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- RUST Cosmic Desktop on Pop!_OS made by System 76 was at the LinuxFest Northwest Conference. Let's talk about the quality of life updates and dev in this Pop!_OS Cosmic Rust Desktop Environment.
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What are your thoughts on the UI/UX so far?
glad to hear that the progression has been good
Will it be using libadwaita or gtk3? As a Cinnamon user, that's my main question.
@@SavvyNik It's honestly looking really good. I remember trying Rust COSMIC in a VM like 3 months ago, and ofc it was pretty buggy, but the UI was amazing. Now it's looking awesome, although one complaint I have is if a window overlaps another window and neither are in focus, there's really no shadow on the borders, so they just blend in.
@@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 It uses the ICE Toolkit.
@@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 Neither. It uses libcosmic, based on the iced toolkit.
Okay, I was wrong. Deleted a post calling the UX bland but since trying the current version of Cosmic I really like it's functionality and organization. Apologies to the artist.
Glad to hear you came around
I’m a super noob when it comes to Linux but I’m quite excited by how active the development is! So many things to try and all open source! ❤️
Thanks for sharing your point of view and review from this!
I'm really excited about Cosmic DE and its release. 😁
Can't wait!
Pop OS and Zorin OS are my two go to distros.
PoP OS is k, Zorin is toxic!
Thanks! Zorin Fan Boy for 4 months now lol, I sure love the look of the App Store and it sure looks like a Ubuntu+Gnome look and feel and pretty much cant go wrong with that OS.
Appreciate the support! Glad you found a good distro for yourself. Any thoughts of testing out cosmic when it officially drops?
@@SavvyNik Indeed and yup will try it out. Thanks to you too I learned so much from your channel.
Love to hear it
Love the work that you are doing fam!
thanks ... hope i can install it soon
Is it themeable, or is it like libadwaita? Can you set titlebar heights to something smaller, change icons etc.
you don't even need cosmic DE, the store can be installed from 22.04:
sudo apt install cosmic-store
my testing, the cosmic store stops running when you close it, and only consumes about 100 MB of RAM. Whereas the pop-shop (elementary store) runs all the time and consumes roughly 650 MB of RAM.
if you want to remove the pop-shop:
sudo apt remove pop-shop
thank you so much
The only feature i want that they may not have is borderless windows mode. Similar to a WM, i want to be able to disable the borders
Would love to see cosmic getting global menu in full screen
You should take a look at Cosmic Tweaks by Eduardo
Oo is this like gnome tweaks?
I hope so, and I hope it can be activated with just a simple press on the Win key.
I’m pretty sure you’ll be able to choose your super key
How did you create the virtual machine with Virtualbox ?
Web Apps is VERY similar to Linux Mint's Web App Manager.
👍!
Nice video, but you didn't add the video link in the description :)
Crapp… thanks for the reminder
Fixed now!
@@SavvyNik Thanks!
I just need to see how its going to handle QT aopps, I mean they seemingly got GTK covered but QT 4/5/6 apps?
That is currently a work in progress.
it will be nice if it will have window rules setting just like kde
I wonder how long it will be before this will be available in Debian Stable repositories once it's officially released...
The way it’s being ported to other distros I’d be surprised if it takes long. At least for the unofficial repos
Depends when the next Debian stable is released. Could be years before the next Debian release.
@@mmstick so system76 won't host a generic apt repo for cosmic?
@@kamil.g.m No, you would have to create a repository targeting each specific version of a distribution to package with that distribution's packaging environment. The desktop environment is not a static app, after all.
they release on a two year cycle tho?
Why do no Linux app stores have the ability to sort by downloads? I just wanna know the most popular apps as a newer Linux user and it’s never an option.
Let’s petition to get it added
There's no download count. Where would you get this from?
@@mmstick Only from flathub
I think this may be problematic. To have reliable usage counts you have to prevents scripts downloading the same file 1000s of times. And countless Linux users can write one in like 5 minutes.
So then you need to create accounts and only count one download per account. But creating thousands of accounts is also easily scriptable.
So then you have to verify accounts with real emails or phone numbers, analyse fraud attempts, monitor and track account activities, which is what all app stores are doing.
And at that point - what are you even doing and why?....
If I could figure out how to theme pop id use it lol
Cosmic is looking much better, I will give my personal thought though on their DE programs they still need a lot of work, but luckily I can use nautilus and i like kate as a editor for editing stuff personal pref, but yeah the desktop looking very good and very excited for the Alpha/Beta, once again bud great video! Cheers.
oh great / learn another Desktop enviornment / I will wait and observe / thanks for the video
I am confused between hyperland and cosmic but i am done with gnome
The work on the market app is very welcome, I love gnome but the store is absolutely horrendous from a performance perspective, and the incessant reloads. It's appaling, especially since it's the gateway to other great foss apps.
I spent my first year on Linux distro hopping, and I liked Pop!_OS much better than Ubuntu. However, I have found that I really like the amount of control I have with KDE. If Cosmic is anything like Gnome then I might not actually like it.
I looked and looked and I could not find a way to change the theme in pop os other than light/dark. That hideous bright as heck cyan selection color was entirely non-configuration. Tweaks has only a few options, really just fonts. Back to KDE for a decent desktop I guess. I had no idea GNOME was such garbage!
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While I like the speed of the new Cosmic App Store; visually it doesn't look that good.
IMO they should implement a rating system.
Looks better than every other app store I've seen on Linux. Clean, concise, and compact. Even better, it's responsive to small window widths. GNOME Software's the absolute worst of the bunch. Just needs some improvements to the rendering of HTML markup in app metadata descriptions.
@@mmstick it is planned to add sorting/filters to the search in the future?
The best new UI innovation (other than Unity) is the GNOME Activities Overview, and Cosmic removes it.
afaik they have an experimental overview that comes with the cosmic de and can be launched from the applications menu, so i think the overview will be in the final version
@@HatsuSixty I hope so, and I hope it can be activated with a single key/button press.
Cosmic is not gnome.
Also the activity overview is not new?
GNOME is awful, tiling FTW.
I don’t think it would suit the tiling workflow well
is this a new linux from pop_os company?
I really dislike their light theme. They should really exchange the white and grey. It makes visually no sense in the current state.
It is like that to increase contrast and highlight interactable elements. Material Design 3 has similar color distribution.
But you can change the default colors in Settings and have the reversed color distribution, or any colors you want.
There is no one light theme. You make it as light or as dark as you want it to be.
colors look horrible though. too black, outline is too bright etc. , but overal good changes
You can change the colors
@@Anthenriiigoesnutttss that's not a valid excuse for bad colors... imagine if it were Gnome. every linux guru would shit on them
Can't wait for this project to be abandoned in a few years and for seven new ones to be born out of its forks.
What makes you think that is even possible?
Looks much worse than GNOME
The best new UI innovation (other than Unity) is the GNOME Activities Overview, and Cosmic removes it.
They can't remove something when they are building it from scratch
I have no problem with that since I disabled overview on gnome
@@0x00a Cosmic started as a set of GNOME Shell extensions that removed it.
@@pixelforg that doesn't make any sense. Why would anyone choose to have a worse experience?
@@Lestibournes For me overview was the worse experience, I'll explain how it was. Long comment ahead.
So I was using default gnome at first and like everyone I was using the overview, however I started getting pissed off when I got frame drops or stutter, I'm not using some super old gpu (6600XT). Realising that animations just aren't perfect here I then disabled them because I'd rather have no animations than get stutter sometimes.
So i was using gnome overview without any animations. Some time later I tried pop os and the workflow instantly clicked for me, i like to just press the super key to show the launcher and then search for the app I want to use, this is much faster and has less clutter than going to the overview and finding the app. On gnome I'm replicating this using the Arc Menu extension, and since i stopped using the overview I just disabled it.
I like where cosmic is heading, I tried it today and it's much better than gnome, everything opens faster (I got tired of seeing loading spinners just to open my terminal.....), can't wait until cosmic is stable!
And it'll also kill my urge to try some tiling wms , the tiling in it is perfect for me