And he's a TB R7 platoon character. (ask me how I know...) I don't think Talia deserves to be on the list post new night sisters either; she gets a spot over Assaje often enough. Clone Sergeant, Phase 1 should be on there. Worse ship than resistance pilot too. Director Krennic. Also: Imperial Probe Droid? If his self-destruct would do enough to takeout something important and not allow revives, maaayyybe. Compared to gear for the tokens vs probe droid shards, I'm going gear 100% of the time currently. Mob Enforcer. Also note: Lando is pretty bad, buuut he's needed for JKL, JML, thus for Jabba too, and for Leia. So at least there's a 'payoff' to relicing him. And he was in the speeder bike.
Im think gomerian guard, unless im mistaken people use krrsantan over him any day of the week i also think mob enforcer would fit on this list, yes their required for jabba but thats it no use after that
They'll never do it, but I'd like it if CG just stopped with the constant new releases with 5 different versions of one character and just spend a few months reworking these old characters
The most funny thing about hoth rebel soldier is that nobody knows his kit except for the fact that he can taunt and therefore assumes he’s a tank. In case you need a reminder he’s a support 😂
Neat video idea concept, take all the "duplicate" characters like the 5 Hans, multiple Leias/Ahsokas etc, go through and decide: A- should they be in game at all given similarity to their counterparts B- if not, what character could take the kit? Swap the model with a new character but the kit stays identical maybe barring a tag, like say swapping STHan with an EU rebel, or MQG with Cap Panaka
I know this is a very unpopular opinion, but I was really struggling to get C-3PO to 7 stars when I used Paploo, but the minute I switched him out for Teebo, I got it done in a couple tries. I'm a big Teebo defender now.
Hmm . . . I'm unsure about putting Teebo that low. He can give his whole team 100% turn meter which REALLY helped me in the c3-p0 event. I really was thankful for him. Other than that the ranking is great. Poor ugnaught . . . lol. Why is he even there?
I agree about Teebo. He’s shockingly useful. I used to use his lead for GC and Conquest stealth feats before I had Maul’s zeta. He’s decent for TM removal too. Is he actually competitive? No. But dem feats? Aw yeah baby.
I'd say Greedo is better than one might think if you put him on the Boba Fett thermal detonators team where he does shine. That's a very good early to mid game team.
I would have swapped the two nightsisters, as talia does have the cleanse and healing (not great but it is something), which can be useful on the great mothwrs team, rather than the sword one (I get them muddled with the bow one), who is just useless.
In addition to your corrections about the resistance trooper in the comments, it synergizes incredibly well with JTR Leader giving him many consecutive turns with any resistance ally
I'm sure of hoth rebel soldier tbh. His only use is in hoth. Scout even better than him. I use mon mothma and tbh soldier sucks as character with her. I use scout that not even fully upgraded but still better than soldier
I use resistance trooper on finn semi regularly because he does more expose than someone like og poe. Hes less optimal from a durability standpoint but the team still beats gas and similar level teams with him.
of all of these, I just hope they rework kit fisto. They did him soooo dirty compared to his depiction in the shows and lore, where he fights grievous 1v1 with a smile, and was strong enough to be hand picked to take on sidious
They could release an omicron for og lando. Like give him advantage at the start of his turn, give him additional cd at the start and 5-10% tm for every critical hit he scores. Then let him stack the doubling damage on his special (no cap) with each successive hit. So the first time you do 100% damage, then 200%, then 400% etc. That way he could be a real menace.
Hey Songeta- the only difference in these videos from other streamers is the ranking of - having to farm crap characters for viable events- Clone Wars Chewie for platoons, Lando for GMK and Cody, - Urrrrrurrra for Jaba plus Jawa. Maybe I missed some of the point to this video but at lower GP you end up using these characters just for survivabiliy on their relic requirements. It’s really a meme I think. Most of these characters have no range other than cannon fodder. But the RNG is consistent.
Took one for the Guild and got cup to relic 7. TB operation for 11mill reached. So guild wise, the relic 7 will double your gp for the Guild. Was not fun to take it to relic 7, but hey, for the Guild and someone has to😅
SINCE you list characters from limited sized theme teams that only have 5 characters to it... I'd say #25 should be from clones troopers 555 fives, as whenever I see him it's naturally typical to see him in a themed Clone team with way more health then most, never the easy mark & with his sacrifice ability I take advantage and target the easiest kill, then he does his sac and I get two units killed off at the cost of killing the easiest unit twice and not having to deal with 555 Fives bulkiness... His ability would ge better and not so bad-- in my opinion if he didn't seem to usually be healthier than the rest, he should be the easiest to kill to make his sac ability annoying, cause then we'd either have to do single him out first THEN go for others. But always just seems to be a easy character to take advantage of the ability to sac himself... But I am still green. So what do I know? Just what I have seen and such. I think his sac ability is a weakness of mega proportions... Making otherwise possibly challenging battles much less so for a green player like me. Don't need to be a pro to exploit a weakness in a character... Lol
@@songeta How about Young Han Solo? I would suggest Young Lando also but I have him R5 so he must been in LSB or event req. But Young Han really bad, not needed for anything, and not even Qi'ra wants him.
Ummm.... not gonna lie... I am that weird guy, that seeing this kinda has the urge to prioritize building these trashies. :) Though I can say for me as a newb, Consular allowed me to do more stuff, mainly finish Galactic war, since my lineup had no sustain except for tanks self sustain. But I think here we are more talking about late-er game situations and I am nowhere near that :D
I would agree with the list except for Cody…I think Cody is way better than Clone Sergeant..why do we need clone sergeant if not for the ship and requiremnt to get JMK?
I‘d disagree with jawa engineer. I mean the whole point of jawas is to survive and stack thermals. A character that applies a thermal on his basic and heals the team is useful for this team. So he‘s definitely more useful than dathcha
Sadly this is only one off kinda :( Cuz this won't like ever update unless they do the reworks, but that won't get them money :/ Maybe you could expand the best characters in game to top 50? Sinds there came out so many great characters its hard to fit everything in only 25
4:00 A tusken raider & a jawa, both part of an only 5 units of those particular catagory characters....? I can see if you were doing a 'worst teams to farm' and if their TEAM made it, but they are both necessary for each a different team that ONLY has 5 characters & I fail to see why anyone would be using them IF NOT for their particular team ... I mean, I think we only use random units in our team early game, like a tusken or jawa til we get the or a preferred character but not a permanent characters outside of a theme team... So them being 'good' or not as a individual seems irrelevant.... To me, anyhow. Less you are suggesting if we do a Tusken or Jawa team, we just use the other 4 members and a character who isn't even Jawa/ Tusken?? It won't work right without the full squad-- or so I imagine. Then you mention Cody.... It's another character of an only 5 unit group.... It's not like the Jedi, rebel, imperial and such groups that has over 10 different characters who can to form/ could be used in the group... So, I just fail to see how they can make a list where they are judged individually, like one naturally uses them outside their given ONLY 5 singular characters for a single group. Less their are alternatives you suggest for each when forming the group... Just feel these individual characters made for a limited 5 character group SHOULD BE EXCLUDED as, who uses or is going to use them if they aren't after/ using the set...? Ok, clone troopers are in this group that the clone wars General Anakin and the Asoka are tagged for but still... Most seem to prefer the full on Clone ONLY theme. From what I see... Not no pro but know what I see people doing.
@@admiralweb27 Because you dont need good tank with JMK, just a tank. If you go mirror match and know CAT will jump tank, you can then use GK elsewhere.
I forgot that Resistance Trooper is a co-pilot, so given that I would NOT include him on this list! Who would you have at 25?
And he's a TB R7 platoon character. (ask me how I know...)
I don't think Talia deserves to be on the list post new night sisters either; she gets a spot over Assaje often enough.
Clone Sergeant, Phase 1 should be on there. Worse ship than resistance pilot too.
Director Krennic.
Also: Imperial Probe Droid? If his self-destruct would do enough to takeout something important and not allow revives, maaayyybe. Compared to gear for the tokens vs probe droid shards, I'm going gear 100% of the time currently.
Mob Enforcer.
Also note: Lando is pretty bad, buuut he's needed for JKL, JML, thus for Jabba too, and for Leia. So at least there's a 'payoff' to relicing him. And he was in the speeder bike.
@@auzor5900probe droid is good with aphra, self destruct is a bad ability but he doesn’t need to use it ever
Ewok Scout
Im think gomerian guard, unless im mistaken people use krrsantan over him any day of the week i also think mob enforcer would fit on this list, yes their required for jabba but thats it no use after that
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They'll never do it, but I'd like it if CG just stopped with the constant new releases with 5 different versions of one character and just spend a few months reworking these old characters
they're unlikely to do that,and since Great Mother is a thing,kinda wish they made that kind of lifter for alot of old unused character
They only rework when they have a specific comp in mind. ISC so Maul has a functioning team, Lobot so he can slot in with 5OR-T etc
the resistance tropper pilots the resistance bomber which is part of the raddus fleet
Whoops! Forgot that
interesting choice of malicos for #1, personally i wouldve gone for bane but you do you
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I shoulda read this before watching the video
They are more likely to add a veteran lando than rework the old one. It stinks that they don't rework cool characters.
Notice how there’s 8 Galactic Republic characters on the list. That faction truly does have both the best and worst characters in the game.
The most funny thing about hoth rebel soldier is that nobody knows his kit except for the fact that he can taunt and therefore assumes he’s a tank. In case you need a reminder he’s a support 😂
Well, there's this event for only tanks but also one for only 'support' characters... So that guy has a use.... If one does something with it, anyhow.
My hot take of the day: CUP should have been a requirement for GL Ahsoka
Fr and I think plo koon too.
@@JUICYbluepandaplo koon is one
@@JUICYbluepandaplo was the last req, at relic 7 or 8.
Oh, sorry guys, didn't see the last reqs
Old landos super power is called “plot hole” lol 😂
Exactly ;)
You could literally tell me any Jawa portrait belonged to any of the faction members. I’d be none the wiser. 😂
No coincidence that nearly all of these are Operations characters
Resistance trooper has a ship dude…
Whoops
How dare you make this list without Rose Tico. Pure Rubbish. JK
Neat video idea concept, take all the "duplicate" characters like the 5 Hans, multiple Leias/Ahsokas etc, go through and decide:
A- should they be in game at all given similarity to their counterparts
B- if not, what character could take the kit? Swap the model with a new character but the kit stays identical maybe barring a tag, like say swapping STHan with an EU rebel, or MQG with Cap Panaka
Maybe someday they’ll give us a Star Wars version of the Potara earrings and we’ll be able to take all 5 Hans and make a SUPER HAN.
I know this is a very unpopular opinion, but I was really struggling to get C-3PO to 7 stars when I used Paploo, but the minute I switched him out for Teebo, I got it done in a couple tries. I'm a big Teebo defender now.
Jedi Consular has some use for the Naboo raid
CW Chewie may be useful for Wookie team, but I think he can be replaced by Zaalbar, a stronger tank with stronger reviving ability ...
Cody with Bad Batch is decent. The mass assist after you have defense up can wreck a team though nowadays grevious is the only thing you’re shootint
Hmm . . . I'm unsure about putting Teebo that low. He can give his whole team 100% turn meter which REALLY helped me in the c3-p0 event. I really was thankful for him. Other than that the ranking is great. Poor ugnaught . . . lol. Why is he even there?
I agree about Teebo. He’s shockingly useful. I used to use his lead for GC and Conquest stealth feats before I had Maul’s zeta. He’s decent for TM removal too. Is he actually competitive? No. But dem feats? Aw yeah baby.
My man bodhi getting no love
I'd say Greedo is better than one might think if you put him on the Boba Fett thermal detonators team where he does shine. That's a very good early to mid game team.
I would have swapped the two nightsisters, as talia does have the cleanse and healing (not great but it is something), which can be useful on the great mothwrs team, rather than the sword one (I get them muddled with the bow one), who is just useless.
The cleanse also has tm gain. Tho I think it's only 15% so
In addition to your corrections about the resistance trooper in the comments, it synergizes incredibly well with JTR Leader giving him many consecutive turns with any resistance ally
Hey now! That’s my friend Clone Wars Chewie you’re talking about. What about defense up feats? 😂
I'm sure of hoth rebel soldier tbh. His only use is in hoth. Scout even better than him. I use mon mothma and tbh soldier sucks as character with her. I use scout that not even fully upgraded but still better than soldier
resistance trooper is a pilot too
Shoot, he is? Eff 😂
I use resistance trooper on finn semi regularly because he does more expose than someone like og poe. Hes less optimal from a durability standpoint but the team still beats gas and similar level teams with him.
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of all of these, I just hope they rework kit fisto. They did him soooo dirty compared to his depiction in the shows and lore, where he fights grievous 1v1 with a smile, and was strong enough to be hand picked to take on sidious
They could release an omicron for og lando.
Like give him advantage at the start of his turn, give him additional cd at the start and 5-10% tm for every critical hit he scores. Then let him stack the doubling damage on his special (no cap) with each successive hit. So the first time you do 100% damage, then 200%, then 400% etc.
That way he could be a real menace.
9:10 he is Clone Wars Chewbacca and he should be your first R9
Hey Songeta- the only difference in these videos from other streamers is the ranking of - having to farm crap characters for viable events- Clone Wars Chewie for platoons, Lando for GMK and Cody, - Urrrrrurrra for Jaba plus Jawa. Maybe I missed some of the point to this video but at lower GP you end up using these characters just for survivabiliy on their relic requirements. It’s really a meme I think. Most of these characters have no range other than cannon fodder. But the RNG is consistent.
The CUP disrespect is crazy uncalled for
he's been bought by lobbyists. thats the only explanation.
What's your opinion on Lobot?
At least a decent option for 5-0RT. The speed boosts are appreciated.
Not the worst! He used to be
Surprised not to see glam guard on the list
Took one for the Guild and got cup to relic 7. TB operation for 11mill reached. So guild wise, the relic 7 will double your gp for the Guild.
Was not fun to take it to relic 7, but hey, for the Guild and someone has to😅
Clone Wars Chewbacca is also nice with Tarfful
Sucks to see CUP so bad. I’m currently taking him to r7 for a rote platoon 😭
Seeing these Jawas and how much I suck at the Reva event. The force is weak in me apparently. 😂
Do you think the slkr lightspeed bundle will return in the next weeks?
To be fair Ima-Gun-Di Kam can hit like 120k I feel he should be a bit higher. Cody really hurts to see tho love him it’s a shame. Great list
First time I’ve managed to get the gp for proving grounds. Has it always been £30 entrance fee with the pass?
The Conquest Pass just gives you an extra day for Proving Grounds. It's completely free the next day, the Monday that Conquest ends.
I actually use old Lando with Sana Starros, he's pretty decent on that team. Not outstanding, but decent.
No regrets on my Bodhi omicron… 😂😂
I had to relic several of these for ROTE
SINCE you list characters from limited sized theme teams that only have 5 characters to it... I'd say #25 should be from clones troopers 555 fives, as whenever I see him it's naturally typical to see him in a themed Clone team with way more health then most, never the easy mark & with his sacrifice ability I take advantage and target the easiest kill, then he does his sac and I get two units killed off at the cost of killing the easiest unit twice and not having to deal with 555 Fives bulkiness... His ability would ge better and not so bad-- in my opinion if he didn't seem to usually be healthier than the rest, he should be the easiest to kill to make his sac ability annoying, cause then we'd either have to do single him out first THEN go for others. But always just seems to be a easy character to take advantage of the ability to sac himself... But I am still green. So what do I know? Just what I have seen and such. I think his sac ability is a weakness of mega proportions... Making otherwise possibly challenging battles much less so for a green player like me. Don't need to be a pro to exploit a weakness in a character... Lol
So sad 5 of them are jedi
It's sad there are 25!!!!
Was quite sure would disagree with this list a lot when saw 20-25 but rest was very fair so good list.
20-25 was the hardest!
@@songeta How about Young Han Solo? I would suggest Young Lando also but I have him R5 so he must been in LSB or event req. But Young Han really bad, not needed for anything, and not even Qi'ra wants him.
Ummm.... not gonna lie... I am that weird guy, that seeing this kinda has the urge to prioritize building these trashies. :)
Though I can say for me as a newb, Consular allowed me to do more stuff, mainly finish Galactic war, since my lineup had no sustain except for tanks self sustain.
But I think here we are more talking about late-er game situations and I am nowhere near that :D
WE NEED WAXER BOIL AND A CODY REWORK NGL
R6 Bodhi was worth it
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I would agree with the list except for Cody…I think Cody is way better than Clone Sergeant..why do we need clone sergeant if not for the ship and requiremnt to get JMK?
I think that you are wrong. CUP is hands down in the top 5 for BEST character
True, shame on me
I‘d disagree with jawa engineer. I mean the whole point of jawas is to survive and stack thermals. A character that applies a thermal on his basic and heals the team is useful for this team. So he‘s definitely more useful than dathcha
Sadly this is only one off kinda :( Cuz this won't like ever update unless they do the reworks, but that won't get them money :/ Maybe you could expand the best characters in game to top 50? Sinds there came out so many great characters its hard to fit everything in only 25
Justice for PLO KOON
Plo Koon is solid
Only seeing winners
oooooh. This is gonna be fun
4:00 A tusken raider & a jawa, both part of an only 5 units of those particular catagory characters....? I can see if you were doing a 'worst teams to farm' and if their TEAM made it, but they are both necessary for each a different team that ONLY has 5 characters & I fail to see why anyone would be using them IF NOT for their particular team ...
I mean, I think we only use random units in our team early game, like a tusken or jawa til we get the or a preferred character but not a permanent characters outside of a theme team... So them being 'good' or not as a individual seems irrelevant.... To me, anyhow.
Less you are suggesting if we do a Tusken or Jawa team, we just use the other 4 members and a character who isn't even Jawa/ Tusken?? It won't work right without the full squad-- or so I imagine.
Then you mention Cody.... It's another character of an only 5 unit group.... It's not like the Jedi, rebel, imperial and such groups that has over 10 different characters who can to form/ could be used in the group... So, I just fail to see how they can make a list where they are judged individually, like one naturally uses them outside their given ONLY 5 singular characters for a single group. Less their are alternatives you suggest for each when forming the group...
Just feel these individual characters made for a limited 5 character group SHOULD BE EXCLUDED as, who uses or is going to use them if they aren't after/ using the set...?
Ok, clone troopers are in this group that the clone wars General Anakin and the Asoka are tagged for but still... Most seem to prefer the full on Clone ONLY theme. From what I see... Not no pro but know what I see people doing.
Worst 25 basicaly dont relic unless neded in journey and no alternative?
Yeah pretty much - I forgot resistance trooper is a pilot though
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how dare you
CW Chewie can be tank for JMK :)
Yes, but... why would you do that.
@@admiralweb27 Because you dont need good tank with JMK, just a tank. If you go mirror match and know CAT will jump tank, you can then use GK elsewhere.
Dude, if you can't remember stuff write some notes...
After 860 something videos you kinda just roll with it
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Initiate is also good with great mothers, she shouldnt be on this list.