Grate video! You are a genius! I asked your opinion about this build in your "Reflux vs Igniter relic set edition" video few weeks ago and now you done it better! Thank you for it! I still do not pas from 3.8kk dps with all out atack an precise deager. In rest same skill build and similar tripods and stats. I think it is time to do some engravinds updates :)
@@arcfaire last week i switched to Crit but still on Casting with AOA and PD. Just i try my own build and play with Lightning Bolt 313 and Frost call 232. Also Mind enchant tripod on Doomsday, Explosion and Punishing strike. In this way i go 6Salvation for more atack and atack speed.... and all of your skill except Blaze, Rime arrow and counter are afected by AOA engraving.... I found it more DMG than usual Casting AOA Crit build. :)
If you want to play full swift I recommend playing 4dom2nm 1700 swiftness means a 5 sec downtime with conv judgement. I play a 50/50 swift-crit-split 2dom4nm. At 1200 swiftness boundless state+conviction/judgement gets you to an exact 0 second downtime on dominion set. I plan on switching to 4dom2nm with ancient accessories, because I can run awakening 1 as my +1 engraving. Currently I run 4dom/2nm in brel 5/6 with 30 sec downtime usually doesnt matter because of mechanics. With 2dom4nm I run out of awakeings before the last part of the fight. I guess full nightmare would work but the dmg sucks.
Thanks a lot for experimenting with different builds on sorcs. Casting is kinda forgotten , since everyone is following crit/swift insta casts or igniters. Turns out to be viable enough though. Would you be interested in making a similar video for the swift sorc ( instacast ) ? Not the JangJ version
I been running swift instant cast and it does around 3million dps 4x3 and Level 1 reflux. I've tried many times adding 5x3 with this same skill rotation on trixion and it never gotten to 4-5million dps... weirdly enough sometimes I try with higher level gems + igniter and it won't even get that much either. idk why but gonna try this build once i get back home from work.... seems interesting enough and I hope it works well with my engravings grudge level 3 - raid captain level 3 - hit master level 3 - adrenaline level 3 - reflux level 1. full level 7 gems and all tripods level 4/max.
I’ve been using another build like this only I have raid captain instead of grudge cuz I heard if you have max swiftness raid cap can be as strong as grudge and you use bubble shield with swift foot my full builds 4x3 1x1 raid captain reflux adrenaline hitmasterx3 and spirit asorbptionx1
@@funnyk17 I use raid captain level 3... reflux level 1. cheaper build for now as i am buying reflux books... 12 more to go :/ problem is my max dps is like 3mill 3.1 if i push very hard and get enough crit and hit all my abilities correctly. i am very happy with this build but in kakul it made me reconsider man, I feel like we were lacking damage, so i am not sure?
@@RyzhYYY I’m all swift no crit until I get a really good swift/crit neck but those are hard to find until I’m rich and still using one legendary piece too I haven’t done kakul yet not ilvl enough yet and a lil scared to do it
I play this same exact setup but on Igniter. I even played in in clown prog and 40%+ mvp'd against a 1510 shadowhunter and a near 1500 arcana. Those classes are by no means as strong as sorc in our patch (Arcana is fucking insane with balance patch) but still the build is super fun. It's in my opinion easily the most challenging way to play sorc because there is absolutely a most efficient way to fire off your skills in your ignite window to get 2 doomsday/punishing/explosion and 3 esoteric/rime/frost calls in 1 ignite. Edit: I don't use the exact same gem setup because I still play Spec Igniter often too, so instead of cooldown on punishing/explosion I have damage/cd on frosts call. Though I understand those cooldown gems matter on Reflux. Also by nature of igniter, it benefits more from Swift/spec so I run that on necklace and also from my testing 4dom/2night was consistently more damage but if I got into endless mana before or in the beginning of my ignite then 4 night bursted heavier.
Yeah I think both builds play similarly but swiftness igniter does more damage while reflux can blink. The last time I tested swiftness igniter you needed to proc CJ before you ignited to comfortably get off 2 of each big spell which turned me off from the build but I may revisit it again soon.
@@arcfaire CJ helps but it's not necessary to ignite! You're better off just ignite whenever you've got a window and getting the meter going again. For me, doing blaze doomsday esoteric ignite frosts call rime arrow then explosion punishing doomsday eso frost rime is my go to. At 1700 swiftness or if CJ procs beforehand you can double explosion/punishing no problem! I also put conviction on blaze and judgement on frosts call so if it procs during my opener I'll get the double explosion/punishing without stalling ignite
I imagine with crit synergies on your team and support buffs this could easily be a lethal build in raid settings that could rival the meta reflux builds. Looks like a fun alternative to try out in the future if I get bored of instant cast (my 1505 main is critflux, and 1475 alt is swiftflux, same skills & share gems). Could possibly let my swiftness alt do it since it already has the exact engravings setup, would just require some gems & tripod work done.
Hi, thank you for review.Sorc is my main but i dont have so much experience .It seems good for Valtan and Brelshaza but not so good for Vykas and Kuku Saidon so for raids who move alot.That are my 2 cents .
Cool, fun to play with other builds. For your preferred "max" dps you'd still go for the standard crit instant cast KBW variant right? This is just a fun option with casting right?
Wouldnt it make sense to just simply choose unavoidable fate for your punishing strike? is there a reason to go casting for that skill if you dont have AOA?
Hello! I'd like to do this same build on my sorc but atm I prefer to do 4x3 +1 or +2 build (to see if I like sorc playstyle). What engraving should I pick?
You can cancel any casting skill by casting another casting skill or Rime Arrow as it ends. You can cancel Rime Arrow with blink or spacebar. That's all there really is to it haha.
I know this is just a for fun build and not a dmg oriented one, but I feel like your rotation could improve a lot. Watching this seems like you are just spamming everything out of cd instead of doing a proper rotation trying to deal as much dmg as possible. For example, you always use explosion, punishing strike and some times even doomsday without your party synergy, when you use them blaze has already finished and you could just re cast it.
Okay it seems like you don't understand how Blaze or synergy works so let me break it down for you: When you hit an enemy with Blaze, a debuff is applied to the boss that increases all damage dealt to the boss by 6% for 8s. This is indicated by the fractured shield icon underneath the boss's health. In a swiftness build where your cooldowns are short, the cooldown of Blaze is shorter than 8 seconds meaning you don't have to cast it on cooldown to maintain the debuff. In addition, the Flame Expansion tripod on Blaze reapplies the debuff for an additional 3s. Rewatch the video - notice that the debuff persists on the boss throughout the entire test. I am also putting thought into the rotation. You want to use your long CD casting skills followed by your shorter CD instant skills so that by the time you're done you can repeat the cycle. Next time you feel that my rotation can improve, make sure you know it can =)
@@arcfaire yo you are right about the blaze thing, my bad there. Still, your rotation has a lot of down time and casting doomsday, explosion and punishing strike at the same time I don't feel like that's the most efficient thing to do. Take as example jangj's reflux sorc, he runs doomsday and punishing strike but he alternates between them on every rotation, not using them at the same time. Also something that can help with the cds, have you tried using conviction/judgement? You are playing swift reflux, I don't feel like your rotation should be just droping everything as fast as possible in the same time as a igniter sorc would do, you should have a constant rotation without downtimes. Also, I'm not pretty sure about this one and actually never tried, but when people from Korea want to replicate the yearning set bonus, they go SA 3, ASD2, MSD2.
I think AoA Crit and Crit tripods still good enough to go with. I run judg/conv and quick recharges and it feels good imho. And those dds Crit for a lot and all the time with enough Crit rate hehe. I could see trading one ring into swift for just a bit more QoL of AS / MS and for CDR of the filler skills but that'd be the most I'd change the build. And never going into the under 30% mana buff is ok to keep the big DPS coming! Especially doing mechanics of raid bosses there's no point to force that second buff to come online.
Since you're hitting behind it, doesn't it do less damage because hit master isn't procing? Why don't u hit from the side since isn't that how hit master is supposed to work?
ambush master/hitmaster/masterbrawler affect only skills that have the corresponding positional on the tooltip. In the case of Hitmaster it doesn't matter where you stand as long as your skills don't indicate a positional. Another example is the "Instant hit" counter skill on scrapper, its frontal attack, so ambush master doesn't boost the damage even if you hit it from the back.
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This looks super fun, thanks for taking the time to try it out and showcasing the results. Would love to see a swiftness version of ignite too
Maybe if I have some time =)
Grate video! You are a genius!
I asked your opinion about this build in your "Reflux vs Igniter relic set edition" video few weeks ago and now you done it better!
Thank you for it!
I still do not pas from 3.8kk dps with all out atack an precise deager. In rest same skill build and similar tripods and stats.
I think it is time to do some engravinds updates :)
AoA and PD are fine if you're running crit. Casting will always be lower damage in Trixion.
@@arcfaire last week i switched to Crit but still on Casting with AOA and PD. Just i try my own build and play with Lightning Bolt 313 and Frost call 232. Also Mind enchant tripod on Doomsday, Explosion and Punishing strike. In this way i go 6Salvation for more atack and atack speed.... and all of your skill except Blaze, Rime arrow and counter are afected by AOA engraving.... I found it more DMG than usual Casting AOA Crit build. :)
If you want to play full swift I recommend playing 4dom2nm 1700 swiftness means a 5 sec downtime with conv judgement.
I play a 50/50 swift-crit-split 2dom4nm. At 1200 swiftness boundless state+conviction/judgement gets you to an exact 0 second downtime on dominion set. I plan on switching to 4dom2nm with ancient accessories, because I can run awakening 1 as my +1 engraving. Currently I run 4dom/2nm in brel 5/6 with 30 sec downtime usually doesnt matter because of mechanics. With 2dom4nm I run out of awakeings before the last part of the fight. I guess full nightmare would work but the dmg sucks.
Thanks a lot for experimenting with different builds on sorcs. Casting is kinda forgotten , since everyone is following crit/swift insta casts or igniters. Turns out to be viable enough though. Would you be interested in making a similar video for the swift sorc ( instacast ) ? Not the JangJ version
I made a video a couple days ago on relic sets for that build so you can check that out =)
I been running swift instant cast and it does around 3million dps
4x3 and Level 1 reflux. I've tried many times adding 5x3 with this same skill rotation on trixion and it never gotten to 4-5million dps... weirdly enough sometimes I try with higher level gems + igniter and it won't even get that much either. idk why but gonna try this build once i get back home from work.... seems interesting enough and I hope it works well with my engravings
grudge level 3 - raid captain level 3 - hit master level 3 - adrenaline level 3 - reflux level 1. full level 7 gems and all tripods level 4/max.
I’ve been using another build like this only I have raid captain instead of grudge cuz I heard if you have max swiftness raid cap can be as strong as grudge and you use bubble shield with swift foot my full builds 4x3 1x1 raid captain reflux adrenaline hitmasterx3 and spirit asorbptionx1
@@funnyk17 I use raid captain level 3... reflux level 1. cheaper build for now as i am buying reflux books... 12 more to go :/
problem is my max dps is like 3mill 3.1 if i push very hard and get enough crit and hit all my abilities correctly.
i am very happy with this build but in kakul it made me reconsider man, I feel like we were lacking damage, so i am not sure?
@@RyzhYYY I’m all swift no crit until I get a really good swift/crit neck but those are hard to find until I’m rich and still using one legendary piece too I haven’t done kakul yet not ilvl enough yet and a lil scared to do it
I play this same exact setup but on Igniter. I even played in in clown prog and 40%+ mvp'd against a 1510 shadowhunter and a near 1500 arcana. Those classes are by no means as strong as sorc in our patch (Arcana is fucking insane with balance patch) but still the build is super fun. It's in my opinion easily the most challenging way to play sorc because there is absolutely a most efficient way to fire off your skills in your ignite window to get 2 doomsday/punishing/explosion and 3 esoteric/rime/frost calls in 1 ignite.
Edit: I don't use the exact same gem setup because I still play Spec Igniter often too, so instead of cooldown on punishing/explosion I have damage/cd on frosts call. Though I understand those cooldown gems matter on Reflux. Also by nature of igniter, it benefits more from Swift/spec so I run that on necklace and also from my testing 4dom/2night was consistently more damage but if I got into endless mana before or in the beginning of my ignite then 4 night bursted heavier.
Yeah I think both builds play similarly but swiftness igniter does more damage while reflux can blink.
The last time I tested swiftness igniter you needed to proc CJ before you ignited to comfortably get off 2 of each big spell which turned me off from the build but I may revisit it again soon.
@@arcfaire CJ helps but it's not necessary to ignite! You're better off just ignite whenever you've got a window and getting the meter going again. For me, doing blaze doomsday esoteric ignite frosts call rime arrow then explosion punishing doomsday eso frost rime is my go to. At 1700 swiftness or if CJ procs beforehand you can double explosion/punishing no problem! I also put conviction on blaze and judgement on frosts call so if it procs during my opener I'll get the double explosion/punishing without stalling ignite
I see, interesting - I'll have to do some testing =)
I imagine with crit synergies on your team and support buffs this could easily be a lethal build in raid settings that could rival the meta reflux builds. Looks like a fun alternative to try out in the future if I get bored of instant cast (my 1505 main is critflux, and 1475 alt is swiftflux, same skills & share gems). Could possibly let my swiftness alt do it since it already has the exact engravings setup, would just require some gems & tripod work done.
Yeah if only pheons didn't exist :(
Hi, thank you for review.Sorc is my main but i dont have so much experience .It seems good for Valtan and Brelshaza but not so good for Vykas and Kuku Saidon so for raids who move alot.That are my 2 cents .
Cool, fun to play with other builds. For your preferred "max" dps you'd still go for the standard crit instant cast KBW variant right? This is just a fun option with casting right?
Sure.
Hey i love this build but help me plz im lost a bit. How did u get 5 full engravings + 10 points in Spirit absorbtion??
trixion, spirit absorption is to simulate yearning
wouldn’t we have like 30 secs cd on the awakening after the first domination buff? we lose dmg buff and skill cd reduction bc of this correct?
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Wouldnt it make sense to just simply choose unavoidable fate for your punishing strike? is there a reason to go casting for that skill if you dont have AOA?
Electric Discharge does more damage than Unavoidable Fate and since casting animations aren't that long in this build I think it's worth taking.
i will def do this build on my alt mage, reflux is very fun to play and not that expensive
Hello! I'd like to do this same build on my sorc but atm I prefer to do 4x3 +1 or +2 build (to see if I like sorc playstyle). What engraving should I pick?
i would advise against this build if it's your first sorc build but if you want id do reflux grudge hit master raid captain + adrenaline
Ok thanks. Btw I'd just want to do some test because Idk if I prefer instant or casting reflux. I must try them before
the music in the back is sick, what is it?
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Did you test anything like hybrid 1k crit / 1k swift with these skills?
yeah they all kinda sucked
Is it posible to do the same piano on aechetine tech scouter/mechanist
idk
Hi Arc,
can you please explain how you reach 5 x 3 and 1 x 2 engravings?
Cut a 9/7 stone then travel forward in time a couple of months and get full ancient accessories.
@@arcfaire thank you
I think he meant your spirit absorb; which was added to mimic yearning.
I'm stuck with All-out Attack because its in my stone. I spent 200 pheons trying to make a different one and failed miserably.
:(
You can use AoA 3, grude 3, raid cap 3, himaster 3, adre 2, and reflux 1
Can you post rotation? I tried to recreate everything in the video but end up doing 450m dmg and 3.8 dps
I show a rotation in the video.
@@arcfaire can you make a video going into the animation canceling?
You can cancel any casting skill by casting another casting skill or Rime Arrow as it ends.
You can cancel Rime Arrow with blink or spacebar.
That's all there really is to it haha.
extreme swiftness build is lots of fun, hurts the fingers if you arent use to it tho.
im 1512 sorce with non casting skills, pure fast pace playstyle. I'm tired of missing my casting skills on early game, lol.
is precise dagger good for reflux?
no
I know this is just a for fun build and not a dmg oriented one, but I feel like your rotation could improve a lot. Watching this seems like you are just spamming everything out of cd instead of doing a proper rotation trying to deal as much dmg as possible.
For example, you always use explosion, punishing strike and some times even doomsday without your party synergy, when you use them blaze has already finished and you could just re cast it.
Okay it seems like you don't understand how Blaze or synergy works so let me break it down for you:
When you hit an enemy with Blaze, a debuff is applied to the boss that increases all damage dealt to the boss by 6% for 8s.
This is indicated by the fractured shield icon underneath the boss's health.
In a swiftness build where your cooldowns are short, the cooldown of Blaze is shorter than 8 seconds meaning you don't have to cast it on cooldown to maintain the debuff.
In addition, the Flame Expansion tripod on Blaze reapplies the debuff for an additional 3s.
Rewatch the video - notice that the debuff persists on the boss throughout the entire test.
I am also putting thought into the rotation. You want to use your long CD casting skills followed by your shorter CD instant skills so that by the time you're done you can repeat the cycle.
Next time you feel that my rotation can improve, make sure you know it can =)
@@arcfaire yo you are right about the blaze thing, my bad there. Still, your rotation has a lot of down time and casting doomsday, explosion and punishing strike at the same time I don't feel like that's the most efficient thing to do.
Take as example jangj's reflux sorc, he runs doomsday and punishing strike but he alternates between them on every rotation, not using them at the same time. Also something that can help with the cds, have you tried using conviction/judgement?
You are playing swift reflux, I don't feel like your rotation should be just droping everything as fast as possible in the same time as a igniter sorc would do, you should have a constant rotation without downtimes.
Also, I'm not pretty sure about this one and actually never tried, but when people from Korea want to replicate the yearning set bonus, they go SA 3, ASD2, MSD2.
I think AoA Crit and Crit tripods still good enough to go with. I run judg/conv and quick recharges and it feels good imho. And those dds Crit for a lot and all the time with enough Crit rate hehe. I could see trading one ring into swift for just a bit more QoL of AS / MS and for CDR of the filler skills but that'd be the most I'd change the build. And never going into the under 30% mana buff is ok to keep the big DPS coming! Especially doing mechanics of raid bosses there's no point to force that second buff to come online.
Since you're hitting behind it, doesn't it do less damage because hit master isn't procing? Why don't u hit from the side since isn't that how hit master is supposed to work?
No, skills that don't have front or back attack modifiers apply hit master, you don't need to play at the bosses side to proc hit master
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ambush master/hitmaster/masterbrawler affect only skills that have the corresponding positional on the tooltip. In the case of Hitmaster it doesn't matter where you stand as long as your skills don't indicate a positional.
Another example is the "Instant hit" counter skill on scrapper, its frontal attack, so ambush master doesn't boost the damage even if you hit it from the back.
Maplestory music :)
=)