Making music from space | Unknown Devices Eisei Devlog 01
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 มิ.ย. 2024
- First episode of the Eisei Devlog. More to come!
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Woah
Looking forward getting my hands on one of those! Subscribed and waiting eagerly to support your Kickstarter.
Words cannot describe how excited I am about this module/project. I think about it almost every day...LOL🤓
I know a lot of Eurorack people don't like screens but if you're going to use one, this looks like the most fun out of them! Nice work so far.
I don't mind screens one bit. In fact I have the video out expansion for the NerdSeq. It's the amount of patchable control that matters to me.
It looks like form over function. Not to say that's a necessarily a bad thing if what you're looking for is a fun, unusual way to play a synth, but personally I'm more interested in the actual sound production over a (very very cool) UI.
This is awesome, I really love learning more about the development process! Looking forward to more devlogs!
There's so much to admire here, from the hardware design to the product finish to the animations in this beautiful video. I've just finished a Rackbrute 6U and modules like this have me regretfully looking at bigger cases. Amazing work Ciro + friends.
Looking forward to the kickstarter!
Seee!? I always say the best modules are made by programmers that can design aswell ✨ (I can only design lol)
I liked the smaller size, but looking forward to seeing the final form 🤘
Wow, this is really interesting, it sounds and is exceptionally beautiful.
I find the UI / UX very convincing so far. Would love to get my hands on one. I will try to stay up to date. Great work.
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I like your approach. It somehow reminds me of a young Kurenniemi.
DOOOOOOPE!!! As a lover of Modular AND Astrophysics I'm already in "Shut up and take my money" territory. Can't wait for the Kikcstarter! One potential idea for an expander (and apologies if you've already thought of this), if you have four trigger outputs for when each Satellites enter the Scope, and four gate outputs that would remain high for as long as the Satellite is in the scope, then you would have a wicked way to trigger rhythmically related events all around your system!
Ohhhhhhh and maybe one extra trigger out somewhere that fires every time all the satellites are in conjunction?
✨📡 this guy has good ideas 📡✨
Man, the UI of this thing demands to be played. Props on this video as well. I haven't even started my eurorack journey yet but watched the whole thing because of the quality.
Ok, you have my attention...🤯
This is ridiculously brilliant. I wouldn't keep it from being a jack-of-all-trades, and here's why:
First up, while there's been a parade of JOAT modules over the years, they all seem to fall into "areas" of the typical Eurorack gamut. JOAT modules in of themselves are actually rather diverse, tbh. And while there ARE modules that are capable of doing nearly ALL functions (oughta insert a typical Modular grid satire build with ∞ rows of ∞ hp of Maths here), they eventually settle into users' mindsets as one thing or another.
Which gets back to this module. AFAIK, that control paradigm lends itself to A LOT of possible controller uses. Poly-mod wheel? Slapping several together in a LONG cab to make something like an armonica? Fun with comparators to mess with sequencing? The analog version of one of the "Electroplankton" instruments? Some infinite source of curves to make this The Analog Thing sitting about 5' away go berserk? The "motor" for a Leslie as redesigned by M.C. Escher?
Yeah! That and more. But DO let the firmware "sprawl" in terms of potential uses for a huge variety of users. Then you get the fun of watching this thing go places you'd never envisioned.
Except for one really, REALLY serious ergonomic issue...
If you box in the "controller" part between three walls of jacks...how do you expect anyone to enjoy using it AS a controller?
Consider: when you have users who view the bottom row as being the "controller/interface row" in sensible system design, it makes way more sense to relocate ALL jacks to the top of the module. By doing this, you remove the "box", allowing better live performance control. It also keeps yr.typ patchcord snarl away from the control surface (unless your patchcords obscure everything for three feet in all directions, at which point you either need therapy or to leave your Bandcamp in the replies. Maybe both, who knows?).
Seriously, tho... there's been a lot of other controllers over the years, and aside of something hooked to a MIDI interface and various touchplate schemes, there's really not been something that offers quite such a simple, elegant interface on a module that's also a very potent springboard for many sorts of sonic AND control explorations. Just that one UI change, and this will be absolutely perfect!
Geez...this thing AND Maths...? Makes my brain bleed!!! 👍
Beautiful concept 🧠🪐
Awesome presentation on this video, and the time and effort you're spending on the UI development really comes through - nice work ✨
Again, really looking forward to hearing and seeing more. Perhaps experimenting with it! ⚡️
This looks absolutely beautiful. That round screen with planets is such a wonderful concept. I see that all of the previews of the expanded 18hp version are in white, but hopefully the design will stay black? It helps a lot with the whole cosmos aesthetic
Yes, We tend to design using the silver panel as its easier to read the layout and balance, but the black version will always exist
@@UnknownDevices_ Great! Thank you!
So exciting! Super pumped for this module. Space in case = made. 😃
This is what i call a good UI/UX :) I also love the sound design of this video, congrats for everything and good luck.
Wow signing up to get one now!
Amazing job! Can’t wait to see more of your progress!
wow...this is unbelievable.
I want really cool devices like this, your instruments are truly pieces of art.
Looks really nice! Love the UI/UX 🥰 Hope to hear more of its sonic capabilities in the near future too!
This is absolutely fantastic and what a insanely well done video. This is honestly the exact type of thing I have been looking for and have so far been unable to find. I dare not say how much I have invested in my gear but this would likely complete it with the space I have remaining.
Very cool. I also appreciate the more tech intensive description!
great idea and looks beautiful!
beautiful module, great presentation, that's how you do it. Excited about this.
Looks incredible!!
This looks absolutely incredible!
So cool -
Subbed 👍
So inspiring! I love everything about this. From the concept, to sound, graphics and video ❤
Thank you Roey!
Subscribed! I'm eyeing this module on your instagram page for a while. Count me interested. Good luck!
Cool idea and very well executed!
great synth, well designed and brilliant video
Honestly hope you keep the smaller form factor the UI seems great but obviously don't know how everything goes! Would be great as an lfo too though!
stunning!
super nice script and voice over next to all the good stuff people have commented on already! ❤
This is awesome!!! 🎛️🤟🏻🤖⚡
Great Project. 👍
count me in :D i really love the round display and touch plate. i must say so, i like the bigger panel better :)
Really cool idea! 👌
These Shirts Look dope!! Might get one.
Module too!
Respect for what you have already! I’m not sure it needs to be any bigger mate. Think of Plaits. Think of ways to get all the same “extra options” without blowing it up to be huge. But also I welcome roomy stuff where all the controls make sense. Wonderful work so far. I saw your concepts for a long time on discord: it’s way cooler than i ever imagined it would be
I am very intrigued!
that. is a super cool interface!
Reminds me of the famous Droneo App because of the visual Interface!
Wow, this is such an inspiration. I will code stuff like this one day. So cool!
That display is awesome!
Oh my god this is from the future
Super clever design! Especially the various collision algorithms. Very very cool!
Something tells me that the next episode will be about em :)
Looks lovely.
looks fantastic...
I hope that new details will be published soon. The device is so interesting that I'm holding back on other purchases.
Awesome module and video👌 you definitely got a new subscriber out of me! 🎹🎛️🎧👍
fantastic!
Out of this world!
Really cool project!!
fantastic design!
so cool!
OMG hyped for this module, which has not happened for absolutely ageeees
I'm in!
Lovely module!
Sign me up !
Unreal
This is insane 😮
As a software engineer myself I appreciate the technical details and love the dual-controller approach. I’m also interested in getting into embedded programming myself and was wondering if there are resources you recommend ? Im aware of Daisy and bought their Petal (before it was discontinued) but would really love to design Eurorack modules but don’t know where to start.
lovely, it sounds like it uses feedback oscillation. love the quality of the shifts in the modulations. would lovecto hear how it handles high audio-rate mod but it sounds great in this vid. that scope thing is cool too. i am curious about all the available scopes. fancy bit of kit! thanks for the demo. i'll keep watch!
WoW.. im wiilling to beta test this device for sure... i'm not a youtuber who is going to sell the unit ... im a musicien and im in eurorack since the first Doepfer system... let me know!
Very Creative
SIGN ME UP
Have you solved the three body problem, tho?
That looks so sick. I'd love to hear a more "musical" demo or maybe some harmony with quad oscillators (unless they're only for frequency modulation?)
i really hope firmware update will be an easy procedure also for Mac users, because it looks like never ending programming process in a good way , the idea is beautiful! 😻
Yes this is an important topic, for development I have to flash the two boards separately and I hate it in every way, but we're already looking for a solution with electrosmith's engineers.
def to do it ! to vcv also pls
My first thought was: damn some one else was a bit faster ( I received the pcbs today ) but than I realised… he is on to something else…😅
Nice gui, interesting concept, good luck and maybe a cooperative future
Reminds me a bit of NI Reaktor Spiral. Nice
Same here Spiral is great! This module could be too.
Loving the look of this!! But one request - would it be possible for the final version to have all the jacks at the top or bottom of the module? From an ergonomic point of view, trying to reach a touch interface with cables poking out above and below the touch area is less than ideal...
I'd suggest to put the jacks on the top of the module, as it's meant to be manually played, no?
Pleassssse !
wooooooah! So cool! Where can I get one? It kind of reminds me of Norns which I think is super neat!
Man this is so pretty. Would pair well with my Clank Chaos!
yes, an all Italian rack! :)
super nice idea behind the module, very inspiring! what is the program/software used to develop de module that appears at the beginning?
It's Visual Studio Code
That is impressive! If you don't mind me asking, how does that touch encoder work, is it just a series of capacitive touch sensor contacts?
Yes, there are 8 interleaved capacitive sensors. In the software I find the one with the highest value and interpolate it with the neighboring sensors
Really nice module. Really surprised you‘re using Aseprite for the graphics. I‘m already dreaming about new sprites
Yes! Even tho there are very few actual "spites" in the project (and most of them for the intro animation ) but Aseprite give me a fast way to test UI ideas
Can I get a “Syzygy trigger”? (A trigger everytime all satellites align)
😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
I hear I2C,
I see a teletype,
This beauty going to have teletype support?
Lovely module! Out of curiosity: How much of the graphics did you implement in polar coordinates? Or is it Cartesian coordinates all the way? :)
Great question! let's say 50-50, most components use polar coordinates but the position/anchor system is Cartesian
ESP32, eh? Might want to have a quick look at the open-sourced Ableton Link code that's available for it, too - would be lovely to sync this directly to the studio daw.
is the central touch control an evolution of an ipod interface?
Do you have the gui firmware available anywhere? Its very impressive!
I do! You can find it here: github.com/unwndevices/eisei_oled
Subscribed! A question: Are you handling inputs (especially DC inputs like V/Oct) with the Daisy or with the ESP32 and other necessary hardware? (I ask because Daisy frankly has terrible inputs, especially for calibrated DC requirements.)
Analog inputs are processed on the daisy as the esp32 has even worse analog inputs 😅 I didn't explore their precision and noise performances yet but so far it already outperformed the esp32
Thanks for the info! It really is a shame that the Daisy ADCs are so poor, as it is otherwise a great little platform. You’ve got a promising module in the works here; I’ll be keeping my fingers crossed for ya.
Take my money ;)
This is wildly compelling. I'm not even into Eurorack and I kind of want this, just because it's so beautiful.
If you're willing to humor some questions from a fellow geek, what screen are you using? Most of the round displays appear to be RGB and GC9A01-based. But the question that will haunt my dreams tonight... did you seriously build an ECS framework from the ground up to handle the graphics on this module? That's one heck of a rabbit hole, but huge if true. I would love (kill) to get my hands on an ECS mcu graphics framework.
First thing first: I've lied to all you, the screen is square, a pretty common 128x128, 4bit, ssd1327-based display, masked by the round touchwheel.
The game engine is ECS-ish, it's loosely based on "ThatGameEngine", misses some features I don't need yet (collision/quadtrees) and it's a bit messy in some places but it really shines when building ui scenes. The engine is available here: github.com/unwndevices/eisei_oled , and any help in maintaining it is appreciated (again, I'm messy, you should see my room).
@@UnknownDevices_ you sly fox! I found myself wondering if the display was square after I posted. You must cover one side of the through-holes when soldering so the pin headers don't pop up. Weirdly, I'm kind of jealous of your greyscale support, which doesn't seem like a thing in ssd1306 world, at least without quickdraw hacks that divide your FPS.
Important question, since this video has me rethinking the UI on a non-Eurorack, non-sound producing, not space-themed piece of music gear I've been working on all year: would you be happy or sad if I borrowed the spirit of your "round" display + capacitive ring approach to replace the crappy rotary encoder that is at the center of my design? I have gone through five stages of grief with the physical impossibility of making it support faster turns; your concept is superior in every dimension.
Drop an email address if you want to chat off YT comments!
I would love this being imported to vcv!
Yes, me too! Its already planned but it will take probably time, but sooner or later it will be ours!
@@UnknownDevices_ the moment it comes out take my money 😂 it would likely boost hardware sales too since I know a lot of people like to test things in vcv before committing to hardware
Holy shit… I WANT ONE!!!!!
What’s the status on this?
So, is this unavailable??
Will there be i2c support for Crow/Norns?
Yes, still a bit early for the actual implementation but hardware-wise i2c is already supported