China not hiring Black South Africans anymore? | Is Teaching English in China in 2024 worth it?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2024
- The conversation around the ESL market in China right now is that most schools are no longer hiring Black South Africans and some are offering low salaries to new teachers and salary cuts for current teachers.
Though I’m not personally affected at the moment but in this video I share my thoughts and opinions on the situation and here to let you know that you’re not alone and I hope you find a school that will value you and pay you your worth.
If you’re affected by this or have something to share please do so in the comments section so we can help each other out and share information.
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Sana, they would rather hire a Russian with a strong accent than a black teacher with a masters degree.. I’ve seen this here in Shenzhen 😢
Yoh! Just because of skin color 😭😭😭.
Yoh it’s so disheartening. It happens in Beijing as well 😞
It shows that they don’t care about the kids’ education. They just want to look “good” on paper 😏
Aside from the skin color. Russians are also much cheaper and have friendlier relations with China.
O montle maan! Thank you for this informative video. It's sad but it will be China's loss. SAns are some of the best teachers.
Kealeboga 🥰🥰.
So true, South African teachers are working their asses off here. We’re truly the best in the game and that’s being overlooked because of the color of our skin and that we’re from Africa 😞😞
wrong, ive just started here and they're all full of themselves and trouble causers.
@@Row2nd how so?
And facing stiffer competitions from other native speakers like from the US, Australia, Canada, NZ, UK and Ireland.
But there are actually openings for non-ESL foreign teachers.
The entire education scene has to adopt with the times with the rise of artificial intelligence (AI) and big data in education
Thanks for this Emily 🌹❤
Pray each day that things don't change at my school. I'm currently the only South African and they've said they are no longer taking South Africans
Do you have any idea why are they not taking any South Africans? Is it because of the work ethic, or maybe there's too many South Africans already? Or is it race?
That’s their strategy to make you feel worthless. Their next step is to reduce your salary. These people are too cunning 😤
True. They’re using these tactics to pay South Africans less ☹️☹️
I pray things don’t change for you sis 🩷. Don’t let them intimidate you with this not hiring South Africans talk. 🫂
I am sorry to hear that you ladies are going through that, I will be praying for you all, for strength and also more JOB opportunities for you in China, 🕊️ here are some scriptures to stand on “Joshua 1:9”, “Psalm 46:5” , Genesis 50:20” , and “Jeremiah 29:11”!
Also stand on this one “John 14:6”, I will be keeping you all in prayer don’t loose hope! Opportunities are everywhere for you all with GOD in control! And if you desire work in China, GOD can make it happen, ☺️ CONTINUE TO KEEP TRUSTING IN GOD! 🙏🏽🙌🏽
I'm currently affected by this too, my school told me they won't be renewing contracts for South Africans, it's such a stressful time sana.
Oooh yhini 😢😢
Aww sis 😢sorry about that!
I'm very curious do you know any reasons why?
I’m so sorry 😞. It’s really unfair especially because it’s not a valid reason and just because we’re South Africans 😞😞.
I hope you find another school in time. 🤍🤍🤍
I am sorry to hear that you ladies are going through that, I will be praying for you all, for strength and also more JOB opportunities for you in China, 🕊️ here are some scriptures to stand on “Joshua 1:9”, “Psalm 46:5” , Genesis 50:20” , and “Jeremiah 29:11”!
Also stand on this one “John 14:6”, I will be keeping you all in prayer don’t loose hope! Opportunities are everywhere for you all with GOD in control! And if you desire work in China, GOD can make it happen, ☺️ CONTINUE TO KEEP TRUSTING IN GOD! 🙏🏽🙌🏽
I'm also suffering from it. I'm depressed about the salary drop I received at my new work. It is distressing to see...😢🤦🏽♀️
🫂 yoh I can only imagine how stressful that is, having to adjust your lifestyle and plans 😞.
I really hope things change for the better. 🩷🩷
@@emilyboitumelo I’m praying for that too. Thank you momma. 💕
Its tricky honestly, at this point, sticking to your current school is the best or better options thats if you are happy. As long as they pay you on time and you work within stipulated hours in the contract stay.
Absolutely. I totally agree!
Being at a good school right now is a total blessing.
Dear miss do not give up on us. We might be small in number , we are family. ❤🎉
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Thank you Emily for this video... When I commented about the salary, my offer went out the door😅
Bathong 😔😔 you’re expecting to just accept whatever. They’re playing into people’s desperation it’s really sad 😞
Thank you for addressing the elephant in the room. I was trying to help a friend in SA get a job here in August but the schools/recruiters are not having it AT ALL. Devastating! 💔
And when you recommend recruiters to people and they start ignoring them it’s like we’re not giving good recommendations or not wanting to help 😞😞
It’s depressing, been wanting to move to mainland but the offers are ridiculously very low, at 12k in Suzhou is not worth it for me😔
It’s really not. The move has to make sense because despite popular belief, things aren’t that cheap in China. A decent salary is needed especially for the amount of work you’ll be expected to do.
Hopefully something worthy will come up 🙏🏽🩷🩷
the average salary for teachers is 20-30k, and those positions are very easy to find if qualified.
Wonderfully informative video! Thanks for your transparency and talking about this! It has been affecting me too as a Black American living in China for 5 years.
I get it that the money is great, but who do you live as a second-class citizen for all those years,,,,,,,,you better be a millionaire a few times over. People complain about "white supremacy/etc" in the US, but put up with major racism in China. Talk to me.........
I just watch your videos before and now I’m in China. 🥰
So cool 😊🌸🩷
Emily thank you so much for this very informative video. Kwaze kwa nzima emhlabeni 😂😂😂
Kunzima shem 😩😩 kukhala abaningi 😞. But i really hope we can help each other out.
Thank you Emily
It's not just people of color that are finding the market awful. Salaries have dropped for white native speakers from America/The UK too. The industry is slowly dying.
The double reduction policy destroyed a lot of jobs and Chinese folk are losing interest in international education. The new norm in the near future is going to be 15,000 yuan for colored teachers and 20,000 for white natives.
The competition is getting fierce and many people would take the pay cut just to live in China.
Trust me back South African will use the race card how ever and where ever they can. It works
I got offered 27k and i have no experience.
@@islamicreminders3090 Are you a qualified teacher? If so that's about average.
If not, you're incredibly lucky and anecdotal. I'm a white native and I get 20-25k offers these days with 8 years of experience and I teach a Science.
During COVID it was 30-35k. Things are awful right now.
@matthewlipton2998 I am getting offered 27k with no experience, and that's with housing allowance included.
Which country are you from?
@@islamicreminders3090 American, market is paying about -10k of what it did during COVID. There are far fewer jobs and everyone is struggling big time.
It’s really hard hey people should start looking in other countries as well.
True China is not the only country that needs ESL teachers.
china are waking up to the fact sa's are worse than the chinese staff at teaching english
Man I love listening to you 😂😂
thank you so much🌺🌷🌺
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I got on offer for 12k before tax for Hangzhou... I was considering taking it, but it seems not worth the pain of struggling in China.
It’s really not 😞😞 hopefully you get better offers 🙏🏽
The harsh truth in this 😢😢😢
Zimbabweans seem to stay mad at SAns like they aren’t coming into the country in droves and use SA as stepping stone to get to other countries, it’s disgusting. They always claim to be better but they have nothing to show for that “betterness”. We’re cool with other African people from their countries but wow, they have been showing out , especially on social media.
Nothing but the truth 🙌🏽.
That time I'm already looking for other offers cause the content creation I'm doing at my kindergarten is on steroids! 😂 I'm more so a host/MC than a teacher.
But thanks for making this video. I thought I was imagining things.
I’ve seen a few other people complain about how kindergartens want them to be content creators and marketers and not really focusing on teaching 😞
I hope you find a better school.
@@emilyboitumelo Thank you 🌻🌻
I recommend people to start looking elsewhere. Try Middle East.
Hie There how are you? I’m wondering if the same is happening to subject teachers in primary or high school or it’s mostly affecting the esl ? Might you have any idea on this ?
I think at the moment kindergarten and primary school ESL teachers are the ones who are mostly affected.
Hi Emily!!! I absolutely love your channel 🥺❤️
I am a South African Indian and I am in Matric I want to get a bachelor's degree in Education and teach English in China or South Korea. Do you think that I should go ahead at this point?
Thank you 🙏🏽🩷.
If teaching is something that you really want to do then please go ahead. China and South Korea are great places to teach in but they are not the only countries that need teachers. It may be difficult for some right now but we’re hopeful that the market will get better. There are so many students in need of good teachers.
How about for Black Americans
I am considering China
You can still go ,Your American passport gives you the privilege and the accent is likeable there .
@TheHuny85 so it has nothing to do with the colour of your skin. Black Americans are fine ?
@@islamicreminders3090 trust me the American accent is a privilege in China , i dont know about other countries .Black or white just have the American accent.
@@TheHuny85 I have a British accent .I am getting some good offers
@@islamicreminders3090 yes that is also a privilege
Try the Middle East or the U.S. There is a teacher shortage in America
I heard that the Middle East has some good offers and the quality of life there is very good.
How is the pay though in America ?
@@TheHuny85 50k USD and up. Most American teachers are quitting, so there are plenty of opportunities there.
Middle East wants PGCE or B.Ed,plus 2 years experience
@@GladnessMatji I wouldnt survive there ,i love dancing to Amapiano id be arrested for immorality or being too sexy lol
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It makes sense because whites is their native language but is sad for south Africans though i hope South African government can create more jobs for south Africans eish so that they don't have to struggle in china
Hopefully the next elections will bring some change to our country.
Most white people in South Africa are Afrikaners. It has less to do with who’s who but it’s straight up white supremacy. Here they’ll employ a Russian who can’t speak more than 5 words in English and leave a black American / South African who speak fluent English.
I just received an email after applying for a job. It states “sorry, this school prefers a white teacher” 😭😭😭
😞😞😞 I’m so sorry.
It’s so disheartening receiving messages like that, but don’t let it tear you down. That’s just a sign that you’re not meant to be there.
A better option will eventually come up and I hope it does soon 🙏🏽🙏🏽🩷🩷
@@emilyboitumelo thank you ☺️
Hopefully I come across something better. I wanna leave my job end of July when my contract ends.
I’m currently in South Korea and was considering moving to China later this year😢I think I should stay where I am
That's absolutely disgusting. It's racist .What about black Americans and British?
@ayandavilakazi8856 I'm considering china, too. I'm in south korea as well. But I work at a hagwon and I HATE that the vacation days are so short😢😢😢😢😢😢. I'm definitely still gonna try china. It doesn't hurt to try.
Maybe English could be considered the native language now but many people don't understand one other. There are over 10 languages. My research - growing up there over the last 40 years.
is not true at all, the demand is still huge for qualified teachers. I haven't taught for 5 years, and applied at some schools, and most offered me the job right away.
Ziyakhala girls😂
Kubi 😢😭
@@emilyboitumelo but there's something that is hardly mentioned Tumi, many of our female teachers just do silly things at school and outside. I think alot of people deny how conservative this country really is...China is dead strict the sacking and bloodbath we witnessing is mostly due to behavior, the Chinese admins won't tell u, they move underwater u know them. Things like time keeping, class preparation and being discreet with our personal life gets you far in China. We don't give the employer material to sack...Our maturity needs to improve in this space...
I wasn't going to comment but this is something I experienced a lot from "some" condescending Korean co-teachers many years ago.
I think the designated pool of English speaking countries, particularly in Africa, it's diplomatically based on first of all The Commonwealth background, secondly I think it's based on progressive history and politics. Because not only are Foreign teachers merely teaching English but also bringing with them English culture in the classroom.
It's not only about money, but something based on socio political background of a country, because a lot of times there are a lot of historical and cultural aspects of the English language that a teacher is expected to explain to the students as part of English learning process. To enable them to understand the culture and be able to do business with Anglophone countries in future.
The last time I checked Zimbabwe wasn't and it still isn't a member of Commonwealth (for political reasons)
These are the things that diplomats put in consideration when determining who they deem qualified as a "native English teacher" also as per visa requirement. In a nut shell who they think would better teach their children English while imparting English culture with them, for future purpose of commerce and even possibly migration to English speaking countries.
If you look at the list of 7 designated English speaking countries, with the exception of USA, all of them are the strongest members of The Commonwealth countries. This is why I say it's not only about teaching English as a native English teacher. Host countries that are inviting native English teachers are doing this with a trade purpose in mind. They are carrying out this initiative for the future purpose of cultural exchange also as a way to prepare for stronger future trade relations with these 7 designated English speaking countries (which also happen to be major global economic zones) with the commonality of English as their primary language of commerce.
Let me conclude this by saying to you (Tea is how we meet) 📜
Zimbabwe was a member of the Commonwealth until 2003 when they left for political reasons. Educate yourself
@@Bourne-fu8bz No, it was removed for human rights reasons. Such are things that are affecting your diplomatic recognition compared to other current members of Commonwealth.
This is your statement "The last time I checked Zimbabwe wasn't and is still not a member of Commonwealth" You are implying Zimbabwe has never been a member of Commonwealth. It's strange someone who calls himself an English teacher doesn't understand a simple phrase. There is something called Google to fact check your statements. Zimbabwe got its independence in 1980, we were members of the Commonwealth from 1980 to 2003. Besides, there are Zimbabwean teachers in China. The third largest group of foreign nurses in the UK from Africa are Zimbabweans, after Nigeria and Kenya. Zimbabweans also working in Australia, Ireland Canada and USA. The Chinese are clueless about English proficiency standards. Most of the English teachers in China would not qualify for a job in the UK, Australia or USA. Zimbabweans can be found in top positions in English speaking countries working as lecturers, engineers, accountants, architects etc.
@@Bourne-fu8bz Listen I'm not here to pointlessly argue with you. I merely stated your diplomatic setbacks and things that you do not have compared to South Africa to be on a list of 7 designated native English speaking countries where ESL teachers are recruited from.
It's a long list of diplomatic requirements. We all know Zimbabwe is nothing compared to South Africa in terms of the economy, size and many other factors. I will close my argument here, so that I don't agitate you any further.
I moved here last year September and it has been blow after blow! Got in a TC, they got rid of me after 16 days. I managed to secure a job after a few weeks, the offer was okay but mentally I going under! I resigned and securing my current job was a mission! Things are not rosy, the high salaries people speak of? I’m still waiting for a full cheque(I’ve been getting pro rata). It’s bad!
😔😔 so sorry that’s been your experience so far. For most of us it really does start off quite rough before things get to what seems to be rosy. Praying that things get better for you 🌸🩷🩷
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This is so wild, imagine! So blatantly nogal! Hopefully you and other teachers can shine more light on this issue and more people will be willing to stand beside us because this is clear cut racism. So disheartening.
It’s so blatant and they don’t even care. They’ll tell you that’s what the school/parents want.
Fighting seems pointless cause they’ll just tell you to go back home. But I really hope we can help each other where we can through this
my school
let me go, leaving in June. after 8 solid years I'm done bra. and yes, stay away from kindergartens, it's not secure.
Nooo 😭😭😭😭.
I’m so sorry 😞😞. Is the school shutting down?
Ohhhh man😢😢😢
❤️🌹Emily you’re enchanting!🌹❤️
May GOD bless you beautiful!☺️🙏🏽🙌🏽
May you have success in all you do! “Psalm 46:5” & “Psalm 90:17”
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I hope this video is for INFORMATION, and not COMPLAINING that China prefers white teachers.
I don't understand how the Black teachers accept the treatment and/or the lower pay to work in China. I don't understand how you go to a place like that without knowing the landscape.?. DISCLAIMER: I am a black guy living in the US, so I have a lot more options, but I am not taking that kind of daily discrimination in this day and age.
Hai we are going through it shame yaz🥹🥹💀
Kuningi 😔😔
They offered me 10K rmb said they'd increase it to 11k rmb the following year. If I broke the contract I would be fined 500 usd I am so grateful for Sli who told me to decline the offer. I am still looking but I am glad I did not take the sl@ve contract
That’s definitely a slv contract. They even have no shame when offering people these contracts 😞. Glad you didn’t take it, it’s really not worth it.
I hope something better comes up for you. 🙏🏽🩷
They prefer non native speaker's
Our options at this moment are quite limited.
They really are 😞.
I think you mistaken. The demand for english teachers is very high. My daughter is currently teaching in Chengdu. She was offered 9 teaching jobs in 2 weeks in Chengdu, Beijing and Thailand. By the way she is a colored south african. She says the people there are extremely friendly and teachers salaries are very high.
We all have different experiences.
I’m glad your daughter had a good experience 🌸
Hi Boitumelo, thanks for this video, super insightful. I have been considering moving that side but I was hoping in 2 year... or even next year. Will it be worth it then? Thank you and God bless
It will definitely get tougher to secure a good school that will offer you a competitive salary but if you give yourself time to consider all available opportunities then it will be worth it. Especially if you’re looking at primary schools or higher cause the future of most kindergartens is looking very bleak.
@@emilyboitumelo Thank you so much for taking the time to respond🙂
Yup they ghost you after seeing your picture. No matter how qualified you are.
So rude 😞😞
What was the amount initially they used to offer from 12k rmb?
To my knowledge back in 2019 it was at least 15k rmb plus housing allowance or free apartment in Beijing
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Do you think the job hopping is what is also affecting South africans?
It seems like there are a lot of factors at play here. Some are labelling South Africans as entitled and difficult and I’m trying to gather where this judgement stems from.
I am currently at a kindergarten and in overall my school is good but i am with them through an agency, i am actually tired of the agency as they take part of my salary every month and am trying to apply to other schools its still dry yooh. Don't even know what to do
Try talking to the school if you could sign with directly after your current contract ends.
Normally agencies are quite expensive even for schools so they would be willing to sign you directly if they’re not outsourcing other services to the agency.
@@emilyboitumelo i tried they said it's not possible i think the option i have now is to look for another school because they are just taking a lot shame. around 6 k every month.
It is a bit racist, but there are also other factors that are understandable as to why some schools don't want to hire black SA teachers.
1-most black teachers in China at the primary levels are not NES's so parents are wary of being lied to by the school, so not as good for the school from a business perspective.
2-many black SA teachers, even if NES's, have an 'African' accent, which is less desirable for schools and parents. Especially if the students are preparing to go overseas or take IELTS/TOEFL exams.
also. most students will be going abroad to study in the US, or Canada, Australia, England, and not SA, so it makes sense that they want teachers from these countries
@@JalomMatia If you’ve lived in China, you would know that it’s definitely a skin color issue. Black teachers from the UK and USA also experience the same. Most parents can’t differentiate between the accents (especially in public schools). You’re required to submit a self tape to rule out accents that are harder to understand. This also includes accents from USA and other native countries. However, Russians and other non English speaking Europeans get hired over black teachers. I’ve worked with Spanish and Russian English teachers. I’ve had recruiters ask me in the past if I was “Obama colour”. Your comment comes across as racist , misinformed and dismissive. All accents in South Africa are “African”.
@@nolwazihadebe7467 my comment is not racist at all. you can look up what the word means. nor is my comment lacking truth. you're in denial, perhaps like playing the race card, and being a victim. Yes, there is racism in China against blacks, but that doesn't take away from the truths i pointed out.
families in CHina have paid fortunes for their child to learn English from a NES, and after they were lied to and paid a year's worth of lessons, they discovered that the teacher was a black non native speaker, so it is understandable for families to be wary of any black teachers, even if they are form US or UK, because they have been lied to in the past from schools. but yes, there is also racism, it's a bit of both.