A massive thanks to all our patrons who funded us to the point where we felt confident taking the dive on producing a series over two and a half years. And thanks to all of you for watching this whole time. We've had a blast working on Developing Hell. It was a great learning experience on how games are made, and how to produce a docu-series. Hopefully we have more of these in our future. Thanks again. Become a Patron in 2021! patreon.com/noclip
Spectacular work to both the NoClip team and Supergiant. This has been a really enjoyable and insightful series and I'd love to see you do another one just like this with another studio.
For the love of god and everything that is holy - PLEASE follow them for their next game(s) as well!!! I'm routing for them so much!! But nonetheless your documentation is/was incredible!!!!!
everyones always “Ares this” “Thanatos that” - you know what’s REALLY the sexiest part of hades? The fact that it was made with no crunch. Nothing sexier than a healthy work environment.
I guarantee you that there were long hours, longer than 8h a day. Or is it only crunch when it's management-mandated? Cos most long hours aren't, but they're still long hours.
Once you've seen enough documentaries, you just keep waiting for that dark second act to hit, but this is such a positive story, there is no second act. It's only up, Up, UP!
well, this documentary wasn't a tragic one at all. It was a really good & positive one a game I looked forward to with no expectations and did really well that I personally enjoy!
What Amir said at the end about being careful in attributing the success of a project to something specific that you did is incredibly poignant, very self-aware, and extremely humble. Love that he's got such a bird's eye view on this, because a lot of other creators would've given into that temptation and read off a list of reasons why they finally nailed it with this game and how they've mastered their craft. Amir's response shows that he knows that the team is going to keep growing and better itself, and they're all better off for it 👏
It's the mannerism of a true artist... they never see the brilliance of their creations; that's up to the interpreter... they only see the flaws and how to make those better.
I REALLY wish they'd partner with like Fangamer so I could get some dope shirts, hoodie, and like... Plushes of the keepsakes? Plush bouldy would be great.
I lost my dad to covid in October 2020. It was devastating... and I remember staying in a little hotel in Ann Arbor trying to keep it together. I saw Hades on the Nintendo eShop. I've played every Super Giant game in the past and they were always enjoyable. That autumn and winter had been rough as hell... but I played Hades whenever I had free time and somehow found myself having fun, even laughing sometimes. Its a really good game... and it got me through. For that, I am truly thankful.
@@NoclipDocs I didn't expect any response, but thank you so much. Sadly, with so much loss going on these days, there has to be a lot of other folks with stories similar to mine. Stay safe out there. 🫂
I am SOOOOO happy this studio is doing so well. Not a single bad game, no drama, no misstreatment of employees, they are super sweet with the community... Praying for more studios like them and I can't wait to see what their next masterpiece will be
Greg's review of Disgaea for the PS2 made me give it a try and I fell in love with the whole series from then on. Cannot thank him enough for his eloquent words.
I'm selfish for wanting this but in my heart of hearts, after experiencing 30 hours of Hades II in early access. I'm really hoping that Hades II: Return to Hell is another Noclip mini series. I wonder about Amir and Greg and everyone at Supergiant when they see that Hades II in Early Access on Steam has already passed their peak players of Hades on Steam. I have no doubt that when Hades II launches 1.0, it'll be an achievement even rivaling that of the original Hades. Grateful to Noclip forever preserving this time capsule to what is now a beloved franchise.
The sheer *reverence* in their voice when they said "it's next to you know...Mario and Zelda in reviews". That is one hell of a statement to be able to make as a developer.
Not to mention that they're a studio of 20 people. I can certainly understand how floored they were to the point of still not being able to grasp the enormity of it all. All of a sudden, your little studio just stepped inside the premier inner circle, and everyone welcomed you with open arms. An inner circle that has the likes of characters that have been recognizable by the majority of the population, gamers and non-gamers alike, for decades. How do you honestly react to something like that?
Before starting the documentary i didn't get it and thought developing the game had been hell and it was a documentary about crunch...Oh how wrong I was
The indignation when a game made without crunch goes head to-head with the worst of crunch culture for Best Direction at The Game Awards, and the crunch game wins.
@@SamC77 It just sucks because The Game Awards is, by far, the most popular, despite being obviously influenced by publishers. Here, from The Game Award's Wikipedia page: The Game Awards has an advisory committee which includes representatives from hardware manufacturers Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo, and AMD, along with several game publishers. This committee selects around thirty influential video game news organizations that are able to nominate and subsequently vote on the video games in several categories. The advisory committee otherwise does not participate in the nomination or voting process. During the nomination round, each of the news outlets provides a list of games in several categories; games for the esports-related categories are chosen by a specific subset of these outlets. The committee compiles the nominations and selects the most-nominated games for voting by these same outlets.... Winners are determined by a blended vote between the voting jury (90%) and public fan voting (10%) via social media. Publishers select the voting panel. It's not hard to imagine they pick people that will vote for their games. It's why The Last of Us 2 wins awards, even nonsensical ones, while other games don't even make the nominees. Despite being total bs, these awards shows are great marketing for games. Watching games that deserve the spotlight denied it sucks.
@@Pan_Z the categories they have, the nominations and winners are already a HUGE clue that this voting committee is mostly out of touch with gaming and the voting is all on game popularity, not the actual criteria for the award. who the hell is "Newsweek" or "LA times" in gaming?? every "best ongoing game" has always been a joke there were always a better title than what 'won', and remember Destiny2 was nominated the same YEAR it released for "ongoing" game. TGA's nominations and voting and setup is a joke from start to finish. no respectable award show would run the award ceremony in the same year and disrespect the games from that year that released shortly before or after the ceremony. the fact that PUBG or death stranding were nominations is too much. GOTY should always be 2 things: 1 - made well and not buggy, 2 - and greatly recieved/fun. PUBG and death stranding are only 1 of those things listed. we have Dice for the real game awards, no focus on esports, or twitch thots, or out of touch voting committee or running the show in the SAME YEAR. TGA is like Nascar for games, very low standards.
@@prcr364 What I said is true. This game is made by a game journalist, and you know how they operate. They are part of the same clique that made this video... which implicitly promotes the game itself. There is no meritocracy. You better have some important friends and be politically aligned with these people if you want them to notice you. They are evil.
It's so endearing to see Amir be so flustered and nervous about the launch, considering that this is their fourth game. Shows how much love and care Supergiant put into every single release. Excellent video as always, Noclip, and as for Hades, it's my GOTY :)
Every studio (big and small) have people who are deeply invested and nervous about launching a game, no matter how professional (like Supergiant) they might be. It's incredible exiting and nerve-wracking to put something out in to the void and wait, if the void cares.
As someone who works in games, this is 100% what happens for every launch. It's always nerve wracking to release a game into the world and see how people respond to it. About a week later the post-launch blues hit!
@@MagusakaJanus Unless the post-launch scramble to release a hotfix its first. The blues come in two parts - the first after initial release and the second when you move away from the project for good.
For anyone watching, I thought you'd like to know it IS still crazily highly reviewed on Switch. Number 4 of all time on Metacritic, only behind BOTW, Odyssey, and Divinity: Original Sin II. Bloody well done, Supergiant!
@@NeostormXLMAX Absolutely. Though I feel like Larian had to learn a bit more from mistakes they made in their older games, but damn, did they learn well and made some incredible improvements to already pretty good games. I'm so looking forward to the full release of BG3, even though I think that nothing they do will ever top the experience that Divinity II gave me.
This entire series was Incredible. The narrative, the openness of the studio, the production quality, the whole shebang. But I think my favorite part of the whole thing was seeing how Darren Korb’s facial hair was going to change from interview to interview.
I'm so happy for Greg. He went from being a game reviewer on GameSpot to a writer at a new company, Supergiant Games. Back then they were working on Bastion. Their first title. That game was critically adored and praised. And look at him now. Creative Director of Supergiant Games where they have been releasing hit after hit. I'm happy for his journey in life and the successes he has attained.
The game along with the 6-part documentary is the complete package. The documentary has perfectly complemented the game. Hope you guys keep being part of such great projects in the future, as this is a great one for the CV.
I only just started watching this series this past weekend, and was delighted to see the last episode was just added yesterday. Phenomenal series, and great insight into Supergiant's process. I've not yet gotten to play Hades, but it's definitely at the top of my list now.
This game is more fun the Witcher 3 and Mass Effect 2, my previous GOAT games. I didn’t have to make myself take breaks from those games. My gf has to pull me away from Hades
Being an indie studio isn't a statement about the size of a the studio but about how it treats its people and community. Stay an indie studio forever guys and we will always support you. Just keep making what you love no matter what the trends want .
Its isn't a statement about the size the studio because it just isn't. Indie is independant. Its a binary quality that describes whether or not the game is self published. The size of the studio is a completely different metric independent of independence. Some indie studios are AAA.
@@Wylie288 Indie and AAA are nebulous terms with no consistent usage, and thus no consistent definition. We can state what the "correct" one is all day but they're useless outside of what OP said
@@NoConsequenc3 That isn't true. They have meanings. Our community being a bunch of illiterate morons doesn't change that. They are not even gaming terms. AAA is a term that describes a certain budget in ALL of the enteratinment industry. Its a spectrum of money. Independant vs Published is a separate binary quality for ALL of the entertainment industry. Only gamers get these things wrong. That doesn't make them "nebulous". That make you a fucking idiot.
Honestly, the biggest challenge this studio is going to have for any future releases is managing expectations for both its fans but especially its staff. Take your time, do what you need to do and stay grounded and best of luck! If anyone ever questions if games are art I'll point to this game and they will agree. I still listen to Out of Taterus and God of the Dead several times a week and planning to do a Zagreus cosplay when that becomes possible again and if I can get rid of this corona 1 keg belly xD
“The temptation of success is to say your process must have been good because the game is good.” “It’ll work out, we made Witcher 3.” Different studios, different mindsets, different results. Stay humble folks.
@@lederp42 In a Bloomberg article titled "Inside Cyberpunk 2077's Disastrous Rollout" written by Jason Schreier, Published Jan 15, 2021. "Some engineers realized that Cyberpunk was too complex of a game to run well on the seven-year-old consoles, with its city full of bustling crowds and hulking buildings. They said management dismissed their concerns, however, citing their success in pulling off The Witcher 3."
@@popintarts6362 As someone who has been playing on a top of the line PC and had almost no issues, idk how ANYONE can take one look at this game running on a good PC, which is how most of them must have seen it during development, and think it was possible to stuff this game into a PS4. This game is the new Crysis and you wanna put it on the console that couldn't even run Control at a playable framerate? That game wasn't open world and didn't have crowds of NPCs! Management got greedy looking at PS4 install base, there's no other explanation for it. Make a game that pushes the absolute cutting edge of graphical fidelity Ship on last generation hardware Choose one
this is a telling response. nowadays some games are straightup created to be goty games and they don't even hit the mark often but bc of their hype they are hamfisted into being nominated anyway
It's touching and funny to watch this play by play, to see them stressed and fretting about it.... and sitting in feb 2021 and knowing "hey, this was THE game of the year. y'all did it. it's gonna be okay."
Btw, for anyone wondering since I was just researching this a week or two ago. The sound tiles in the game studio are BAUX Acoustic Wood Wool hexagon tiles. Not a sponsor or even own the product, just was staring at the tiles wondering why they looked familiar lol.
This is probably the actual greatest video game story of all time. I'm so happy for all the humans involved in the game, this doc series, and people like me who just played and enjoyed Hades.
they do have a merch store on their official website! i think they're mostly selling the music track CDs and some posters and shirts, but i agree the coasters NEED to happen
I played it before Hades and you can really tell a lot of the inspiration for Hades came from Pyre. Despite Hades being their absolute best game, Pyre holds a very special place in my heart
It's good but it's just a flavor of the month kind of game. The presentation is good but it's just any other indie roguelite game out there. Wonderfully executed but also nothing new.
Watching these talented, hard-working, dedicated creatives respond to the positive reception to their work is like therapeutic. I'm so happy for them. They deserve it, Hades is incredible.
I haven't even watched the video yet and I'm so excited. I'm over 170 hours into Hades and I'm still coming across unique dialogue and still need to finish up a few upgrades. Certainly the best game I played last year and thank you to NoClip for making me interested in this amazing game I would have over looked without this amazing series.
"What is ...Eurogamer? Essential? Do they give numbers?" Loved that. Who are these arcane scribes from across the sea? Essential? Who cares, I WANT MY NUMBER!
Not to be a downer, but that part was a sobering reminder for me that reviews and awards DO matter. Hell, the people who make these games gain not an insignificant amount of validation from it. They even skipped straight to the score! This is why it's important for us as audiences to patronize only the reviewers and award shows that give games a fair shake - no more, no less. Because they do have power, and it's up to us to keep them on their toes and make sure that they wield that power properly.
@@iatwiatw They were looking at reviews for a game they'd just spent hundreds upon hundreds of hour pouring their hearts, souls, blood, sweat and tears into making. They're looking for the numbers because they *really wanna know if they liked it*. It's very different to looking at reviews as a consumer wondering if a game is worth buying.
such a fantastic game, im over 200 hours in and still havent completely finished it, partly because i've been delaying the conclusion! Before this video I had little insight into the development process, thanks noclip!
Man, I got a little teary-eyed towards the end. Such a wonderful, wonderful game. Something really special happened, and we are really blessed that you were there to document some part of it. Cheers to both Supergiant and NoClip!
This has been brilliant! I hope (pandemic permitting) you'll be able to do more embedded documentary series in the future! It's genuinely inspiring to see them struggle with a task and have doubts in one episode to see them accomplish it later on to critical acclaim.
@@Cosmitzian Absolutely. It's a shame, because some really good people have been putting an insane amount of work into this game, but the work and release policies crunched the game and exploited the programmers and designers so much that the game came out as a bugged, unfinished mess.
I will always have immense respect for the dev team at cdpr for the work and passion they put into their games, but holy shit is the management team there a complete disaster. They took some of the best artists in the industry and pushed em way passed their limits in the name of greed and hype. It truly showed with the release of cyberpunk, which could've easily been an 8 or 8.5 out of 10 for me if it weren't completely broken. Hopefully they pull a no mans sky and keep working to improve the game while learning from their mistakes, because the studio really does have a ton of potential.
My favourite part of this episode, I watched the bit where Greg was talking about being the 4th top rated game on steam, so I went and checked the steam top rated Its at #2 now, just behind Portal 2. Well deserved Supergiant Hades slaps, and thanks for the great series noclip
Still coming back to this documentary series from time to time because of the amazing quality and care put into this. Hades' fans are so lucky to be able to have this kind of unique insight on our favorite game and its amazing creators. I'm really hoping to see a similar format for Hades 2 !!
I wouldn't have even known about the game without the documentary! Thanks for sharing the journey... normally that isn't my type of game but seeing how much love went into it and seeing the positive reception it got, I will give it a shot! I hope you follow Supergiant again for the next projec.
An absolutely delightful documentary, thank you to all the people who contributed! I'm still salty that Hades got robbed at the Game Awards, should have won GotY and Best Direction in a landslide.
I was salty, but also I get it. Nothing was EVER going to beat The Last of Us Part 2 in it's categories. That game was pure award bait, plain and simple.
@@jameshaughney2327 That's why TLOU1, Uncharted 4, H:ZD, Death Stranding, & Ragnarok were all rousing successes at The Gam-- oh wait, no they lost, as the Sony pick typically does.
Watching this made me feel like I was part of the crew. lol. I was totally cheering while they're watching the game awards announcement. I am so proud!!
Congrats to Noclip and Supergiant! Hades is truly a great game and I’m so glad we got to follow their story and were able to see their success! It was interesting that they didn't know how well it would do knowing how far it went afterwards
I bought this game on switch, and it’s one of my favourite games of all time. I love Greek myth and games like binding of Isaac and this was a match made in heaven for me! I think I had 65 hours in and won’t doubt I’ll get to 100. Great game, great people, great video.
One of the best "making of" video game docs I've ever seen in my life. Just a blast from start to finish with loads of cool moments and fun people to follow. Thank you Noclip and I can safely say you've made a forever fan out of me!
every single accolade hades has gotten has been so well deserved and a massive kudos to noclip for documenting the process so thoroughly! it's been so fun to watch and i've been looking forward to the final episode for a while. now to play more hades.
I just recently rewatched all of the Hades - Developing Hell series and it was so much fun and interesting. Your documentaries are simply amazing! Keep up the great work :)
This whole series was incredible, and this final episode made me emotional thinking about teamwork, perseverance, success, and human connection. Thank you so much to everyone involved.
This documentary series is absolutely fantastic. 3 years covering a masterpiece, from it's beginning to the very conclusion. Had a blast watching it!!!
I am a fan of your narration but enjoyed the 'Storyville' treatment you gave this. I imagine it's a challenge to have the story be told without narration. Well done and thank you for making something informative and entertaining.
Thank you for this series! I discovered Supergiant's games last spring and finding stories of their creation as told by the devs themselves was so fascinating and inspiring. I'm one of those players who resonated with Hades deeply in part because of the timing of its release - I'm not exaggerating in the slightest when I say Zag's endless optimism and motivation gave me strength when I needed it the most. Beautiful games, each of them. Can't wait to see what they do next.
Fantastic conclusion to a fantastic series. So happy for everyone involved and thankful. Hades was my favorite game of last year and this series gave incredible insights into the team and its development. I can't wait to see what's next!
man, going into this series i didn't think i could love hades more but you guys did it. Like the team just seems really cool. Hats off to anyone who worked on this game, and thanks to supergiant for opening their studio to the cameras of noclip.
This was a game that I got excited for with the first trailer, got bummed out by because it was early access, saw how good the early access already was and then decided to put it down until release because I knew I was going to love it. It still managed to exceed my expectations.
I know what he's talking about though. I really enjoyed the first 4 seasons of game of thrones but I don't go back and rewatch because the ending ruined it. Same for Lost, and a few other things, it just kind of feels pointless if you don't have a good ending to look forward to.
@@DjokovicIsOurLordAndSaviour I still can't figure out how anyone was surprised or upset by the ending. Like when Ned got his head cut off everyone was like "whoa this show defies our expectations" and yet when Daenerys goes fucking crazy and burns the world down which was explicitly telegraphed in like S1 E5 everyone loses their shit
@@NickHunter There's nothing wrong with Dany going crazy but the entire of season 8 was just terrible. The drop in quality was unbelievable. But, you can't really blame them when the books were supposed to have been finished and even now we're miles off that being the case.
Sad to see this series come to an end, but it was amazing. The whole experience and then the game itself, were both amazing. I hope that when Supergiant starts production on their next game you guys can follow them again. Truly incredible work on both parts! :)
I hope you all take a moment to recognize what a great documentary you’ve put out, and just feel proud of your amazing work. Great documentary, great game, great developer, what a ride it’s been. Thanks guys.
Respect the time of people that work on a game, make them work on something they love, put care an thought into it, bam, an incredible success. Who would've thought? Triple A studios should take note.
There are no clip videos and every once in a few years there are noclip videos about supergiant games and it just feels like meeting a family you really love. Kinda weird to say that but the people working there are on my top wanna work with list. They always stay grounded and are so humble and at the same time really great at what they are doing. Guys, keep it on.
A massive thanks to all our patrons who funded us to the point where we felt confident taking the dive on producing a series over two and a half years. And thanks to all of you for watching this whole time. We've had a blast working on Developing Hell. It was a great learning experience on how games are made, and how to produce a docu-series. Hopefully we have more of these in our future. Thanks again. Become a Patron in 2021! patreon.com/noclip
You guys did one HELL of a job!
Spectacular work to both the NoClip team and Supergiant. This has been a really enjoyable and insightful series and I'd love to see you do another one just like this with another studio.
Continue making amazing docs guys. Looking forward to Prey & Dishonored docs. These docs made me buy hades.
Great documentary, absolutely loved it!
For the love of god and everything that is holy - PLEASE follow them for their next game(s) as well!!! I'm routing for them so much!! But nonetheless your documentation is/was incredible!!!!!
everyones always “Ares this” “Thanatos that” - you know what’s REALLY the sexiest part of hades?
The fact that it was made with no crunch.
Nothing sexier than a healthy work environment.
nothing sexier than common decency.
@@jimmyclark9914 Consent really is the kinkiest -non- fetiche
You said it all :]
I think it comes out in the design as well.
I guarantee you that there were long hours, longer than 8h a day. Or is it only crunch when it's management-mandated? Cos most long hours aren't, but they're still long hours.
Once you've seen enough documentaries, you just keep waiting for that dark second act to hit, but this is such a positive story, there is no second act. It's only up, Up, UP!
Supergiant games deserve all the ups in the world.
well, this documentary wasn't a tragic one at all. It was a really good & positive one a game I looked forward to with no expectations and did really well that I personally enjoy!
The dark second act was the patch not downloading but then it turning out everything was fine lol
@@TheCanipaEffect A whole half hour where the game was on a pre-release version. such tragedy, such drama.
does the break in part count as one?
What Amir said at the end about being careful in attributing the success of a project to something specific that you did is incredibly poignant, very self-aware, and extremely humble. Love that he's got such a bird's eye view on this, because a lot of other creators would've given into that temptation and read off a list of reasons why they finally nailed it with this game and how they've mastered their craft. Amir's response shows that he knows that the team is going to keep growing and better itself, and they're all better off for it 👏
Well Said
Yeah that part really stuck with me, very inspiring.
It's the mannerism of a true artist... they never see the brilliance of their creations; that's up to the interpreter... they only see the flaws and how to make those better.
DEAR SUPERGIANT: I WOULD PURCHASE THE SHADE EMOTE COASTERS, THANKS.
Me too, I got these cheap pikman 3 coasters and I don't even play pikman. I want those nice coasters man.
o/
I REALLY wish they'd partner with like Fangamer so I could get some dope shirts, hoodie, and like... Plushes of the keepsakes? Plush bouldy would be great.
@@turpskadey I’d also love to see a Dusa-shaped dog toy, since she comments on Cerberus confusing her for a ball.
I'm sayin tho! I'd buy anything with the shade or Dusa on it
I lost my dad to covid in October 2020. It was devastating... and I remember staying in a little hotel in Ann Arbor trying to keep it together. I saw Hades on the Nintendo eShop. I've played every Super Giant game in the past and they were always enjoyable. That autumn and winter had been rough as hell... but I played Hades whenever I had free time and somehow found myself having fun, even laughing sometimes. Its a really good game... and it got me through. For that, I am truly thankful.
Thanks so much for sharing. Please accept out deepest condolences for your loss.
@@NoclipDocs I didn't expect any response, but thank you so much. Sadly, with so much loss going on these days, there has to be a lot of other folks with stories similar to mine. Stay safe out there. 🫂
I am SOOOOO happy this studio is doing so well. Not a single bad game, no drama, no misstreatment of employees, they are super sweet with the community... Praying for more studios like them and I can't wait to see what their next masterpiece will be
Greg Kasavin! From one of the best people in the history of GameSpot to one of the best current writers in video games - a legend!
Amen. I still remember his Oblivion livestream when the fire alarm went off
Maybe Greg will have enough money now to move out of his luggage closet / attic.
@@NoclipDocs And a reply from the other best person in the history of GameSpot! Thanks Danny, you're awesome.
still remember him from them Gamespot reviews. yeah his reviews were spot on
Greg's review of Disgaea for the PS2 made me give it a try and I fell in love with the whole series from then on. Cannot thank him enough for his eloquent words.
I'm selfish for wanting this but in my heart of hearts, after experiencing 30 hours of Hades II in early access. I'm really hoping that Hades II: Return to Hell is another Noclip mini series. I wonder about Amir and Greg and everyone at Supergiant when they see that Hades II in Early Access on Steam has already passed their peak players of Hades on Steam. I have no doubt that when Hades II launches 1.0, it'll be an achievement even rivaling that of the original Hades. Grateful to Noclip forever preserving this time capsule to what is now a beloved franchise.
The sheer *reverence* in their voice when they said "it's next to you know...Mario and Zelda in reviews". That is one hell of a statement to be able to make as a developer.
Not to mention that they're a studio of 20 people.
I can certainly understand how floored they were to the point of still not being able to grasp the enormity of it all. All of a sudden, your little studio just stepped inside the premier inner circle, and everyone welcomed you with open arms. An inner circle that has the likes of characters that have been recognizable by the majority of the population, gamers and non-gamers alike, for decades.
How do you honestly react to something like that?
@@Electru522 And beating out Tsushima and Doom fucking Eternal for best action game... I'd be like "OK I'ma retire now" lol
The IRONY of a game called Hades having absolutely no part in what we call "development hell".
Before starting the documentary i didn't get it and thought developing the game had been hell and it was a documentary about crunch...Oh how wrong I was
The indignation when a game made without crunch goes head to-head with the worst of crunch culture for Best Direction at The Game Awards, and the crunch game wins.
@@Pan_Z Dice is a better standard for good award shows. TGA is a mess from start to finish.
@@SamC77 It just sucks because The Game Awards is, by far, the most popular, despite being obviously influenced by publishers.
Here, from The Game Award's Wikipedia page:
The Game Awards has an advisory committee which includes representatives from hardware manufacturers Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo, and AMD, along with several game publishers. This committee selects around thirty influential video game news organizations that are able to nominate and subsequently vote on the video games in several categories. The advisory committee otherwise does not participate in the nomination or voting process. During the nomination round, each of the news outlets provides a list of games in several categories; games for the esports-related categories are chosen by a specific subset of these outlets. The committee compiles the nominations and selects the most-nominated games for voting by these same outlets.... Winners are determined by a blended vote between the voting jury (90%) and public fan voting (10%) via social media.
Publishers select the voting panel. It's not hard to imagine they pick people that will vote for their games. It's why The Last of Us 2 wins awards, even nonsensical ones, while other games don't even make the nominees. Despite being total bs, these awards shows are great marketing for games. Watching games that deserve the spotlight denied it sucks.
@@Pan_Z the categories they have, the nominations and winners are already a HUGE clue that this voting committee is mostly out of touch with gaming and the voting is all on game popularity, not the actual criteria for the award. who the hell is "Newsweek" or "LA times" in gaming?? every "best ongoing game" has always been a joke there were always a better title than what 'won', and remember Destiny2 was nominated the same YEAR it released for "ongoing" game.
TGA's nominations and voting and setup is a joke from start to finish. no respectable award show would run the award ceremony in the same year and disrespect the games from that year that released shortly before or after the ceremony. the fact that PUBG or death stranding were nominations is too much.
GOTY should always be 2 things: 1 - made well and not buggy, 2 - and greatly recieved/fun. PUBG and death stranding are only 1 of those things listed. we have Dice for the real game awards, no focus on esports, or twitch thots, or out of touch voting committee or running the show in the SAME YEAR. TGA is like Nascar for games, very low standards.
"What type of game do you wanna make next?"
"What type of game do WE wanna make next, not what I want to make."
I loved that response.
Yeah, I wish my boss was a bit more like that haha.
Such a wonderful, inspiring watch. Thanks Noclip and Supergiant!
As a student/indie dev it’s nice to see familiar faces in the comments. Thanks for all your tuts
@@__dane__ Same here, big fan!
Don't be inspired, this all about network and collusion. Your Indie game will go nowhere.
@@TestTest-tj9io Damn, talk about negative. Also Blackthornprod is pretty successful.
@@prcr364 What I said is true. This game is made by a game journalist, and you know how they operate. They are part of the same clique that made this video... which implicitly promotes the game itself. There is no meritocracy. You better have some important friends and be politically aligned with these people if you want them to notice you. They are evil.
It's so endearing to see Amir be so flustered and nervous about the launch, considering that this is their fourth game. Shows how much love and care Supergiant put into every single release. Excellent video as always, Noclip, and as for Hades, it's my GOTY :)
Every studio (big and small) have people who are deeply invested and nervous about launching a game, no matter how professional (like Supergiant) they might be. It's incredible exiting and nerve-wracking to put something out in to the void and wait, if the void cares.
As someone who works in games, this is 100% what happens for every launch. It's always nerve wracking to release a game into the world and see how people respond to it. About a week later the post-launch blues hit!
@@MagusakaJanus Unless the post-launch scramble to release a hotfix its first. The blues come in two parts - the first after initial release and the second when you move away from the project for good.
Imagine saying Hades is your GOTY with a straight face. Either you absolutely hate FPS games or you don't know a SINGLE thing about game design.
@@AliAli-zv3fy hater gonna hate XD
I got teary eyed watching them see their game get so many nominations. What a fantastic group of people
you're not the only one. they deserved every award
This series was truly a legendary boon
I remember super giant from bastion look hoe far they have become
For anyone watching, I thought you'd like to know it IS still crazily highly reviewed on Switch. Number 4 of all time on Metacritic, only behind BOTW, Odyssey, and Divinity: Original Sin II. Bloody well done, Supergiant!
Listed after Divinity, but with the same score!
@@joscelinvoronoy7100 larian studios and super giant games are the best studio in the decade
@@NeostormXLMAX Absolutely. Though I feel like Larian had to learn a bit more from mistakes they made in their older games, but damn, did they learn well and made some incredible improvements to already pretty good games. I'm so looking forward to the full release of BG3, even though I think that nothing they do will ever top the experience that Divinity II gave me.
ans it's number 2 highest rated on steam now
It's also at 15th (I think) on the switch's best selling list :D
This team just seem so authentic, well-intentioned, good people. And they're talented and hard-working to boot. They deserve all the success and more
"The question is will they like it"
*5 months later*
HELL YA WE DO
We really fucking do, this game is a gem, and I'm glad it's getting the recognition it deserves.
We like the game.
That Amir fellah is a straight-up role model.
This entire series was Incredible. The narrative, the openness of the studio, the production quality, the whole shebang. But I think my favorite part of the whole thing was seeing how Darren Korb’s facial hair was going to change from interview to interview.
"Will they like it"
Me, after playing 500 runs on Hades since end of October and engaging with all the fanart and awesome fanworks: good news
I'm so happy for Greg. He went from being a game reviewer on GameSpot to a writer at a new company, Supergiant Games. Back then they were working on Bastion. Their first title. That game was critically adored and praised. And look at him now. Creative Director of Supergiant Games where they have been releasing hit after hit. I'm happy for his journey in life and the successes he has attained.
After watching this final episode it has become clear to me none of this would have happened without the efforts of Haku
The game along with the 6-part documentary is the complete package. The documentary has perfectly complemented the game.
Hope you guys keep being part of such great projects in the future, as this is a great one for the CV.
I only just started watching this series this past weekend, and was delighted to see the last episode was just added yesterday. Phenomenal series, and great insight into Supergiant's process. I've not yet gotten to play Hades, but it's definitely at the top of my list now.
U gotta play it... in my humble opinion
it's one of those rare gems that you just need to drop every current game, and give it a shot
You won't be disappointed it's an absolute joy
This game is more fun the Witcher 3 and Mass Effect 2, my previous GOAT games. I didn’t have to make myself take breaks from those games. My gf has to pull me away from Hades
16:36 I can't believe how much tension I felt when Zag left the room without picking up the gold.
Being an indie studio isn't a statement about the size of a the studio but about how it treats its people and community. Stay an indie studio forever guys and we will always support you. Just keep making what you love no matter what the trends want .
Its isn't a statement about the size the studio because it just isn't. Indie is independant. Its a binary quality that describes whether or not the game is self published. The size of the studio is a completely different metric independent of independence. Some indie studios are AAA.
@@Wylie288 Indie and AAA are nebulous terms with no consistent usage, and thus no consistent definition. We can state what the "correct" one is all day but they're useless outside of what OP said
@@NoConsequenc3 That isn't true. They have meanings. Our community being a bunch of illiterate morons doesn't change that. They are not even gaming terms. AAA is a term that describes a certain budget in ALL of the enteratinment industry. Its a spectrum of money. Independant vs Published is a separate binary quality for ALL of the entertainment industry. Only gamers get these things wrong. That doesn't make them "nebulous". That make you a fucking idiot.
Honestly, the biggest challenge this studio is going to have for any future releases is managing expectations for both its fans but especially its staff. Take your time, do what you need to do and stay grounded and best of luck!
If anyone ever questions if games are art I'll point to this game and they will agree.
I still listen to Out of Taterus and God of the Dead several times a week and planning to do a Zagreus cosplay when that becomes possible again and if I can get rid of this corona 1 keg belly xD
“The temptation of success is to say your process must have been good because the game is good.”
“It’ll work out, we made Witcher 3.”
Different studios, different mindsets, different results. Stay humble folks.
So the Ancient Greeks were always right about hubris! :D
@@lederp42 surprisingly yes
@@lederp42 In a Bloomberg article titled "Inside Cyberpunk 2077's Disastrous Rollout" written by Jason Schreier, Published Jan 15, 2021.
"Some engineers realized that Cyberpunk was too complex of a game to run well on the seven-year-old consoles, with its city full of bustling crowds and hulking buildings. They said management dismissed their concerns, however, citing their success in pulling off The Witcher 3."
Same with dragon age 3 being a successful game despite troubled production. The next one though.....
@@popintarts6362 As someone who has been playing on a top of the line PC and had almost no issues, idk how ANYONE can take one look at this game running on a good PC, which is how most of them must have seen it during development, and think it was possible to stuff this game into a PS4. This game is the new Crysis and you wanna put it on the console that couldn't even run Control at a playable framerate? That game wasn't open world and didn't have crowds of NPCs! Management got greedy looking at PS4 install base, there's no other explanation for it.
Make a game that pushes the absolute cutting edge of graphical fidelity
Ship on last generation hardware
Choose one
Incredible series for an incredible game
Thanks so much for watching!
"We never knew we were working on *that* game." This is why AAA fails.
Watched this part twice. So.. AWESOME to see the look in his eeyes
this is a telling response. nowadays some games are straightup created to be goty games and they don't even hit the mark often but bc of their hype they are hamfisted into being nominated anyway
I mean, TLOU2 knew full well what they were doing and they got all of those awards, so their Oscar bait worked.
They just focused on making fun titles and that's why these AAA titles just die
@@bennymountain1 in all fairness, they did deserve the accessibility award. the other ones tho?? up for debate
It's touching and funny to watch this play by play, to see them stressed and fretting about it.... and sitting in feb 2021 and knowing "hey, this was THE game of the year. y'all did it. it's gonna be okay."
Obsessed with Darren’s hair and beard on this episode. I’m always anticipating what kind of hair and beard he would sport in every episode release lol
22:05 Haku timestamp.
You're all welcome 😁
Love his tag Cat, Supergiant Games
It’s always good
31:03 Man tumbles timestamp..
A personal favourite.
@@phunkybunch673 🤣
Btw, for anyone wondering since I was just researching this a week or two ago. The sound tiles in the game studio are BAUX Acoustic Wood Wool hexagon tiles.
Not a sponsor or even own the product, just was staring at the tiles wondering why they looked familiar lol.
This is probably the actual greatest video game story of all time. I'm so happy for all the humans involved in the game, this doc series, and people like me who just played and enjoyed Hades.
the humans are great no doubt but let's give a shoutout to haku and amir's dog for moral support + cerberus noises :D
oh my god, supergiant needs to set up a store like, yesterday. those coasters are the cutest!
they do have a merch store on their official website! i think they're mostly selling the music track CDs and some posters and shirts, but i agree the coasters NEED to happen
Definitely! I want those coasters!
Nah, it would be too much of a responsibility for a small team like theirs.
@@kakoytazabar They already have a store
I need coasters. I need greek pottery. I need temporary tattoos. I need STICKERS
hades is a *masterpiece*. really hope this inspires more people to play pyre. i have a deep love for that game
I'm playing that next then
I played it before Hades and you can really tell a lot of the inspiration for Hades came from Pyre. Despite Hades being their absolute best game, Pyre holds a very special place in my heart
absolutely everyone please play pyre. it's such a unique and beautiful game
Pyre is a great game. It's one of the few games I tell people seeing it is not the same as playing it.
It's good but it's just a flavor of the month kind of game. The presentation is good but it's just any other indie roguelite game out there. Wonderfully executed but also nothing new.
"We should TWEET something" LMAO.
Thanks to everyone to help put this together, I feel so inspired. What a wonderful group of individuals
31:03 on zagerus' way to the surface, he trips while being recorded on camera. So embarassing, in fact, that well, you know what happens....
TAKEN BY THE STYX
Man, that "Greece" music when talking about going back to the office. That hit me. Lovely documentary!
It's all music from the game lol
@@tabernaclejones6115 yeah and the game is based on the Greek gods and the score reflects that
Watching these talented, hard-working, dedicated creatives respond to the positive reception to their work is like therapeutic. I'm so happy for them. They deserve it, Hades is incredible.
Such a feel good story and so happy for the team. What a game!
Gosh, the genuineness and humility of this team makes me love Hades even more
I haven't even watched the video yet and I'm so excited. I'm over 170 hours into Hades and I'm still coming across unique dialogue and still need to finish up a few upgrades.
Certainly the best game I played last year and thank you to NoClip for making me interested in this amazing game I would have over looked without this amazing series.
50:54 lmao, this perfectly encapsulates what happens when someone asks a software developer what sort of exciting stuff you did today
It's the BEST thing seeing the developers react to reviews and nominations from the game awards!!!
"What is ...Eurogamer? Essential? Do they give numbers?"
Loved that. Who are these arcane scribes from across the sea? Essential? Who cares, I WANT MY NUMBER!
Not to be a downer, but that part was a sobering reminder for me that reviews and awards DO matter. Hell, the people who make these games gain not an insignificant amount of validation from it. They even skipped straight to the score! This is why it's important for us as audiences to patronize only the reviewers and award shows that give games a fair shake - no more, no less. Because they do have power, and it's up to us to keep them on their toes and make sure that they wield that power properly.
@@iatwiatw They were looking at reviews for a game they'd just spent hundreds upon hundreds of hour pouring their hearts, souls, blood, sweat and tears into making. They're looking for the numbers because they *really wanna know if they liked it*. It's very different to looking at reviews as a consumer wondering if a game is worth buying.
It's funny though coz Essential is the best possible award on Eurogamer if you follow the website.
such a fantastic game, im over 200 hours in and still havent completely finished it, partly because i've been delaying the conclusion! Before this video I had little insight into the development process, thanks noclip!
Since the people at Supergiant probably watch this: Hades is awesome. Thanks for your amazing work!
A fantastic conclusion to a series! Well done, Noclip :) Kinda sad it's over haha
If it helps, you can pretend you're playing Hades and just start it over from Developing Hell #1!
@@nairocamilo That counts!
There is something truly amazing seeing Amir and the others smiling in this episode! Not ashamed to say it brought a couple tears to my eyes!
Man, I got a little teary-eyed towards the end. Such a wonderful, wonderful game. Something really special happened, and we are really blessed that you were there to document some part of it. Cheers to both Supergiant and NoClip!
This has been brilliant! I hope (pandemic permitting) you'll be able to do more embedded documentary series in the future! It's genuinely inspiring to see them struggle with a task and have doubts in one episode to see them accomplish it later on to critical acclaim.
How different the mood must have been at cdpr.
The only people to blame there are the production managers letting everything go too far.
@@Cosmitzian Absolutely. It's a shame, because some really good people have been putting an insane amount of work into this game, but the work and release policies crunched the game and exploited the programmers and designers so much that the game came out as a bugged, unfinished mess.
I will always have immense respect for the dev team at cdpr for the work and passion they put into their games, but holy shit is the management team there a complete disaster. They took some of the best artists in the industry and pushed em way passed their limits in the name of greed and hype. It truly showed with the release of cyberpunk, which could've easily been an 8 or 8.5 out of 10 for me if it weren't completely broken. Hopefully they pull a no mans sky and keep working to improve the game while learning from their mistakes, because the studio really does have a ton of potential.
300 hours later and Hades was the best Birthday gift I ever got myself. Period.
My favourite part of this episode, I watched the bit where Greg was talking about being the 4th top rated game on steam, so I went and checked the steam top rated
Its at #2 now, just behind Portal 2. Well deserved Supergiant Hades slaps, and thanks for the great series noclip
If anyone from Supergiant reads this, you 100% deserve the praise this game got
29:56 "We should start every Wendesday like that" God bless Darren Korb, that man is such a treasure XD
Still coming back to this documentary series from time to time because of the amazing quality and care put into this. Hades' fans are so lucky to be able to have this kind of unique insight on our favorite game and its amazing creators. I'm really hoping to see a similar format for Hades 2 !!
I wouldn't have even known about the game without the documentary! Thanks for sharing the journey... normally that isn't my type of game but seeing how much love went into it and seeing the positive reception it got, I will give it a shot! I hope you follow Supergiant again for the next projec.
Logan on the bridge of the Enterprise, lol, what a ham.
An absolutely delightful documentary, thank you to all the people who contributed!
I'm still salty that Hades got robbed at the Game Awards, should have won GotY and Best Direction in a landslide.
I was salty, but also I get it. Nothing was EVER going to beat The Last of Us Part 2 in it's categories. That game was pure award bait, plain and simple.
@@jameshaughney2327 That's why TLOU1, Uncharted 4, H:ZD, Death Stranding, & Ragnarok were all rousing successes at The Gam-- oh wait, no they lost, as the Sony pick typically does.
this documentary played a major part in me buying this game. good work guys
Hades is a hell of a game, and this right here was one hell of a docu-series.
I REALLY hope this channel has a documentary in the works for Hades 2. I absolutely loved their progress and insights.
Watching this made me feel like I was part of the crew. lol. I was totally cheering while they're watching the game awards announcement. I am so proud!!
its not just a good video game doc, its one of the best documentaries ive ever seen, worthy of constant rewatches. I never get sick of it.
Facts bro
Congrats to Noclip and Supergiant! Hades is truly a great game and I’m so glad we got to follow their story and were able to see their success!
It was interesting that they didn't know how well it would do knowing how far it went afterwards
I bought this game on switch, and it’s one of my favourite games of all time. I love Greek myth and games like binding of Isaac and this was a match made in heaven for me! I think I had 65 hours in and won’t doubt I’ll get to 100. Great game, great people, great video.
One of the best "making of" video game docs I've ever seen in my life. Just a blast from start to finish with loads of cool moments and fun people to follow. Thank you Noclip and I can safely say you've made a forever fan out of me!
Took the time to finally watch this series after the big reveal at the 2022 Game Awards. Their next game? HADES 2!!!
Genuinely almost cried tears of joy from all of the game of the year and award reactions
Supergiant deserves it so much ♥️
every single accolade hades has gotten has been so well deserved and a massive kudos to noclip for documenting the process so thoroughly! it's been so fun to watch and i've been looking forward to the final episode for a while. now to play more hades.
I just recently rewatched all of the Hades - Developing Hell series and it was so much fun and interesting. Your documentaries are simply amazing! Keep up the great work :)
This whole series was incredible, and this final episode made me emotional thinking about teamwork, perseverance, success, and human connection. Thank you so much to everyone involved.
Amir during video conferencing: 🚶🏾♂️
i love this comment thank you
This documentary series is absolutely fantastic. 3 years covering a masterpiece, from it's beginning to the very conclusion. Had a blast watching it!!!
The Easy Allies cameo reminded me that Brandon Jones' voiceovers are the best in the industry.
I am a fan of your narration but enjoyed the 'Storyville' treatment you gave this. I imagine it's a challenge to have the story be told without narration. Well done and thank you for making something informative and entertaining.
Thank you for this series! I discovered Supergiant's games last spring and finding stories of their creation as told by the devs themselves was so fascinating and inspiring. I'm one of those players who resonated with Hades deeply in part because of the timing of its release - I'm not exaggerating in the slightest when I say Zag's endless optimism and motivation gave me strength when I needed it the most. Beautiful games, each of them. Can't wait to see what they do next.
That bunny with a sword in Greg's home office
Fantastic conclusion to a fantastic series. So happy for everyone involved and thankful. Hades was my favorite game of last year and this series gave incredible insights into the team and its development. I can't wait to see what's next!
The webcam issues and doorbell moment was just like...oooh I feel that in my soul. Ready to hit the mute button on the universe lol
He was so stoic but you can feel the tension lol
man, going into this series i didn't think i could love hades more but you guys did it. Like the team just seems really cool. Hats off to anyone who worked on this game, and thanks to supergiant for opening their studio to the cameras of noclip.
Best game I've played in a while. Pure, unadultered videogame bliss.
Oh yeah, it's back! Love this series though i may be biased since Hades is my GOTY for sure.
This was a game that I got excited for with the first trailer, got bummed out by because it was early access, saw how good the early access already was and then decided to put it down until release because I knew I was going to love it. It still managed to exceed my expectations.
Ha when he talked about the ending of a show, he was totally talking about Game of thrones
I know what he's talking about though. I really enjoyed the first 4 seasons of game of thrones but I don't go back and rewatch because the ending ruined it. Same for Lost, and a few other things, it just kind of feels pointless if you don't have a good ending to look forward to.
@@MattDunnachie I get what he means too honestly even up to season 6 I was heavily invested in Game of Thrones but the ending was really beyond bad.
@@DjokovicIsOurLordAndSaviour I still can't figure out how anyone was surprised or upset by the ending. Like when Ned got his head cut off everyone was like "whoa this show defies our expectations" and yet when Daenerys goes fucking crazy and burns the world down which was explicitly telegraphed in like S1 E5 everyone loses their shit
@@NickHunter There's nothing wrong with Dany going crazy but the entire of season 8 was just terrible. The drop in quality was unbelievable. But, you can't really blame them when the books were supposed to have been finished and even now we're miles off that being the case.
@@DjokovicIsOurLordAndSaviour I really enjoyed it, maybe I'm a bit daft lol
One of the best if not the best documentary I have ever seen. Thank you Noclip and Supergiant Games.
Sad to see this series come to an end, but it was amazing. The whole experience and then the game itself, were both amazing. I hope that when Supergiant starts production on their next game you guys can follow them again. Truly incredible work on both parts! :)
Incredible video- I'm so glad you could share all of this with us. Extremely deserved.
Yeah baby that's what we've been waiting for !
I hope you all take a moment to recognize what a great documentary you’ve put out, and just feel proud of your amazing work.
Great documentary, great game, great developer, what a ride it’s been. Thanks guys.
Respect the time of people that work on a game, make them work on something they love, put care an thought into it, bam, an incredible success.
Who would've thought?
Triple A studios should take note.
"the question is - will they like it? WILL THEY LIKE IT?"
yes, they will, we all do!!!
There are no clip videos and every once in a few years there are noclip videos about supergiant games and it just feels like meeting a family you really love. Kinda weird to say that but the people working there are on my top wanna work with list. They always stay grounded and are so humble and at the same time really great at what they are doing. Guys, keep it on.
I don't know how this channel only has 600k subs. Every person who is (or ever has been) into games should be here.