literally popped up in my memory! 😆 lol
This version was never released
Prince took it back before they had a chance
That sounds like Prince on bass. The problem is that the Mazarati lead is flat and doesn't bring any life to the song.
yeh nah on that…
This is awful and Prince did the right thing. I also wonder if the estate knows about this
th-cam.com/video/oSm9voCZ_L4/w-d-xo.html Love Prince to death but this demo ain't the greatest.
This version is booty