Great Podcast ever!! we need to talk with these type of people whose are working on leadership level. you can make a separate playlist of multiple VC's of different universities from all over Pakistan for giving insights of education. What we will have to do in future and what's going on in the different universities for betterment of our new generations!
As NED VC' said, we have only one export thing which we can do easily is brain drain! I agree with him because we have large source of remittance for bringing dollars in Pakistan. we just need to build trust of overseas for growing remittance.
This is a double edged sword. Remittances only arrive when you have family members living here. Once the entire family immigrates from Pakistan there won't be any remittances. It might not be a problem now but if we don't focus on policies to bring investments back to Pakistan the remittances will stop sooner or later.
Unfortunately Sarosh sb is also saying the usual stuff: education system, leadership, tarbiat, bla blah. We need people who are well aware of the past follies and the changing realities of time. Like Shabbar Zaidi.
Great institution of Pakistan in terms of technical education. Still room of improvment needed in terms of faculty members and quality of education. Still top institute of sindh and pakistan!!
now i also have doubts the story Mr.VC was telling of Pakistani to sold something US in billions, if we investigate and go deeper I believe situation will be opposite of what he is feeling proud NED has nothing to do of what that guy achieved.
Amazing podcast. Every single word are worthy to be noted. A suggestion!!!! please add sub titles in English or urdu, something i missing their words , so please add subtitles in your videos.
Very true stories and facts decoded by Honorable VC not everyone had the audacity to state real facts of today's Pakistani universities and their faculties. The only thing we export is the youth.
Main problem with the education system is the focus on getting more and more marks in exams. To get into NED you need to score more and more and hence the growth of Tution etc. Can a new system of evaluating students be developed?
NED kay graduates contacted myself for Jobs. They are jobless also, VC should accept the reality. This is sweeping statement that NED graduates are not jobless. :-) 😁
Great podcast!❤️❤️ I have a question. I've noticed that NED University and Karachi University receive a lot of hype, and their students seem to enjoy a certain level of prestige. As a student of Federal Urdu University, I wonder why my university is not listed among the top choices of big companies. Why don't employers consider my university? What have we done wrong as students? We face severe political clashes in our university, which makes things even harder. Both KU and NED are government universities, just like Federal Urdu University, but why is there such a significant difference in their reputation and industry recognition?
I don't know about KU but I can say that the environment NED provides to its student is way better than any other institute in Sindh. Here, you will not find any political union of students such as PSF, APMSO etc. They are curse and it is the biggest reason why our province universities lacks behind Punjab. Secondly, NED course content, management, resources are better.
People are not willing to comeback who left the country. As far as remittances are concerned, people are not sending money to Pakistan also, only labor class and some middle class sending money for expenses only. The main chunk of money is kept out by overseas Pakistanis, rather people have taken/repatriated their money back from Roshan Digital Account as well. Situation is very bad but the Dilemma is that our Academician have no IDEA about it and they are living in their Ideal World.
As VC mentioned that at ninetees due to unavailability of engineering universities at Balochistan,Baloch and Pashtoon students came at NED to study. But now still we don't have any prestigious engineering institution in our province,so why there are only four seats available for Balochistan students? I think NED should grant many seats to Balochistan's students.
🔻ap developed country ke kya baat kar rahay hain, India ka education system Pakistan sy boht behtar hai. Wahan ka student or top university grads Pakistan sy kahen behtar knowledgeable intelligent or smart hai.
This is coz of their coaching system which is completely disassociated from their government and private based education system/ institutions ….the effort which they spend in grade twelve to pass the entry test is what has made india great in stem….this is only matched by China and other East Asian country, even west has no equivalent to it
He expressed the mindset of NED Engineer, he himself didn't see what Engineering universities should deliver to the market.. He spent all his life inside the university boundry wall, which is why he said skills are not necessary 😂😂😂
I know Sindh Govt Functionalities and Education Ministry and Schools in detail run by Govt in Sindh. A lot of Ghost Schools are there and Quality of Teachers are worst. VC statement is fullish about Govt Schools in Sindh that these Schools are comparable with Private Schools. VC HAVE UTTERED JOKE OF THE CENTURY.
Chancellor saheb serf aam awaam ko ghalat tehra rahey hien q k s becharey ko pata hai k agr khul k dil ka bharas nekala tu mushkelat se duchar hu jawonga
Most useless testing service is NTS and after studying a very specific domain for getting graduate admission you have to pass a assement test which is general? Why? This does not even makes sense
VC said, NED ka bacha apko farigh nh milega, is m NED ka kia kamal hr bnda university s nikal k apne hisab s kahain bhi fit hojata h ya khaapp jata h farigh to koi nh beth ta sawal ye h k NED k engineer n market m kia dia ? DOW and other medical institute produce doctors, IBA produce management experts that we can see in market. where are the engineers ???? they graduated from NED and start hunting white collar JOB because they spend 4 years by reading books no hands on experience and like NED boss said skill = labor (so they avoided being a labor instead of learning practical things which is the core area of any engineer) i saw 90% engineers to feel just proud of NEDIAN but what they deliver as engineer ZERO.
In USA I have seen myself that that society is skill based already. VC is so ignorant that he studied in USA and he dont know about this fact 😇 that in USA more than 50% jobs these days are skill based and I have personally visited the whole USA in all states and witnessed it myself many times.
Degree is very important let me give you an perfect example in Saudi Arabia they have created the Certification bodies for Engineering,Accounting & Medical Professions. if you want to practice in Saudi Arabia you have to registered with relevant body with a degree. if you have no degree you will be rejected on the Spot.
NED nay politician peda kiye, civil service officer peda kiye,,, sport man peda kiye,,, advocate peda ager Nahi peda kiye tu achay engineers dusri taraf IIT India ko daiklu aur fr in kabari bazaar k kabari ko.
@@JKCollections Let me tell you and others one more thing. I'm currently in third year in NED University. All the labs he is talking about have many ongoing projects, but there are zero involvement from students due to the hectic time tables. I'm very active in societies, but he and the administration didn't give us the permission to conduct a Debating Competition. The administration and teachers of NED University is not supportive at all when it comes to co-curricular activities. @raftarnow kindly don't invite these kind of people again, flawed podcast!
Mera sawal ye hai k kya establishment ne Pakistan mai koyee leadership develop karney k leye chora hai jaha n ko samajh ajaye k ye leader tu awaam mai publicity ley raha hai os ko buhut jaldee khatam kar daity hein q k ye Pakistan ko tarraqee pe nahee lana chahty i am talking about establishment tu pher kes tarha Pakistan ka education system theek hu jayega ya kuch aur
at one point host asked if someone has tons of knowledge as per VC but do not know how to execute due to lack of skills so then what to do ! he replied m bhi to yahan tak agya na baten krty krty ??hahahahaahaha aray bhai ab sab apki trh VC to ng lg jainge engineering jk bad ap n bhi koi teer nh mara VC lg k engineering ka ye outcome nh hota kisi society m in sahab ka wese jo background btaya h us s yehi lgta h inky parents NED m hi hoty thy 50 60 saal pehle unhi k pawway ye sahb university m rehty rahy wahin admission mil gya bahar ki dunya kabhi dekhi nh bus m dhakkay khaye nh is banday ko kia pta reality industry ki or baten kra lo host masomiat s shakal dekh ra sawal kuch jawab kuch
Host asked what NED produced...he said Murad ali shah, Saeed Anwar and Humsafar serial writer 😂😂. These guys didn’t get anything from NED what they were doing in his own life.
Faisal Waheed is emerging as the best podcaster. He listens and asks very pertinent questions.
Vice chancler ka fund rok jaye ga ager Pakistan people party ko tanqed ki 😂😂😂
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Khud bhai sb parchi per ayye hn
Great podcast! Now bring someone from PAEC to talk about nuclear power and grid issues with Pakistan
What a great idea!
Great Podcast ever!! we need to talk with these type of people whose are working on leadership level. you can make a separate playlist of multiple VC's of different universities from all over Pakistan for giving insights of education. What we will have to do in future and what's going on in the different universities for betterment of our new generations!
Keep going
As NED VC' said, we have only one export thing which we can do easily is brain drain! I agree with him because we have large source of remittance for bringing dollars in Pakistan. we just need to build trust of overseas for growing remittance.
This is a double edged sword. Remittances only arrive when you have family members living here. Once the entire family immigrates from Pakistan there won't be any remittances. It might not be a problem now but if we don't focus on policies to bring investments back to Pakistan the remittances will stop sooner or later.
Aur murad Ali shah jsa logo pr agr Ned proud krti ha to it's matter of shame
Great wisdoms shared by the guest. Thanks.
Unfortunately Sarosh sb is also saying the usual stuff: education system, leadership, tarbiat, bla blah. We need people who are well aware of the past follies and the changing realities of time. Like Shabbar Zaidi.
Totally agreed
Great institution of Pakistan in terms of technical education. Still room of improvment needed in terms of faculty members and quality of education. Still top institute of sindh and pakistan!!
now i also have doubts the story Mr.VC was telling of Pakistani to sold something US in billions, if we investigate and go deeper I believe situation will be opposite of what he is feeling proud NED has nothing to do of what that guy achieved.
Great podcast
Amazing podcast. Every single word are worthy to be noted.
A suggestion!!!!
please add sub titles in English or urdu, something i missing their words , so please add subtitles in your videos.
agreed!👍🏻
so add some the videos chapters like topics intervals as do in the professional podcasts
Please on private medica colleges l?.....why so high fee ..😢
Very true stories and facts decoded by Honorable VC not everyone had the audacity to state real facts of today's Pakistani universities and their faculties. The only thing we export is the youth.
Main problem with the education system is the focus on getting more and more marks in exams. To get into NED you need to score more and more and hence the growth of Tution etc. Can a new system of evaluating students be developed?
Great podcast..
Ameer Jamaat-e-Islami #HafizNaeem is also NED Graduate ❣️
Teacher ko CSS pass kar k job de jaien or salary b on ki Tarah.
Suparco ka interview karain
NED kay graduates contacted myself for Jobs. They are jobless also, VC should accept the reality. This is sweeping statement that NED graduates are not jobless. :-) 😁
Great podcast!❤️❤️ I have a question. I've noticed that NED University and Karachi University receive a lot of hype, and their students seem to enjoy a certain level of prestige. As a student of Federal Urdu University, I wonder why my university is not listed among the top choices of big companies. Why don't employers consider my university? What have we done wrong as students? We face severe political clashes in our university, which makes things even harder. Both KU and NED are government universities, just like Federal Urdu University, but why is there such a significant difference in their reputation and industry recognition?
I don't know about KU but I can say that the environment NED provides to its student is way better than any other institute in Sindh. Here, you will not find any political union of students such as PSF, APMSO etc. They are curse and it is the biggest reason why our province universities lacks behind Punjab.
Secondly, NED course content, management, resources are better.
People are not willing to comeback who left the country. As far as remittances are concerned, people are not sending money to Pakistan also, only labor class and some middle class sending money for expenses only. The main chunk of money is kept out by overseas Pakistanis, rather people have taken/repatriated their money back from Roshan Digital Account as well. Situation is very bad but the Dilemma is that our Academician have no IDEA about it and they are living in their Ideal World.
As VC mentioned that at ninetees due to unavailability of engineering universities at Balochistan,Baloch and Pashtoon students came at NED to study. But now still we don't have any prestigious engineering institution in our province,so why there are only four seats available for Balochistan students? I think NED should grant many seats to Balochistan's students.
🔻ap developed country ke kya baat kar rahay hain, India ka education system Pakistan sy boht behtar hai. Wahan ka student or top university grads Pakistan sy kahen behtar knowledgeable intelligent or smart hai.
This is coz of their coaching system which is completely disassociated from their government and private based education system/ institutions ….the effort which they spend in grade twelve to pass the entry test is what has made india great in stem….this is only matched by China and other East Asian country, even west has no equivalent to it
Good podcast. Try to being other educationist / vice chancellors to revive our educational standards.
He expressed the mindset of NED Engineer, he himself didn't see what Engineering universities should deliver to the market..
He spent all his life inside the university boundry wall, which is why he said skills are not necessary 😂😂😂
Honestly this university is run by Kala Angrez.I know NED staff and graduates.Nothing exceptional.Only Classism and trash.
There are very less jobs in Pakistan. Pakistan is rub by TEAM B these days. TEAM A is already migrated and are migrating these days on a fast pace.
CORRECTION.....Pakistan jab bana.....hargiz nahi PAKISTAN bana nahi, PAKISTAN Jab GHULAAM bana
Msc kya huwa handa ned mn adhoc per resgistrar hai...Ned mn bhht se log adhoc per hain...
I know Sindh Govt Functionalities and Education Ministry and Schools in detail run by Govt in Sindh. A lot of Ghost Schools are there and Quality of Teachers are worst. VC statement is fullish about Govt Schools in Sindh that these Schools are comparable with Private Schools. VC HAVE UTTERED JOKE OF THE CENTURY.
America Europe is land of opportunities wo log wha ja KR successful bne na k ned k aluminai ki wja sa
Chancellor saheb serf aam awaam ko ghalat tehra rahey hien q k s becharey ko pata hai k agr khul k dil ka bharas nekala tu mushkelat se duchar hu jawonga
Most useless testing service is NTS and after studying a very specific domain for getting graduate admission you have to pass a assement test which is general? Why?
This does not even makes sense
VC said, NED ka bacha apko farigh nh milega, is m NED ka kia kamal hr bnda university s nikal k apne hisab s kahain bhi fit hojata h ya khaapp jata h farigh to koi nh beth ta
sawal ye h k NED k engineer n market m kia dia ? DOW and other medical institute produce doctors, IBA produce management experts that we can see in market. where are the engineers ???? they graduated from NED and start hunting white collar JOB because they spend 4 years by reading books no hands on experience and like NED boss said skill = labor (so they avoided being a labor instead of learning practical things which is the core area of any engineer) i saw 90% engineers to feel just proud of NEDIAN but what they deliver as engineer ZERO.
In USA I have seen myself that that society is skill based already. VC is so ignorant that he studied in USA and he dont know about this fact 😇 that in USA more than 50% jobs these days are skill based and I have personally visited the whole USA in all states and witnessed it myself many times.
Why this podcast is not on official channel??
Muun ka fire VC. No Vision only getting away like a scapegoat.
Plz bring VCs of Dow and jsmu in podcasts
The VC seems to be Tout of Sindh Government.
35 Arab ka bugget say saeed ghaini nay 2 lac k desk banay thay. Kisi ko yad h 😂😂😂😂
Degree is very important let me give you an perfect example in Saudi Arabia they have created the Certification bodies for Engineering,Accounting & Medical Professions. if you want to practice in Saudi Arabia you have to registered with relevant body with a degree. if you have no degree you will be rejected on the Spot.
NED nay politician peda kiye, civil service officer peda kiye,,, sport man peda kiye,,, advocate peda ager Nahi peda kiye tu achay engineers dusri taraf IIT India ko daiklu aur fr in kabari bazaar k kabari ko.
He is just diplomatically correct all the time. Not an honest podcast by guest. Really disappointed by Dr. Sarosh!
Btw, I myself is an NEDian!
You right, he is trying to say in safe mode only
@@JKCollections Let me tell you and others one more thing. I'm currently in third year in NED University. All the labs he is talking about have many ongoing projects, but there are zero involvement from students due to the hectic time tables. I'm very active in societies, but he and the administration didn't give us the permission to conduct a Debating Competition. The administration and teachers of NED University is not supportive at all when it comes to co-curricular activities.
@raftarnow kindly don't invite these kind of people again, flawed podcast!
Great Podcast! What about student unions?
Please make a video on issb please
3:26 chitral's and gilgit's literacy rate is very high because of Prince Karim Aga Khan and his services for development of people
Suna he sarosh sahab ne audi rakhi he sarkari he ya zati koi info nahin he
Kesi univesity ho ge jis m wo kanjar log people party ky dally prhty rahy ....
7:17
Mera sawal ye hai k kya establishment ne Pakistan mai koyee leadership develop karney k leye chora hai jaha n ko samajh ajaye k ye leader tu awaam mai publicity ley raha hai os ko buhut jaldee khatam kar daity hein q k ye Pakistan ko tarraqee pe nahee lana chahty i am talking about establishment tu pher kes tarha Pakistan ka education system theek hu jayega ya kuch aur
NED aur Pakistan engineering council ki gatiaa soch aur gatiaa policy ki waja se Pakistan ka ye haal hay
Host need to have their Home work done properly
He is mixing skills with knowledge and this concept of technical labor is completely absurd and wrong.
40:00
Ghost school k teacher ko salary to daini h is liye 35 Arab rakhay Hain Sindh government wah teray
Kindly replace LODHI by LODI.
On various occasions, he contradicts his own statements.
For Doctors also, his opinion is wrong.
His opinion about Brain Drain is also childish.
#HafizNaeem is Also graduated from NED university 💯
I completely disagree with him skill are mandatory and knowledge is secondary
But you refine your skill through knowledge and knowledge is here to change, so does your skill increamently
Skill jump starts your career, knowledge leaps your career 5x, 10x, 50x etc. Both are mandatory.
This is they have great ideas and talk big but don’t have any skills to implement anything
at one point host asked if someone has tons of knowledge as per VC but do not know how to execute due to lack of skills so then what to do ! he replied m bhi to yahan tak agya na baten krty krty ??hahahahaahaha
aray bhai ab sab apki trh VC to ng lg jainge engineering jk bad ap n bhi koi teer nh mara VC lg k engineering ka ye outcome nh hota kisi society m
in sahab ka wese jo background btaya h us s yehi lgta h inky parents NED m hi hoty thy 50 60 saal pehle unhi k pawway ye sahb university m rehty rahy wahin admission mil gya bahar ki dunya kabhi dekhi nh bus m dhakkay khaye nh is banday ko kia pta reality industry ki or baten kra lo
host masomiat s shakal dekh ra sawal kuch jawab kuch
Host asked what NED produced...he said Murad ali shah, Saeed Anwar and Humsafar serial writer 😂😂.
These guys didn’t get anything from NED what they were doing in his own life.
Bakwas karaha hai hrmzada