Capturing Peace Sells... Guitar Tone - Marshall DSL20 & Seymour Duncan Thrash Factor Pickups
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- What an amazing album and difficult tone to try and capture. I'm loving the Jackson KV with the Thrash Factors, I wish Jackson would do another run of KV's with the fixed kahler bridge and these pickups stock... I wouldn't be able to resist.
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Chris Poland solos are out of this world on this record. I think he was the best complementary to Dave guitar styles. Jazz and metal blended really well
He’s one guitar player that I’ve never been able to cover. His fluid effortless style and interesting phrasing puts him right up there. Amazing player and to end up with Peace sells and rust in peace from one band is crazy
@@LambChopper678 Yes, I love watching Chris Poland play!
True Story, my buddy and I met Chris in the early 80’s,he would come by the house and Jam and listen to us playing. He gave my friend a BC Rich Guitar, said it came out of a Dumpster, and that Dave smashed the Guitar in a fit of Rage. It had a broken Off Headstock that was repaired, wonder what that thing is worth now? Great Playing and Tone LC!
I bought a Chris Poland solo project instrumental CD. Pretty good !
Firing Chris was one of Daves worst decisions. Chris was and still is an incredible player
At this point I think you should be getting paid by Marshall since everyone now wants one after watching your videos! Seriously considering one for myself too - great tones!
Lol I wish
Yeah the price of these has gone up in the used market in recent months
Not sure how you do it but some TH-camrs have affiliate links for online shops maybe you could try that. I reckon you must have helped shift a fair few units.
@@aidenmcclendon5457 i think there was a shortage of new marshalls bc they couldn't get all the components they needed - covid screwed up supply chains worldwide
@@LambChopper678 Seriously you should. Have you done anything with an Axe Fx 3? Would love to see what you could come up with using that nuclear beast. Great mixes man, sounds really really good!
Yeah...Chris and Gar were so unique in their playing styles that gave Peace Sells a “swing” that has never been duplicated. Many consider Rust in Peace their magnum opus, but I think Peace Sells is their best work.
Correct
i remember sitting in my car at lunch break(in a factory) trying to learn those riffs back in '86 or '87! Time flies
Brilliant Lamb. In a modern guitar world dominated by plugins and modelers, you're recreating these classic, bedrock, metal tones with a few pedals, and a lot of time tinkering. Along with your awesome playing, these tone videos are a breath of fresh air. Thank you Lamb \m/
Epic as always, it would be interesting youthanasia tone
Youthanasia rocks!!!
I’ll come back to it, I don’t want to burn people out with Megadeth.😂
@@LambChopper678 You'll burn us out by _not_ playing stuff of them. 😉
@@LambChopper678 We would love you to emulate the reign in blood album tone.
@@LambChopper678 I wait for it your videos are the real deal!!!!!
I use this tone with my DSL 100 watt head in my band to compliment our lead guitarist’s Peavy 6505. Even beyond as a Peace Sells copy cat. It’s a great useable tone live
What settings do you use? I have the DSL 40 so it should be the same as your amp
Killing is my business is easily top three for me. I'd love to see you capture the tone for that album.
I’ve always thought that KiMB is the worst sounding metal album of all time. So bad that I’ve never really gotten into it.
@@mest_legendarisk I mean, Dave pretty much did the production because they had to fire their original producer due to the band spending almost half of their money on food and drugs
@@mest_legendarisk remaster sounds like it came out last week
@@yessir6427 Gonna have to check it out!
@Fabian Ansteg I love justice but wow, at least killing is my business had bass
The reason why this tone is so hard to replicate is because both Dave and Chris used a Tom Scholz Rockman to boost the Marshalls they were using at the time (probably JCM 800, JMP 2204) through older Marshall cabs with blackback speakers in them.
The My Last Words riff is one of the greatest of all time, well done
Dude, the fact that you were able to get in the ballpark is impressive. I've spent wayyyy too much time trying to get close with vst, tape emulator, ect.. and it is just crazy difficult. There is a weird combination of really airy highs, yet super dark, but cutting like a chainsaw. There is also very little gain as you pointed out, but it just feels so powerful, like you can feel the air move in the room. I just copied the RIP tone on my channel, and hope to get as close as you did with Peace Sells, but I doubt it. Your videos freaking rock, God Bless!
Easiest their best album, so thankful I grew up on this.
I'm really impressed with that AMP, I think I'm gonna get one, thanks to you. What are your speakers in cab?
The Mesa 1x12 cab I used has a v30 in it
Great Amp I use a greenback 1x12 for 70s and 80s rock and cream back 75 for metal with it.
I am actually looking into it, which speaker to buy, greenback or creamback. From videos I thought the greenback.. xD I am also looking for a metal sound and possibly good tone at low volume ;) so you definitely suggest the creamback?
V30 Recto Cab
I hope you get paid for these promotions cause I bought mine about 2 weeks ago and I fucken love it.
God I love Peace sells!!
What an album!!
There's literally no filler at all!
Peace Sells was my favourite album from the start and it still is. It's so amazing! I love how undergained the guitar is, it's just incredible writing and playing that makes it so heavy. And propably volume haha
Mine too !
The more I watch your videos, the more I want a DSL20HR for myself! Brutal!!
I got it mostly because of this gentleman - and it's unbelievably good, like really off this world.
@ I'm going to get it in a few months, I have no idea if a 2x12 or 1x12 cabin though. What would you suggest for playing at home?
@@sergiogalvan9404 At home, 1x12 will suffice, although I'm getting 2x12 in a month since it just gives a fuller sound in a band environment!
@ Cool! What are you getting? What cabin would you recommend me ?
@@sergiogalvan9404 I'm getting a Harley Benton V30 2x12, it's a really nice cab for a remarkable price, since V30 speakers alone cost more than the whole cab!
Bro I just discovered your videos and I'm totally binging on the catalog! I'm 42 and these are all the tones I grew up chasing and you got the keys to the city for sure! Great ear, great taste in music, great videos! Keep up the good work!!!!
God damn son. Even through my crappy laptop speakers you sounded like Mustaine.
Loved this video!
I listen to Peace Sells all the time, it is incredible to listen to.
Really goes to show Mustaine's genius song writing!
I play the songs all the time and now I am going to make this tone on my Marshall Code amp, its cool because I have different marshall amps (digitally) haha. Thanks!
I guess I just always took it for granted that Dave was playing normal power chords during the verses of Peace Sells. I was surprised to see and hear you play it that way, so I watched him closely on Rude Awakening. Sure enough, he does play it that way (about 1:23 for a clear shot). Thanks for showing me that, it always sounded off when I played it myself.
Spider chords
Mustaine and Poland used Marshall 100 Watts, Rockman 4-4, DeCuir cabinets with Celestion speakers. Poland also used a Fender Twin Reverb for some parts.
Is that the Tom Scholz Rockman thingy? I never would have thought Megadeth would use those.
@@yearginclarke they used em for clean parts and chris put them into the amps for his lead tones
@@defiantDreemurr Interesting. I've heard the original Rockman on youtube videos, and it does sound pretty cool. I know that Def Leppard used a Rockman for Hysteria.
My favorite megadeth album, amazing tone and superb songwritting. Thanks for this great episode!
Your tones are amazing. And your playing is excellent 🤘🏼
Have to be honest...sometimes i really just want to plug my guitar and just play with whatever i have handy...but u make us use our minds and ears much better...so many things involve...Marshall a must..looks like one of these iq box also...hope you can enlighten us with which one is the more flexible , popular and budget friendly...thanks so much @lambchopper...🤘🤘🤘🤘...you rock man!
Thank you brother, I think a boss sd-1 overdrive in the front and an mxr 6 band eq in the loop will conquer most metal tones. Both pedals are cheap and used with the DSL can achieve so many great tones. I think this little Marshall is the best amp I’ve ever had
@@LambChopper678 thanks for the great advice! i have the SD-1 (Love it), now i know which EQ
pedal will be on my hands 🦜🎸🤟
When I think Megadeth, I think Peace Sells without question. Some of the best party music, lots of summer memories with it and such great tracks and tones. Well done as always. :)
easily one of my favourite marshall tones! the difference between thin and crunchy omg, gets me going lol
You were spot on saying this is the holy grail of tone. And you could always get a Scott Ian King V and drop those pickups in it. It's got the Tune O Matic bridge. That guitar is on my list....one of these days.
It’s a nice looking guitar but 24 3/4 scale is a bit small. They are very cool though
Bad omen is a tricky song to play but it's fun aswell, imo peace sells was the perfect blend of heavy and fast for thrash metal. Job well done good sir 🤘
Spot on
Thanks for pimping this amp, i had to get one. Best investment yet. I was in 7th grade when this album came out. Turned me on to metal. Absolutely blew my mind. Metalhead ever since
I'd love an angry again cover and tone video! I think it's an underrated song of theirs. I have always really liked it even though it's not one of their heavier ones.
I was beguining to think you would'nt do a video this weekend, but here it is!
I love this videos. At this moment are my favourite videos! Would love to see you playing some Heathen!
Cheers from Portugal 🍺🤘🇵🇹
I had a Scholz Rockman X100 about 33 years ago and I could almost perfectly nail a lot the tones on that album (as well as Boston and Def Leopard). Probably because Chris Poland used the same thing on the recordings. You've done an amazing job of emulating the heaviest tones from Dave's Marshalls on that album though.
I’m really sold on those pickups. The more I hear you play with them they literally sound like an active JB. I have no idea how Seymour Duncan got so much grit and attack out of them without a battery lol. Awesome job on the tones as always! This is my favorite Megadeth album love Poland’s solos.
I keep waiting to see Dave Mustaine pop up in your comments to tell you how awesome you are. Keep up the astounding work!
The thing you mentioned about Dave and Chris playing different chords/notes...I notice that with Dave and Marty on Poison Was The Cure from RIP.
Sounds great as always! Yeah the riffs are all over the place on that album and don’t make much sense traditionally. I dread to think of that the tab books are like for this one haha!
An accurate book on this is totally needed. I think the fans would love Dave to oversee accurate tab books for his popular records.
@@LambChopper678 I've got a tab book on Rust in Peace from years ago and its not even close to accurate. I never got another Megadeth tab book due to this. Are you saying there are no tab books for this album out there or that the ones that are out there are woefully inaccurate? Cheers mate.
@@titmusspaultpaul5 I don’t think so, every tab I’ve seen for this album is terrible
Great job! These videos lately have me wanting 1 of these Marshalls!
If you got the matching dsl cabinet, how do you like the celestion vs the Mesa V30? I ask b/c Sweetwater offers a matching vertical 2x12 for the 20 watt head. One of my reservations is that it wouldn't be loud enough to play with a band.
You are a master at getting the right tone. I'm blown away each time and you've sold me on getting a DSL20
Excellent as usual! You’ve certainly got a talent for this type of thing!
Tone for a lead guitar is just amazing, good job!
There running on peace sells was not e or e flat but in between
You most likely know this already, but I'm thinking that not all your viewers do: the thing about "pushing the needle into the red" when recording is a thing that works wonders for creating a warm saturated sound when recording on analog sources (like tape) but it doesn't work the same way with digital recording equipment like the USB audio interfaces that most of us are using today. Since that signal is digital, as soon as you cross the threshold for going into the red, you are hard clipping the signal which creates an ugly and very sharp distortion that is much different to the soft clipping signal of analog gear. It's very likely that the lead tones on this album had the needle in the red region when recording, because they did record that album on analog tape.
This is easily my favorite vid of yours
You never realize how technical megadeth is until you take it apart. I think in order to replicate peace sells you have to go back in time
Your videos are a great tutorial into what you can do with controls, especially EQ - many thanks
You’re the reason I’m getting a Marshall DSL mate! Thanks a million!
If I could get over my inadequate playing, this tone schooling would be great.
I know I read an interview where Dave said they used these little belt clip pocket amps for overdubs. He didn't say why, but called them "Rockmans" in the interview. Since reading it I think if it's true, it's a big part of that out of control sound. The layering of that weird solid state belt amp with the Marshalls.
Awesome job as always, I love these videos and I think like everyone else here it's made made consider the Marshall DSL 20 when I wouldn't have otherwise.
These guitar tone videos are great, keep up the good work!
I found one of these amps the other day on Facebook Marketplace for $350 brand new and I couldn't pass it up. Best amp I've ever bought. If you manage to find one of these, just get it. Plugging it in and turning up for the first time had the biggest smile on my face, it sounds so goddamn good. Thanks for the influence on this impulse buy.
That’s it I’m getting this amp. You sold me on it. And I think you got dav’s playing style down. The best playing and tone I have ever heard.
Fantastic video! I've been loving your DSL20HR thrash tone vids. I'd love to see you do one for Anthrax - Among the Living and Testament - The Legacy. You'd nail those tones!
Once again, thank you so much for the time and effort you put into these amazing videos!! I do have a question though, not sure if you addressed it, but how did you get the tuning down for the album? I’ve heard it’s somewhere between E standard and Eb standard. Any tips on how you got to that?
Thank you!!
Sure sorry about that. The songs aren’t all the same tuning either, only slightly out though. As a general tuning for it I go 40 cents flat from standard
0:00 Wake up dead
3:10 The Conjurning
4:46 Peace Sells
6:44 Bad omen
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but most importantly
7:15 super cool moment with parrot
@@thanosquill5542 thanks, you are right
8:30 My Last Words
Man you are so so good at this. Would you do some AC/DC and GnR tones?
Awesome thank you!!!!!!!
Hey LambChopper, just wanted to say your channel is awesome and refreshing! I love how you talk through how you arrived at these tones. Anyone can buy an artist tribute VST and play some riffs, but it's so cool to see you using the limited gear you have in the room to get these awesome sounds!
Thanks for taking my suggestion from the So Far So Good tone test!!!!
Nice video man! The tone is just spot on. Im also looking forward to get me a mxr eq pedal to shape/boost the frontend. But im not sure whether i should get the 10 or 6 band. Do you think the 10 band is worth the extra cash?
Keep thrashing mate!!
I like the 6 band. It’s got the same usable range and sounds great. I find the 10 band outer sliders are useless
Since i have problems with my h&k amp eating up power tubes for no reason, the dsl 20 is on the top of my list. Crazy what tones you can get out of it. Marshall should really acknowledge you for those really cool Videos. Keep it up
Great video, I planned to just watch the first few minutes but I got hooked ! great job !
Great stuff, but I’m genuinely surprised you didn’t play the “breakdown” riff of the Conjuring lol
Best riff in the whole album imo
THX for upload the Peace sells. Really, I appreciate your work.🤘🤘🤘
Nice, I'm gonna see if I can get this with mine. I got a 10 band an an OD
Ollie is super cute as always! You should see if you could record a cover with him singing haha. Question: What Seymour Duncan pickups do you recommend for an Epiphone Les Paul Custom?
I really don’t know much about the whole line and what suits a Les Paul. I’d find it hard not to check out Slash’s set or some pearly gates
yeah that would work actually, ollie's voice sounds just like dave mustaine's singing
I'm not a guitarist, but love watching your channel, keep thrashing mate 🤘🤘
I’ve been waiting for this... thanks dude 👍👍
As always, you bloddy nailed it mate 😎👌 This one has always been my favorite Megadeth record, like you said, this Dave at his finest 💪😎 Btw, Jackson just brought out a White king v with tom bridge & EMG's that looks exactly like Hetfield's "Kill Bon Jovi" V from 1985, which I would really like to have, tho not being a V guy, that looks sweeet 😎 But yeah, if Jackson could do a run of his Jackson's from this era, that would be cool asf 😎
I love your flying V's mate! Keep up the awesome shredding
The vibe is there, it feels right, great sound
Nailed it again.
One of my favorite tones! You nailed it!
So good
You worked really hard on this one.. well done mate.
Hey brother I'm lovin these videos thanks for creating some of the best metal guitar videos on the net. I just wish that parokeet would headbang when you play 🤘
These videos are my favorite great job man
awesome guy! my fave megadeth record! saw them open for the first time opening for king diamond on this album!
Love your vids Lamb. You're awesome. Can't get early Megadeath, especially Peace Sellls without a Rockman of some sort.
Very helpful tips on adjusting tone. Thanks for all you do. \m/,
Finally found someone who acknowledge Megadeth riffs are the real deal..As a guitarist i can play most of Megadeth riffs but those Riffs in Peace sells album are very difficult to nail it.. And Poland solo's too are so difficult to replicate. After learning to play Peace sells album, i begin to like & respect Megadeth. IMO far better than most other bands. If not try playing Dave riffs..
You are awesome!!
Hello from Paris France ! This is The tone ! Great vid !
You really nailed those tones mate time after time. You really dig them deep. Would you mind telling something about your band history etc? You are obviously a very talented player and of course i'm interested in you musical career. I've been playing bands and we did some gig's back in the day (totally amateur btw), but now it's all about making own music and recording at home. Thanks for all the good stuff and keep em coming-
You are absolutely the MAN!
Thrash stance ready! 🤘
Nailed it, love your vids dude! f*****g killer!
These videos are amazing, keep it up!
Yes
awesome crunch
Thank you so much!
I've requested this
Great sound and nice addition of the parrot cam!
So funny. I literally just bought and put in a set of the trash factor pickups in my guitar two days ago. I'm loving them.
Liked as always mate. Love ya work.
Nice job mate- ur right, hard as fk to play. Iv given up more than once. The tones are equally as challenging but you got closer than anyone else..right on!!
I need like a long lesson from you on dialing in my amp haha. I am riding the struggle bus hard.
Congrats for nailing that sound !
Sounds killer
@LambChopper678 Check out the old Scholz R&D Rockman guitar preamps, they're the missing element you're looking for ! Either the model 100 Sustainor or Distortion Generator, they are mentionned in the album's liner notes and you can see them in Mustaine's rig in live photos circa 86-88. Great video as always, cheers ! :)
I found an interesting video last night where they all spoke about the making of the 5.1 release. Dave talked about the rockmans and how they got the tones. Pretty cool though there’s none around anymore. They were rare back then.
@@LambChopper678 They're getting harder to find, people are holding onto them now... they've gone up in value quite a bit. I used to be able to find them pretty cheap even 5 years ago (never paid more than 100$ for one of them). I find the story behind their design fascinating, Tom Scholz was definitely a role model for me both as a musician and electronics engineer... Anyways, if you get to plug into one you'll recognize the sound instantly, they sound like nothing else (for better or worse loll)
That parrot is such a cool guy.