I think it's a terrible shame the organizers didn't stick to production car requirement. Was looking forwards to a kind of return to the 90's look to Le Mans.
Development costs on a production model are too high, in addition to making the car competitive on the track they also have to design it to meet emissions and road safety requirements
When this started I though we would see hypercars from Ferrari, Porsche, Bugatti, Aston Martin, even maybe a Koenigsegg... I'm a little upset since they released the oficial rules change, but still I think this could be fun to watch
LMH was never gonna be moving away from prototypes. They'd instantly lose all the privately owned teams, seeing as they would have to develop a brand new car on their own, when in reality, you can take a 2020 LMP1 car and, with some modifications, run it in LMH. The I'm pretty sure that the prototype aspect is the only thing that lures teams in because you don't have to develop a set amount of cars, which means less development cost, so they can actually stick to the budget cap. The WEC 2021 season is probably still gonna be won by Toyota with their hybrid, but at least they're not the ONLY ones on the grid in the LMH category.
yes, this is why Formula 1 is shit, and has been shit for almost 2 decades. I lost interest in that series made only to please someone and not for competition and real sport. All for false drama and intrigue, cockblocking any real technological progress and inventivity
@@roberts.wilson1848 Is engineering a sport? You can't have it both ways. You either make it a close competition for drivers or you allow engineers to compete and you end up with very big differences between cars. The technological aspect of F1 is romanticized way too much. Most of the money is spent on aerodynamics and tuning a 1000 horsepower hybrid engine, neither of which has any real road relevance, especially the aerodynamics.
I still don’t know how I feel about this. From a competition standpoint, this is great and has a lot of potential, but this is really just glorified lmp1 balance changes. The cars look more or less the same, which makes sense from an aerodynamic standpoint, but as someone who’s sick of the top level endurance racers just looking like boxes (coming from someone who loves the 2016 Porsche), this is a tragedy. I adore the track day hypercars that Mclaren and Ferrari release, and ever since I saw the P1 GTR and FXXK, I would imagine what it would be like to have those cars at Le Mans (but a bit more hardcore bc ik they’re watered down a bit so random rich people can drive them), decked out in awesome customer liveries going head to head for multiple hours. I would even try to recreate that in games, which actually worked well and made something like that look somewhat feasible. And then they go and announce this, which is literally what I was dreaming about (or so I thought), and I get super hype, especially with Aston Martin talking about taking the Valkyrie to Le Mans, but not only did that not happen, but the cars are just slower versions of what we have now. It’s not even the category itself I’m upset with, it’s the name and advertising. These are definitely not hypercars. I was holding on to some hope bc I was under the impression that you needed road going models, so maybe it was 90’s GT1 and I was being pessimistic, but nope. Again, this is the smart thing to do, but damn do I hate how they originally portrayed it. Back to video games and formula 1 until Audi and Porsche join, sorry for the rant Edit: A like as compensation
Aero freedom was granted and rightly so There is a major difference which comes with cutting costs by adding more min weight hence no durable parts required FIA and ACO reacted in time before WEC would go down the drain like DTM If you look closely its the cockpit windshield area and the fin behind it which is the only major difference between the road going hypercars of LMH category (which are absolutely beautiful IMO) and the LMH cars running on the track. Just enjoy the competition because Sportscar racing should be gaining more popularity in the coming years
@@sohammhatre Fair enough, I get your point, it’s just I thought they were going to be a bit more like hypercars originally meant for the road, but those cars were never meant for competition, so basing your race car off of a concept that isn’t optimal for racing isn’t the best option, which is understandable. But that does make me wonder why in the GT1 class the cars looked more like if road original hypercars were GT cars, I want to say it was because there have been innovations that change what’s optimal, but the Toyota GT-One exists so I’m not sure. But yeah I’m happy the WEC’s still here and will enjoy the hopefully close racing
@@nextyear523 well look at gt1. Even though that's what everyone seems to want right now. It failed because they started making road cars look alike that were never designed for the road in the first place. The Valkyrie was the only road going hypercar that would've been competitive against the current crop of lmh and lmdh. I do like the Gr super sport road car though. looks very attractive
@@raykreiger4123 Well I think the big thing about GT1 was that it was too expensive, not really because they were just road car look alikes, but that may be part of why it was so expensive. But surely they can learn from mistakes of the past, and/or take a page out of GT3’s book. Just take existing hypercars, give them Mclaren’s GTR treatment, put a cost cap, and it could be fine (obviously it’s much more complicated but that uses the least words). I’m not knowledgeable enough about running a team at the top of endurance racing, but I really think a competition ready Huayra R (if that’s actually a thing I heard a rumor about that but idk), or Senna GTR shouldn’t be as hard to run during a season, at least for manufacturers. And considering they managed to make the GT-One be close to equal with cars like the CLK, I think cars like the Bolide and FXXK can be ran together if balanced properly. They’ve sorta made the cars already, just make them properly race ready. And yea some do have hybrid systems and some don’t, but the ACO can do what they’re doing with that now to balance it out. But I think the big thing that’d help it is the cost cap and customer entries. I think if Bykolkes can create their own LMH/LMDh, they can just grab two Valkyrie AMRs. They could even include last gen’s hyper track cars like the P1 and Vulcan, which could be bought as a discount, though that could cause its own balance problems and is a tangent of its own. Sry this is so long but I’ve had a lot to say about this for years, I think the GR Super Sport is cool too tho
@@nextyear523 , LMDH is quite a cost effective way of getting into the top class of WEC. I don't think they need to do any more in that regard and the BOP is in place as well
Another great video, keep it up! Just to clarify, you'll be able to run the LMH cars in IMSA too. According to Glickenhaus, this will happen someway or another. As you say, the regs are a product of the economy we live in. ACO has done the best they can do, to attract OEMs, even though hardcore tech freaks will find it a shame, that we're going backwards in form of performance and technology. But at least we've more interesting races to look forward too, I'm actually excited about TOYOTA vs Glickenhaus this year.
I dont really want to see a DPi car winning at LeMans. The original vision of Hypercar was more exciting to me. This watered down compromise will still end up being sillhouette racing, rather than any link to road cars.
Reality is, the average road car is a partsbin silhouette car built by magna, ZF, Bosch, Delphi, Aisin, and other auto suppliers, why do you think your race series should be any different?
Motorsport has always been an engineering & management competition. As soon as BoP comes into play, it shifts from a sport towards a show. To cut costs, the should to three things: 1. Cap cost drivers such as the overall budget, headcount, expenses for suppliers, testing time or wind tunnel hours. 2. Standardized parts that aren't differentiators from a marketing standpoint anyways like monocoque, gearbox, fuel tank and so on. 3. Rules, that do not require overly complex systems such as the hybrid systems. Or, if the manufactureres think that hybrid systems are such a vital part to modern, "green" motorsport, it should at least be as simplistic as possible.
Having a lot of manufacturers involved with different approaches to racing sounds good to me! BoP has been working in LMGTE Pro. And now IMSA and WEC cars can both run in each other's categories! What's not to like about this?! Time will tell but you got to start somewhere!
Why oh why do they not just let the Valkyrie, sc4, bolide, Project 1 race with a simple weight cap and fuel usage limit. The cars are there. Already developed. How difficult do they need to make it???
I would like to see the technical progress and fast cars .. Hyperion H2 Car with 1600 km range vs Porsche 919 Hybrid Evo vs. Audi TDI Hybrid or so .. Different classes .. The technical truth .. 2021 . 😁❤️✌️
more than 190 likes anbd 0 dislikes seems like a good ratio 🙌 this video was very informative, keep up the good work and btw you don't have the subscribers you desserve you should have a lot more 😊
Man just imagine all these manufacturers at Le Mans Mazda dPi Acura dPi Cadillac dPi Toyota- Hybrid Porsche- hybrid Audi- Hybrid Ford- Hypercar Aston Martin- Hypercar McLaren- Hypercar Bugatti and Koenigsegg are the ones that are unknown Alpine Glickenhause
@@Zero.X And by the looks of things nor will McLaren, as they will focus on Formula E and Indycar instead. Alpine has only commited for 2021, Ford has not said anything official yet, and I'm not entirely sure why Bugatti and Koenigsseg would join
@@Ofitus21 I think Ford will join because they have multiple working prototypes. I find it odd McLaren wants to be in Formula E since they only have hybrids and no electric cars
For me Acura rebranded as Honda to global championships (Acura is Honda's american brand).But I understand your idea,for me is a great adittion to sportscar racing,make compete these cars in Le Mans
Thank you very much for this clear and comprehensive overview. I think it is the right choice that LM is evolving and utilizing new concepts. Will this concept be more successful or attractive - history will tell ... One thing is certain I am much looking forward to see Porsche / Audi / Bugatti / Peugeot ... returning to the Sarthe with new regulations giving Endurance Racing a fresh start. Thanks Mate!
Very informative thank you, Great video. I thought it would only be Road HyperCars. When you try to please everyone you please no One I Think this Will end with only being lmdh cars. That Can also be interesting racing but pure Road hypercars would have been better
I've read a lot of comments, and I genuinely don't understand. I see a lot of people saying "why not enlist actual hypercars from brands that make them???" - Because they wouldn't last 6 hours, let alone 24. The cars would need extreme modifications (as seen in GTE cars) to be able to make it through the race, and even then, it's not guaranteed. "they should require that they produce versions of the car for commercial use!" - That would most likely work out terribly. It worked well in the 90's because of the "simple" cars they had back then, but wouldn't be feasible for this caliber. Outside of just ending up being extremely expensive, they would also have to cut R&D costs for the Le Mans car itself, seeing as they would have to include the R&D for the road legal version into their budget. That leaves a lot to be desired. Also, let's not talk about private teams in LMH, who wouldn't be able to do it either way because they're not, y'know, car companies. "it feels like all of these compromises are leaving a ton to be desired" - Because there is. There's not enough teams that are willing to do hybrid systems because they're insanely expensive, even with pre-existing layouts. You still have to make it work somehow, and make it last as well. Toyota is the only Hybrid car out there right now, which means that they haven't been able to just leave out any hybrid regulations and tailor the rules to purely combustion powered cars. They're had to think of both sides so the Toyotas didn't fall behind, but didn't win by the insane margins they have in previous years. TL;DR - Everything has been done for a reason, and hopefully more factory teams can return to WEC to save LMH.
I think we all want more manufacturers back in the top category. I understand everything you say here, but i remain sceptical because of the balance of performance. To me it feels as if the best engineers are punished because their car is too fast. This just doesn't makes sense to me. (Although at least the cars have to be reliable for 24 hours, so the engineers still have to do a proper job.)
In the end I think this set of changes is going to be great for WEC. While it might stifle innovation in some areas, it is more important to make the top class more accessible and attractive for new teams. This current WEC season hasn't been too exciting in the top class thus far and I don't think this year's Le Mans race is going to much different. But that's quite forgivable with the regulations only having solidified quite recently and the general state of the world right now. I for one can't wait for the 2022 season!
0:33 And in 2017 previously,before the LMH idea,ACO wanted more cars to try to no convert LMP1 in only Toyota class (with CLM,the last non-hybrid car in 2017).Finally with Porsche retirement,ACO was created new rules for non-hybrid cars for 2018-19 season,reason for exist cars like Rebellion R13,Ginetta G60-LT-P1 and BR Engineering BR1 (not be confused with BR01,a LMP2 car from 2016) Before this,between 2014 and 2016.ACO was divided LMP1 in 2 subclasses,LMP1-H (focused in manufacturers and they are hybrid cars) and LMP1-L (mostly private teams with low resources and with non-hybrid cars).The two classes were merger back to an only LMP1 because Audi was retired from LMP1-H and Rebellion was retired from LMP1-L
Uh no.My bad,LMP1-H and LMP1-L as separates classes were used only in 2014.But essencially until 2016,they were still existed as a LMP1 Manufacturers' Trophy (H) and LMP1 Teams' Trophy (L).Teams one were canceled in 2017 because ByKolles (CLM) was alone,and in 2018 a New World Championship for LMP1 Teams were introduced modifying the old manufacturer format,now championship was only for teams (manufacturers and privateer ones) until 2019-20
They have got more teams on the grid so that's a positive thing. Also it's good to try new things out otherwise you never learn anything. They can refine the rules of the next few years keep the best bits and removing things that don't work and hopefully get some decent racing
I wasn't expecting anything better coming from a federation who let a category with one single manufacturer racing alone, winning for 3 years against no one.
European Prototype racing imploded when they killed Group C. IMSA kept Prototype racing on life support ever since then. Hybrids should be limited to a unit integrated in the gearbox RWD only with either a spec built or build to spec unit. Battery storage should be a spec supplied unit only. Hybrids are merely a stepping stone from IC to electric power for manufacturers so they won't have a long term high volume production life as the economics will dictate. That keeps costs lower overall and satisfies the temporary life of hi volume hybrids to the OEM's.
Cutting the P2's down is a bummer. It has been the most popular and competitive class since 2016. I think a lot of classes at Lemans is good but having more cars is better. The circuit is huge and 67 cars is not enough. I think 200 cars is the way to go! hahaha!
This was probably the most depressing video I have seen on car racing. Listening to the explanations (you did an excellent job BTW. Much better and in depth but also more simple to understand than most other youtubers on this subject) I really miss the old super expensive LMP1 cars. These new category regulations are far too complicated and too blurred with each other to be distinctive which is why we USED to love the WEC Lemans racing. It doesn't translate to the fans watching. It was a huge letdown when they started going away from the streetcar/supercar/hypercar theme and now its just a slower watered down version of the LMP class. I used to take off work for the 24 hour Lemans religiously for years.... this year... I didn't even know it was on until I saw some TH-cam videos popping up in my views. I have no interest in watching it anymore and that is friggin sad😢
I really just wanted to see cars like the LaFerrari, P1, and 918 turn into full race cars. Why not have Mercedes develop a standardized Hybrid system if they even want to keep Hybrid technology? Along with a standardized ECU, it will saved R&D costs substantially.
I'd much rather see which manufacturer is the best with no restrictions. Isn't that what it's all about. If one manufacturer is in front for 24hrs then they are simply the best.
I don't know in profund but Hypercar maybe will be a 2-3 years class. Althought Toyota and Peugeot are in with LMH in short time they will change to Lmdh (a late standard prototype IMSA;ACO.FIA) cars more cheap. We don't know the performance of this LMH cars.
It should be like this: LMH: you can build your racecar from scratch, but then you have to produce a number of road going cars with only a few differences. LMDH: you can use a standard chassis (designed to accommodate AWD) and put your heavily modified mass production engine and your bodywork on it, without having to produce a road going version. Minimum weight and maximum fuel flow equal for all. Freedom in design of the electric part of the power unit, with just a limit on the capacity of the battery. LMH is too expensive for you? Just build an LMDH, instead.
I can't say I'm big fan of all these different cars mixing up because it seems that it is done haphazardly and it lacks clear vision for the future. It is like experimental class too see what sticks then start building around it which is stupid approach in my opinion meanwhile GTE is hurting just as badly. It really makes you think what is ACO thinking. I really think they should have bit the bullet and develop LMH slowly instead of trying to blow it up with everything.
@@Fysmodul6 Yeah but better have one or two slow years and take that time to attract teams/manufacturers that will commit to years ahead instead of getting teams in that might get disappointed and pulled out because class is not going in direction they like. Then there is an issue of how do you even start to BoP this fairly ? Aston pulled out because they won't be able to sell their racing cars to other teams when using LMDH is just cheaper option so it begs the question why would even aston martin use their car. So from that stand point it is not appealing and selling cars and making them is great way to cut down the costs for everyone. If BoP works that means in year or of two we are looking at all LMDH and if that is the case why even have LMH anyway. It is messy situation no matter how you look at it.
Yes, but they had a golden opportunity to create convergence this year. Aston pulled out because of Aston being Aston. Anyway I look forward to the racing this year!
Hypercar is just fine. lmh and lmdh will coexist just like the 10 year group c/GTP rule set. You’ll be able to take your chassis around the world, and race for the win. No GT3 at Le Mans and all will be done to push manufacturers towards the top class. It’s a prototype future, and it’s gonna be fantastic.
Well minimal restrictions don't work though. One team will dominate for two seasons then everyone else will quit because they aren't winning enough or it gets to expensive.
LMH? LMDh? Hybrid? Prototype? Street Legal? RWD? AWD? BoP? How did ACO and FIA develop these regulations from the previous LMP1? Which factors played a role in creating this rule book? And why will there be so many different cars in the Le Mans top category? When this started they though it would see hyper cars from Ferrari, Porsche, Bugatti, Aston Martin, even maybe a Koenigsegg... I'm a little upset since they released the official rules change, but still I think this could be fun to watch
Maybe it's not ideal but if it brings a good field of cars together I'm all for it, they don't have to be equal across classes to have good racing in a 24 hour event.
I don't like the balancing aspect because the best car should win and not the one who got punished the less, especially in the "prototype" class. P.s I'm from Germany so please excuse my language hope you understand
if they wanted real exciting racing, just get rid of all regulations. let them build the craziest, fastest cars, regulations be damned and see who comes out on top.
I was looking forward to the new LMH class given my understanding was that the class would be based on homologated hyper cars. What do we have now? A bunch of LMP2 cars with more horsepower and worse ugly like DPI cars. I guess I will stick with gt3 racing
I'm only upset with the styling choice for the GR010. When you thinj about it, the lmp platform is the only way forward for the top class at le Mans, cars like the senna, 918, wtc would never be able to produce any where near the downforce of an lmp style chassis even if they were race modified. My gripe as I said earlier was the styling of the GR010. Toyota could of at least grafted in some recognizable, Toyota DNA in the front facia. Much like Mazda did with the DPi. Which is why I think DPi cars are not only the most interesting and beautiful prototypes to look at, but also hear with the freedom of engine choices. We all wanted these new LMH race cars to at least carry some design langauge from their respective manufacturers. But the GR010 just looks like a watered down TS050.
@@falcongamer58 The info we got from SRO definitely lead us to believe that those 'Hypercars' we revere so much were going to be a base for these LMH, it was misleading. In fact I don't even know what 'hypercar' is right now. If you look at AM's valkyrie, you can almost predict how it's racing model would of probably end up looking like an LMP. But of course, Toyota and the other manufacturers planning to compete in this new LMH class have the right to seek performance, just like how the fake GT1 cars; the TS020, Mercedes CLK GTR and 911 GT1 were created by exploiting loopholes in the regulations at the time. So too will they continue to now, and in the future. Manufacturers will seek the bare minimum exceptable formula for road and race car conversions and achieve the best possible performace the guidlines will allow them to. Tbh they'd be well within their rights to do so. Wining races should be their goal after all. Not sattisfying my pseudo GT1 revival fantasies. Deep down inside I'm fine with that, just as long as this new LMH formula provides, teams, manufacturers and most of all good competitive racing. I stil think recognizable styling for the race cars LMP or not, will only do good for the brand. Looking forward to DPi/LMDH in the future 👌
Hyper slow cars. Because they are slower than current LMP2, they have to dumb down LMP2 and GT. Yesterday the DPi were 3 seconds quicker than the LMP2, so they should be 5 seconds quicker at Le Mans. I Don't understand why the DPi need to be Hybrid to even slower that they are now. For me is like replacing current F1 engines with indycar or F2 engines.
We haven't even seen a single Hypercar racing, how do you already know how fast they are? Those were just target times, they will surely get quicker over the next few years just as LMP1 did.
I'm not so sure the manufacturers are really focused on electrification of their drive trains. I think they will be happy to be able to slap "Hybrid" on the side for the current tranche of road car marketing. But they know that EVs are a dead end tech and that they need to look beyond that, so any kind of development will be rummaging through parts bins. Make do and mend.
purposeful de-tuning and "leveling" of the playing field will destroy any reason to innovate. honestly this does not sound like a good idea at all, but i probably couldnt do any better if I was in their scenario.
Yes, yes, and yes . Open the field up. Get Ferrari and everyone else BACK at LeMans. Lets make LeMans MEAN something again. This is really good for racing !
Electrification as it is being pushed not by trend or by technical advantages compared to ICs but by political decisions, is certain to kill-off primarily F1 and possibly LeMans, although the latter just might get away because it is easier to adapt.
I hope these cars won't be too similar to road cars, this would be boring. LMP1 was great because it was cutting-edge technology on a level comparable even to F1. Now they aim at average racing just to be an advertising platform, meh.
Why not cancel LNP1 and make LMP2 the top class? Variety is good, and expensive "steamrollers" from Audi, Porsche, etc. is boring. The last couple of wins by Toyota were a foregone conclusion. We need competition.
@@mariop8101 Yeah but LMP2 is not what a top class is supposed to be. It's for privateers not manufacturers. Also the Hypercars will get quicker over the next few years just as LMP1 did, no reason to worry.
the all electric category time is now. the race is 24 hrs..... to test cars. when the race was created a long long time ago cars were new, it mattered who won,reliability was an issue.. and now electric cars are new and the future. range,reliability and charge times are the new issues,plus lap times. the stock category would be great..btw the tesla model s is quicker than a 3 million dollar bugatti super car.
I think the Americans got it right. Standardised mechanics the manufacturers can put their own bodywork on. Technical innovation is probably my favorite part of racing and I realise that a standardised chasis kills a lot of innovation. But if the alternative is Balance of Performance then it has to be this way. Because FUCK BoP. BoP ruins everything, it's like you have a sprint race between human runners but the distance they're running gets altered in such a way that everybody arrives at the finish line at the exact same moment, murdering any sort of actual competition.
I think we could get really of both standardized parts and BoP. People say one team will dominate and costs will drive others away, but this simple formula worked very well for about 100 years of :Le Mans. What drove costs up was the hybrid system. They split LMP1 into hybrid, which was mandatory for factory teams like Toyota, and non hybrid for smaller teams like ByKolles. Then smaller teams couldn't compete and Toyota was the only LMP1 hybrid left. Just get back to group C regulations with modern safety. There was no shortage of competition in the group C days.
I don't know how I feel about what I just heard. We need regulatins that allows for engineering innovation, and progress to higher speeds. This is what auto racing is for. About all I can say for this is "it's the times we live in."
And I would add that Hybrids have a key role towards Zero Emissions, as a way to reduce CO2 and other emissions. In particular from a LCA (life cycle assessment) perspective and WTW (well to wheel) calculations. The development of Renewable energy and adequate charging networks will be a reality, but even 10 years from now this will not be enough for a 100% BEV car park. So more sophisticated hybrid technology should be encouraged, and motorsports should be a test bed for its development. It doesn’t make sense to pursue Zero Emissions for society and Motorsports going in opposite direction.
BOP is and will always be stupid and boring. Especially when there is already a budget cap in place, why bother trying to make a better car when it gets balanced to shit anyway?
they should've just added a budget cap and thats it. all these BoP rules just make it more complicated for spectators and drivers alike. Trying to please everyone wont work out b/c the people complaining either will make shit cars or just not do it.
I'm a "more the merrier" and "run what ya brung" kind of old school fan. I hope they figure it out. I like sports cars because they don't generally kiss Ferrari butt like F1. Their 1st question is always: "How does this affect Ferrari?" Who cares? Let them figure it out like everybody else.
Sadly that the Hypercars are downgrated because of DPI Rip off called LMDH. I would lile to see "Real" Hyperrace cars whit 800-1000PS and not just 680ps. Bit the worse thing on LMDH is that Riley Multimatic is still in and not replaced by a Manufactoret who can develop a real race car.
It appears to be a Nissan branded DeltaWing. I'm no good with IMSA and other sports cars, so I could well be wrong, but that's the first thing that comes to mind.
Nissan ZEOD RC,was run in Garage 56 class in 2014 24 Hours of Le Mans,was designed by Ben Bowlby (I hope wrote his surname well),he was the original Deltawing designer.But finally was still considered copy of original model
Just put cars we can buy in lemans! Forget all this stupid classes with no bearing on road cars. Nothing makes it better to watch knowing, you can own that car. BOP to a minimum. Give them a kj limit on fuel/energy and leave it. May the best manufacturer win.
I think it's a terrible shame the organizers didn't stick to production car requirement. Was looking forwards to a kind of return to the 90's look to Le Mans.
Yes sad!
to be fair
90's le mans had prototypes as well
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Yep, good point.
I think there wasn’t enough interest so they had to broaden the entry requirements.
Development costs on a production model are too high, in addition to making the car competitive on the track they also have to design it to meet emissions and road safety requirements
Great video. Tou gave a lot of depth and context to the new regs that i found missing from lots of other content creators
Thanks! Glad you liked it
When this started I though we would see hypercars from Ferrari, Porsche, Bugatti, Aston Martin, even maybe a Koenigsegg... I'm a little upset since they released the oficial rules change, but still I think this could be fun to watch
My thoughts exactly, I really thought this was going to be something away from prototype racing.
LMH was never gonna be moving away from prototypes. They'd instantly lose all the privately owned teams, seeing as they would have to develop a brand new car on their own, when in reality, you can take a 2020 LMP1 car and, with some modifications, run it in LMH. The I'm pretty sure that the prototype aspect is the only thing that lures teams in because you don't have to develop a set amount of cars, which means less development cost, so they can actually stick to the budget cap. The WEC 2021 season is probably still gonna be won by Toyota with their hybrid, but at least they're not the ONLY ones on the grid in the LMH category.
all these brands except koenig and bugatti make hypercars now
This sounds like trying to please everybody which results in unsatisfaction on all sides
Jackpot Mr Schmitd
IKR
yes, this is why Formula 1 is shit, and has been shit for almost 2 decades.
I lost interest in that series made only to please someone and not for competition and real sport. All for false drama and intrigue, cockblocking any real technological progress and inventivity
@@roberts.wilson1848 Is engineering a sport? You can't have it both ways. You either make it a close competition for drivers or you allow engineers to compete and you end up with very big differences between cars. The technological aspect of F1 is romanticized way too much. Most of the money is spent on aerodynamics and tuning a 1000 horsepower hybrid engine, neither of which has any real road relevance, especially the aerodynamics.
Aged like milk
I'd prefer just having homologated hypercars, these regulations blur the distinction between LMP1 and LMP2.
Exactly
Ya I don't like how it's going and it hasn't even started yet. Lol
Yas
More coverage of WEC and IMSA please
There are no channels covering news, updates, technical stuff etc
Will keep that in mind
@@BSport320 , thank you mate!
I still don’t know how I feel about this. From a competition standpoint, this is great and has a lot of potential, but this is really just glorified lmp1 balance changes. The cars look more or less the same, which makes sense from an aerodynamic standpoint, but as someone who’s sick of the top level endurance racers just looking like boxes (coming from someone who loves the 2016 Porsche), this is a tragedy. I adore the track day hypercars that Mclaren and Ferrari release, and ever since I saw the P1 GTR and FXXK, I would imagine what it would be like to have those cars at Le Mans (but a bit more hardcore bc ik they’re watered down a bit so random rich people can drive them), decked out in awesome customer liveries going head to head for multiple hours. I would even try to recreate that in games, which actually worked well and made something like that look somewhat feasible. And then they go and announce this, which is literally what I was dreaming about (or so I thought), and I get super hype, especially with Aston Martin talking about taking the Valkyrie to Le Mans, but not only did that not happen, but the cars are just slower versions of what we have now. It’s not even the category itself I’m upset with, it’s the name and advertising. These are definitely not hypercars. I was holding on to some hope bc I was under the impression that you needed road going models, so maybe it was 90’s GT1 and I was being pessimistic, but nope. Again, this is the smart thing to do, but damn do I hate how they originally portrayed it. Back to video games and formula 1 until Audi and Porsche join, sorry for the rant
Edit: A like as compensation
Aero freedom was granted and rightly so
There is a major difference which comes with cutting costs by adding more min weight hence no durable parts required
FIA and ACO reacted in time before WEC would go down the drain like DTM
If you look closely its the cockpit windshield area and the fin behind it which is the only major difference between the road going hypercars of LMH category (which are absolutely beautiful IMO) and the LMH cars running on the track.
Just enjoy the competition because Sportscar racing should be gaining more popularity in the coming years
@@sohammhatre Fair enough, I get your point, it’s just I thought they were going to be a bit more like hypercars originally meant for the road, but those cars were never meant for competition, so basing your race car off of a concept that isn’t optimal for racing isn’t the best option, which is understandable. But that does make me wonder why in the GT1 class the cars looked more like if road original hypercars were GT cars, I want to say it was because there have been innovations that change what’s optimal, but the Toyota GT-One exists so I’m not sure. But yeah I’m happy the WEC’s still here and will enjoy the hopefully close racing
@@nextyear523 well look at gt1. Even though that's what everyone seems to want right now. It failed because they started making road cars look alike that were never designed for the road in the first place. The Valkyrie was the only road going hypercar that would've been competitive against the current crop of lmh and lmdh. I do like the Gr super sport road car though. looks very attractive
@@raykreiger4123 Well I think the big thing about GT1 was that it was too expensive, not really because they were just road car look alikes, but that may be part of why it was so expensive. But surely they can learn from mistakes of the past, and/or take a page out of GT3’s book. Just take existing hypercars, give them Mclaren’s GTR treatment, put a cost cap, and it could be fine (obviously it’s much more complicated but that uses the least words). I’m not knowledgeable enough about running a team at the top of endurance racing, but I really think a competition ready Huayra R (if that’s actually a thing I heard a rumor about that but idk), or Senna GTR shouldn’t be as hard to run during a season, at least for manufacturers. And considering they managed to make the GT-One be close to equal with cars like the CLK, I think cars like the Bolide and FXXK can be ran together if balanced properly. They’ve sorta made the cars already, just make them properly race ready. And yea some do have hybrid systems and some don’t, but the ACO can do what they’re doing with that now to balance it out. But I think the big thing that’d help it is the cost cap and customer entries. I think if Bykolkes can create their own LMH/LMDh, they can just grab two Valkyrie AMRs. They could even include last gen’s hyper track cars like the P1 and Vulcan, which could be bought as a discount, though that could cause its own balance problems and is a tangent of its own. Sry this is so long but I’ve had a lot to say about this for years, I think the GR Super Sport is cool too tho
@@nextyear523 , LMDH is quite a cost effective way of getting into the top class of WEC. I don't think they need to do any more in that regard and the BOP is in place as well
Another great video, keep it up! Just to clarify, you'll be able to run the LMH cars in IMSA too. According to Glickenhaus, this will happen someway or another. As you say, the regs are a product of the economy we live in. ACO has done the best they can do, to attract OEMs, even though hardcore tech freaks will find it a shame, that we're going backwards in form of performance and technology. But at least we've more interesting races to look forward too, I'm actually excited about TOYOTA vs Glickenhaus this year.
The FUBAR of the LMH regulations emerges with your insights, thank you. I always knew it was too good to be true, now I understand why.
I dont really want to see a DPi car winning at LeMans. The original vision of Hypercar was more exciting to me. This watered down compromise will still end up being sillhouette racing, rather than any link to road cars.
Reality is, the average road car is a partsbin silhouette car built by magna, ZF, Bosch, Delphi, Aisin, and other auto suppliers, why do you think your race series should be any different?
Very informative item, thanks. Need to watch it again to make sure I didn't miss anything.
Thanks! Enjoy!
Motorsport has always been an engineering & management competition. As soon as BoP comes into play, it shifts from a sport towards a show. To cut costs, the should to three things:
1. Cap cost drivers such as the overall budget, headcount, expenses for suppliers, testing time or wind tunnel hours.
2. Standardized parts that aren't differentiators from a marketing standpoint anyways like monocoque, gearbox, fuel tank and so on.
3. Rules, that do not require overly complex systems such as the hybrid systems. Or, if the manufactureres think that hybrid systems are such a vital part to modern, "green" motorsport, it should at least be as simplistic as possible.
Having a lot of manufacturers involved with different approaches to racing sounds good to me! BoP has been working in LMGTE Pro. And now IMSA and WEC cars can both run in each other's categories! What's not to like about this?! Time will tell but you got to start somewhere!
Great video and do more of this stuff
Why oh why do they not just let the Valkyrie, sc4, bolide, Project 1 race with a simple weight cap and fuel usage limit. The cars are there. Already developed. How difficult do they need to make it???
Because of LMDH they castradet the Hyper Cars for the Hybrid DPI rip off that will appear in 2023
Because the regulations say that you can't have over 750 hp
I think this has the potential to be the best racing since the Group C or GT1 days
1:09 Officially confirmed by FIA and ACO in their official FIA WEC Channel
I would like to see the technical progress and fast cars ..
Hyperion H2 Car with 1600 km range vs Porsche 919 Hybrid Evo vs. Audi TDI Hybrid or so ..
Different classes ..
The technical truth .. 2021 .
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Just here to say one of my pictures from Silverstone in 2019 WEC is the first to appear in this video, which is nice.
more than 190 likes anbd 0 dislikes seems like a good ratio 🙌 this video was very informative, keep up the good work and btw you don't have the subscribers you desserve you should have a lot more 😊
Thanks! I just started and there is a lot more to come!
338 and 0 now
I now also get the predicament Aston Martin are I'm with their red bull Valkyrie.
Well, you can count on me watching!😁
Man just imagine all these manufacturers at Le Mans
Mazda dPi
Acura dPi
Cadillac dPi
Toyota- Hybrid
Porsche- hybrid
Audi- Hybrid
Ford- Hypercar
Aston Martin- Hypercar
McLaren- Hypercar
Bugatti and Koenigsegg are the ones that are unknown
Alpine
Glickenhause
Aston Martin wont come to LM because of daddy $troll money and F1
@@Zero.X And by the looks of things nor will McLaren, as they will focus on Formula E and Indycar instead.
Alpine has only commited for 2021, Ford has not said anything official yet, and I'm not entirely sure why Bugatti and Koenigsseg would join
You’re in for some surprises with who exactly is interested
@@Ofitus21 I think Ford will join because they have multiple working prototypes. I find it odd McLaren wants to be in Formula E since they only have hybrids and no electric cars
For me Acura rebranded as Honda to global championships (Acura is Honda's american brand).But I understand your idea,for me is a great adittion to sportscar racing,make compete these cars in Le Mans
Thank you very much for this clear and comprehensive overview. I think it is the right choice that LM is evolving and utilizing new concepts. Will this concept be more successful or attractive - history will tell ... One thing is certain I am much looking forward to see Porsche / Audi / Bugatti / Peugeot ... returning to the Sarthe with new regulations giving Endurance Racing a fresh start. Thanks Mate!
Very informative thank you, Great video.
I thought it would only be Road HyperCars. When you try to please everyone you please no One
I Think this Will end with only being lmdh cars. That Can also be interesting racing but pure Road hypercars would have been better
Glad you enjoyed it!
I've read a lot of comments, and I genuinely don't understand.
I see a lot of people saying "why not enlist actual hypercars from brands that make them???"
- Because they wouldn't last 6 hours, let alone 24. The cars would need extreme modifications (as seen in GTE cars) to be able to make it through the race, and even then, it's not guaranteed.
"they should require that they produce versions of the car for commercial use!"
- That would most likely work out terribly. It worked well in the 90's because of the "simple" cars they had back then, but wouldn't be feasible for this caliber. Outside of just ending up being extremely expensive, they would also have to cut R&D costs for the Le Mans car itself, seeing as they would have to include the R&D for the road legal version into their budget. That leaves a lot to be desired. Also, let's not talk about private teams in LMH, who wouldn't be able to do it either way because they're not, y'know, car companies.
"it feels like all of these compromises are leaving a ton to be desired"
- Because there is. There's not enough teams that are willing to do hybrid systems because they're insanely expensive, even with pre-existing layouts. You still have to make it work somehow, and make it last as well. Toyota is the only Hybrid car out there right now, which means that they haven't been able to just leave out any hybrid regulations and tailor the rules to purely combustion powered cars. They're had to think of both sides so the Toyotas didn't fall behind, but didn't win by the insane margins they have in previous years.
TL;DR - Everything has been done for a reason, and hopefully more factory teams can return to WEC to save LMH.
I think we all want more manufacturers back in the top category. I understand everything you say here, but i remain sceptical because of the balance of performance. To me it feels as if the best engineers are punished because their car is too fast. This just doesn't makes sense to me. (Although at least the cars have to be reliable for 24 hours, so the engineers still have to do a proper job.)
I think that we're going to see some beautiful cars.
In the end I think this set of changes is going to be great for WEC. While it might stifle innovation in some areas, it is more important to make the top class more accessible and attractive for new teams. This current WEC season hasn't been too exciting in the top class thus far and I don't think this year's Le Mans race is going to much different. But that's quite forgivable with the regulations only having solidified quite recently and the general state of the world right now. I for one can't wait for the 2022 season!
how are teams slowed down with this bop thing? what exactly does the organization do to them?
0:33 And in 2017 previously,before the LMH idea,ACO wanted more cars to try to no convert LMP1 in only Toyota class (with CLM,the last non-hybrid car in 2017).Finally with Porsche retirement,ACO was created new rules for non-hybrid cars for 2018-19 season,reason for exist cars like Rebellion R13,Ginetta G60-LT-P1 and BR Engineering BR1 (not be confused with BR01,a LMP2 car from 2016)
Before this,between 2014 and 2016.ACO was divided LMP1 in 2 subclasses,LMP1-H (focused in manufacturers and they are hybrid cars) and LMP1-L (mostly private teams with low resources and with non-hybrid cars).The two classes were merger back to an only LMP1 because Audi was retired from LMP1-H and Rebellion was retired from LMP1-L
Uh no.My bad,LMP1-H and LMP1-L as separates classes were used only in 2014.But essencially until 2016,they were still existed as a LMP1 Manufacturers' Trophy (H) and LMP1 Teams' Trophy (L).Teams one were canceled in 2017 because ByKolles (CLM) was alone,and in 2018 a New World Championship for LMP1 Teams were introduced modifying the old manufacturer format,now championship was only for teams (manufacturers and privateer ones) until 2019-20
Yes I do think that they should open it up for all different kind of cars!!!
3:42 I really like the idea to make run a Porsche "911 GTH".Name was my idea,H is for Hybrid
Can you make a video on the Dodge SRT Tomahawk hyper car?! Please.
They have got more teams on the grid so that's a positive thing. Also it's good to try new things out otherwise you never learn anything. They can refine the rules of the next few years keep the best bits and removing things that don't work and hopefully get some decent racing
I wasn't expecting anything better coming from a federation who let a category with one single manufacturer racing alone, winning for 3 years against no one.
European Prototype racing imploded when they killed Group C. IMSA kept Prototype racing on life support ever since then. Hybrids should be limited to a unit integrated in the gearbox RWD only with either a spec built or build to spec unit. Battery storage should be a spec supplied unit only. Hybrids are merely a stepping stone from IC to electric power for manufacturers so they won't have a long term high volume production life as the economics will dictate. That keeps costs lower overall and satisfies the temporary life of hi volume hybrids to the OEM's.
Cutting the P2's down is a bummer. It has been the most popular and competitive class since 2016.
I think a lot of classes at Lemans is good but having more cars is better.
The circuit is huge and 67 cars is not enough. I think 200 cars is the way to go! hahaha!
This was probably the most depressing video I have seen on car racing.
Listening to the explanations (you did an excellent job BTW. Much better and in depth but also more simple to understand than most other youtubers on this subject) I really miss the old super expensive LMP1 cars.
These new category regulations are far too complicated and too blurred with each other to be distinctive which is why we USED to love the WEC Lemans racing. It doesn't translate to the fans watching. It was a huge letdown when they started going away from the streetcar/supercar/hypercar theme and now its just a slower watered down version of the LMP class.
I used to take off work for the 24 hour Lemans religiously for years.... this year... I didn't even know it was on until I saw some TH-cam videos popping up in my views. I have no interest in watching it anymore and that is friggin sad😢
Yup, False hope too 🤣
I thought the LMH are going be like GT1-prototype version
But, we got pranked 🅾️🤣
I really just wanted to see cars like the LaFerrari, P1, and 918 turn into full race cars. Why not have Mercedes develop a standardized Hybrid system if they even want to keep Hybrid technology? Along with a standardized ECU, it will saved R&D costs substantially.
So can LMH cars compete in the US too, at Daytona/Sebring etc?
They are not so clear on that now. They said they created a common top class which is true for Le Mans
@@BSport320 It would seem unfair if the LMDh could compete at Le Mans, but LMH couldn't compete at Daytona. I hope they they can!
@@timmyotoole1 Hope so too!
I'd much rather see which manufacturer is the best with no restrictions. Isn't that what it's all about. If one manufacturer is in front for 24hrs then they are simply the best.
I don't know in profund but Hypercar maybe will be a 2-3 years class. Althought Toyota and Peugeot are in with LMH in short time they will change to Lmdh (a late standard prototype IMSA;ACO.FIA) cars more cheap. We don't know the performance of this LMH cars.
Yes you know, it's 3:30' lap at Le Mans by rule. That's slower than current lmp2.
Amazing video
Thanks!
It should be like this:
LMH: you can build your racecar from scratch, but then you have to produce a number of road going cars with only a few differences.
LMDH: you can use a standard chassis (designed to accommodate AWD) and put your heavily modified mass production engine and your bodywork on it, without having to produce a road going version.
Minimum weight and maximum fuel flow equal for all. Freedom in design of the electric part of the power unit, with just a limit on the capacity of the battery.
LMH is too expensive for you? Just build an LMDH, instead.
I can't say I'm big fan of all these different cars mixing up because it seems that it is done haphazardly and it lacks clear vision for the future. It is like experimental class too see what sticks then start building around it which is stupid approach in my opinion meanwhile GTE is hurting just as badly. It really makes you think what is ACO thinking.
I really think they should have bit the bullet and develop LMH slowly instead of trying to blow it up with everything.
if they'd not introduced LMH this year, we would've had another snooze party at Le Mans.... i think we'll see GT3 cars in WEC before long.
@@Fysmodul6 Yeah but better have one or two slow years and take that time to attract teams/manufacturers that will commit to years ahead instead of getting teams in that might get disappointed and pulled out because class is not going in direction they like. Then there is an issue of how do you even start to BoP this fairly ?
Aston pulled out because they won't be able to sell their racing cars to other teams when using LMDH is just cheaper option so it begs the question why would even aston martin use their car. So from that stand point it is not appealing and selling cars and making them is great way to cut down the costs for everyone.
If BoP works that means in year or of two we are looking at all LMDH and if that is the case why even have LMH anyway.
It is messy situation no matter how you look at it.
Yes, but they had a golden opportunity to create convergence this year. Aston pulled out because of Aston being Aston. Anyway I look forward to the racing this year!
@@Fysmodul6 Convergence ? Aston pulled with good reason no idea what you mean by that.
@@MarkoLomovic lmp2 is cheaper and quicker.
Hypercar is just fine. lmh and lmdh will coexist just like the 10 year group c/GTP rule set. You’ll be able to take your chassis around the world, and race for the win. No GT3 at Le Mans and all will be done to push manufacturers towards the top class. It’s a prototype future, and it’s gonna be fantastic.
Did I mention the Cisitalia ?
I have a solution
GT1 or just let them have have it with minimal restrictions AKA: group c modernised
Well minimal restrictions don't work though. One team will dominate for two seasons then everyone else will quit because they aren't winning enough or it gets to expensive.
@@Maenfy sadly
Just tell me which Toyota dealer in the US is selling their GR010 street version.
... for $2.5 million
LMH? LMDh? Hybrid? Prototype? Street Legal? RWD? AWD? BoP?
How did ACO and FIA develop these regulations from the previous LMP1?
Which factors played a role in creating this rule book?
And why will there be so many different cars in the Le Mans top category?
When this started they though it would see hyper cars from Ferrari, Porsche, Bugatti, Aston Martin, even maybe a Koenigsegg... I'm a little upset since they released the official rules change, but still I think this could be fun to watch
Maybe it's not ideal but if it brings a good field of cars together I'm all for it, they don't have to be equal across classes to have good racing in a 24 hour event.
yes
I don't like the balancing aspect because the best car should win and not the one who got punished the less, especially in the "prototype" class. P.s I'm from Germany so please excuse my language hope you understand
if they wanted real exciting racing, just get rid of all regulations. let them build the craziest, fastest cars, regulations be damned and see who comes out on top.
Well, things like driver safety and emissions have to be considered
Well they tried that with LMP1, if you they do that though the costs just get to high to have good races.
Sounded good until you said the BOP words.
this
I was looking forward to the new LMH class given my understanding was that the class would be based on homologated hyper cars. What do we have now? A bunch of LMP2 cars with more horsepower and worse ugly like DPI cars. I guess I will stick with gt3 racing
Gt3 only has 3 car models now
I'm only upset with the styling choice for the GR010. When you thinj about it, the lmp platform is the only way forward for the top class at le Mans, cars like the senna, 918, wtc would never be able to produce any where near the downforce of an lmp style chassis even if they were race modified.
My gripe as I said earlier was the styling of the GR010. Toyota could of at least grafted in some recognizable, Toyota DNA in the front facia. Much like Mazda did with the DPi. Which is why I think DPi cars are not only the most interesting and beautiful prototypes to look at, but also hear with the freedom of engine choices.
We all wanted these new LMH race cars to at least carry some design langauge from their respective manufacturers. But the GR010 just looks like a watered down TS050.
@@koraxi8958 if only the hypercar class was based on road legal hypercars
@@falcongamer58 The info we got from SRO definitely lead us to believe that those 'Hypercars' we revere so much were going to be a base for these LMH, it was misleading. In fact I don't even know what 'hypercar' is right now.
If you look at AM's valkyrie, you can almost predict how it's racing model would of probably end up looking like an LMP.
But of course, Toyota and the other manufacturers planning to compete in this new LMH class have the right to seek performance, just like how the fake GT1 cars; the TS020, Mercedes CLK GTR and 911 GT1 were created by exploiting loopholes in the regulations at the time. So too will they continue to now, and in the future. Manufacturers will seek the bare minimum exceptable formula for road and race car conversions and achieve the best possible performace the guidlines will allow them to. Tbh they'd be well within their rights to do so. Wining races should be their goal after all. Not sattisfying my pseudo GT1 revival fantasies.
Deep down inside I'm fine with that, just as long as this new LMH formula provides, teams, manufacturers and most of all good competitive racing. I stil think recognizable styling for the race cars LMP or not, will only do good for the brand. Looking forward to DPi/LMDH in the future 👌
@@koraxi8958 i wish they did it the GT3 / GT500 / DTM way where they take road cars and modify them to the proposed limits
Hyper slow cars. Because they are slower than current LMP2, they have to dumb down LMP2 and GT. Yesterday the DPi were 3 seconds quicker than the LMP2, so they should be 5 seconds quicker at Le Mans. I Don't understand why the DPi need to be Hybrid to even slower that they are now. For me is like replacing current F1 engines with indycar or F2 engines.
We haven't even seen a single Hypercar racing, how do you already know how fast they are? Those were just target times, they will surely get quicker over the next few years just as LMP1 did.
i reall want to see koenigsegg finally racing on lemans
I'm not so sure the manufacturers are really focused on electrification of their drive trains. I think they will be happy to be able to slap "Hybrid" on the side for the current tranche of road car marketing. But they know that EVs are a dead end tech and that they need to look beyond that, so any kind of development will be rummaging through parts bins. Make do and mend.
stop prototype cars and develaup the GT cars and open for street ligal hypercars like bugatti
purposeful de-tuning and "leveling" of the playing field will destroy any reason to innovate. honestly this does not sound like a good idea at all, but i probably couldnt do any better if I was in their scenario.
Well not really, there are good and bad GT3 cars even though there is a BoP for most of those series.
thx
Hypercars should be equip with hybrid unit as it proves more efficient in term of fuel consumption besides improving performance and reliability.
Yes, yes, and yes . Open the field up. Get Ferrari and everyone else BACK at LeMans. Lets make LeMans MEAN something again. This is really good for racing !
I would rather have races where manufacturers can push the limits to the maximum or no race at all.
Electrification as it is being pushed not by trend or by technical advantages compared to ICs but by political decisions, is certain to kill-off primarily F1 and possibly LeMans, although the latter just might get away because it is easier to adapt.
1 year later and the opposite is true.
I love gt3 or gte racing and i feel this could be the death of that category. I agree on a higher racing category but this is to complicated
Exactly I want to see road cars racing and that’s it
just wanted to say that lmdh means Le Mans Daytona Hypercar....
This fails to mention the massive mess that VW got themselves in which all their Motorsport programmes across the group ultimately suffered.
I hope these cars won't be too similar to road cars, this would be boring. LMP1 was great because it was cutting-edge technology on a level comparable even to F1. Now they aim at average racing just to be an advertising platform, meh.
Why not cancel LNP1 and make LMP2 the top class? Variety is good, and expensive "steamrollers" from Audi, Porsche, etc. is boring. The last couple of wins by Toyota were a foregone conclusion. We need competition.
Well that's exactly why there will be a new class this year instead of LMP1.
@@Maenfy Because that new class is slower than lmp2, so they have to slow down lmp2 and convert it almost in lmp3.
@@mariop8101 Yeah but LMP2 is not what a top class is supposed to be. It's for privateers not manufacturers. Also the Hypercars will get quicker over the next few years just as LMP1 did, no reason to worry.
the all electric category time is now. the race is 24 hrs..... to test cars. when the race was created a long long time ago cars were new, it mattered who won,reliability was an issue.. and now electric cars are new and the future. range,reliability and charge times are the new issues,plus lap times. the stock category would be great..btw the tesla model s is quicker than a 3 million dollar bugatti super car.
IMSA has perfected BOP, it’s all computerized, no politics
Atay ang thumbnail kay morag porsche nga hypercar hahahhaha. Dapat ang name ana kay Porsche 995 Hybrid.
It's a total mess. It's ridiculous.
I think the Americans got it right. Standardised mechanics the manufacturers can put their own bodywork on. Technical innovation is probably my favorite part of racing and I realise that a standardised chasis kills a lot of innovation.
But if the alternative is Balance of Performance then it has to be this way. Because FUCK BoP. BoP ruins everything, it's like you have a sprint race between human runners but the distance they're running gets altered in such a way that everybody arrives at the finish line at the exact same moment, murdering any sort of actual competition.
I think we could get really of both standardized parts and BoP. People say one team will dominate and costs will drive others away, but this simple formula worked very well for about 100 years of :Le Mans.
What drove costs up was the hybrid system. They split LMP1 into hybrid, which was mandatory for factory teams like Toyota, and non hybrid for smaller teams like ByKolles. Then smaller teams couldn't compete and Toyota was the only LMP1 hybrid left.
Just get back to group C regulations with modern safety. There was no shortage of competition in the group C days.
so mazda has a shot to win lemans again? WOOOOOO BABY
Do not practice dangerous motorsports. Do not promote dangerous motorsports.
".. it's all about electrification for them (manufacturers)" ... end of an era... *sigh*.
*you know the SPORT is going in the wrong direction when you PENALIZE a RACECAR for being TOO FAST ?!! W T F !!* 🤦🏻♂️
BoP is the only way to have a good show.
I don't care, don't like fake racing.
I don't know how I feel about what I just heard. We need regulatins that allows for engineering innovation, and progress to higher speeds. This is what auto racing is for.
About all I can say for this is "it's the times we live in."
And I would add that Hybrids have a key role towards Zero Emissions, as a way to reduce CO2 and other emissions. In particular from a LCA (life cycle assessment) perspective and WTW (well to wheel) calculations. The development of Renewable energy and adequate charging networks will be a reality, but even 10 years from now this will not be enough for a 100% BEV car park. So more sophisticated hybrid technology should be encouraged, and motorsports should be a test bed for its development. It doesn’t make sense to pursue Zero Emissions for society and Motorsports going in opposite direction.
Should have allowed only road legal cars. This is too hard to understand for the masses.
Why would it be easier to understand with road legal cars, what is that supposed to change?
BoP is not racing, I'll wait until the next regulations.
BOP is and will always be stupid and boring. Especially when there is already a budget cap in place, why bother trying to make a better car when it gets balanced to shit anyway?
4:11 what the heck is that nissan?!?
Nissan ZEOD RC electric
@@Ariespradana13 thanks
So LMP1 but relaxed rules?
no it's lmp2.5. Lmp1 laps le mans under 3'20'' this ones will be 3'30''.
At least Alpine vs two Toyotas was not so bad
they should've just added a budget cap and thats it. all these BoP rules just make it more complicated for spectators and drivers alike. Trying to please everyone wont work out b/c the people complaining either will make shit cars or just not do it.
I'm a "more the merrier" and "run what ya brung" kind of old school fan. I hope they figure it out. I like sports cars because they don't generally kiss Ferrari butt like F1. Their 1st question is always: "How does this affect Ferrari?" Who cares? Let them figure it out like everybody else.
We want least 5 cars for le mans. Not just Toyota.....
Now Toyota is the only purist manufacturer ironically
a somehow independet assessment of car performance is unthinkable it seems?
TL;DR: LMP 1,5
LMP1 in disguise? You bet it.
Sadly that the Hypercars are downgrated because of DPI Rip off called LMDH.
I would lile to see "Real" Hyperrace cars whit 800-1000PS and not just 680ps.
Bit the worse thing on LMDH is that Riley Multimatic is still in and not replaced by a Manufactoret who can develop a real race car.
WTF is that Nissan at
4:13 ?
It appears to be a Nissan branded DeltaWing. I'm no good with IMSA and other sports cars, so I could well be wrong, but that's the first thing that comes to mind.
@@morgfarm1 It is the Deltawing ^^.
Nissan ZEOD RC,was run in Garage 56 class in 2014 24 Hours of Le Mans,was designed by Ben Bowlby (I hope wrote his surname well),he was the original Deltawing designer.But finally was still considered copy of original model
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Just put cars we can buy in lemans! Forget all this stupid classes with no bearing on road cars. Nothing makes it better to watch knowing, you can own that car. BOP to a minimum. Give them a kj limit on fuel/energy and leave it. May the best manufacturer win.