My best friend bought a 125 Cromwell last Year as a starter bike, it's pretty awesome. It's not as premium or well build as Honda's for a similar price, but the style is definitely great. Think bart underestimates how popular Brixi or any other 125s are over here. Brixton is super well known, with great dealer support. But I also live close-ish to austria, so this obviously skews my view
You say "Italian" as if it's a bonus or something good 😅 Not gonna lie, cheap bikes produced in Italy aren't really that great and usually run into a lot of issues. I'd much rather take a KTM from India or Honda from Thailand.
You’ve never mentioned Fantic, they do a line of retro scramblers, flat trackers, and rally bikes under the name “Caballero” I’ve got the 500 scrambler deluxe and it’s such a good looking bike. Definitely worth looking at Bart
Nice Investigation, though I knew all of these brands before haha (but not the ones you mentioned in Video one). Just a little Addition, the Brixton 500 costs almost exactly half the prize a new Bonneville or Street Twin costs here in Austria. Also Mash is much more versatile, they also have two 650s (and a sidecar). The interesting thing about those Eurobrands, manufacturing in China (there are actually a couple more like Bullitt and Mutt from your last video) is that most of their engines are older UJM-Engines. Like the 125s and 250s are basically all Suzuki GNs as well as the 400s. Therefore proven quality for being basically indestructible, they just make less hp/torque because of modern emissionlaws. The Mash 650 is also the Honda Dominator Engine, a legendary beast. The idea behind those brands is that riding a motorcycle in the EU requires a specific drivers license which not only takes at least 2 months (after Covid everybodys rushing for it so it gets even longer) and costs around 1500 dollars, but if you have a license for your car you can legally ride a 50cc and also 125s (in most countries) after just one day of training. Not trying to be Mr. Smartiepants here, just thought you might enjoy those Infos.
Couldn't agree more about the mass, new vs old. I wish Triumph would redo the TR5 Trophy, Slim and graceful, excellent proportions, even the Fonz had a Triumph!!!! I'd love a new Metisse though.
I have a Mash Falcone 125 in Belgium as an extra bike in my collection of ten bikes. I bought it for two reasons, one my godchild Carolynne want to drive a bike and second I wanted something different to drive on small roads which we have plenty in Vlaanderen (Flanders). It's not expensive and only uses 2.7L / 100km, needs a bit more maintenance because of the small air cooled engine but a service with oil and filter is only 75€ (euro) after 3000km. Top speed is 95km on the teller it's 102km, so it of by 7km. I did a trip of 200km and no problem, no sour bum or anything else, it's a good little bike.
Norton was bought by TVS of India just before the beginning of the pandemic, and so the brand might be posturing itself differently and this could be the reason the previously available bikes were taken off the website... it's possible those bikes may be discontinued.
I worked in Benelli once. You're showing the Leoncino 250. Not the 500. The 250 is more modern looking than the 500. The 500 closely resembles the Ducati Scrambler. There's also 2 variants of the 500. Standard & trail, the difference between the two is ground clearance. Standard comes with 17 inch wheel in the front while the trail sports a 19 inch. Standard uses rims, trail uses spokes. Other than that, it's all the same. Another story, back in 2015, Herald came to my country, they sent 2 prototype to test the market and see how people will respond to it. They brought in the classic and cafe 250s. Good bikes and we tested it for 2000kms, while riding the cafe 250 on a straight road, tucked in, max throttle, the plastics of the bar end side mirror couldn't handle it. IT BROKE OFF! BOTH MIRRORS! and we're maxing out the engine at 120kph at that time. Imagine the brittle plastic put on a faster bike. 😂 I will never forget my friend's face when it happened. We went back to look for the mirrors but it's gone. Glass is shattered to million pieces and the plastic looked like a bomb was strapped to it.
Norton just brought back their Commando 961, air-cooled pushrod 961cc twin. The V4 mentioned in the video appears to be available as both a modern fairing-clad sport bike, and a pseudo-retro naked with a modernized cafe racer aesthetic.
the 50cc Mash bike is a Moped here in the Netherlands, 45km/h would mean they're on a class on their own and have a yellow license plate and require the rider to have a AM drivers license and require the rider to have a helmet. Generally known as *Shifter/Manual mopeds* they share the same class as 50cc scooter,s and regular mopeds. (unlike 25km/h scooters and mopeds which also require an AM drivers license but have blue license plates and no helmet requirement) People are allowed to get their AM license starting from the ago of 16, So they can use something like an AM license to get experience in traffic and traffic signs before they can get their bigger licenses for things like motorcycle or for cars and trucks and what not, When they're 18 and up.
You left out the coolest Retro bikes of all. Janus Motorcycles made in Goshen Indiana. Check out they're Halcyon 450. A functional piece of handmade art .
I reached out to Herald and CCM this month and neither will import yet still. Such a drag. Like you said, there are a lot of us Yankees that can't find and want small commuters that aren't ugly like the Suzuki's or too small for tall folks like the Grom's.
Yes I’ve heard lots of Americans said they can’t get these smaller bikes anywhere in America which is bizarre because I’m sure there would be a huge market for these bikes.
You really do not want a Herald motorcycle, first thing you have to do with a new one is strip it and respray it, they come with free rust out of the box.
Glad how you wished! Not 500 but Bajaj of India has made it happen with a Triumph Speed 400 very recently and the early reviews are cool. I'm sure you heard of it already. Your wish almost came true
Does Ccm make dirt bikes too? Feel like I’ve heard of them. And for BluRoc that’s very interesting if they’re using a v twin there’s infinitely higher chances it’s actually in house designed or made somewhere other than China than a single or parallel twin
F.B Mondial my favourite brand ( and the reason why iv'e started french motovloging lol ) I actualy own a special version right now called HPS " Ubbiali " but only available at 999 exemplars worldwide. And i own an Pagani 300 as well, that i'll be using to pass my a 35 kw license this spring. Now the best bikes performance wise but definitly the best on style ^_^
The reason why you don`t see the classic bikes (Commando range) on the Norton site anymore is because they are no longer a current model, they are only making a limited run to fulfil outstanding orders. The Commando range was reported to be up for "re-engineering", possibly an updated engine for euro5-6 being liquid cooled and ohc etc, where the old engine would not meet requirements. So, i`m hoping as i suggested to them on their facebook page that they should follow Triumphs lead and develope an ohc liquid cooled unit that looks like the old air cooled engine, as Triumph have done with the Bonneville, again neccesary to meet upcoming euro5-6 requirements. The old classic Nortons and Triumphs did look and feel / sound good, but those old engines were just too outdated, so the more modern liquid cooled is the only way to go. God knows how Royal Enfield get away with their aircooled 650twin engine in the interceptor range?.
The Royal Enfield 650 Interceptor with fuel injection run his hot as Hades with a lean mixture just like all of the other fuel-injected air-cooled motorcycles that are still left they run excruciating Lee Hot because of the Euro 5 mandated lean Nash in the fuel mixture. A fuel injected Ural sidecar outfits as well as Harley's new big twin motor as well as the preceding twin cam motor are motors made to abide by ridiculous pollution regulations because morons drive cars. A little chinese-made 125 may be suitable for a 89 lb Oriental but not for regular people. And to up they are positively in adequate. And no rude comments!
i think you should make a part 3 for this list, there some of the brand that only exist in south east asia such as, cmc daytona 250 & bucaneer 250i, qjmotor srv250, ktns gp152 & ra2, gpx legend & gentleman and much more..you should check it out.
Great video! Bikes you should mention in the next one: Benelli Imperiale 400 and Fantic Motor "Caballero" (based on one of the most legendary enduro race bike ever made)
In India we have a booming market for sub 500cc retro modern bikes . We just have witnessed the rise of old brands jawa and yezdi motorcycles which are managed by Classic legends which is a subsidiary of Mahindra and Mahindra which produces SUVs and trucks. Check those out too . They have released many motorcycles in last few years.
I really like the bike in the thumbnail, it appears to be a 125cc. it would be really cool if that exact same bike could be had in a twin cylinder version. perhaps a 500 or 650cc.
yes its a 125, there's Brixton, Mash and orgal are basically the same motorcycle with some different components. they get all the frames and engines from China
Diggin' your content man, good stuff. Alot of fun looking at these awesome old school bikes, I got the serious itch to get one! Cheers! Oh, maybe more electric motorcycle stuff? That is ultimately the way forward for the industry and there are a lot of exciting things happening with them.
@@claynystrom1404 You're the guy that didn't want to give up his horse (they're for manly men) for the horseless carriage a hundred years ago. That's ok tho, the change is gonna happen with or without you, real talk. Sorry charlie.
For anyone browsing the comments after watching the amazing video on the MZ story (better than Ford V Ferrari imo) you can also consider having someone local to you make you a custom bike out of a kawasaki or something. At Least you have a reliable motor there that has a punch to it
The MASH FIFTY (50cc) or HANWAY RAW 50 (also 50cc) are actually Chinese Bikes and the 50cc are the Moped versions of Europe (as alternative for Scooters) in a Retro look. And they make 125cc and 250cc versions as well as "Full Motorcycle" and the engines are Honda Engines so far I know.
There's a definite niche for these smaller and mid-sized motorcycles. At seventy-two, I've downsized to a 400SM because of the lighter weight. The dealers are however getting top dollar 💰 for this model, including getting a rather humongous setup fee, putting me out the door at around $9,000. Just for me, the very light flywheel effect makes it less than an ideal street bike but is part of the reason that young guys like it as a sprinter...
Have you ever heard of Casal ? (i'm in the UK but i think they were a Switzerland or Austrian company) I was at a friends house in the 70's and i spotted an old bike under a plastic sheet, it was his dads old bike that wasn't working, it was only a 50cc and he sold it to me, my dad replaced a piston ring and got it running, it was my first ever bike and i loved it.
You forgot Mutt Motorcycles my guy! They are actually one of the only ones actually trying to sell here in the USA, also Janus Motorcycles right here in USA although they are not retro but I would call it Vintage, they have the Pioneer Motorcycle Look, amazing little motorcycles I've thought about getting one.
Whether 'Bluroc' is a good name or not depends on... what language you speak! Just so you know, there are plenty of English language brands that sound pretty awkward in other languages. But ya won't find a name that sounds great in _all_ languages, so you might as well please your home/target market. Having made that point: I'm going to guess they invented the name, assuming English speakers would pronounce it as a mashup of Blue and Rock.
Harley ........ introducing a 450 cafe racer? To whom would they build something like that? And to be honest, Harley doesn’t really carry a cafe racer in their genes. They tried in the 70’s with the XLCR, which failed, they tried with a 750 a couple of years ago which excactly was a major hit either.
@@kasperkjrsgaard1447 Harley Pan America proves HD is not just rooted in cruisers. I would not be surprised in the least if HD introduces something to compete head on with the retro classics like Triumph Bonneville and Royal Enfield Interceptor. All Harley has to do is turn the 883 into a single thumper and presto they will build entire new generation of loyal followers while destroying the competition. It would not take very much engineering to accomplish this.
It's too bad Harley Davidson doesn't make a single cylinder motorcycle as they used to. I'd like a small bike for around town use, about a 125-150 cc size.
afaik they are actually chinese, except norton obviously. All these small "garage boutique" brands work with chinese manufacturers. That is not to say quality is not there, its just i am a bit suspicious of this somewhat dishonest trend. That being said, the mash 400 is the most tempting of the lot.
So the advert for the Herald was obviously shot in the United Kingdom. What I can't figure out is how they got away with lighting a fire on the beach at 4:40. Come to think of it, how did they manage to get their motorbikes onto the beach? Motoring freedom does not exist here. Everything is illegal here and there are roadside cameras every 100 yards designed to milk the motorist of hard-earned income. Okay, I exaggerate, A LITTLE, BUT honestly, you Americans just don't realise or appreciate how much freedom you have. Support Ukraine and keep it.
Once again companies using a well "Respected" name to sell new bikes that have nothing to do with OG, such a shame. I think the secret to those bikes with the low capacity Chinese engines is to go for the "Entry" spec, you get a bike that does the same as all the others at the cheapest price so you will get a better return when you sell it on.
Calling yourself a motor company is indeed odd but at least they’re borrowing from Suzuki who themselves are borrowing from 1990’s Suzuki instead of the Chinese who are borrowing from 1975 Suzuki.
" Motor " refers to Motor vehicle in this case a motorcycle , not the Engine ( which Americans incorrectly call a Motor ) . If they had called themselves "The Herald Engine Company" you would have a point because they have the Internal combustion ENGINE made for them in China , but there is no such thing as an Internal combustion MOTOR !
Ppø thank you my man for a videos they're really cool I'm missing like you know thank you for the videos they're really cool and very informative it really sucks because 27 years ago I had to stop I had to give up running motorcycles due to degenerative eye disease that causes me to go blind the slowly so I stayed away from everything it was too painful for me to keep up with these things like that I lived in Bree's motorcycle but for whatever reasons I don't want to get into moment I started to look online and to motorcycles again I actually a friend told me he was writing it's only with a guy that had an Indian and I was like oh Jesus man that's some bike you know how old those bikes are man and he was like no it's brand new I said what are you talking about brand new it's an Indian I went online and I sprount your channel some other things and I was just amazing all these beepers the Renaissance of all these motorcycle companies all over the place and I'll tell you it's it's painful to watch my eyes water up I'm not watching it really but listening to it but yeah you know because I would love to be part of this Renaissance on those spring chicken but I I'm physically if I if I didn't have my eye problem might have no problem at all still writing yeah cars too anything with a motor since I was a little kid anyway thanks for the videos and the yeah they really great and they really cool to find out all these new things but it's also painful so apparently the joy of learning all the stuff is out pacing the sadness that you know I can't before out of it but you know you deal with what you got in front of you you know you can only play the cars that would felt out to you I'm not the person who's who's nasty or has a bed outlook on you know basically life while you know my my eyes problem well and other medical problems that happen as you get older you know I never let it get me down but yeah you know if you line if I said I didn't shut a couple of teas a few times since I've been looking to these motorcycle things but you know you grow from these things and you know I'd rather have you know all these cool videos and listen to the bikes being described and the technology that that's like alien compared to when I was still riding my last bike was a '79 lowrider Harley with a 1972 12-inch 1200 shovelhead in it I built it and it was a beautiful bike had a painted candy apple red with ghost flames all over it and yeah I went to town with that bike but yeah I mean talk about a throwback compared to when I'm hearing you know on these different motorcycle channels about all this cool stuff yeah0
All this talk about 125 who's he kidding unless you're a ninety-pound weakling in junior high school that bike is just about faster than a moped just if most of us try to sit on that bike it would probably break into
I have a Brixton 125 Felsberg and it's great, high quality, simplicity and a lot of fun
Wow that was fast
@@philipseiter5766 I bought mine new in 2019, but sold it a few month ago, I still have a second tank and a luggage rack laying around.
My best friend bought a 125 Cromwell last Year as a starter bike, it's pretty awesome. It's not as premium or well build as Honda's for a similar price, but the style is definitely great.
Think bart underestimates how popular Brixi or any other 125s are over here.
Brixton is super well known, with great dealer support. But I also live close-ish to austria, so this obviously skews my view
You say "Italian" as if it's a bonus or something good 😅
Not gonna lie, cheap bikes produced in Italy aren't really that great and usually run into a lot of issues. I'd much rather take a KTM from India or Honda from Thailand.
You’ve never mentioned Fantic, they do a line of retro scramblers, flat trackers, and rally bikes under the name “Caballero”
I’ve got the 500 scrambler deluxe and it’s such a good looking bike. Definitely worth looking at Bart
Always good to get a glimpse into the bizzaro world of obscure motorcycles.
Nice Investigation, though I knew all of these brands before haha (but not the ones you mentioned in Video one). Just a little Addition, the Brixton 500 costs almost exactly half the prize a new Bonneville or Street Twin costs here in Austria. Also Mash is much more versatile, they also have two 650s (and a sidecar). The interesting thing about those Eurobrands, manufacturing in China (there are actually a couple more like Bullitt and Mutt from your last video) is that most of their engines are older UJM-Engines. Like the 125s and 250s are basically all Suzuki GNs as well as the 400s. Therefore proven quality for being basically indestructible, they just make less hp/torque because of modern emissionlaws. The Mash 650 is also the Honda Dominator Engine, a legendary beast.
The idea behind those brands is that riding a motorcycle in the EU requires a specific drivers license which not only takes at least 2 months (after Covid everybodys rushing for it so it gets even longer) and costs around 1500 dollars, but if you have a license for your car you can legally ride a 50cc and also 125s (in most countries) after just one day of training.
Not trying to be Mr. Smartiepants here, just thought you might enjoy those Infos.
Correct the same in Belgium, luckily I am older so I can drive whatever I want.
Brilliant series of videos, Bart. Thank you.
And, FIVE gold stars for including CCM!
🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
Couldn't agree more about the mass, new vs old. I wish Triumph would redo the TR5 Trophy, Slim and graceful, excellent proportions, even the Fonz had a Triumph!!!! I'd love a new Metisse though.
Brilliant. Now there’s BSA!
I have a Mash Falcone 125 in Belgium as an extra bike in my collection of ten bikes. I bought it for two reasons, one my godchild Carolynne want to drive a bike and second I wanted something different to drive on small roads which we have plenty in Vlaanderen (Flanders). It's not expensive and only uses 2.7L / 100km, needs a bit more maintenance because of the small air cooled engine but a service with oil and filter is only 75€ (euro) after 3000km. Top speed is 95km on the teller it's 102km, so it of by 7km. I did a trip of 200km and no problem, no sour bum or anything else, it's a good little bike.
Norton was bought by TVS of India just before the beginning of the pandemic, and so the brand might be posturing itself differently and this could be the reason the previously available bikes were taken off the website... it's possible those bikes may be discontinued.
Constantly wishing there were more offerings of small affordable bikes here in the US. With character.
For real, Americans don't get it, they make fun of ppl for what they buy....strange stuff
I bought a panther in the 60s. A British 650cc single. 3 speed, could climb hills in 3rd. Super interesting bike.
Nice old sloper designed as a sidecar tug
I have been waiting for a video like that for a while. Thanks dude.
The h2 has 300hp. Which is definitely more than a grom. But it weighs more so it's hard to say what's faster
spec sheet warrior ass video
A couple of extra ones - keeway do a few 125s and the Hang Jiang 650 is the Chinese Ural
I worked in Benelli once. You're showing the Leoncino 250. Not the 500.
The 250 is more modern looking than the 500. The 500 closely resembles the Ducati Scrambler.
There's also 2 variants of the 500.
Standard & trail, the difference between the two is ground clearance. Standard comes with 17 inch wheel in the front while the trail sports a 19 inch.
Standard uses rims, trail uses spokes.
Other than that, it's all the same.
Another story, back in 2015, Herald came to my country, they sent 2 prototype to test the market and see how people will respond to it. They brought in the classic and cafe 250s. Good bikes and we tested it for 2000kms, while riding the cafe 250 on a straight road, tucked in, max throttle, the plastics of the bar end side mirror couldn't handle it. IT BROKE OFF! BOTH MIRRORS! and we're maxing out the engine at 120kph at that time. Imagine the brittle plastic put on a faster bike. 😂 I will never forget my friend's face when it happened. We went back to look for the mirrors but it's gone. Glass is shattered to million pieces and the plastic looked like a bomb was strapped to it.
Norton has brought out the new Commando now and oh boy do they look good
Norton just brought back their Commando 961, air-cooled pushrod 961cc twin. The V4 mentioned in the video appears to be available as both a modern fairing-clad sport bike, and a pseudo-retro naked with a modernized cafe racer aesthetic.
the 50cc Mash bike is a Moped here in the Netherlands,
45km/h would mean they're on a class on their own and have a yellow license plate and require the rider to have a AM drivers license and require the rider to have a helmet.
Generally known as *Shifter/Manual mopeds* they share the same class as 50cc scooter,s and regular mopeds.
(unlike 25km/h scooters and mopeds which also require an AM drivers license but have blue license plates and no helmet requirement)
People are allowed to get their AM license starting from the ago of 16, So they can use something like an AM license to get experience in traffic and traffic signs before they can get their bigger licenses for things like motorcycle or for cars and trucks and what not, When they're 18 and up.
that Mash bike is available in the US as the Genuine G400C
You left out the coolest Retro bikes of all. Janus Motorcycles made in Goshen Indiana. Check out they're Halcyon 450. A functional piece of handmade art .
I reached out to Herald and CCM this month and neither will import yet still. Such a drag. Like you said, there are a lot of us Yankees that can't find and want small commuters that aren't ugly like the Suzuki's or too small for tall folks like the Grom's.
Yes I’ve heard lots of Americans said they can’t get these smaller bikes anywhere in America which is bizarre because I’m sure there would be a huge market for these bikes.
You really do not want a Herald motorcycle, first thing you have to do with a new one is strip it and respray it, they come with free rust out of the box.
Glad how you wished! Not 500 but Bajaj of India has made it happen with a Triumph Speed 400 very recently and the early reviews are cool. I'm sure you heard of it already. Your wish almost came true
Does Ccm make dirt bikes too? Feel like I’ve heard of them. And for BluRoc that’s very interesting if they’re using a v twin there’s infinitely higher chances it’s actually in house designed or made somewhere other than China than a single or parallel twin
F.B Mondial my favourite brand ( and the reason why iv'e started french motovloging lol ) I actualy own a special version right now called HPS " Ubbiali " but only available at 999 exemplars worldwide.
And i own an Pagani 300 as well, that i'll be using to pass my a 35 kw license this spring. Now the best bikes performance wise but definitly the best on style ^_^
The reason why you don`t see the classic bikes (Commando range) on the Norton site anymore is because they are no longer a current model, they are only making a limited run to fulfil outstanding orders. The Commando range was reported to be up for "re-engineering", possibly an updated engine for euro5-6 being liquid cooled and ohc etc, where the old engine would not meet requirements. So, i`m hoping as i suggested to them on their facebook page that they should follow Triumphs lead and develope an ohc liquid cooled unit that looks like the old air cooled engine, as Triumph have done with the Bonneville, again neccesary to meet upcoming euro5-6 requirements. The old classic Nortons and Triumphs did look and feel / sound good, but those old engines were just too outdated, so the more modern liquid cooled is the only way to go. God knows how Royal Enfield get away with their aircooled 650twin engine in the interceptor range?.
The Royal Enfield 650 Interceptor with fuel injection run his hot as Hades with a lean mixture just like all of the other fuel-injected air-cooled motorcycles that are still left they run excruciating Lee Hot because of the Euro 5 mandated lean Nash in the fuel mixture. A fuel injected Ural sidecar outfits as well as Harley's new big twin motor as well as the preceding twin cam motor are motors made to abide by ridiculous pollution regulations because morons drive cars. A little chinese-made 125 may be suitable for a 89 lb Oriental but not for regular people. And to up they are positively in adequate. And no rude comments!
Finally i found my type of bikes!!!! I hate road looking bikes with road tires i like dirt looking tires like a mutt motorcycle etc
i think you should make a part 3 for this list, there some of the brand that only exist in south east asia such as, cmc daytona 250 & bucaneer 250i, qjmotor srv250, ktns gp152 & ra2, gpx legend & gentleman and much more..you should check it out.
Great video! Bikes you should mention in the next one: Benelli Imperiale 400 and Fantic Motor "Caballero" (based on one of the most legendary enduro race bike ever made)
In India we have a booming market for sub 500cc retro modern bikes . We just have witnessed the rise of old brands jawa and yezdi motorcycles which are managed by Classic legends which is a subsidiary of Mahindra and Mahindra which produces SUVs and trucks.
Check those out too .
They have released many motorcycles in last few years.
I really like the bike in the thumbnail, it appears to be a 125cc. it would be really cool if that exact same bike could be had in a twin cylinder version. perhaps a 500 or 650cc.
yes its a 125, there's Brixton, Mash and orgal are basically the same motorcycle with some different components. they get all the frames and engines from China
Bluroc could possibly be read as blue-rock, at least if you are nice to them 🙂
Just a small mistake. The first bike shown in the video is actually Leoncino 250, but you are talking about 500 (0:33). Those are different bikes.
I worked in Benelli, the one your showing is the Leoncino 250, not the 500
I had a TT 500 and it was a great bike I wish they would remake this model
Diggin' your content man, good stuff. Alot of fun looking at these awesome old school bikes, I got the serious itch to get one! Cheers! Oh, maybe more electric motorcycle stuff? That is ultimately the way forward for the industry and there are a lot of exciting things happening with them.
real men dont even talk electric/ have a granola bar instead
@@claynystrom1404 You're the guy that didn't want to give up his horse (they're for manly men) for the horseless carriage a hundred years ago. That's ok tho, the change is gonna happen with or without you, real talk. Sorry charlie.
Do you get the Fantic Caballero range over there? Great looking and capable machines.
Nice access and egress to a video😊 Hopefully more creators will take inspiration from you
What i find absolutely awesome about rhe Benelli is that it's the only bike worh a ....... Hood ornament. The tiny lion on the front fender LOL
It's a shame that Janus Motorcycle Co. wasn't mentioned. They make very nice motorcycle in pre WWI style.
Nice video, thanks!
For anyone browsing the comments after watching the amazing video on the MZ story (better than Ford V Ferrari imo) you can also consider having someone local to you make you a custom bike out of a kawasaki or something. At Least you have a reliable motor there that has a punch to it
The MASH FIFTY (50cc) or HANWAY RAW 50 (also 50cc) are actually Chinese Bikes and the 50cc are the Moped versions of Europe (as alternative for Scooters) in a Retro look. And they make 125cc and 250cc versions as well as "Full Motorcycle" and the engines are Honda Engines so far I know.
Try to check out Bristol Motorcycles. Their Bobber 700 and Classic 250/400 are good looking old triumph looks.
There's a definite niche for these smaller and mid-sized motorcycles. At seventy-two, I've downsized to a 400SM because of the lighter weight. The dealers are however getting top dollar 💰 for this model, including getting a rather humongous setup fee, putting me out the door at around $9,000.
Just for me, the very light flywheel effect makes it less than an ideal street bike but is part of the reason that young guys like it as a sprinter...
The mash 50cc has a little green cable to cut and then it goes 70km/h instead of 45.
Have you ever heard of Casal ? (i'm in the UK but i think they were a Switzerland or Austrian company) I was at a friends house in the 70's and i spotted an old bike under a plastic sheet, it was his dads old bike that wasn't working, it was only a 50cc and he sold it to me, my dad replaced a piston ring and got it running, it was my first ever bike and i loved it.
Casal was spanish.
I have a 2018 SWM Silver vase cm 70’s scrambler, assembled in Italy engine sourced from China. It’s very very good. Have a look at them.
The brixton crossfire is the svartpilen we have at home lol ~ from a husky owner
You need to check out Janus Motorcycles, built in Goshen, Indiana.
I own a Keeway 152 which is subbrand under Benelli. Minimal specs but very cheap price.
Surprised not seeing Mutt included
You forgot Mutt Motorcycles my guy! They are actually one of the only ones actually trying to sell here in the USA, also Janus Motorcycles right here in USA although they are not retro but I would call it Vintage, they have the Pioneer Motorcycle Look, amazing little motorcycles I've thought about getting one.
Hey! Totally agree about Mutt. I've talked about them in my other list videos on retro motorcycles
They are 2 other brands that I have seen on your videos, Avington & Brought (sorry for any scratch on names). Load of cash needed mind you. Guy
Brixton sells a 1200 now!
MondeeAhl (Mondial) and Pja-Jo (Piaggio)
Liquid cooling often means an oil cooler not a radiator
nice movie
Blue one ???
Yeah, high, think I would have kept the Bullet moniker.
So many bikes. So little time.
Take a look at Benelli Imperiale
Most retro bikes adopt the same look a the triumph bone wonder why that is.....
No mention of Royal Enfield then?
It’s pronounced Mon-dee-all fwiw, like the Ferrari. Do you happen to know what show that is at?
What about Jawa 300 CL - a very nice retro bike from India.
They are not real Jawas and use a Chinese engine, real Jawas are not made in India.
Another English Bike (Italian Engine) coming on to the market is "Mac"
Search --
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Whether 'Bluroc' is a good name or not depends on... what language you speak! Just so you know, there are plenty of English language brands that sound pretty awkward in other languages. But ya won't find a name that sounds great in _all_ languages, so you might as well please your home/target market. Having made that point: I'm going to guess they invented the name, assuming English speakers would pronounce it as a mashup of Blue and Rock.
Mond ee al. ps Hate the number (license) plate holder.
Norton eh? Never heard of 'em.
Amazing, beautiful designs. So, where is Harley Davidson in the all this ??? Why isn't Harley introducing a 450 Cafe Racer ?
Harley ........ introducing a 450 cafe racer?
To whom would they build something like that? And to be honest, Harley doesn’t really carry a cafe racer in their genes. They tried in the 70’s with the XLCR, which failed, they tried with a 750 a couple of years ago which excactly was a major hit either.
@@kasperkjrsgaard1447 Harley Pan America proves HD is not just rooted in cruisers. I would not be surprised in the least if HD introduces something to compete head on with the retro classics like Triumph Bonneville and Royal Enfield Interceptor. All Harley has to do is turn the 883 into a single thumper and presto they will build entire new generation of loyal followers while destroying the competition. It would not take very much engineering to accomplish this.
It's too bad Harley Davidson doesn't make a single cylinder motorcycle as they used to. I'd like a small bike for around town use, about a 125-150 cc size.
Bring back the Leggaro!
afaik they are actually chinese, except norton obviously. All these small "garage boutique" brands work with chinese manufacturers. That is not to say quality is not there, its just i am a bit suspicious of this somewhat dishonest trend. That being said, the mash 400 is the most tempting of the lot.
So the advert for the Herald was obviously shot in the United Kingdom. What I can't figure out is how they got away with lighting a fire on the beach at 4:40. Come to think of it, how did they manage to get their motorbikes onto the beach? Motoring freedom does not exist here. Everything is illegal here and there are roadside cameras every 100 yards designed to milk the motorist of hard-earned income. Okay, I exaggerate, A LITTLE, BUT honestly, you Americans just don't realise or appreciate how much freedom you have. Support Ukraine and keep it.
where are the Royal Enfields and jawas?
Once again companies using a well "Respected" name to sell new bikes that have nothing to do with OG, such a shame. I think the secret to those bikes with the low capacity Chinese engines is to go for the "Entry" spec, you get a bike that does the same as all the others at the cheapest price so you will get a better return when you sell it on.
It's not Mon-dial it's pronounced Mon-di-al...😉
I was thinking the same. The Mon-dial made me giggle.
Herald are crap, my mate had one and the speedo was wrong and the engine rpm kept fluctuating after 121 miles.
I think you should know that a manufacturer made a triumph herald it was a car! triumph bike & triumph car are not the same company
Calling yourself a motor company is indeed odd but at least they’re borrowing from Suzuki who themselves are borrowing from 1990’s Suzuki instead of the Chinese who are borrowing from 1975 Suzuki.
" Motor " refers to Motor vehicle in this case a motorcycle , not the Engine ( which Americans incorrectly
call a Motor ) .
If they had called themselves "The Herald Engine Company" you would have a point because they have the Internal
combustion ENGINE made for them in China , but there is no such thing as an Internal combustion MOTOR !
Divided by a common language ;)
Where the heck is Jawa?
Still waiting for Francis Barnett.
Interested in pm, Bart?
Man the Chinese motors have taken over havent they. Why can’t MV Agusta triples take over instead.
Ppø thank you my man for a videos they're really cool I'm missing like you know thank you for the videos they're really cool and very informative it really sucks because 27 years ago I had to stop I had to give up running motorcycles due to degenerative eye disease that causes me to go blind the slowly so I stayed away from everything it was too painful for me to keep up with these things like that I lived in Bree's motorcycle but for whatever reasons I don't want to get into moment I started to look online and to motorcycles again I actually a friend told me he was writing it's only with a guy that had an Indian and I was like oh Jesus man that's some bike you know how old those bikes are man and he was like no it's brand new I said what are you talking about brand new it's an Indian I went online and I sprount your channel some other things and I was just amazing all these beepers the Renaissance of all these motorcycle companies all over the place and I'll tell you it's it's painful to watch my eyes water up I'm not watching it really but listening to it but yeah you know because I would love to be part of this Renaissance on those spring chicken but I I'm physically if I if I didn't have my eye problem might have no problem at all still writing yeah cars too anything with a motor since I was a little kid anyway thanks for the videos and the yeah they really great and they really cool to find out all these new things but it's also painful so apparently the joy of learning all the stuff is out pacing the sadness that you know I can't before out of it but you know you deal with what you got in front of you you know you can only play the cars that would felt out to you I'm not the person who's who's nasty or has a bed outlook on you know basically life while you know my my eyes problem well and other medical problems that happen as you get older you know I never let it get me down but yeah you know if you line if I said I didn't shut a couple of teas a few times since I've been looking to these motorcycle things but you know you grow from these things and you know I'd rather have you know all these cool videos and listen to the bikes being described and the technology that that's like alien compared to when I was still riding my last bike was a '79 lowrider Harley with a 1972 12-inch 1200 shovelhead in it I built it and it was a beautiful bike had a painted candy apple red with ghost flames all over it and yeah I went to town with that bike but yeah I mean talk about a throwback compared to when I'm hearing you know on these different motorcycle channels about all this cool stuff yeah0
Benelli Imperiale 400
Where is fantic motorcycles?
Yes he forgot them, nice looking bikes. Deschouwer in Belgium is selling those.
All this talk about 125 who's he kidding unless you're a ninety-pound weakling in junior high school that bike is just about faster than a moped just if most of us try to sit on that bike it would probably break into
Regarding the CCM no blinkers tell me is that bike even legal it sure looks like a show only bike
The new Norton very expensive losers with Chinese engine such a sad thing
@@frankmarkovcijr5459 You must be seriously overweight.
@3:50 they source their engines from china with a clone Suzuki engine not an original.
Apart from Norton & CCM [expensive] the rest are just cheap low powered crappy Chinese bikes with a classy sounding name.
Narrator doesn’t know a lot about bikes...😬
Eff Beh mohndeeahl.
I wouldn't buy a Chinese-made motorcycle.
Chinese trash.
I got a Brixton with steel shavings in the engine and a leaking fork.
You said it China 👎
Mon dee al thats how you pronounce it