How These 'Entitled' Millennials Want Jobs That 'Pay'
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I had a great lesson about “hard work” when I was 18 working in a warehouse. There was an informal quota for workers, very basic pace. I decided to out perform the other workers and get my work done ahead of time.
I will never forget the result of that. The boss rewarded me with more work. Needless to say that killed 100% of my ambition and never did anything above and beyond
But what additional value do you offer if they pay you more for doing more work they might as well just continuously hire desperate people who they can pay the least amount possible to, so that's what every f****** company does!
I'd be nice if we had some real people who ran businesses nowadays
Yep, if you go above and beyond, that suddenly becomes what is expected of you... At my old waitressing job, when in a closing shift there were three possible pakages of closing tasks you could be assigned at the end of the night... It was supposed to be rotated as evenly as possible between workers from night to night... Well I started to notice that I was being giving the worst of the packages far more than everyone else (to the point where I started working on it before ive even been told if id have to do it or not because I was that confident it would be giving to me)... when I asked the manager if she noticed that she had assigned me to this specific package incredibly disproportionately to everyone else, she told me she did it on purpose because I do it really really well.... Needless to say I started doing it the bare bones average way everyone else did it so I wouldnt have to do it all the freaking time anymore
II got out of the Army in 1982, went to college and graduated in 1986, and at every job, public and private, long hard hours usually gets you no sleep, and no social life, but no extra pay.
The last great job I had was a company that fabricated structural steel, the owners wanted to retire and sold out. The new owners brought in a guy to run our site. His only work experience was running chocolate plants for M&M/Mars. He just had a new MBA. They main reason he got the job was he was the COLLEGE ROOMATE of the son of one of the new owners.
The first meeting we had with him, he was spewing gibberish about "Value streams" and "value added". Myself and the sale manager looked at each other and gave a "We're f*cked" look.
Sure enough, under his "leadership" this company that had $34,000,000 order backlog when he took over was out of business with 5 years. But he and the new owners r*ped the entire worth of it into their pockets.
That was 19 years ago. I have had only short term contract jobs since.
But anyone who grew up in what is today "The Rust Belt" had seen this before. It's been SOP for US Bushiness since the Reagan years.
@@FrancisR420 I agree and feel that way about my current employment. There wouldn't be anything I could say that I could offer more of in turn for more money. Technical Support doesn't directly make money for companies, in fact my company calls my department the "sales killer" since we point out limitations that sales wouldn't so thy can just make a sale. Probably all I can do is offer to be on call for extended hours.
It's upsetting how that works, I have a couple of close friends at my place and confirm I out perform our precious baby boomers by almost double the productivity. Our productivity is recorded on paper so it is not subjective by any means. The baby boomers I know do the least but have the biggest sense of entitlement just because "they're old and have more common sense than we do". If I didn't know better I'd just say it's just envy.
> grow up being told by the old people that I can be whatever I want and if I want something, anything, to go out and get it, and don't be afraid to speak my mind
> fast forward
> what you want to be doesn't matter, just get a job and be happy with it
> don't voice dissatisfaction with your employer, just leave and find a different job
> leaving jobs for higher paying jobs is entitlement and I'm wishy washy
> be satisfied with what you're given, don't voice dissent, obey.
The problem is, everyone is lumping individuals into a collective pile of generation hood.
You are not helping.
Bladey H. Queen
How so?
Bladey H. Queen is right, kkknotcool. I've given you two very long responses already, but you apparently went and commented on every single post, yet don't really respond when people respond to you, if there's a response at all its not to the main point of what everyone is saying. I have to wonder how old you are, if you're old enough you had a secure job when it was easier to get in and things didn't cost so much compared to wages, or if you're so young you have no idea what jobs and the current job market is like, or what it's like to have to pay your own way through life.
MariaThePotterNut
I haven't responded to you because I was at work.
I'm in my early 20s and working on my AAS.
Sure I don't know a lot about the labor market but I do know people who have seen it all and this is why I post what I do. I think maybe the most valuable thing about growing up middle class are those interactions with other middle class people who can tell you how they got there. "Education" is overrated skills and hard work are what bring home the money for the middle class.
Mediocre Client
OH MY GOODNESS. THANK YOU for saying this.
I worked for Walmart, full time for 3 years. When I got pregnant and couldn’t do heavy lifting any more. They took away my full time, I lost my dental, I lost my vision and short term disability benefits. While I was full time I couldn’t pay the co pays to see a dentist, doctor or to get vision test. When I was knocked down to part time I still had to pay $240 something each pay check for health insurance. I was making $10.50 an hour, Walmart raised their starting wage to $10.00 an hour and I didn’t receive any raise. Someone on their first day made as much as someone who has been there for 3 years with experience...... millennials aren’t the problem the problem is how we are treated and we are willing to fight back.
Your problem isn't being a millennial problem. Your problem is expecting decent pay for work literally anyone could do. I get where your coming from, I was at Wal-Mart 2 years 7 months. But it's a kind of job that gets you to a real job or is a side thing you do to make it. This is not a millennial problem, this and is a you problem.
kkknotcool a person should still be able to live off of that type of work. Or does a person have to have a “real” job to be able to survive?
@@lucyhodges8178 You know for thousands of years humans considered surviving to be clean water, a place to sleep out of the elements, and enough food to keep from starving. One Walmart job fills those requirements for a family of 5.
But if you mean survive as in I deserve the time of highly skilled healthcare people, then you have to match their education to pay for their time. It's only fair.
@@lucyhodges8178 Hell, you don't even need to match their education. Just get a really simple education like truck driver and make 5 bucks more an hour. That will more then pay for healthcare for a small family.
@@kkknotcool Oh, almost as if everyone needs to eat and have housing? Shocking concept, I know. An entitled baby like yourself wouldn't understand the reality of the job market.
Because no one complains to the companies that raise utlilies and housing. God forgive us for wanting to be able to keep up with our bills. Being homeless with a job will be the norm at this rate.
What's the point of having a job if it can't pay for an apartment? No point, an reasonable employee would leave their apartment and be homeless for a couple weeks and quit, buy a grayhound ticket to a place with a lower cost of living and greater equivalent minimum wage.
You are describing a problem that doesn't exist, because nobody in their right mind would work for a place that didn't pay them enough to feed and cloth and shelter themselves.
Utilities going up is a direct result of the Global
Warming crowd and regulations. Gas prices have sky rocketed thanks to Biden ending fracking…which he lied about in numerous debates. Now we’re back to relying on the OPEC and lost energy independence.
@@kkknotcool excpet most jobs now a days dont and u need two working adults to pay for most single-2 bedroom aoartments anymore ...choses r litteraly work and struggle or dont work and end up broke af
@@scorpshade6123 a two bedroom apartment isn't the bare necessities.
You need a studio apartment, that's bare minimum. And almost any job at almost any place will pay for that.
@@kkknotcool i said single to a two bedroom apartment. And a studio apartment is less than bare necessities for single parents with multiple kids
its strange that the senator says the founding fathers would hate a nation filled with miss janes yet last time i checked the founding fathers were kind of famous for complaining to leaders about wages and tax after all its why anerica is a country.
Owls Thank you for this, it's one of the most true things I've ever read.
Owls you know what they: say bring us your tired your poor your huddled masses... unless they want money.
They didn't complain about wages, because the founders were self-employed. The nation is at its best when people work for themselves. Very few business owners say, "I wish I worked for someone else." The vast majority of Americans in 1776 were self-employed farmers.
Indeed. The national economy has changed radically though. Individually owned businesses can only compete in very specific markets. Most mass markets have become hegemonically dominated by large-scale businesses.
Owls You Ignorant Fool! you dont know why there was a revolution? by forgetting the trails of the past, we are condemed to repeat it. There i gave you some homework, learn something...
I'm 19 year old working a warehouse job in 90 + heat outside lifting various pipes and metals into basket (tens of thousands pd a day) dip the basket in tar and then proceed to take the heavy ass pipes and metal out the basket and into the crates ... for 11.25 an hour , I work 10 hours a day ....... fuck everyone who calls me a lazy millennial. I work just as hard as anyone , I'm a high school graduate and looking into college. Millennial really are struggling just to live. 11.50 an hour without trying to rely on financial aid is nearly impossible
You get 11.50 an hour??? Damn, that's lucky, I'm a college grad I can only scrape 9.55 an hour, and living in California is super pricey. Still more than a lot of my friends make though. The price of living keeps going up but wages are stagnant. People were more than able to live off what we have to before, but things didn't cost nearly enough.
MariaThePotterNut 11.25 but yeah ..it's a hard ass job and I'm tired . Especially since the pay sucks for the work I'm doing. Also I live in Virginia not far from d.c .. cost of living is pricey up here too . Living in the U.S is nearly impossible for people just starting out in life career wise with little help and no advantages
I may not be lifting giant tubes all day, but I feel your pain. Long days spent with people screaming insults in your face about your appearance and intelligence because you're not allowed to break rules for them while keeping a smile on my face, on my feet the entire time with the fear of getting fired if I so much as lean against something, the amount of sleep I lose because I can be fired if my hair and makeup aren't done up nicely enough. And I can't even afford the lunch in the cafeteria (on my unpaid break). I can't even get a second job because of the hours at the one, and not only are they long but they refuse to be regular or work with any other kind of scheduling. We all have it rough, yet we're lazy and just don't want to work. Even with the hell work is, every single person grabs at any chance to extend they can get, and call in on days off to try and pick up a shift. We want to work (well as much as anyone wants to we all want to win the lottery and not have to) but when the compensation isn't worth it or even close to enough to live on, it breaks you down.
MariaThePotterNut I'm sorry you have to go thru with that all day as well people are asses don't let them win 👍 ... millennial are always being called so lazy and yet EVERYONE ik has a hard job working full time everyday.many older people keep making it Seem that our generation has it easiest. Now I'm just Thinking about moving to a cheaper country lol
how the fuck are you only scraping 9.55 an hour in california, when the MINIMUM wage is 10.50. sue their asses man, that shits illegal.
One thing that's sad is that "millennials" is being thrown out as if they're talking about teenagers! Most millennials are in their mid thirties by now..who are unable to make a living wage! It doesn't even stop there as I myself am a gen-Z who is also struggling to make a living wage, along with a bunch of other people!!
Serena Swanson I’m 28, almost all my friends work two jobs to make a living, I lived in apt paying 2000 a month making 2000 a month. Smh 🤦♂️ I had roommates in order to help me pay my bills. I was in the military. We each payed 500 out of our pockets. And we where able to afford lots of food and a pretty good living. When I move into a house best thing to do is have roommates not even kidding.
What was your major in college? What self-learning did you do? What steps have you taken to advance your career?
The only reason people don't have a "living wage" is bad decisions and/or laziness.
I love how people throw around the "living wage" words as if they know what it means. You used it. what is a "living wage"?
@@snakechrmr6398 A "living wage" is giving people more money for ,making bad decisions when they were young. The idea is someone who is only qualified for night shift at a 7-11 should be paid enough to buy a house and raise 3 kids.
@@FD2003Abc A living wage is paying people the basic amount needed to LIVE, jackass. That is what workers fought for back in the day and without their efforts you'd be working 12 hour days for literal pennies. Currently we are going back in time and fools like you are helping that regression.
It’s really sad that the idea that someone who works a full time job should be able to have a place to live and should be able to afford a dentist copay is like a totally radical idea and not the obvious truth.
+Taylor Smith Honestly, someone with a full-time job should be able to provide for a family.
@@tarvoc746 Only if that full time job pays them a livable wage and not the bare minimum... duh
@@wiseguy01 *should*
Tarvoc I can read
There are people who are PAID to make the mass of people think a living wage is "a radical idea".
There are people who are PAID to demonize unions.
There are people who are PAID to continue the myth of the laziness of the poor.
Guess who those people work for?
From my experiences, the corporate workplace is less about qualifications, skill, talent, effort, education, morality, ethics or quality work and more about politics and how fast things can be done for the least amount of money possible. I was mistakenly given credit for a project I barely worked on and invited by email to a business dinner to celebrate the project's success. My coworker who did 99.9% of the work on the project was not invited. I couldn't attend because I had my 2 kids that weekend anyway. So I sent an email response saying thank you for your invitation unfortunately I am unable to attend but my coworker worked hard on the project and I ask that you let her go in my place. I didn't get a response. They didn't invite her. The following week i got reprimanded for my email to the executive saying they were offended and were upset. I was told I needed to apologize to them. To this day I still do not understand what I would apologize for. But I was given a hard time from then on and eventually quit because I was told some people higher up in the company didn't like me. I still stand by what I did and am still confused why something like not taking credit for someone else's work was offensive in any way. I remember my manager even saying "why couldn't you just go and pretend like you did it' and I said it doesn't matter I have my kids this weekend I can't make it either way. Its baffling.
Omri Xavier completely agree. I should have been fired today, due to a small mistake but I should have been fired but because the mistake that happened is one that happens often, me making it also put the jobs of my supervisor and plant manager in jeopardy. I would have been fine being fired, I did the right thing and reported the incident I was at fault for (spilled powder, we manufacture pills/tablets). but because my mistake would have been had a domino effect, THEY decided to have the incident go unreported "swept under the rug" because their jobs were jeopardized , I now plan to quit.
OK.....um....I have some questions, Ox, so let's dive right in. So you say that, percentage-wise, your female co-worker did 99.9% of the work on a project for which you - mistakenly - were then thrown a business dinner in celebration of said projects successful outcome, to which you declined the invitation to because you, ahem, "had your kids," and your biggest concern to be birthed from this experience is why some mid-level management types who you seem to have had no interaction with in this company, were being snotty to you behind your back? Well let me first say that you definitely should not have apologized to the co-worker from who you stole the credit for not only doing your job, but doing it so well that it was literally celebrated. Secondly, it's a good thing that when you were given the credit - and the business dinner celebration invite - that you didn't all-of-a-sudden inform the waterhead in charge of you that you didn't actually do any things, and that your uppity co-worker (let's call her "princess project") was the one who did all of your work, then seemingly, according to your post, disappeared from this entire sitch like a kerchief in a magic show. I mean, some people, right? Let's just cut to the obtuse chase: obviously, the perfect moral ending to this story would have been if Miss Pretty-princess-project-proxy-powerhouse had been "chill" enough to just watch your kids for you as you went to the party in her honorsorry in your honor, and you got a sweet-ass promotion! They probly had coke! They're businessmen! And you know they def knew Trump! Oh, the hookups? How does Chief Justice Omri Xavier sound right now? Cuz you're all about getting justice for those who don't get their due! You'd pull in enough scratch to hire a nanny and finally get rid of those fuckin' rugrats for a sweet Lake Havisu weekend VAKAY!! But you had to quit the job. I totally get it. So find someone to hold your chin up, and just keep saying to yourself, "Karma's a bitch."
Omri Xavier lesson, the less you say at your job the better off you will be. Sometimes it's better to listen and learn how things work, then to speak up, especially if you're the bread maker and your whole family depends on you. I would love to quit my job, there are always people who won't like you, and bad management, it's just the way it is, the sooner the younger generation realizes this, the better off they will be. That's a real issue, not getting pickles on a hamburger when you ordered them doesn't seem like a real problem when you become an adult.
Good job! An honest man does not belong in a Corrupt corporation. I realized managers where very immature and unethical in a sales environment and all anyone ever cared about where numbers. sell sell sell doesn't matter if you lie. I quit also.
Omri Xavier maybe your superior are bunch of ego maniac.. they dont like your co worker, cus maybe she dont know how to play the politic, annoy the hell out of them. n now you refuse, to play their game. the annoy with you too.. just change your working place. that communities is toxic
The BaBy Boomer generation: The generation to have everything, and the generation to make sure no one will have anything after them.
Funny how the Millennial generation almost mirrors their hated Baby Boomer parents, but on steroids:
* Hippies became hipsters
* Long hair became a man bun
* Communal living became living in your parents basement until you're 30
* Wasting your 20s became wasting your 20's and 30's
* Civil rights advocates became social justice warriors (antifa)
* Free speech militants became anti-speech militants
* Socialists became militant socialists
And, you blame baby boomers for running up public debt (almost all of which has been done on the backs of social programs) and fought to enact the single biggest social program in history - Obamacare. BTW, I'm not a baby boomer. I'm Gen X. I used to consider baby boomers the worst generation for running up debt, but your generation is doubling down on everything they did wrong.
In general, after baby boomers outgrew their hippie years, they grew up, worked hard, and didn't complain. Their biggest flaw was that they still believed in government entitlements... Millennials just believe in them more.
Not true. I am a baby boomer but my children are millennials. I want my children, and you to have better. If you all do then maybe you can be a generation of positive change.
Honestly, screw you. Everyone wants as much money as they can get. This is why people tell you to "grow up."
Poison Flame eloquently put 👌
The generation that perfected burning the bridge behind them, and kicking the ladder down after they reach the top.
The elder generations need to retire. Specifically in congress and politics.
Oh Gawd!!! Yes!!!!!!
I'm no youngster but these people in Congress make me look like a teenager by comparison!
@Vance G DeBravo Who said anything about Communism? Oh right, you did. You dumb piece of shit. You KNOW what you're saying is bullshit, but you do it anyway because you're attention starved.
Your not entitled
What about people like bernie though? The problem isn't nessasarily age but rather the corrupt media that allows rich old people who Don't have good policy into the US democratic system
says the senator who lives on taxpayer dollars
They live better on bribe money. Js.
Superbly underrated comment sir!!
Yeah, how dare us want jobs that pay a living wage. Who needs to make enough money for frivolous things like food, housing, and health-care?
What did you do to earn that job?
And why would you except a job for less than you want or need?
There are jobs that pay a living wage, there just aren't easy jobs that pay a living wage. Simple as that.
Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness are fundamental human rights. They're not something that you have to "earn." Everyone should be able to eat, everyone should be able to receive medical attention, and everyone should be able to not freeze to death. If you want to eat nice food, drive a nice car, or have a big house, then you should have to work to earn those privileges. But if someone is complaining that they can't feed themselves, and you tell them to work harder, they're not entitled, you're just an asshole
TheNodrokov my thoughts exactly
Alexis Eshem I love the boomers that have the fucking nerve to sit there and tell us that hard working people working 40-50 hour weeks still dont deserve a living wage.
Doesn't asking for pay show initiative and confidence? Don't old people promote these attributes as desirable?
Mether not when they're the ones that have to pay
Mether It's actually common practice in the United States to put a clause in the employment contract that you are not to discuss your pay with other employees, and if caught doing so you're subject to termination. Employer's don't value employee's who strive for more, they value employees that will settle for the bare minimum unfortunately.
Mether Only in movies
Myranda Isn't that super illegal? or at least regular illegal?
Mether yeah, never follow old people's advice, some will tell you to call to annoy a potential employer because it shows "initiative" but many companies, if they told you "don't call us, we'll call you" will immediately put you on a "do not hire, can't follow directions" list
Everyone that calls my generation "lazy and entitled" haven't spent time among the majority of "millennials." The majority of us bust our butts, and are trying to figure out how to fix our own problems and potentially the problems of our families. There are entitled ones among us, but they're in all generations.
"Slavery was never abolished, it was only extended to include everyone" Charles Bukowski
Slavery ended.
Cheap labor just changed
False. Slavery was indeed abolished. The fact that you think slavery currently exists in the United States of America is why you are at the bottom
@@professionalcommenter5 I'm pretty sure you are at the bottom as well
@@monsieurfortuna9952 lol it’s a FREE country. You can think what you want
It's sad that no one in this generation can fight, ask, or do anything to improve working conditions, because they automatically get written off as over privileged millennials who complain rather than work.
drybrawler Thats because regardless of generation, a lot of the time people forget how they were as children and believe everything was better before. Even when we become old it'll start happening, although I have no idea why it does. I mean, I'm a teen and I'm already starting to say fuck the newer generation
I hope that, when I get old, if I started ragging on the younger generation, someone slaps me. My parents' generation was literally called the "Me Generation." Kinda hypocritical of them to criticize us for the same things that were lobbed against them.
Things have changed wildly the US since I was growing up. I can't say they're better or worse for kids growing up in the last two decades, but one example that comes to mind is the idea of 'free-range parenting' being radical. When I was growing up it was simply called 'parenting.' It feels to me like too many people want to micro-manage every part of their life. Businesses definitely micro-manage, and people try to tailor their lives so that every part of their day suits them perfectly. Newsflash to all micro-managers: Perfection can't be achieved. The 'grown-ups' in this country includes too many control-freaks.
To me the only thing that's changed is the older generations who would have to pay out these higher salaries to the younger generation now have a means to bitch about them in mass on the internet. In the past when young people unionized I doubt the crotchety greedy older generation didn't have anything much nice to say about them either. Im sure they would have said those generations of young people were trying to steal their money and that they were lazy.
They're written off that way because they ARE that way.
Expecting a part time job to pay enough for you to live is ludicrous. Expecting a full time job to pay enough for you to live is not an unreasonable expectation.
TinyManNasty Anyone working 40 hours a week should be able to survive at least even at minimum wage but that's not the case. Full time would be nice but lots of companies now specifically avoid giving it just to avoid giving benefits and the reality is there are more and more of those jobs as time goes on and it's not enough full time positions for everyone. Yet these positions must be worked by someone and not just high school kids.
It blows my mind that there are people in your country who think the minimum wage should NOT be enough to survive on. What else is the minimum wage even for?
That's the difference between expectations and demands.
I expect someone to buy my used car for a few thousand.
I would never demand they buy it for a few thousand.
I'm an adult, I would just pass on the offer of less.
kkknotcool on an individual scale that works fine. On a societal level though? As people see that they can pay less for the car, the standard offer paid gradually lowers until cars are essentially worthless.
The reason we have governments with laws and regulations is that a free market left unregulated end up royally screwing over the average person.
Joseph Boyd
In a world where used cars are worthless I am a lucky person. I can go anywhere for the price of gas.
But that's not the way it works. Right?
Supply and demand always balance. If someone isn't paying you a "living wage", then it's not a job that needs to be done. Nobody works for under a living wage. Just a shitty wage that makes you live in your car and eat carrots and beans everyday. Sure life sucks when you are there but that's the economy telling you, "you are not important to keeping society running, so go do something else. learn a new skill or something."
I worked as a CNA at a wealthy corporate assisted living facility and only got paid $9/hr. You have to go to school to become a cna, so it should be considered a "skill." But even without the license, appropriately caring for someone is a learned skill. They had us working with dementia patients, handling and administering narcotics and we were in charge of providing emergency care. The facility didnt hire any RNs or janitors so we were in charge of everything, including the laundry and cleaning the building. And they were always understaffed. Since the company is only willing to pay $9, they can only keep people with criminal records and since they're forced to work double shifts they become over tired and abusive to the elderly. I was disgusted, this was all the corporation's fault for refusing to pay an adaquete wage for a serious and very much needed job. I quit and I'll never work for a place like that again.
My mom works at one. It's a nightmare shitshow and part of the reason I quit refined sugars and processed foods with daily exercise: I don't want to be in one of those places when I'm old.
Holly Olsen Sorryto hear this. Yiu gotta leave that place ASAP. Get your LPN or even RN license and ditch that place.
yup CNA's are grossly underpaid for what they do. Primarily because the actual clients(old folks) no longer have any economic or political power and the people in charge just want to "meet their obligations" as cheaply as possible. Where I live CNAs have to supply their own vehicle and travel to 2-4 patients a day all for $9 per hr They are losing money every day they work it is tragic
And hope you will never need such a place for yourself or a loved one which means your hope is hopeless. Just like mine.
The "Millennials are entitled" starter kit:
* I got a job from a family friend and I'm fine! What's your problem?
* Just walk into a business with your resume
* Why don't you work a trade (where you have a good chance of getting injured or maimed), they're in high demand!
* (Millennial variant) I don't see why you're all in debt, I stayed with my parents paying no expenses until I was 25 and saved $100k! You're obviously not working hard enough.
* (Boomer variant) I don't see why you're all in debt, I got an entry level job that let me afford a house and and a family of four. You're obviously not working hard enough.
* Your issue is trying to live where housing is too expensive. Go move thousands of miles away from anyone you've ever known or loved to a place where the only two things to do are drinking to country music and doing meth to country music and you'll get paid half as much for what you do. That'll fix you right up! (We'll just conveniently ignore the fact that your student debt won't magically be cut in half if you do move)
* Avocado Toast
* Why were you so dumb as a child that you listened to every authority figure in your life that told you to go to college. What an idiot!
And for a limited time only, upgrade to the "Fuck you, I got mine" Deluxe pack with:
* We need to cut "entitlements" so I can pay a tiny bit less in taxes, because who cares that the top tax brackets have been cut dramatically since Millennials started being born. Also, the poor need to start paying their fair share instead of wasting money on food and shelter because I once saw a poor person with an iPhone 4 and that means they can't actually be that poor.
Couldn't agree more
Yes
Best...Fucking...Post...ever.
That attitude right there is why you will never get ahead. Certain careers are dangerous. Yet they have to be done to make modern life possible. The fact you have a roof over your head (even if that is section 8 means that someone pulled themselves up the ladder and nailed some shingles down.
You could not have my career as a project super because sometimes people are mean, rude, and sometimes clients demand results for their money.
America is a competitive society. Not everyone deserves a job let alone a good one. You have got to increase your skill set or you will fall through the cracks. If you are 30yo here and still making minimum wage you have lived nothing but a losers life. It's your fault. Not the rich guy. A rich guy signs pays my salary 110k per year to supervise general projects. Why is a rich guy not willing to pay you. You grandparents saw burger flipping as opportunity. you see it as demeaning. That's the difference. 7.4 million high pay jobs are going unfilled today. Yeah society failed you. Summer camp is over precious little snowflake.
Blue Collar Millennial The military did a lot of research, and found that anyone with an IQ of 83 or below would not be an asset to any job they are put to. They are, essentially, unemployable. This generally isn't something you can test for before birth, and generally isn't preventable. How many people have an IQ below 83? One in ten. Those are just the utterly unemployable. How about the people above that? Those sub 90s? What kind of technical skills do they have that would pull them up from poverty? You can't possibly think they could become doctors, or even plumbers. So should those people who are incapable of having those skills be forced to be homeless? Not have food? What if it isn't willful laziness or fear for their lives, but actual incapability?
Edit: the reason that burger flipping is seen as demeaning is because we're taught by people like you that you have to have better skills or to get a different job in order to survive. If you could survive on a job like that, it wouldn't be demeaning.
So, they fixed the problems she complained about...
After firing her for bringing it to their attention?
What the Hell?
She was fired because she's willing to speak for not just herself, but the rest of her people and this could cause the higher levels more trouble in the future. Obviously the Yelp admins don't want someone who's willing to speak out about unfair work conditions and would rather avoid further interactions such as this. It's an act that shows us that the Yelp admins have more to hide than a simple wage inadequacy.
As for why they "fixed the problems", they certainly wouldn't want a headline saying "Yelp Rejected Request For Living Wage"..
companies do this all the time
Zak Kaufman It painted Yelp in a bad light. They punished her but made the changes to avoid negative press.
It basically sent the message for the remaining employees "Complain and you'll get fired"
And that's why unions are good and need to be more in the work place, but the dumb Republican fucks are trying destroy them.
The craziest thing is that people of our (I'm in my early 20s) generation have to work so much harder in order to get to a point of financial stability than any other generation before us. AND WE DO, and when we do, we're called entitled for feeling like we should be paid for the work we do. Paying people for work, thats a crazy concept, huh?
Ian Loughney
i feel your pain. people from the 50s-80s did have it much easier. but that was because there was zero global competition. the fact that you think you have to work so much harder than people from 100 years ago is not really true.
Financially stable, like my dad who hasn't had a stable job for over a decade.
amer shakir Well, not exactly, global competition actually hit its peak in the 70s and 80s, think postwar Japanese and Chinese manufacturing. The reason things were easier in the 50s-80s (at least in the US) was actually due to labor unions. During that time over 30% of Americans had union jobs and could petition their employers for better wages and conditions. Now, as shown by this video, the older generation has forgotten this, and when people try to unionize or petition for better wages etc, they're called entitled. Hence, today less than 10% of Americans have union jobs.
That all said though, you're right that 100 years ago people did have to work harder, but that's because there were no legal protections for workers. No minimum wage, unionization was illegal (Pinkertons etc) and shift length and workplace safety were not regulated. So these weren't people working hard on the strength of their back to make it big the way baby boomers today romanticize it. It was people being forced to work in dangerous and unreliable conditions. In my opinion, a worker who wants safety and security at their job isn't entitled. To me safety and security at work are basic rights in any civilized nation.
I worked at Ihop for about 6 months, most of the older servers in there where lazy as fuck, I cleaned up after everyone and worked the fastest on the floor and you know what my managers did? They played reverse psychology and made it seem like I was a shitty worker I was demoted and yelled at for shit that wasn’t even my fault, now a days hard work just gets you taken advantage of.
I read talia’s open letter when it came out and immediately deleted yelp off my phone and never used it again. I was absolutely horrified. I didn’t even know there was a huge backlash at the time, I just assumed everyone would come away with the same reaction I had and forgot about it
You deleting yelp had absolutely zero effect in any way in this universe.
I work as a bus boy, I'm 17 btw, and I kind of find it annoying when people talk trash about me and say get a better job. Like honestly do you think I enjoy lifting 20 pounds of plates multiple times a day to and from tables? Do you think I like cleaning up after children and listening to annoying adults who throw stuff on the floor?
T- Smooth well it actually isn't that much until you realize the weight I carry isn't balanced. I usually use a bucket to carry everything, which in retro spec probably adds up to more than 20 pounds because of water, food and glass being added, so it's rather annoying to hold above my waist all day. Along with that the buckets are stupidly made of a thick plastic which I always worry will break.
T- Smooth
I can carry up to a group of 8's plates, cups and assorted trash at a time so I'm not really sure how much the weight is
keilante taylor then why do you work that specific job?
Piper Roca
I need to earn money. It's not my ideal job but I earn 500+ dollars a month. I've been currently looking for a new job but being 17 and in high school doesn't exactly give me many options
Everybody starts somewhere. But no matter what job you get as an adult people will still try to insult you the same way they do now. Most people assume any job other than the one they do is beneath them and simple. I have hired hundreds of wait and bus staff, good ones are worth their weight in gold. If I were in your position I would be worried more about what kind of job you want to have by 24 than I would be by trading up or sideways now. Longevity and work ethic mean a lot in an interview especially these days. I have kids come in with 4+ years experience but never more than four or five months at any place. That looks bad no matter what level job you are after. Good luck.
Every one who complains about workers demanding a living wage, they all see it as just someone working at McDonalds or other fast food places. They don't realize how many people are actually employed at minimum wage. it's more than fast food workers or the cashier down at Target (who aren't even allowed to work a full forty because then they companies would have to provide benefits). It's security guards and warehouse workers and office temps and delivery drivers and dozens more. Companies refuse to pay what their employees are worth, then turn around and give bonuses to the higher-ups because "those people are worth more." It's degrading and demeaning.
lmao exactly where they actually hiring full 40 with benefitz?
While Obamacare DID implement this rule (giving an excuse for MORE employers to do this), companies were ALREADY moving towards laying off full-time workers in favor of more part time workers so they could pay less and not have to give benefits.
I agree, but that doesn't mean we should discredit those fast food or cashier workers. My first job was at Dairy Queen, and I've had multiple other "better" office jobs and other jobs, and DQ was by far the one that was the most demanding and fast paced, not to mention not so great conditions and minimum wage, and the fact that people think they can treat you like shit because the food's cheap.
Piriathy because if you want to work fast food and make a livable wage 2 things will need to happen the price of the food will need to adjust. Ex. Let's say the average meal at McDonald's is $7.00 and everyone is now making 10/hr everyone wants 15/hr, 1.5 times more than they were paying before. Well to adjust for that pay level McD will be forced to make the price would have to be raised for their food lets an even adjustment 7 multiplied by 1.5 is $10.50. Making McD cost as much or more than Danny's, IHOP and applebees. Ruining their business model of being affordable and fast. The majority of fast food workers are high school kids just trying to make a buck while being in school so the can save for college or get high or pay for gas to go places it's not meant to support a person with a house and a job, because we live in a capitalist country where you work your way up to a livable wage and if you don't like it move to Russia or China. If you want to make a livable wage in fast food work your way up to management. Not saying this woman in the video is wrong but I'm just saying. You are.
Ken Darling dude McDonald's makes bank pretty much every McDonald's and the cost of the food is insanely cheap it's close to 80% profit for a mc double. I do hate when people downgrade a fast food job or a line cooks job or dishwasher. Most of the time they are the same people that if something goes bad in their life and they have to get a job like that they can't do it. I recently had to let a former amazon worker go because he was lazy didn't know how to talk to customers and just could not keep up in the fast paced environment. I don't think McDonald's workers should be paid 15hr but for you just always pray you don't have to take a job Ike that because you might not cut it. FYI I manage a subway I never hire high school workers they are the worst, mainly because they don't really need the job mostly parents just want them to learn responsibilities but they will call out for any reason and they can only work a small amount of time.
My Millennial child and his wife were working three jobs and both in school with two kids and she was pregnant ( now 3rd child). No welfare just working like elves the night before Christmas! No hand ups entitlements etc! They deserve a living wage!
Working two jobs and classes for school...how dare someone claim entitlement for wanting to be able to see a doctor!
"Not working hard enough" is immediately a terrible argument when they're working full-time. It's full-time; overtime may not be available and shouldn't become expected or it isn't OVERtime anymore. I also assume the letter mentioned that THE ENTIRE OFFICE wasn't making a living wage, so what, "Literally every single employee there just wasn't doing more work than actually existed to make a living wage?"
Accusing other people of not working hard enough is just a worthless handwave people do to self-aggrandize by telling themselves and others that they're somehow superior to the disadvantaged.
It's called mandatory overtime now.😞
@@juno09able And some jobs won't even pay that overtime you did. If anyone is entitled its the business owners fucking over their employees and customers.
And most of all this stuff is said buy folks that barely worked 40 hours , or in fact did not work but stayed at home to raise kids, made $1.50 an hour and was able to afford a house a car kids vacations food electricity gas for car and a host of other lavish things. Nowadays both parents have to work to barley afford some of those things.
i am a single mother, with a degree living in a suburb of chicago working a salaried job in socialwork and i am paid 22k a year, my cost of living is 25k so i am picking up odd jobs when i can and still trying to be a fully involved parent with my toddler. America Has a major economic issue.
Homegrown Vegan your problem is social work. It's low paying by nature .
Why did you have kids before you could afford them? Why are you a single mother? Where is the father? Maybe you should have gotten your career sorted first like an adult. You could just use condoms.
Homegrown Vegan ....you chose poorly... That's why you should have waited to have kids......
Kotak Grey you don't know her situation so don't judge
Charles Lee Ray Fuck off. You don't know shit about her personal life. Babies come about by rape, divorce, broken condems, failed BC, lying men and more.
I work two jobs and am raising two kids, one with a disability, and can't pay for glasses or dentistry for myself. But any complaint I make is "entightelment". I just don't know how to work hard.
I'm a lesbian, asswipe. There was a time I wasn't poor, and you are a shithead with no sense of empathy.
And what are the life choices that you have made up until now?
I asked a simple question. You only raised a complaint about the quality of your situation, which says next to nothing about whether you could have prevented it. That's why I asked what your life choices have been: to FIND OUT it you should take responsibility for your life. Let's face it: sometimes people get extraordinarily unlucky, but if you screw up your own life, that's on you. No one else should have to suffer the consequences.
About as mature, friendly and civilized as asking "what are the life choices that you have made up until now.'
" About as mature, friendly and civilized as asking "what are the life choices that you have made up until now.'"
According to which outrageously strange definition of "About"?
What in the world is wrong with that question? To me that sounds like a question that may be a perfectly honest, relevant and respectful. I might ask it myself.
"We do research at cracked all the time because we arent allowed to publish lies" yes!!!
Tell that Title Guy ...
He said as I read this comment, most surreal experience I've ever had 😂😂😂😂
there's nothing wrong with millennials wanting to make a living wage.
and, yeah, i'm a boomer. on the millennials side.
I'm glad at least some of you are decent folk!
I agree completely. Bring a useful skillset that commands such a wage and it absolutely should and will be paid. If the skills do not provide the employer value higher than a "living wage" (whatever the hell that is) then the wage will fall short.
Yay Margaret Johnson, here’s your participation trophy for not being insane and delusional 🏆
Thank you
FD 2003. the skill set is being able to do the job. burger flipper or doctor, if they can do the job they deserve a living wage. people shouldn't be punished with low wages just because they are not bright enough to do higher skill work. they don't deserve to starve.
I keep puzzling over the fact that people blame "Millennials" for problems, mostly financial problems. I have read a lot of things about "Millennials" not buying enough things to support businesses owned by older generations and that is why the businesses are struggling. But if you dig a little deeper, the businesses don't employ people such that they can live on what they make. Millennials aren't hired by people and then are blamed for not spending enough. They aren't buying houses enough, when, contrary to previous generations, they don't buy a house with no way to pay for it and collapse the economy. They aren't making enough to afford health care because previous generations have made it impossible to pay for it. Millennials need jobs to support themselves but no one will hire them because they require enough money to afford to support themselves, yet pay upper management more for doing less effort themselves. Millennials could afford to buy all the useless crap your stores sell if they had a job and made enough to support themselves. So, hire Millennials and pay them enough to afford to buy the useless imported crap your business sells and raise a family on.
Everyone, please watch my tiny nature videos. There is no talking in them. Shhh!
Actually the health care issue is new(ish).
Obamacare, which was heavily supported by millennials, has grossly over-inflated insurance costs making it unaffordable for everyone but even more so for older people (since your premiums go up the older you get).
John Patrick this might make you mad but it was actually the opposite in Obamacare. The people who pay the most are in their twenties, with the subsidy paying more and more the older you are until at 64 it pays all but a dollar or so. So the people who need it least are the ones who pay the most, and the ones who need the most expensive care pay the least. This is for those making the least money, with no job provided medical care. And it has changed now but initially there was a huge group of people who were working so they didn't qualify for Medicaid (income cutoff $250 per YEAR) but didn't make more than poverty level so they did not qualify for Obamacare subsidies. So they could not get ANY health coverage from anyone. I bet you didn't know you had to earn more than poverty level to qualify for Obamacare subsidies, at which time you could pay zero premium, but at a dollar under poverty level ($14000 per year) you had to pay full price of nearly $800 per month ($9600 per year) (Single person) and got zero subsidy, and had to live on not more than $5400 per year. What if you made $9600 per year? You were required to have health coverage, it all went. Less than $9600? Tough, it was still required. 😝 But it gets worse! That is for the Bronze plan, which also has a Co-pay of $6600 per year before it started paying _anything_ toward your healthcare costs... So the people who actually needed it most suffered the worst. It's such a crazy thing they were doing (changed now with Medicaid reform) that I will probably delete this entry because it is too distracting from the subject: Millennials. 😭
Behavioral sink.
Zom Bee Nature I
Millennials don't buy enough shit! Well maybe because you keep taking money away from them to give to rich corporations to make more worthless shit nobody wants? Hard to buy stuff when you have no disposable income.
I can’t stand these criticisms that we’re all “lazy and entitled”. MOST people my age that I know have 2 jobs. We work ALL THE TIME. And the older generation wants to complain about “participation trophies and being told we could be whatever we wanted”. We were kids! YOUR generation was the one handing out participation trophies! YOUR generation was the one telling us to be whatever we wanted and that we were special. So, if that’s the reason we’re all so “lazy and entitled”, that’s on you. Nothing we could do about that.
Sorry we’re swimming in student debt and working multiple jobs to get through.
Good for you John. The rest of the millennials were told by the last generation that if they don't go to college, they /will/ fail in life. Millennials live in a reality that requires a cell phone that an employer can contact you by, because that /is/ reality for the vast majority of employment, despite your case study of yourself. They weren't told anything about trade school, they were told college. Most weren't given any concept of financial literacy or even how to pick a career, they were told college. They weren't told "Go garner experience in hand skills" they were told college. Period. Refer to "Prior generation gave us a bad idea, we're coping" bit from OP. How were we supposed to act on trade schools and all these concepts of waiting after high school to build a portfolio and save money for college when the vast majority of us didn't really see that as an option or even know of it as an option because all we have ever been informed about was "You need to go to college after high school". You can't act on knowledge that you don't have.
MrLastlived I'd also like to add that even trade school isn't a guarantee. You have to be in a specific trade that is in demand like welding.
John Curry no one forced us? My parents forced me to go to college right out of high school. I commuted from home. I was working and commuting all through college (plus household duties). Do you even have normal parents. I didn't even get a choice in college. I was going to the one that was a half hour away.
Whitney Elizabeth i am 30 years old, born in October of 1987.
I've been working most of my life since age 14 and I still don't have a degree in anything in fact I'm only studying because of the joy of it, not because I need it since I have my own businesses and thanks to working from an early age and 7 days a week I traveled a lot, have my own car, my own house and I can afford some other luxury from time to time.
All that I wanted to have I successfully obtained and all thanks to a strong work ethic and by making sacrifices of time with friends and family to sleeping hours but all paid off at the end so I disagree with the notion that it's impossible to succeed for us millennials, it's possible but it's hard and you have to be really tough to make it happen.
And for the ones that say that it's prior generation's fault that you can't get by let me ask you what kind of stupid parents you had? Because my parents taught me that the only way you can be successful is by working hard and being smart because nobody will give anything for free.
@John Curry you mentioned trades. It is a good route for some. I tried getting into auto repair right out of high school. Every shop i went to told me come back after you go to school. No one offered an apprenticeship option. So i went back to school (college) for automotive technologies and got a applied science degree. Went and spent 36k on my education. Went back to those shops. I was offered minimum wage! At all of them. So i said well lets give her a try. 8 years later and many shops later i make "decent " money. Nothing like your generation said would result from hard work. Before you say i am entitled. I finished my junior and senior year of high school living in the back of a $600 jeep in north east ohio. Graduated with honors. When on to college because the shops (a trade) said i had to. Im no stranger to hard work. Your generation refuses to accept that some of us actually work harder and still fall short of what we were promised. I take most things at face value. I have decided in the last year to go for something more white collar. The trades are short on new blood (especially auto repair) because they dont deliver on what is promised. Just my experience.
Our system is so bad that I think dropping out of high school actually saved my life.
And no, dropping out of high school should not be a good thing.
But now you are not properly brainwashed to accept the substandard environment of the American workplace.
You want a living wage? Youre entitled. Work harder and maybe we will consider it. Fun Fact: They never consider it.
sharpshooter188 I'm a Gen X. I worked for a major international corporation in the production area. Had to start at a temp agency (for a year with no benefits). They finally hired me (knowing that I had the required skills for the job several months previous). The average yearly cost of living increase was approximately 2% from the people I was able to talk to. Mind you 2% of $10- $12 an hour is only 20 to 22 cents an hour more. I never received a raise because I always tested up to the next level that received a pay raise.
Who hurt you
@@Shutchohole Me too. I understand many of the complaints millennial have because I recognize them. The only difference is I chose a career path that was hard and in need. It paid off with a living wage that became a wage to support a family. Listening to them cry because their liberal arts degree gets them nothing but massive college debt falls flat on me. They act like they are the first ones that ever had to contend with the massive boomer generation.
@@haroldhannon7253 I had a good paying job from 2000 to 2008. Then everything hit the fan. I'm back in my trade making 80k per year. I understand going to college ect. But corporations dont give a rat's ass about their employees
talk about a oxymoron. The cost of living is determined by wages not the other way around doofus. Wages are the biggest expense employees have that reflects on the prices they have to charge. If you increase wages then prices will have to go up.
Hey! Get a better job! Okay but first we are replacing all high paying jobs with software and robots. So all you have left is minimum wage and trades. Oh and we won't let you learn trades in highschool and we will sell you college. Have fun kids!
James Love what's trades??...like importing and exporting goods?
Someone has to maintain the software and robots. The robots are replacing no-skill, low-pay jobs anyway.
Yeah, my uncle says $30 an hour for wielding starting income (he is the head wielder at a small company, no I don't know the official name for his position), ironically the wielders who came out of a local college were so poorly trained that he actually went to teach the teacher how to wield cause that's how far behind the companies they fell. (think of every person who got a wielding certificate only to find it worthless to companies who only want people who can wield at their level) Be better starting off doing other jobs for them and they will teach you to wield as you work. Modern colleges should have people with actual work experience, perhaps people who still are working, cause while it would be harder to work and teach, the knowledge would remain in relative to the current economy.
Don't you mean "weld"?
Keith Dixon That was true years ago, but this level of automation is different. Most high skilled jobs will be replaced by machines in the near future.
As someone who vilified this woman on the internet last year when this happened, I deeply apologize. I had no idea.
If this is true then good on you for reflecting and using the opportunity to grow. I'm hopeful things like this will help us move past the "outrage culture" phase of the internet, where everything immediately becomes a witch hunt.
Doubtful
Lord Avatar That's so incredibly refreshing to read. You're brave and insightful for your admission & your apology.
Good on you mate.
Elektric Skeptic Johaniskraut Bernstein L'OrCheard *Your*
Elektric Skeptic Johaniskraut Bernstein L'OrCheard thank you
When I graduated college, the first job that i got was a job that paid 10.50 a hour. Only job that would hired me. It was part time. The next job I got was 13.00 a hour. It was temp work and I had no benefits. I now have a job that pays me 17.00 a hour with benefits. This had been 4 years in the making. I still cant afford much because I have bills and crap to "build up my credit."
I have two degrees, English and Philosophy. I was turned down by Teach for America for three years consecutively, every job that required a college degree was only willing to pay 11.00 an hour with no benefits. Now, I'm trying to go to law school with out taking out so many loans, but my dads advice is "everyone does it."
He doesntunderstand how hard it us because he got a job with the government at 18 and has been there since. He makes 100,000 a year and doesnt understand why half of his kids just wont "try harder."
I'm not trying to be a dick, but you were not given good career advice. You have degrees with low marketability, so you don't make much. I entered the workforce two years ago, but chose a trade, I am a commercial electrician. Yes, I work harder than you will, bit in two years I already make over $17 an hour, I am eligible for licensing next year, and can look forward to a median pay of $28 per hr, which will increase with time as I achieve additional certification. My school is only about $2000 a year, which my company reimburses if i maintain a high gpa.
This is pretty much the issue. The employment market doesn't care for degrees, it cares for skills that are ready to be employed, and it pays wages/salaries based on whether or not the offered skillset would be easy to replace.
Me, I'm a trained chemistry lab worker. I dropped out of university without a degree, but due to my previous training I never had to worry about employment for a day, and the pay has always been decent. Why? Because a lot of the stuff I trained to do (ideally without harming myself or any innocent bystanders) is nothing anyone would pick up on the side, it's just too special.
I dropped out of high school and made 15 an hour driving a forklift. LMAO we're so fucked.
Learn to code brah, an English and philosophy major essentially says "I'm a really thought provoking useless person"
Tyler Channell so you have a degree and your living on credit ouch!!! pay them banks....
Imagine a job where you had to work 12 hours a day, seven days a week in an unhealthy, dangerous environment with no benefits and get paid the equivalent of about $100 a day while the owners of the business enriched themselves and became the equivalent of billionaires. Where is such a job? Russia? South America? China? Africa?
None of these. This is a description of the steel industry in the United States at about the beginning of the 20th century. And yes, these workers were described as lazy, ungrateful, uncouth, degenerate, and were roundly ignored by their government to the benefit of capitalist owners of the mills.
It was only the coming of the Steelworkers Union and the post-WWII prosperity that allowed industrial workers to gain a living and even middle class wage.
If Senator Sass is such a historian, he should know this.
What we are facing, all of us, not just millennials, is the return of unfettered capitalism, benefiting the few at the expense of the many.
Wake up, Americans. Learn your history because we are repeating it. And most importantly, VOTE! Send these wannabe dictators and autocrats back to the slimy rocks they crawled out from under. Don't let them fool you. We deserve to be paid enough to live at minimum. And we deserve to share in the successes that OUR labor creates.
John Lost how can we have capitalism when our nation's currency is printed by a private bank. We have legal tenderism, not capitalism. Inflation IS taxation.
They Will probably call you comunist AND kill or exiliate you to silence you.
Im guatemalan, read the guatemalan history during the decade of 50
Donald Trump has been hiring illegal immigrants for decades and paid them peanuts. So it's happening in the US
Terrible 🤬
I agree about the rest of your comment, but strongly disagree that it's any different in Russia. Speaking as a Russian.
I haven't read Ms. Jane's article in years, but the second she was introduced here, my first thought was "Oh, its the girl who was starving to death working for Yelp". I think that says enough.
fish -d how did you remember that?
something tells me that she wasn't starving to death, now how many cameras are on her here?
I just read her article for a better sense of context and it was absolutely heart wrenching. No, Ms. Jane doesn't mope or complain , she makes very valid issues with her living conditions because of her crappy job very relateable and very real. Maybe coming from another "self-entitled" millennial that doesn't mean anything...
edit: just realized I didn't link her letter, I didn't see it in the videos description so I looked it up but someone may not find it so here....medium.com/@taliajane/an-open-letter-to-my-ceo-fb73df021e7a
Thank you. I assumed there would be a link in the description and was surprised there wasn't one.
Having read the letter, I sympathize with what she went through, but I'm not surprised they fired her. Her letter was directed at him with wording that was personal. A lot of people don't like to be challenged, especially those in positions of authority. Then to bring up his own lifestyle on top of the work conditions and complaints over how the work was done? There aren't too many people who wouldn't feel some type of way about that. If he were more empathetic, and initially believed her (many people write off extreme situations as exaggerations), things might have ended differently.
Sequoia Cushenberry yeah... read the whole letter... she expects others to cover her life choices. that is entitlement in a nutshell. I feel bad for her, I've picked up and moved twice. life is a bitch, suck it up
I would expect nothing less from an account titled 'TheWeakMinded'
She majored in English, chooses to live in the Bay Area alone, without roommates, and buys fancy bourbon she poses with in Instagram photos and we're supposed to feel sorry for her financial decisions? Also, have a hard time believing that fatty was ever starving. Maybe for her 6th meal for the day.
Jove Joved wow... calm down there buddy... no need for fat shaming...
You can be fired just for such a letter in the USA?
You can be fired for anything at all.
Unless you have a contract or don't live in an at-will state (of which there is only one), you can be fired for anything but being a member of a protected class. Your boss could fire you because they don't like your shoes
@@deathXbyXlight: And if you ARE a member of a protected class, they'll just claim they fired you because they don't like your shoes anyway.
For asking for better wages, no - at least not openly. However, if they feel you're 'disruptive to the workflow of a company', like when you write a publicly available letter to a CEO with your complaints, absolutely. Of course, if you send a letter privately odds are you'll just be ignored because they can get away with that.
In most jobs in the States, your employer can fire you for virtually any reason, and come up with an excuse to cover themselves from a lawsuit. Republicans call it "Right To Work". Seriously.
hot take, no one who works a 40 hour work week should be unable to afford the 20 dollar copay at the dentist. Shocking idea I know
Lazy millennial? I see lazy people from every generation. Is this just a blame game? We work to live so I see nothing wrong with wanting to be able to afford to live.
The world is a messed up place and the people slating her are just the maggots of society!
LordKwad the trick is to live to work it seems...
When governments constantly borrow money, racking up more and more debt to maintain living standards for people in the present, they are stealing from future generations. Older generations stole from us and now we are stealing from future generations. So yeah, you're damn right it's a blame game.
Jay Johnson
They built a pension social net that we fund and yet will never be able avail of because it won't exist. Instead our generations (X, Millenials and Y) have had our retirement ages lifted in many countries. It is now 70 in Australia, 68 in Ireland.
Millennials live at home longer because boomers completely fucked the properly market. Rents are sky high and property ownership is a pipe dream.
Oh and BTW. I pay a hell of a lot more tax than my parents ever did. The marginal rate is 50% where I live... to fund their pensions and pay for their fucking up if the financial sector.
Jay Johnson
I was born in 1977, you fuckwit. I'm not a millennial. Stop making lazy assumptions and if you don't want anecdotes in response don't provide them yourself.
I find it odd that people seem to miss the point. She was in a bad spot and put her self on the line to do something about it. That's not asking for free money, that's working for it.
Nobody missed it, she is a moron, like most millenials
The Frenchr not to mention that she succeeded in getting the change she worked for, but was promptly fired for it, whilst others benefited from her efforts. It's ridiculous that no one in this pissing match is bothering to point out that these changes were implemented BECAUSE of her, and despite the company agreeing with her, she still lost her job. Funny how things like that just get "overlooked."
Joe V yeah, they did miss the point, as did you. She took a stand, made a valid point about working conditions and the economic condition of the area (i.e. what constitutes a living wage for that area) and the company agreed. The changes she fought for were implemented, and she was promptly fired and vilified. The easiest way for a corporation to make themselves look altruistic and progressive is to make somebody else the bad guy.
"Oh, look at this entitled millennial who thinks she deserves more than everything we've given, with our raises and better work spaces. See how wonderful we are, and how terrible she is?"
And who is the public going to listen to? The corporation that gave themselves a pat on the back and smeared her; or the young woman whose letter they never read, nor heard of? That brat complaining about her from her pedestal is only able to do so because of the changes Talia caused. But sure, let's just ignore that, because it's easier to blindly follow the claims of a large corporation, rather than actually listen to the facts.
Ok, but that's not the point of the video
Joe V
Riiight, so are you one of these few "enlightened?" Or are you a gen-X or older?
Is it “ Millennial” to want a livable wage ...?
When it's normal to be fired for speaking up or asking the "wrong" thing, doesn't that make the state fascist?
Damn entitled kids, wanting 'food' and 'a place to live' in return for 'committing to working full time at a job.'
PeterWDawson - read the open letters and judge what their version of entitles really is
Normies don't need to eat anyway. Don't they just live off of booze and fidget spinners anyway?
of course the things they neglect to mention is, how much she was making. also YELP isn't a business it's complaining with a website.
TheNitroG1 It's pretty easy to verify that she was making $12 an hour. Just Google her name.
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Anything >>>> BuzzFeed.
Come on.
Considering this vid was posted over a year ago, it's probably "old news", but the problems people have with making a living wage still persist. I'm retired military, so a bit spoiled in as much as I got paid a living wage and had free benefits, plus have pension now that I'm retired. After retirement, I decided to work at a call center. For me, its a nice supplement to my retirement. For my coworkers who are trying to live off of that wage, well it just can't be done without working another job. It disgusts me because I see these people working 16+ hours a day at 2-3 jobs, having no days off except unplanned ones when a kid is sick, then seeing the message on tv telling them that they're struggling to make ends meet because they're lazy.
Are there lazy bums out there? Sure. That doesn't change the fact that lots of hard working people are struggling. Last study I saw in the news showed that functionally, American workers haven't seen a raise in over 20 years while wages at the top have gone up massively (Note: by functionally, I mean that even though the dollar amount may look higher, with cost of living increases and inflation, it doesn't go as far).
Also, as others posted long ago, taking the time to get the CEO's contact info and writing a letter like that shows desireable traits. If I was a boss, I'd want someone who will take initiative and speak up when things are wrong.
Yay, an aware person! Thanks for being honest, I appreciate it. You probably deserve your current position, unlike many others.
If you are working at a place for $16/hour and not making it, find another job! There are lots of jobs out there if you are willing to do the work. I work in industry. It is hot and dirty but the pay is decent and benefits are good. We get millennials who we hire and they quit a week later because they don't wan to get dirty. If you want to stay clean, work in a call center for $16/hour. If you want to make money, get a job doing something that pays and deal with it.
Idk - I'm an "elder millenial" - I always considered myself really in the Gen X camp but technically on the cusp of the Millennial generation and I knew the very evening of 9/11/2001 that the world I was walking into was going to be dramatically different from the one I was told I would be living in and I also knew that would mean making some sacrifices for a while and getting superfluous degrees in majors that have no real world value or living by myself was not going to be a reality for many years, if ever. A lot of my immediate peers realized the same thing and I think that's why we get upset at the younger end of the millennial generation for not understanding or appreciating that and when they get angry about making the same money we made we were their age (taking into account inflation, yes) we don't have much sympathy because we did it too. we lived three or four people to a house and cut our costs down to the bare minimum so that we could build up our work experience and hope to have a job by the time we were forty years old that could support us on our own with our partners. But we for sure knew it wasn't going to happen in our twenties - Because we saw the world shift right before our eyes just as we entered into adulthood. Maybe we can blame our parents who also saw it but somehow shielded the ones who were younger than us from that truth that we had no choice but to accept.
It drives me crazy how people see it as normal that young people are working FULL-TIME and can’t afford basic expense like rent and food. Where an extra $100 unaccounted for expense during the month can have a huge effect in your budget. How the hell is that lazy? I have met entitled millennials, but those aren’t the majority. The majority are barely surviving!
a mellenial thanks you :)
millennial
Since slavery was abolished, employers have been looking for new sources of slave labor. first the company store and payment in company printed "money" and now automation and legislation to keep employees at bare minimum remuneration. minimum wage and unions were supposed to ensure fair treatment and wages for employees and employer lobbying has nearly abolished them and caused stagnation of wages. generations have been taught that this is a good thing and to demand humane treatment is abhorrent "entitlement".
It's not slavery because people are able to leave the job and they get paid.
MischievousMoo are they truly able to leave and after the abolishment of slavery slave owners said I'm paying them in food and housing the more accurate representation of the current U.S. economy is serfdom
Uh, slaves were NEVER paid for ANY of their labor.
Huge difference......
Jason Richardson well yeah after slavery was abolished ex-slave owners claimed to be paying their workers in contract with food and housing
Anon archist Yeah, people like to justify it by saying these are low value jobs, like it's charitable busy work that doesn't matter. But if the cook or dishwasher doesnt show, how much is the restaurant going to struggle or lose? Like when the garbagemen went on strike, it was a nightmare. We tend to devalue the people we rely on most, the fact is our society can't function without this labor, so yes, every dishwasher and fruitpicker should make a living wage. It is the consumer and the ones who keep the profits that are entitled.
I got 4 certifications in Computer Internetworking Technology because I was told it was a "booming" industry. What they forgot to tell me is that it's booming... In other counties...
I have friends that are computer techs and made minimum wage for a skilled job, and also made $2 more per hour washing dishes at a restaurant.
This is the state of this country.
Ian Jones that seems to be the trend. I think more and more people are realizing that higher education is not worth the cost.
Which state?
i have a degree in cs and make well above minimum wage, maybe its not the state of the country but the state of where you live.
I was in programming in 2006, until they told me I'd never get a job in America, so I switched to my true passion, Animation, which is now mostly done in Korea... ya can't win.
+andrewesquivel: I covered it in a reply to the comment "drumwild" made, and several other TH-cam posts. It's not just about what is going on overseas, it is what has been going on here with the visas/Foreign Labor Certification program. The jobs are there, it is that the companies and/or the government are are not doing what is built into the law, and that seems to be ignored. I think it is almost at the level of racketeering at this point. I will copy that part of the reply here if you cannot find it, and want to read some more details.
Reading the comments now in the middle of the most recent economic downturn i wonder how some of the people defending the opinion that wanting a living wage is being lazy or entitled can or will still try to justify their stance?!
This is why you need real unions
*laughs uncontrollably*
Ok... Sure...
Depending how much union work you have done. Unions really only *need* to be involved in physical labor where safety enforcement and oversight can get people severely harmed when corrupted
Other than that, unions destroy businesses. Look into Hostess for one side of that story; arguably factual
Is sad how some stores prohibit unions and shutdown stores for a union forming
Unions do nothing but take your money. I was in UAW for 10 years. The corruption is unimaginable.
@@kl0wnkiller912 that's mostly because US did everything to curtail the power of unions now they're run by people with labor dispute management degrees. Consider looking into IWW which is employee-run
You know, there was an older generation during the Great Depression too, who criticized the younger generation for living with their parents longer, delaying buying homes/getting married/having children, and not "working hard enough". Today, that younger generation is hailed for being smart, frugal, and hard-working for surviving the Depression and making something of themselves anyway, even if what they made of themselves didn't turn out to be their dream job or something very glamorous. Someday, millenials. Someday.
raelonewolf i blieve we we refer to that generation in some sort of superlative, whiniest generation? Snowflakiest generation? Oh right, greatest generation. These young adults today may have had easier childhoods, but they are in fact facing the worst economic realities as young adults since the greatest generation. Gone are the days of working for the same company from graduation to gold watch. Gone are decent employer benefits packages. Wages are flat if not shrinking, and housing and education costs are way up over what the boomers payed when they were starting out. But yeah the kids today are so self entitled because they want hard work to actually pay off. I'm 38, so technically gen x, or the generation nobody finds interesting enough to talk about any more. But im pretty close to that millennial age group. I was directionless, ambitionless, fucked off and around and up. Ended up a line cook by default. I'm not doing great, but that's on me. I know plenty of people with ambition, who worked extra hard to put themselves through school and find decent careers, but with crippling debt-loads bleeding them dry, they aren't doing that much better than me and they're way more stressed about losing what they do have and still being in debt. Meanwhile, you can get a tax credit for a mortgage on a 2nd house, but not on student loan interest.
I feel like we're heading into a second great depression
Andrea Kinney we are. If the housing market goes again it will be way worse than 2008. Problem with economics is the fact that crashes are almost garaunteed.
This is an ongoing trend and it’s been going on for centuries. Older generations tend to complain about the newer generation. But can’t see the progress that has been made over time.
Geovanni, precisely because generations are always worse than the former one, don't you think so? these kids can only wish to have half of the strength and will of people back in the day.
The hippie boomers, the slacker gen Xers, and currently the entitled millenials. Every generation grows up getting picked on by the older generation and then later picks on the younger generation when they get older.
Tom Leonard FACTS
Well then I won't pick on the younger generation, easy fix. If people were just NICE.
Tom Leonard children are our future! Those weak entitled little fucks- older generations.
Ok real talk though between the silent generation, boomers, xers, and millennials the order of achievements and benificial qualities from most to least probably goes; silent, millennials, xers, boomers. The boomers have fucked so much shit up its not even funny.
You're a fucking idiot. It's been proven that graduates make almost $40k less straight out of school less than people who graduated 10 years ago. And the fact that people who don't go to school decide to learn a trade or just work for a living can't find a job because the past generation refuses to retire until they're forced to because they know they're fucked to makes the economy 10X worse. This is what happens when corporations take over a nation.
About two years back my friend and fellow volunteer Medic reported my s department to AOSH. When the new Chief came in he went after both of us. He even had the Major at the Salvation Army terminate me to get the department's White Chaplin's helmet.
They started down talking me at every place I applied for saying I was a bad apple and I did irreparable harm to the Salvation Army.
My fellow Medic received one hundred and fifty thousand dollars because he was the one who reported but sense he signed non-disclosure papers he left me hanging and no one will stand up for me.
I have gone through my life savings and looking at the streets. I don't know what I deserve for twenty-five years as a volunteer EMT/Firefighter but I don't think I deserve this
"You just wernt working hard enough"
It is unreasonable to expect someone to spend all of their time working just to be able to afford the basics...
if I have to work more than 7 or 8 hours a shift for more than 5 days a week, and can still only afford the bare minimum essentials for survival (such as rent and food), then I am working plenty hard enough... You just arnt paying me enough... I do not live to work, I work so I can afford to live! And if I have to work so much to survive, that I dont have time to spend with the people I love or to do the things I love, THEN YOU ARE NOT PAYING ME ENOUGH
Funny because all these Millennials out there screaming for socialism are going to end up exactly like your first sentence if they get their way. Ive been to socialist/communist countries. Ive seen it...
@@kl0wnkiller912 I didnt say anthing about socialism or communism.... All I advocaded for here was a reasonable hourly wage. What sentence exactly do you feel is incorrect sir
@@rubydarling7564 I was not saying your comment did. What I was alluding to is that many of the malcontents out there screaming rabidly for socialism are doing it because they feel they are being cheated somehow by not getting a wage they feel is fair. Life is what it is. I started out just like many of them, unable to pay rent or keep gas in my car but I worked hard and used common sense to live in my means and now I have wealth. It can be done.
The lazy employees wouldn't have the initiative and drive to write the letter in the first place.
This was someone who wanted a better workplace and felt they had an obligation to try and make it happen.
Sounds to me like you've done a fantastic job demonstrating just how terrified they are of organized labor.
+Jake Roberts This, tbh.
They are scared of critical thinkers. You possessed the ability to identify a problem and come up with a solution.
Their first response. Get rid of the person who makes them look bad.
Secondary action. Steal their work.
It's the McDonald's hot coffee lawsuit all over again: People form their opinions based on a headline, not a full article.
ImWeirdAndILikeIt duuuude so fucking true
The woman from the McDonald's case was an idiot and still her own fault, she just happened to work the system.
JinxtheOmen Do you even know anything about the case? Have you seen how horrifying the burns were? They were third degree burns over 6% of her body and she had to have skin grafts! That coffee was WAY, WAY too fucking hot and McDonald's knew it.
Yet she still ordered a hot coffee and put it between her legs and drove away like that. Still her own fault for not taking precaution.
Whether she was driving or not, does not change the fact it was still her own fault, if someone cooks you food in the microwave and tells you, there food ready to take it out, but you don't check to see if the plate has cooled down, and you burn your hand because of it, does the blame fall in the person who cooked the food or you who did not check to see if the plate had cooled down enough or not?
I didn't know it was a millennial thing to want jobs that pay? Now I know why people prefer generations before millennials they didn't mind not being paid fairly.
"I'm gonna come real hard on..." *rethinks everything*
No one should work 50+ hours a week and not be able to support there family on it.
their*
MischievousMoo do you enjoy living the life you do? I hope you do. For your sake.
Marketing Superstar what about the people running our power lines. Our roads. Our fucking power plants. And hydro damns. None of them make more then slightly more then minimum wage. Also, that's a very flawed way to look at it. Teacher's get paid fucking nothing. And they have some of the most important Jobs in the world. So do soldiers.
You know I think the youtube user might be on to something.
Tell that to people in India working +80 hour weeks and bringing in 70 bucks a week.
You keep complaining about your $500 dollar minimum wage check.
America needs cheaper housing and zoning regulations that allow for 300 square foot houses.
Not a bunch of freeloaders who think they deserve others money, because they can vote the money their way. (that's for rich and poor alike)
It't not your money. Nobody owes you their time/stuff.
I should work harder? noted.. I took classes in high school and college on how to perform in job interviews. I then worked hard enough to pay my through CNA classes so I can get a job at a nursing home. Then i'll applied to every CNA job openings within 115 miles of my house. It's been a year, 25 applications filled out, and 2 interviews. My license will soon expire, so I decided to take a phlebotomy and CPR class; maybe then I'll be qualified. Nope. Unless you have 5+ years of experience you are unwanted. I've spent 5,000 on additional classes just trying to find a job. But no, I'm lazy.
Move to an area who needs your services such as Florida is begging for CNA'S. If you train in an area that is not needed where you live and are unwilling to move to where you can be hired that is your own fault
dude, seriously. how can i move with no money? Im putting applications in over 3 hours away from my house, im trying my hardest.
Pfft Yea Right
Trying your hardest is being willing to move. Things just aren't working how you pictured.
That's the problem with millennial's world view. "The world should fit me." It's not like that.
People crossed contents, in covered wagons, to get a slightly better life for themselves, and then there is you. Who refuses to take a greyhound bus around for a few weeks looking for work.
Jen C
It's called Gray hound. You can get from almost any major city to almost anyother major city in the USA for under 200 bucks.
The +90% of the time someone is unemployed, in a degree which is worth anything, is because they won't make a sacrifice.
They won't move to where the jobs are better or they want nice hours or they want higher pay or whatever.
Sometimes you just need to take the 15 dollar an hour night shift job in another state. Because it's good for you, even though it mean sacrifice.
Jen C beats me. I think it would make a little sense. Haha you wouldnt go to a restaurant knowing you left your wallet. Why would you go to another state , if 1) you arnt even guaranteed the job in the first place (last time i checked, thats why they have interveiws and orientations). Or 2) have some place to go. The current job i have, i put in my application and it took a month after my interview to be signed on for orientation. Like how would i pay for that if i was using the grayhound example, if i didnt have the money in the first place
Daniel saying he is going to "come hard" on a US senator is a line that still makes me laugh just as much as it did 3 years ago.
When i was a ground staff, the new employees keep getting less pay and benefit for doing the same job at the entry level. The contract just kept getting tougher.
Isn't that thw best example of so called millennials getting paid less than the generation before. I haven't seen a single company who gives more benefit or more pay as they go on.
These days permanent employment is like something out of a fairy tales especially in developed countries.
Ms. Jane, I am not a millenial but you being treated that way and speaking up for yourself despite society having dealt you such bad cards is inspiring. More of a role model standing up for others than anyone using their power to simply destroy others to make themselves look better.
Ann Linley oh my god you must be a comedian!
this is what the modern worlds is, the big prey on the poor, and the poor have to be slaves of work to make a living, or get extremely expensive education for just a little better pay, honestly, today we are not free at all, we just wait for the next paycheck and dream of a scenario where we are happy, a dream that is unbelievable without ripping off other people.
This makes me sad, and depressive.
Kraklin
That is not relegated to the modern era.
Kraklin the poor have always had it bad. matter fact, it's much better in the modern world to be poor than ever before... at least in the western hemisphere
true, but dont tell me we are not slaves to work, if we want to be happy, we have to work 30, 40 years to have retirement, a time where we cant do the stuff we can do when we are young.
Kraklin that is not how it works at all you get paid what you're worth life is hard stop complaining
Kraklin learn to trade stock it's hard at the begining you will only win like 200$ a week if you learn it properly but on the long run you will be making big slices
I rewatch this from time to time to remind myself to read whole pieces.
The service industry needs to unionize
Yup.
They Will call you comunist hahaha
Service industry: *AUTOMATES*
Yep. One strike and society will be on its knees. No-one cares when politicians slack off and refuse to do their jobs, all while gouging as much money from benefits as possible (actually, we do care, but those in charge don't). If all the burger flippers, cleaners and shop workers all told their employers to go to hell they'd be screaming with outrage. And try to fire them all and rehire new people to abuse, because that's how the modern job market is.
Then have another section of your country's economy ruined by Unions acting more like a mafia or mob then an actual protection unit of the workers, so that all of the business flee your country because your discounted mafia has destroyed any real ability to have a business running more than breaking even.
The cycle of economic blame continues, the newer generation will be blamed by the older generation. Nothing new under the sun.
I love how cracked sticks up for their employees, they seem like just all around great people
They hadn't hired her yet.
The better question is why did they hire her?
I'm guessing because they agreed with her actions.
Super brave right? Surrounding yourself with people who think like you.
kkknotcool actually they had he mentioned in the video that he's her boss
Perfect example of, "entitlement," found in the comments section of this video- "full time jobs should provide living wages."
That depends on the job and how you define, "living wage." My wife and I lived in an apartment our first 2 years of marriage. She was starting out as a message therapist and the majority of her earnings went to pay for the space she rented. I was making a little less than $9/hr. Our apartment contract was about to expire. We found we had spent over $10k in those 2 years and had nothing to show for it.
We found a mobile park with an empty lot. Rent was less than half of our apartment rent. We took out a personal loan of $3k, bought an early 70's model rundown mobile home, and moved it to the park.
Over the next few months I had to re-plumb most of the house and replaced every floor as most of them had large holes. I worked an entry level government job where the only possibility of a raise meant having it written into legislation. Had plenty of nights we ate Ramen and bundled up with blankets to stay warm. Never once felt like we "deserved" more. We were thankful for what we had and took pride in our ability to get by without seeking handouts or assistance.
We're also technically both millennials, but the oldest of the group. Rather than looking at those hard times and feeling bitter or resentful, we see it as evidence that we can overcome any hard times we have yet to encounter. We lived in that place for 7 years, mostly just getting by, and eventually found better opportunities.
Moral- life owes you nothing. Rather than complain about your situation, adapt and overcome- and live within your means.
"But we've got to unionise and make sure we can punish these evil capitalist companies that we where taught in school that are worse than Hitler!"
@Aubrey The fact that you just deflect all of this with that sentence is high cringe.
This is a big example of cooperates bashing any one who stands their way of maximizing the profit! They hire people to shame them so no one ever dare to question their methods. Not only is US but all around the world.
Lol at everyone here saying if you make minimum wage it's your fault. We can't all be doctors and lawyers dude, the world doesn't work that way. Some of us try hard and still end up with scraps
Dexter Harris
and what should be done about that?
amer shakir first and foremost some of you can stop with the superiority complex. The truth is your not so much harder working than everyone you make more money than
Dexter Harris there is a difference between working hard and working smart. If you want to hard work that is your choice, I choice to work easy and make more.
If you're making minimum wage, it's because you're not generating enough money to deserve more than minimum wage. When you earn minimum wage, it's because your labor is only worth that much. If you work hard, gain experience, etc. you can ask for a raise, or get a job that pays more, because your labor is worth more. Your skills are directly connected to your pay, and if you never ask for a raise then that's your fault.
Dexter, how do you think the world works? You start with any job you can get and over the years as you become more skilled and valuable you earn more.
Furthermore your primary goal should not be earning a higher salary (whilst this is important). Your main focus must be saving money for your future.
Let's see how many wild and sweeping generalisations about millennials we'll get in the comments.
FrenzifyParadigm Many.
Bobbynibbles many many.. lol..
FrenzifyParadigm millennials are the greatest generation!!!
also Ben Sas and Talia Jane both sound like porn names. somebody get on top of that one... pun intended...
FrenzifyParadigm Yeah the irony. They'll probably watch 2 mins of the video before making claims.
FrenzifyParadigm It's actually mostly sweeping generalizations made by stupid millennials unfortunately. Stuff like radical proposals for communism, etc.
Did anyone else notice that O'Brien said that he wanted to come on that dude around 6:28 I think I've found a Freudian slip
I'm a 57 y/o male; I've been working since I was 15. I've done a lot of things: dishwasher, field worker, truck driver, supply grunt, military vet, security, car salesman, public school teacher, etc. etc. There ARE real problems earning a living wage in the modern world, and there are MANY reasons why this is happening. It's silly to blame one generation or another; there's more than enough blame to go around. Let's start with the obvious: when was the last time you voted? Something like 2 or three out of 10 Americans even register to vote. People are surprised that senators and congressmen have millions of dollars in perks, and continuously pass legislation that favors corporations, and avoid a flat tax, etc.?? Vote them out of office! If more Americans would just get to the polls and vote for the most unlikely candidate; ignore the Republican, Democrat, or Liberal; just pick a candidate that has a platform that you are willing to accept. ONLY THEN will circumstances change. As long as politicians can get away with their outrageous acts and fake (and temporary) concern for the average citizen, why would any reasonably sane person expect them to change? Politicians allowed major corporations to move their businesses out of the USA, and people didn't gripe much at first because clothes (among other things) became cheaper. Politicians allow drug companies to fix prices and sway legislation so that they can reap 300% or more on their drugs, while blocking the sale of generic brands. Only people who rely on their meds noticed or cried; as this population increases you're hearing about it more, but it's ALWAYS been an issue. There are many more examples, but here's a final one -- Legislation prevents more medical schools from opening up, and helps maintain the high cost of medical care... EXCEPT for those politicians. A military active duty person gets okay medical care. A politician gets FREE care, and the best available in the world, for pretty much the rest of their life. WHY DO AMERICANS ALLOW THIS??? Well... nobody wants to go to the polls and vote!! Ultimately, if you're not going to organize a position and get to the polls to VOTE, I can guarantee you none of your objections will matter. The people (3%) that control most of the money in our country will continue to do what's best for their immediate interests, and too bad for you or the planet you live on. VOTE!
No one can live on $7.25, that's a fine wage for teens in school but some people got the short end of the stick in life and have to currently work at McDonald's at age 35 while having a family.
QDJW Production its about living area. i am in high school but i make 10$ an hour
minimum wage does not mean livable wage. It means the bare minimum you are forced to pay for unskilled labor. People who don't have an education, don't know a craft, don't have ambition, don't have work experience.
Learn how to fix something or learn how to sell something. The reason why old folks hate millennials is we refuse to learn how to fix/sell even though we have the internet and its never been easier to learn a skill.
Whiskey Bent companies don't take "internet" as a valid school you have to go to a trade school or college which can cost $30,000 or more out of pocket after financial aid
John Smith to be fair, that's not entirely accurate for all jobs. programming or art related fields will often accept a portfolio of work instead of a piece of paper (and sometimes will prefer it) examples being 3d modeling, video editing, web design, app design, or similar.
Whiskey Bent It was meant to be a livable wage. But I do think a lot of people have too much pride to start from the bottom. Which is stupid. It is getting expensive to live of off 7. something an hour, and college or not its a struggle for most. If you have to HAVE TO work, there won't be any time to learn a skill that pays high. Work training needs to start and be pushed more in High School.
cost of living increases while wages stagnate=more dependent of govt
you mean liberal millennials vote to raise taxes and businesses don't make more money and pay more in tax and cant pay their employees? DERRRRRRRRRRR IM A MILLENNIAL
Thumbs up Ms. Jane. I worked full time in retail for 6 yrs and never topped 20k and I was a supervisor. I finally left and had to relocate to try to get a better job in different city.
I think it's sad that people accept young workers getting a second job because their main job doesn't pay a living wage instead of increased wages for jobs. People in the past may have done so but it doesn't make it right.
I see this in my office right now. Everyone from millennials to gen-x'ers is looking for or have a second job. The baby-boomers were forced out. Either take a package or we will make your work life a living hell for those that tried to hang on to get closer to retirement.
Jeff Mcfarlane Wtf?! do you wanna eat? earn money to go to the grocery store and buy your meals. or would you prefer to hunt for your dinner, lunch and breakfast.
spaceMONKEY 1801 umm what? you think people being paid more so that their FULL TIME JOB can allow them to live will make people hunt for their food instead of buying it? I'm , not really sure what you are trying to say there. EDIT: NVM I understood after reading it again. sure if you are in that situation you will find some way to live, but it's really not fair that you can work your butt off but still not be given enough money to live.
Milenias? Heck generation X is still struggling to make a living wage.
Generation Z is screwed.
Bitchslapped yeah I’m genuinely scared for the future my generation seems to be getting less “snow flaky” compared to people who are in there 20-30s right now but that’s just my experience but I’ve been going to school with the same people for 9 years since kinder and theres only one person who I can think of who is a stuck up person who called me sexist for mentioning someone as she but yeah
Jon Luci man that sucks I’m sorry man
Thank you.
House? You were lucky to have a HOUSE! We used to live in one room, all hundred and twenty-six of us, no furniture. Half the floor was missing; we were all huddled together in one corner for fear of FALLING!
You were lucky to have a ROOM! We used to have to live in a corridor!
Ohhhh we used to DREAM of livin' in a corridor! Woulda' been a palace to us. We used to live in an old water tank on a rubbish tip. We got woken up every morning by having a load of rotting fish dumped all over us! House!? Hmph.
Well when I say 'house' it was only a hole in the ground covered by a piece of tarpolin, but it was a house to us.
"this is everything that's wrong with millennials" that they want to survive
I just want A job. Let's just put it like that.
But in all seriousness, I think that most of the people who actually reach out and ask their bosses for a higher pay are the people who actually need it.
"But in all seriousness, I think that most of the people who actually reach out and ask their bosses for a higher pay are the people who actually need it."
Well, most of them certainly don't do it publicly!
I am 31 this story happened when i was 27...
My grandmother (RIP) , when my wife and i (then engaged) was looking to move into our first apartment....
Well my Grandma had succumb to the blind ideology that the youth of "Today" just wasnt working as hard as older generations - but quickly knew already that i had been working 9-11 hour shifts already just to try and afford to move out.... so she was also confused...
i came to her about possibly getting help for a deposit on an apartment, she went off about how her and my grandfather (Also RIP) got by on 160 dollars a week back in the 1940's for their first place and such, so how could i possibly need so much just to move in... (I must be bullshitting her was what she was getting at when i said i needed 1000 bucks to match my 1000 bucks for a 2000 dollar deposit here in New York for an apartment that had 2100 a month in rent)
I looked at her and simply said "You really don't understand it, i don't blame ya, last time you had to deal with rent was quite a bit ago, but let me tell you a little bit on how things have changed"
(She knows im pretty good with math on the fly)
That 160 dollars, would be around 2,000 right here, right now....
she said "Seriously.... its, wow, thats harsh" and immediately realized the plight i had ahead of me... and at that point gladly helped me with the deposit
But yeah, the disconnect even in those born in the 1960's-70's compared to even those of us born in the late 80's... is crazy,
but yeah, it feels great having more than 3/4 of my check go to bills and rent, not like i would want a little bit of it to ya know... go to my daughter or wife at all..... but of course, thats my fault for not working hard enough (I work 10-13 hours a day, 5 days a week)
they had been amazing people, she still helped me out, she just couldnt believe the amount
would have*
Vertoxis HammerSnatch how dafuq. Does she not buy things. Are they still driving the same car? Im fortunate enough to have supportive grandparents that understand how to deal with money. How can one not know how much inflation has decreased the value of the dollar?
Actually other than small odds and ends, they didnt buy much and lived with my parents in the downstairs apartment we had growing up at my house
My grandparents were very "Old school" my grandpa did all the purchasing, but started to have the onset of alzheimers, at that point it all fell to my mom
So she honestly and innocently had no clue (my grandma) just how bad it was for large purchases
Vertoxis HammerSnatch
I agree but the only thing that's good about it is the fact that whether your a republican or Democrat or libertian or socialist we all want the same thing fix it or get out of Congress stop wasting money like a crazy person
Vertoxis HammerSnatch
I'm a 78 baby myself my mom's retired at 69 hope i get the same we'll see doubt the 40 k I've put in to ss be there for me it's a dog eat dog world but good people still exist nothing wrong with NYC besides it's insane to rent or buy I live outside Cincinnati Ohio it's a fair city unless Jerry Springer is mayor paying for prostitutes with bad checks have a great day Merry Christmas and happy Hanukkah God bless America 🇺🇸
"...Ben Sass, who I'm gonna come real hard on..." priceless!
Bad times create strong pepple, strong people create good times, good times create weak people, weak people create bad times.
Boomers reaped the good times. Guess who has to deal with the bad times.
True..
I wouldn't say the Renaissance created weak people. I wouldn't call Leonardo Da Vinci and Vincent Van Gogh "weak"
“We do research at cracked all the time because we’re not allowed to publish lies” I literally yelled “DAAAAAAYUM” out loud
My Sister goes through the same thing. She has to work 11-12 hours everyday with little pay and her boss doesn't even pay her on time. She hasn't gotten paid in three months and her CPF hasn't been updated. It's really painful to see her just get sick and get frustrated with her life. It wasn't even because she did badly in school. In fact, she had straight As and masters degree but apparently that doesn't matter in the working world
She hasn’t been paid in 3 months? I would’ve been if they didn’t fix that in 1 week.
A big issue is wage stagnation and higher paid jobs are being held onto longer by older generations who just REFUSE to retire and raise wages
The old people that benefitted from workers movements and FDR policies in the early 1900s, grew up to resent the progress their parents and grandparents fought for and voted toward the right for generations and now that we're left with the outcome of decades of corporatism the old grouches wag their fingers at us with blame.
I've debated this topic with conservative people, from internet strangers to colleagues or family members. It was an uncle who had told me "if you're working for less than you're worth, that's your fault. You have the freedom to stand up for yourself and if you don't do that, it's not your employer's fault you agree to less pay. They're a business." When I responded with, "but usually asking for appropriate pay is demonized as 'entitlement' and 'complaining'," he promptly called me un-American and blocked me. I haven't spoken with him in 10 years.
mandolinbee but if you're worth more than you're paid, surely you can just quit and go to another company, right? Or you can ask why you're getting paid less. Negotiating isn't a bad thing, but you have to negotiate. What are you going to offer to the company by getting a raise? Why do you want a raise? How many hours can you put in? Etc. you shouldn't just ask for a raise.
your uncle was right. if you want more money become more valuable. you will work for what you think your effort is worth. if you think your worth more then find a job that pays more.
Jon walker You're absolutely right on what the right work ethic is, but if you are literally starving 24/7 then you will find that to be pretty much impossible. The living costs of the Bay Area are insane.
There are ways around it, primarily deflating your living standards to that of a third world country, but honestly 90% of the American conservatives I see could never make it in that kind of situation. Would you honestly:
1. Work away from your entire family for 20 years, having only a visit once a year (if you're lucky) for a 3 day holiday. You will not see your children grow up. They will treat you as a stranger for life.
2. Work 15 hour days 7 days a week on hard labor with no benefits and only 2 holidays out of the year. Want to go to church? Tough luck, that's a fucking luxury and your family will throw a fit if they found out you were taking that much time off (probably divorce).
3. Work at a pace that mandates all products must be completed ahead of schedule by ~30% of the projected work as that's how competitive the markets are. If you complain, you will be fired and blacklisted by the companies of the entire region.
4. Live in one room housing with 6~10 other workers, no heating or AC (though you get a fan). Refrigerators are on you to supply. The only phone you can get is a cellphone.
5. When you are finally done with your 20 year stint, the only thing left to do is to head back home and continue being a rice farmer.
6. The entire time people will constantly mock and ridicule you for being a *dumb piece of shit* who couldn't study hard, get a full scholarship and stipend to university and beyond. No one looks up to hard working dumbasses because they're *dumbasses* who don't have the brains to be anything better.
This usually shuts up the 60 hour workweeker fast.
Work to move. I would do everthing possible to get out of there. find family in other areas that would let me stay with them till I get my own place, get as many roommates as possible and work 2 jobs if necessary. the prime idea would be to get out.
Surely? You make these statements like someone who hasn't had to search for a job in a while. Like someone who hasn't taken steps to better himself only to find that a business generally doesn't care if you have a degree now or that you've contributed more than other people on the team. I know someone who has been in the same career for 5 years without so much as a cost of living increase. He started at entry level pay and is performing analysis on the processes of people who approve/deny insurance claims. He CHECKS THE WORK of people who have a higher pay grade. He has to know their jobs, and then assess how well they're doing and suggest ways to improve it. How did he get paid so little in the first place? He needed to support a family and was afraid if he didn't agree to the wages, he wouldn't get the position. Negotiating may not be a "bad" thing, but it might mean the difference between getting a meal on the table... or not.
People who can just leave one company and go to another for better pay.... I don't really ever hear of something like that in real life. You see it on TV. You hear of it when top executives are poaching some guy from a company, and I don't know if that happens anywhere for real.
Your vague and over-simplified statement of "well, go somewhere that will pay what you're worth" is silly. Life doesn't work that way. If it did, people would all just be in the jobs they belong in. SIMPLE in concept, impossible in reality. People need to pay bills, hiring managers know this.
I wish your simplified world view were the way things worked. But if you ever lose your job, and the places you apply to either offer you way less than you're worth or turn you down because you're "overqualified" (IE, we think you want to be paid more than we're gonna pay), then things won't feel so simple. When you're in a position where it's either take what's offered or starve, you'll take what's offered.
This is really sad.
I was taught hard work should be rewarded but I see this is not the case.
Tokuijin believe me, no one has EVER appreciated when I really tried and worked hard. It gets you nowhere. Took me way too long of trying to believe it. I'm pretty sure it's more luck and connections that get ppl places.
Jinx erface
It's skills.
Telling yourself that you aren't successful, "because of luck and less connections" is super convenient right?
People love those excuses. Why feel lazy and nonintellectual, when you can just say, "it's somebody else fault I don't have money"?
But he is not wrong... Usually unless you go faking that you like people, or screwing other people you don't get to become rich, EVEN if you work hard.
Damián Contursi
I can work 24/7 knitting sweaters for people. I would be lucky to be able to feed myself off that.
Work/effort is about as useful as a pile of coal. You need to add value to somebody to make good money.
Just learn to do software development or anything which pays 70 grand a year or more and has almost no unemployment. You will prosper and become wealthy.
kkknotcool yeah but my point is that, you should get paid according to how hard you work. But the system is not like that :P
Oh my god... heaven forbid we pay hardworking adults a LIVING WAGE.
“I wrote an open letter to my CEO...” lol
That was classic but this was probably a bridge worth burning. You need to pay your employees a living wage, that's just common sense. We have large corporations getting tax breaks from the government whose employees are so broke they also get assistance from the government. That does not make sense.
I'm not even watching the video, I'm reading these comments.
that's the only way to watch these types of videos.
Can't even decide if the comments are genuinely making me mad or not. I just keep scrolling.
Tai Perez True that
Tai Perez since you don't want to watch the video I'll just tell you that they complain about people not actually reading the public letter Talia Jane wrote and just consulting articles that took her out of context.
The irony of this statement pertaining to the current topic is palpable.