I need guidance yall. How can I make him better? Edit: yall are so kind, thank youuuu for all of the suggestions :). New video using yall suggestions is up. Very painful 10 cycles run, but 3 stars clear is 3 stars
From what I can see in your character menu at the end of the video… I would switch out Asta with robin, bronya with topaz/tingyun, and Gepard with another defensive unit that can offer more in terms of damage like fu xuan, huohuo, aventurine (literally any other 5 star sustain low-key). I’m not a professional character builder though so take it with a grain of salt
Idk what units you have but the general glaze team from what I know is huohuo, sparkle and ting if you have any of them. Ting especially with the asta LC
@@FridgeChan well bronya is a great choice thankfully, especially if you bought/pulled her lc for that bonus sp every now and again Sustainer then ig can be anyone since I dont think any of the others buff. Fu Xuan actually if you have her but yea, ting and bronya are the main ones in your case I'd say
Replace asta with Tingyun, Bronya with Robin/Sparkle/Ruanmei/Hanya. Use atk boots and lightning dmg sphere and crit rate honestly a bit low, aim for at least 70% cr, also Fu Xuan/Huohuo/Aventurine are great sustains for him, cuz they can provide additional utility for him.
tingyun is really great for him, penacony set on her would be ballers for JY too. Sustain is preferable if you want to stack speed/atk on her. Idk if DDD can help with LL, but the passive is still generally great for the team
He's good but there's a lot of conditions and characters to support him 1. He need to be prevented from crowd control at all cost, if he get CC then it's over. (Fu Xuan is the best match for him) 2. Bronya's buff cannot be used on Lightning Lord, it's run out before LL's turn 3. Like other comments mention, his scaling on ATK on Ult and Skill are poor, some Harmony unit is not fit for him, like Asta or Hanya. The Harmony that match him well are Sparkle, Tingyun, and Ruan Mei (imo, Robin is not match for him but still be playable with her) 4. He's a werid Erudition unit, His Lightning Lord is good against one boss unit but bad with its mob. His Skill and Ult is good against mobs but bad with one boss unit.
robin is actually good for him (since LL is a FUA) i paired robin/huohuo/ty (ER team) with jy and he peaked 500k (that is kinda based on ur crit chances) but usually its 300k-400k for me
Robin with JY Tingyun and Huohuo is his current highest damaging team. According to CN theorycrafters it outputs around 4.7mil within 5 cycles (Dan Heng IL E2 on his best team also outputs 4.7mil within 5 cycles) The difference is skill issue because Robin + Huohuo is much harder and more annoying to play with JY than the typical Sparkle/Tingyun combo
Jingyuan with his LC is pretty stable, this is just support problems. Midyuan only comes when you don't have his signature which boost his dmg by around 30%. I only use repose, mine deals around 220K with sparkle tingyun
@@FridgeChan Jingliu and Ratio definitely, she's still in the top 3 hypercarries. In CN server though, JY is pretty good pick for 0 cycle players. Without sustain and pure harmony, he can sometimes hit above 700K. This was pre-acheron though
@@FridgeChan No, you just need great support. Also Tingyun is generally the best support for JY, make sure she uses 2pc dream-seeking relic + Planetary Rendezvous. Take note though that he can't dish out that much dmg with a sustainer like gepard, it only works with buffer teams. Ex. Sparkle, JY, Tingyun, Hanya/Robin. They should also be speed tuned. Ps. However if you have Huohuo, she would be much better and consistent. Afterall 3 Harmony + 1 dps is luck based
@FridgeChan Nah I've seen people do 0 cycles with JY recently at e0s1, they usually add tips and explanations for why they use/don't use things at dif times. It's interesting to see he's got a high skill ceiling.
The same exact happened with me today when i tried him. Even with his LC he’s hitting so weakly with tingyun and topaz. Took me 10 cycles to clear with him, he really really needs sparkle/ruan mei/robin to clear moc. It’s just sad because i like his design so much.
I 3 cycled my jy in the first half I recommend switching bronya and asta for better supports for jy’s LL uptime like ty,sparkle and make sure you time its buff right or else LL would hit a wet noodle
yesss, thank you for the suggestion, sadly i dont have sparkle (i lost the 50:50 to bailu) so i have to use ruan mei and tried TY. i just cleared it in 7 cycles :(. dissapointing, but still managed to 3 star clear ahaha
I finished with in 5 cycles with JY, Ting, ruan mei and fuxuan. Bronya doesn't really do anything for him outside of her ult. Sparkle would be better. Ting over asta
I have a built jing yuan and i used up 5 cycles with sparkle, tingyun and loucha. I think its really hard . Maybe in a dial dps setup. Even dan il struggles
To be honest, jing yuan doesnt need speed stats at all, should prioritize crit and atk stats. His main dmg will be on lightning lord anyways. a little more crit rate will be fine and serve better than more crit dmg. From what I can tell, you dont have sparkle so sticking to bronya is just as fine to get him as many turns to make sure you can garuntee 10 lightning lord stacks (just keep ing mind that bronya cannot buff lightning lord damage because her buff lasts till the end of the target's turn, unlike sparkle who's buff lasts till the beginning of the target's next turn which makes her more valuable to jy) run tingyun over asta, bonus if you have planetary rendevouz light cone (not needed unless you dont mind sacrificing energy on tingyun for jing yuan personal dmg, otherwise use Memories of the past if it is s5, otherwise meshing cogs s5, meshing cogs is a 3 star harmony cone that gants a lot of energy). If you dont plan on using bronya/sparkle then keeping your speed stat is fine, and bronya can be replaced with ruan mei (if you have her) or hanya/asta which wont be as benefecial as bronya despite her not being able to buff ll Another consideration for a bronya replacement could be topaz since she buffs follow up damage, although its a bit more cluncky at times. I would highly recommend investing into lynx as well, the value of cleansing is very good in this MoC (unlesss you have other sustainers such as fu xuan, aventurine, or huo huo)
E0S0 Jingyuan with 3300 atk 60-198 rate/dmg. E0S1 Sparkle E1S1 Ruan mei E0S0 Huohuo he hits like 300k+ but its takes like 5 cycles and thats sucks i dont think having his LC will fix his problems so i give up. We need a harmony character to advanced forward summoned units. this thing is exist in simulated universe they should add this feature eventually, till then i'll use my acheron easy 2 cycle clear.
let's see here Relic - from the crit ratio i say pretty good (63% : 222%), - is that atk% on planar sphere? change it to lightning dmg boost%, jing yuan have like the worst atk scaling in the game if i remember correctly (due to jing yuan deal to all enemies. even then i'm pretty sure character with deal to all enemies like clara and argenti still has better atk% scaling) - if you asta in your team, it always better to use atk% boots than spd boots Team comp just like other people say, your team comp can be better - generally atk buffer like asta is not really that good for jing yuan (bad atk scaling in his kit) and dmg increase buffer like ruan mei, robin, etc or both like tingyun (more like ult regen but hey it give dmg increase buff on her ult) are always a better option - bronya is good, but the buff only last for 1 turn (it can't buff the follow up atk), sparkle buff on the other hand provide more reliable and high crit dmg% buff (your jing yuan crit rate is quite good) and last 1.9 turn (expire until the start on target next turn) so its has good chance to buff jing yuan follow up atk - honestly every healer/shielder/sustainer are viable for jing yuan. i say it depends on the enemy kit, in current MOC you probably need cleanser (lynx, fu xuan, etc) more than anything (that sleep is goddamn annoying)
ty so muchhhh for the suggestions, i really appreciate this. sadly, i dont have any lightning damage boost :((((((, but yes i realize the team comp is very bad and i should have gone for attack boots. ty so much friend
Replace Asta with Tingyun and Bronya with Ruan Mei, Topaz or Sparkle. Bronya isn't very good with him because she can't consistently buff Jing Yuan's follow up attack, and Tingyun is the support made for him since she can fill his ult. Additionally, Ruan Mei is great with him; the extra attack destroys any tenacity bar, and Topaz's debuff is excellent on him.
People keep talking about how JY gets a buff every update but they're capping hard. This man is weak. My Kafka team easily 0 cycled and they're all E0. With the addition of robin, Kafka is even stronger. If anything, the general is falling behind.
switch out bronya for ting bc the bronya e buff only lasts for jing yuans turn and does not go into the follow up dmg, put ting if played alone or even better robin if played in a double dps setup with topaz, topaz will make up for jing yuans backloaded dmg and will probably give u overall better dmg than hyper jing yuan without sparkle. also if u have try a sustain that has cc immunity or cleansing just in case he gets ccd
Oooohhhhhh, tysm bro, i wanna ask, why does sparkle works with JY? Is it because the buff lasts even until lightning lord attacks, meanwhile bronya's doesnt?
@@FridgeChan sirve porque sparkle bufea HASTA EL SIGUIENTE TURNO entonces el lightning lord si se beneficia de la e de sparkle, a diferencia de la e de bronya
Yeah exactly bronya e buff ends at the exact moment after ur character takes action while sparkle e buff lasts until they take a turn again@@FridgeChan
He's too weak now, even I own him e0s1 and my crit is 67/200 (fua relic) along with fuxuan, robin, tingyun, he still can't finish the boss quickly, it takes a lot of cycles . I've been using him since ver 1.0 but now he should "retire early". Jingyuan in MoC is no longer good, you should only use him for main quests or side quests, but if you use him in MoC, forget it, pure fiction is still okay but not too great
I agree. If a character have 3 S tier supp and still underperforming with other characters that only need less support and investment, that char (JY) is just that bad
heres the best advice i can give you for making jingyuan op go to team selection search for jingyuan and replace him with any other hero instant improvement
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I need guidance yall. How can I make him better?
Edit: yall are so kind, thank youuuu for all of the suggestions :). New video using yall suggestions is up. Very painful 10 cycles run, but 3 stars clear is 3 stars
From what I can see in your character menu at the end of the video… I would switch out Asta with robin, bronya with topaz/tingyun, and Gepard with another defensive unit that can offer more in terms of damage like fu xuan, huohuo, aventurine (literally any other 5 star sustain low-key). I’m not a professional character builder though so take it with a grain of salt
@@GlowstickX157 thank youuuu, this is so helpful
Idk what units you have but the general glaze team from what I know is huohuo, sparkle and ting if you have any of them. Ting especially with the asta LC
@@BasementBubbatunde I dont have huehue and sparkle, sad :(
@@FridgeChan well bronya is a great choice thankfully, especially if you bought/pulled her lc for that bonus sp every now and again
Sustainer then ig can be anyone since I dont think any of the others buff. Fu Xuan actually if you have her but yea, ting and bronya are the main ones in your case I'd say
Replace asta with Tingyun, Bronya with Robin/Sparkle/Ruanmei/Hanya. Use atk boots and lightning dmg sphere and crit rate honestly a bit low, aim for at least 70% cr, also Fu Xuan/Huohuo/Aventurine are great sustains for him, cuz they can provide additional utility for him.
Tysm for the tips bro, i really appreciate this :))))
el pj gana prob critica de una pasiva, 60 esta bien
tingyun is really great for him, penacony set on her would be ballers for JY too. Sustain is preferable if you want to stack speed/atk on her. Idk if DDD can help with LL, but the passive is still generally great for the team
He's good but there's a lot of conditions and characters to support him
1. He need to be prevented from crowd control at all cost, if he get CC then it's over. (Fu Xuan is the best match for him)
2. Bronya's buff cannot be used on Lightning Lord, it's run out before LL's turn
3. Like other comments mention, his scaling on ATK on Ult and Skill are poor, some Harmony unit is not fit for him, like Asta or Hanya. The Harmony that match him well are Sparkle, Tingyun, and Ruan Mei (imo, Robin is not match for him but still be playable with her)
4. He's a werid Erudition unit, His Lightning Lord is good against one boss unit but bad with its mob. His Skill and Ult is good against mobs but bad with one boss unit.
i couldn't agree more with your points, and thank youuu for the team comp suggestions
robin is actually good for him (since LL is a FUA)
i paired robin/huohuo/ty (ER team) with jy and he peaked 500k (that is kinda based on ur crit chances) but usually its 300k-400k for me
Robin with JY Tingyun and Huohuo is his current highest damaging team. According to CN theorycrafters it outputs around 4.7mil within 5 cycles (Dan Heng IL E2 on his best team also outputs 4.7mil within 5 cycles)
The difference is skill issue because Robin + Huohuo is much harder and more annoying to play with JY than the typical Sparkle/Tingyun combo
Jingyuan with his LC is pretty stable, this is just support problems. Midyuan only comes when you don't have his signature which boost his dmg by around 30%. I only use repose, mine deals around 220K with sparkle tingyun
Yes, but as far as i know other dps with lower stats have damage way higher than him, like jing liu or selee or ratio
@@FridgeChan Jingliu and Ratio definitely, she's still in the top 3 hypercarries. In CN server though, JY is pretty good pick for 0 cycle players. Without sustain and pure harmony, he can sometimes hit above 700K. This was pre-acheron though
@@Reversely whatttt? How tho? E6S5? How???
@@FridgeChan No, you just need great support. Also Tingyun is generally the best support for JY, make sure she uses 2pc dream-seeking relic + Planetary Rendezvous. Take note though that he can't dish out that much dmg with a sustainer like gepard, it only works with buffer teams.
Ex. Sparkle, JY, Tingyun, Hanya/Robin. They should also be speed tuned.
Ps. However if you have Huohuo, she would be much better and consistent. Afterall 3 Harmony + 1 dps is luck based
@FridgeChan Nah I've seen people do 0 cycles with JY recently at e0s1, they usually add tips and explanations for why they use/don't use things at dif times. It's interesting to see he's got a high skill ceiling.
The same exact happened with me today when i tried him. Even with his LC he’s hitting so weakly with tingyun and topaz. Took me 10 cycles to clear with him, he really really needs sparkle/ruan mei/robin to clear moc. It’s just sad because i like his design so much.
Realllllll af. Sadly, hoyo dont buff old chars :(
I'm a Jing Yuan main and I know he sucks. So just give up
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱
Jng Yuan really deserves to be stronger
I agree, even tho my team comp in this video is SOOOOO wrong ahahaha
I 3 cycled my jy in the first half I recommend switching bronya and asta for better supports for jy’s LL uptime like ty,sparkle and make sure you time its buff right or else LL would hit a wet noodle
yesss, thank you for the suggestion, sadly i dont have sparkle (i lost the 50:50 to bailu) so i have to use ruan mei and tried TY. i just cleared it in 7 cycles :(. dissapointing, but still managed to 3 star clear ahaha
I finished with in 5 cycles with JY, Ting, ruan mei and fuxuan. Bronya doesn't really do anything for him outside of her ult. Sparkle would be better. Ting over asta
Thank you for the tipsss my guy
I have a built jing yuan and i used up 5 cycles with sparkle, tingyun and loucha. I think its really hard . Maybe in a dial dps setup. Even dan il struggles
5 cycles even with sparkle???? I have no chance then :(
To be honest, jing yuan doesnt need speed stats at all, should prioritize crit and atk stats. His main dmg will be on lightning lord anyways. a little more crit rate will be fine and serve better than more crit dmg.
From what I can tell, you dont have sparkle so sticking to bronya is just as fine to get him as many turns to make sure you can garuntee 10 lightning lord stacks (just keep ing mind that bronya cannot buff lightning lord damage because her buff lasts till the end of the target's turn, unlike sparkle who's buff lasts till the beginning of the target's next turn which makes her more valuable to jy)
run tingyun over asta, bonus if you have planetary rendevouz light cone (not needed unless you dont mind sacrificing energy on tingyun for jing yuan personal dmg, otherwise use Memories of the past if it is s5, otherwise meshing cogs s5, meshing cogs is a 3 star harmony cone that gants a lot of energy).
If you dont plan on using bronya/sparkle then keeping your speed stat is fine, and bronya can be replaced with ruan mei (if you have her) or hanya/asta which wont be as benefecial as bronya despite her not being able to buff ll
Another consideration for a bronya replacement could be topaz since she buffs follow up damage, although its a bit more cluncky at times.
I would highly recommend investing into lynx as well, the value of cleansing is very good in this MoC (unlesss you have other sustainers such as fu xuan, aventurine, or huo huo)
Yesss, thank you so much for the suggestions, i use ty and rm for support now
E0S0 Jingyuan with 3300 atk 60-198 rate/dmg.
E0S1 Sparkle E1S1 Ruan mei E0S0 Huohuo he hits like 300k+ but its takes like 5 cycles and thats sucks i dont think having his LC will fix his problems so i give up. We need a harmony character to advanced forward summoned units. this thing is exist in simulated universe they should add this feature eventually, till then i'll use my acheron easy 2 cycle clear.
I agree. Some people now use JY full break with harmony mc and its way better than CR/CD. JY is bad :)
let's see here
Relic
- from the crit ratio i say pretty good (63% : 222%),
- is that atk% on planar sphere? change it to lightning dmg boost%, jing yuan have like the worst atk scaling in the game if i remember correctly (due to jing yuan deal to all enemies. even then i'm pretty sure character with deal to all enemies like clara and argenti still has better atk% scaling)
- if you asta in your team, it always better to use atk% boots than spd boots
Team comp
just like other people say, your team comp can be better
- generally atk buffer like asta is not really that good for jing yuan (bad atk scaling in his kit) and dmg increase buffer like ruan mei, robin, etc or both like tingyun (more like ult regen but hey it give dmg increase buff on her ult) are always a better option
- bronya is good, but the buff only last for 1 turn (it can't buff the follow up atk), sparkle buff on the other hand provide more reliable and high crit dmg% buff (your jing yuan crit rate is quite good) and last 1.9 turn (expire until the start on target next turn) so its has good chance to buff jing yuan follow up atk
- honestly every healer/shielder/sustainer are viable for jing yuan. i say it depends on the enemy kit, in current MOC you probably need cleanser (lynx, fu xuan, etc) more than anything (that sleep is goddamn annoying)
ty so muchhhh for the suggestions, i really appreciate this. sadly, i dont have any lightning damage boost :((((((, but yes i realize the team comp is very bad and i should have gone for attack boots. ty so much friend
Parah sih king ini setahun nunggu LL nya
LL apaan king?
@@FridgeChan itu si lord kuning
@@MichuNakiri Owalahhhhh, lightning lord, belom lagi kalo JY ke stun, ilang dah tuh orang
My team Tingyun Asta Luocha
how many cycles to clear node 1 broo???
@@FridgeChanHaven't tried it on Gepard yet, previously in MoC 12 Cocolia got 4 cycles, focused on building Second Party 😅
@@kardus1648 ooohhhh, i see
Replace Asta with Tingyun and Bronya with Ruan Mei, Topaz or Sparkle. Bronya isn't very good with him because she can't consistently buff Jing Yuan's follow up attack, and Tingyun is the support made for him since she can fill his ult. Additionally, Ruan Mei is great with him; the extra attack destroys any tenacity bar, and Topaz's debuff is excellent on him.
Ahhhh, I see, thank you so muchhh bro
People keep talking about how JY gets a buff every update but they're capping hard. This man is weak. My Kafka team easily 0 cycled and they're all E0. With the addition of robin, Kafka is even stronger. If anything, the general is falling behind.
Couldn't agree more
Just pull Acheron or invest in a Super-Break team. Mid-Yuan needs too much to be good in MoC, especially his LC
yessirrrrr, i have e2s1 acheron, and SUPER BREAK LOOKS OP. i gotta build super break
switch out bronya for ting bc the bronya e buff only lasts for jing yuans turn and does not go into the follow up dmg, put ting if played alone or even better robin if played in a double dps setup with topaz, topaz will make up for jing yuans backloaded dmg and will probably give u overall better dmg than hyper jing yuan without sparkle. also if u have try a sustain that has cc immunity or cleansing just in case he gets ccd
Oooohhhhhh, tysm bro, i wanna ask, why does sparkle works with JY? Is it because the buff lasts even until lightning lord attacks, meanwhile bronya's doesnt?
@@FridgeChan Pretty much ye
@@FridgeChan sirve porque sparkle bufea HASTA EL SIGUIENTE TURNO entonces el lightning lord si se beneficia de la e de sparkle, a diferencia de la e de bronya
Yeah exactly bronya e buff ends at the exact moment after ur character takes action while sparkle e buff lasts until they take a turn again@@FridgeChan
He's too weak now, even I own him e0s1 and my crit is 67/200 (fua relic) along with fuxuan, robin, tingyun, he still can't finish the boss quickly, it takes a lot of cycles . I've been using him since ver 1.0 but now he should "retire early". Jingyuan in MoC is no longer good, you should only use him for main quests or side quests, but if you use him in MoC, forget it, pure fiction is still okay but not too great
I agree. If a character have 3 S tier supp and still underperforming with other characters that only need less support and investment, that char (JY) is just that bad
heres the best advice i can give you for making jingyuan op
go to team selection
search for jingyuan
and replace him with any other hero
instant improvement
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