The black plastic on the back isn't just for the LINQ system. The plastic on the back is for the battery which they moved to center the mass from left to right. Good video!
Keep these type of videos coming AJ! I'm hoping to see a 600 class shoot-out in crossover/long track trail sleds (renegade vs. xf/zr 137 vs. switchback xcr/pro-s)
I’m absolutely loving these videos. It’s important and interesting to learn about the tiny details of the sled that might not make it into the full-feature show. Thank you.
You’re the man Luke!! I have a Skidoo 500ss TNT and ride Tug Hill, NY. I’m a subscriber to your TH-cam channel and love getting all the latest news and sled updates. Keep those videos coming!!!! Braaaaap
To my knowledge there are currently two carbide lengths available for the pilot ts ski, but I was told that there was a third longer option available when they first came out with the ski. I was also told it is no longer available. I’m asking because I like to ride hard in the twisty‘ and for sure want to know my sled is going to turn when I get to the corner. That being said, I know a split second of throttle let off helps to set the front end when entering the corner. I’m always striving to get my set up that good that I don’t have to do this. I’m riding a 2016 MXZ XRS 800 and I weigh 260. I don’t care how hard it is to turn the skis as long as they turn when asked to. I was in Munising Michigan last year and the snow was more like the consistency of sleet. Had to modify most of my set up to work in it. The carbides I pretty much ran all the way down. When crossing some railroad tracks the one carbide bit pretty hard. I had to rebuild my front end at the end of the season. Do you think this ski with the carbide all the way down could be a problem under those conditions? Considering how I ride, would another ski be a better fit?
Gotta love the new Doo's. There is gonna be some big shake ups these next couple years.. If that RS motor makes it to the trails next year it's going to set the competition back on their heels for sure. Keep the videos coming AJ.
I know that BRP isn't offering Lynx in North America, but writing this from a country where we have both Ski-Doo and Lynx on the market I'd love to see a comparison between their competing models. Sure, a lot i similar, but that also makes the comparison fair, it will be things like suspension etc that would be main focus. My personal impression is that Lynx is a bit sturdier build, and to be honest, way more popular. But then again, a test from you guys would be awesome. Come over to Sweden or Finland and do a proper episode!
Great walk around. Just a couple of FYI.... the freeride doesnt have the plastic cover behind the seat because that is where the battery is on the trail sleds. The adjustable bars do not go Up and Dowm, on this acccessory, the move fore and aft. The beauty of that design is the bars stay completely level (no roll). Ski-doo continues to rewrite the book on accessories and design. Keep up the good work.
What about a track shootout? Different log pattern & shape & lenght. Like is it better to have more skinnier log or less wide ones for on trail? Just putting this there...
Hey would you guys be able to do the backcountry x vs the sks 146 vs the switchback assault 144 ? Im trying to figure out what the best on and off trail sled is for 2018.
I just started my two boys into sledding this year and after watching your shows I decided to buy two of the fan cooled Indy's . I enjoy all your tests and walk arounds because I know I will have to upgrade someday ! I would like to know more about fan cooled sleds and what in the the future for our fan cooled motors technology and and innovation ? I would also like to learn more about the new 200cc Arctic Cat Yamaha ( because I put a deposit on one and just waiting till they get new stock ) and are the others planning one too ?
Wouldnt mind seeing some sort of a comparison of some of the top power sleds from each manufacturer including the sidewinder/cat turbo. Same with a 120-130hp comparison (skidoo 1200, viper, etec 600, cat 600 polaris 6000
Great Vids AJ. looking forward to the new season. Thanks for posting theses sneak peeks. Looking to purchase my first sled and really value the comparisons and the shootouts. What did this skidoo price out at with as you said all the extra bells?
are the seats the same on mxz and renegade in the gen4 ? was at the dealer they only had a renegade in gen4 seemed like it had a high spot on up front. dint really like that.
Being and ex racer also, as are most of my riding buddy`s. We tend to ride a little more aggressive then most to the point others won`t go with us. LOL So being 6'4" if it was your money which new 850 would be the choice for you. The Indy 129 or the XCR 850 or the XRS. Being new and unproven, I`m not to sure about the new Indy`s slide compared to the XCR or XRS
I'd like to see a comparison of sleds for part time 2 rider use. Use case is the sled is mostly used for a single rider, but sometimes a wife/child wants to come along too. How does a full time 2 up sled (i.e. Grand Touring) compare to a single rider sled (i.e. Renegade) with the second link seat added on.
You guys should build a sled for the iron dog race In Alaska and race it do a segment on the build and episodes following the sled through the race would be an incredible show
I’m guessing AJ you’re doing videos different this year from the past. It cost less money and more time to edit vids. keep up the great work over there hope to see you on the trails bro
Gabe G They're pretty close, I find the 154 gets up on top a bit quicker (more to do with the 3 inch compared to the 2.4). I did find the 154 was a lot better on the sidehill, it didn't trench out nearly as easy.
Awesome machine, sure it can show an outstanding performance, but number of tiny, fragile and complex parts, i mean plastic ones and others, well, it sometimes makes me confused about their utility and possibillity to repair them in tough conditions or in the situation when there ain't too many service or diler centers somewhere around.
Plan to machine the belt guard with the 850. When squeezing the throttle the belt rides high, heats up and detonates . Takes 2 hours to cut the scrap free. SkiDoo refuses to hear about the problem. Piss poor customer service.
Why they don’t give the Option to have a pull cord the reason I wouldn’t buy one these Electric start are a pain to deal with stuck buying batteries every year
For 15 to 17 grand they better have a set of lips that come out of the bars let alone fit and finish!! Jesus Christ the price of these things is fucking nuts!
what a huge pile of shit.... funny how he didn't mention anything about how these gen 4's are burning through belts like crazy and popping engines at 5000km..... and brp refusing to acknowledge they screwed over 17 850 owners by not backing up their product and fixing those major flaws.... this 850 is gainning the same reputation A/C got back in 2012
Michael Corriveau What’s your point? Run into a 1 inch sappling with a poo and you’ll...... oh wait that’s right a pool wouldn’t even make it there it’s break down 3 miles back. Same for cat and yamacat
The black plastic on the back isn't just for the LINQ system. The plastic on the back is for the battery which they moved to center the mass from left to right. Good video!
You guys produce the best most informed snowmobile videos in the industry! Second to none.
Keep the videos coming. We get a little more information on the sleds! I would love to see a shoot out between the xrs 850, xcr 800 and the rr 8000
Keep these type of videos coming AJ! I'm hoping to see a 600 class shoot-out in crossover/long track trail sleds (renegade vs. xf/zr 137 vs. switchback xcr/pro-s)
I’m absolutely loving these videos. It’s important and interesting to learn about the tiny details of the sled that might not make it into the full-feature show. Thank you.
Colin Watt, that's a Great name! my 11 year old is Colin Watts!! Just thought that was cool:-)
Yes, definitely has a different vibe from our show. Glad you enjoyed and thanks for viewing.
Love these vids you guys have been making. Simple, easy to watch and informative. Kind of like a no bs condensed version of your longer videos.
No doubt. Happy to hear that you liked it.
You’re the man Luke!! I have a Skidoo 500ss TNT and ride Tug Hill, NY. I’m a subscriber to your TH-cam channel and love getting all the latest news and sled updates. Keep those videos coming!!!! Braaaaap
Can you guys do a shootout between the Renegade XRS and the Switchback XCR?
Long track shoutouts are the best please do more of them
To my knowledge there are currently two carbide lengths available for the pilot ts ski, but I was told that there was a third longer option available when they first came out with the ski. I was also told it is no longer available. I’m asking because I like to ride hard in the twisty‘ and for sure want to know my sled is going to turn when I get to the corner. That being said, I know a split second of throttle let off helps to set the front end when entering the corner. I’m always striving to get my set up that good that I don’t have to do this.
I’m riding a 2016 MXZ XRS 800 and I weigh 260. I don’t care how hard it is to turn the skis as long as they turn when asked to.
I was in Munising Michigan last year and the snow was more like the consistency of sleet. Had to modify most of my set up to work in it. The carbides I pretty much ran all the way down. When crossing some railroad tracks the one carbide bit pretty hard. I had to rebuild my front end at the end of the season. Do you think this ski with the carbide all the way down could be a problem under those conditions? Considering how I ride, would another ski be a better fit?
That thing must pull HARD! Wish I had that kind of money!
id love to see a 146 freeride vs sks 146 that would be a sweet comparison
G4 fit and finish is truely awesome
Gotta love the new Doo's. There is gonna be some big shake ups these next couple years.. If that RS motor makes it to the trails next year it's going to set the competition back on their heels for sure. Keep the videos coming AJ.
I know that BRP isn't offering Lynx in North America, but writing this from a country where we have both Ski-Doo and Lynx on the market I'd love to see a comparison between their competing models. Sure, a lot i similar, but that also makes the comparison fair, it will be things like suspension etc that would be main focus.
My personal impression is that Lynx is a bit sturdier build, and to be honest, way more popular. But then again, a test from you guys would be awesome. Come over to Sweden or Finland and do a proper episode!
Damn!!! And I’m still riding a 98 670! Keep up the videos AJ!
Hey guys is there a big difference between the mxz with the 129 compared to the renegade 137 as far a a nice trail riding machine and bumps
Great walk around. Just a couple of FYI.... the freeride doesnt have the plastic cover behind the seat because that is where the battery is on the trail sleds. The adjustable bars do not go Up and Dowm, on this acccessory, the move fore and aft. The beauty of that design is the bars stay completely level (no roll). Ski-doo continues to rewrite the book on accessories and design. Keep up the good work.
I’m looking to either get the new xrs or the new xcr for some aggressive trail riding . It would be get if you can do a shutout .
What about a track shootout? Different log pattern & shape & lenght. Like is it better to have more skinnier log or less wide ones for on trail? Just putting this there...
Hey would you guys be able to do the backcountry x vs the sks 146 vs the switchback assault 144 ? Im trying to figure out what the best on and off trail sled is for 2018.
I just started my two boys into sledding this year and after watching your shows I decided to buy two of the fan cooled Indy's . I enjoy all your tests and walk arounds because I know I will have to upgrade someday !
I would like to know more about fan cooled sleds and what in the the future for our fan cooled motors technology and and innovation ?
I would also like to learn more about the new 200cc Arctic Cat Yamaha ( because I put a deposit on one and just waiting till they get new stock ) and are the others planning one too ?
Wouldnt mind seeing some sort of a comparison of some of the top power sleds from each manufacturer including the sidewinder/cat turbo.
Same with a 120-130hp comparison (skidoo 1200, viper, etec 600, cat 600 polaris 6000
Would love to see the Xrs 850 vs xcr 800 shootout
Really nice sled
Great Vids AJ. looking forward to the new season. Thanks for posting theses sneak peeks. Looking to purchase my first sled and really value the comparisons and the shootouts. What did this skidoo price out at with as you said all the extra bells?
I would like to see the 2018 skidoo blizzard and the new 2018 artic cat el tigre 800 review.
When you guys doing the Rene XRS???
are the seats the same on mxz and renegade in the gen4 ? was at the dealer they only had a renegade in gen4 seemed like it had a high spot on up front. dint really like that.
I would love to see more of the polaris titan.
At the end of the walkaround start it up
Ya lets hear it run !
Please do a feature on the 2018 Viper L-TX :)
Being and ex racer also, as are most of my riding buddy`s. We tend to ride a little more aggressive then most to the point others won`t go with us. LOL So being 6'4" if it was your money which new 850 would be the choice for you. The Indy 129 or the XCR 850 or the XRS. Being new and unproven, I`m not to sure about the new Indy`s slide compared to the XCR or XRS
I'd like to see a comparison of sleds for part time 2 rider use. Use case is the sled is mostly used for a single rider, but sometimes a wife/child wants to come along too. How does a full time 2 up sled (i.e. Grand Touring) compare to a single rider sled (i.e. Renegade) with the second link seat added on.
Can you guys PLEASE do a rush xcr 800 vs mxz x rs 850 vid??
You guys should build a sled for the iron dog race In Alaska and race it do a segment on the build and episodes following the sled through the race would be an incredible show
Lets see a shoot-out of this and the Sidewinder LTX LE!
Nice vid thx.
No problem!
Spring ordered a 2020 bc xrs 146 2inch powder max lava red and white
Do that shootout with the XCR, XRS, and Cat 800
I’m guessing AJ you’re doing videos different this year from the past. It cost less money and more time to edit vids. keep up the great work over there hope to see you on the trails bro
Deep powder cross overs. So shoot our Polaris sks 146 800, skidoo freeride 146 850, and the arctic cat high country 800 141.
Definitely would like to see big bore trail shootout. 850 the way out though.
so you cant get a gen 4 mxz 600 unless only the race sled? from what i understand.
ok i know now
Cross country racer shootout....xrs vs xcr vs zr rr
What they dont tell you about the new 850 is they can grenade drive belts in 100 miles. At $150-$200 each that gets really expensive.
I like the new logo!
Where is the 18 mountain cat or msled from arctic cat in general
High country vs sks 146 vs backcountry with 2.0 or 146 freeride would be Awsome.
Mxz x rs vs 8000rr vs rush xcr??
Let’s see a rough trail 600 shoutout!
I got the18 gade XRS.. BEST SLED IV EVER HAD
What did you have prior ? I'm going from the 12 renegade to the 19 gade xrs this year, I'm so excited!
would be cool to see a 146 freeride vs a 146 sks
Gabe G i want to see this too. should be picking up a sks146 this week
ive got a 850 summit 154 but really would like to see what the shorter 146 sleds can do, would make a for a great episode imo
Gabe G this video was posted this week and the 146 looks hilarious to ride. effortless wheelies. th-cam.com/video/-G393QAviuY/w-d-xo.html
Gabe G They're pretty close, I find the 154 gets up on top a bit quicker (more to do with the 3 inch compared to the 2.4). I did find the 154 was a lot better on the sidehill, it didn't trench out nearly as easy.
Let's see a big bore 137 shootout. Switchback xcr vs Renegade xrs vs 8000 rr
Love these videos! When are you gonna do one of the new Yamaha’s?
Sam Free These guys are so sponsored by BRP, don’t expect much Yamaha content.
They are sponsored by all companies
yea
very nice
Polaris had that 14 years ago for handlebar adjustment and everyone thought it was stupid
Spec out with everything except a windshield
"Shiny gray".... You mean silver?
Awesome machine, sure it can show an outstanding performance, but number of tiny, fragile and complex parts, i mean plastic ones and others, well, it sometimes makes me confused about their utility and possibillity to repair them in tough conditions or in the situation when there ain't too many service or diler centers somewhere around.
Do base model polaris Indy
Four stroke shoot out
Plan to machine the belt guard with the 850. When squeezing the throttle the belt rides high, heats up and detonates . Takes 2 hours to cut the scrap free. SkiDoo refuses to hear about the problem. Piss poor customer service.
Why they don’t give the Option to have a pull cord the reason I wouldn’t buy one these Electric start are a pain to deal with stuck buying batteries every year
For 15 to 17 grand they better have a set of lips that come out of the bars let alone fit and finish!! Jesus Christ the price of these things is fucking nuts!
Why dont you ever talk about MSRP? Is it because most people will think its insanely high?
Darrren Betker MSRP is not a valid argument when it comes to sleds. Get a dealer that knows you and i got my 19 bc xrs for 13900
the yellow frog. If spending that much might as well get the 200hp Yamaha!!
all your little plstic parts ready to break
what a huge pile of shit.... funny how he didn't mention anything about how these gen 4's are burning through belts like crazy and popping engines at 5000km..... and brp refusing to acknowledge they screwed over 17 850 owners by not backing up their product and fixing those major flaws.... this 850 is gainning the same reputation A/C got back in 2012
Run into a 1 inch sappling with this sled, and you'll be finding out exactly how many parts go into the front of this sled....$$$$$
Michael Corriveau What’s your point? Run into a 1 inch sappling with a poo and you’ll...... oh wait that’s right a pool wouldn’t even make it there it’s break down 3 miles back. Same for cat and yamacat