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As one gets stronger and deabsorbs from any bad thought then one starts becoming much more transparent in taking responsibility for ones thoughts. So one needs to take full responsbility for any thought one have but that is amazing knowledge to know that we are responsble for any thought and hence we are in full control of any thought we have. Even if one catches oneself in a bad thought one says "I did this". One becomes much more sensitive to not allowing any non-deliberate thinking. Ones transprency and responsbility become stronger and stronger. One asks oneself "What am I doing now?" and "why am I doing it"? is there any end game in this of "I dont want this I want that?" Such questioning of ones intentions behind ones thoughts becomes much more applicable after layers of coverup of bad thought habits gets purified through restraint that obscured and hence prevented the person from becoming aware of his intentions behind his thoughts. Like how can one anyone become aware of his intention behind his bad thought if he is already completely absorbed and inside of the vicious circle of the bad thought first one needs to deabsorb from it then when one have stepped back then one can start seeing the intentions and motives behind ones thoughts and then a bad thought can arise on its own and then one have the option to not engage with it.
Now, that's a new manner in Buddhism. Human honesty straightway tackles vague abstracts like recalling one's endless past lives or seeing the reincarnation of beings in Samsara. But I'm not sure who'll win. Human honesty is the basis for all intellectual and philosophical speculations but those two Buddhist ideals, I perceived, has never been attained before since the time of the Buddha because it is either so individual an insight that only the Buddha can attain it, or it is merely nonexistent.
Thank you Venerables for this very helpful video that speaks about responsbility and being transparent in regards to ones intentions behind ones actions. Bhante spoke in one of the videos about the Buddha using the simile of the wild elephant where Buddha describes that one needs to tie the wild elephand down basically it is describing what a beginner should do to his vicious circle of bad thought habits. That is exactly how it was for me as a beginner I learned from one of the videos on this channel named thought master where Buddha gives 5 differnent ways of resting a bad thought and one of them was that one presses the teeths against each other and intentionaly deliberately stop thinking the bad thought and then for the first time in ones life one learns how to deliberately break that vicious circle of bad thoughts. Now the mind becomes light and strong and one stepped back from being absorbed in ones bad thoughts and even if a bad thought arises on its own one have the option to choose to not follow it. While a beginner dont have this option of choosing not to follow it because he is already inside the vicious circle of the bad thought and carried away by it.
Translation... don't purposely play games with words , and realize when you are ( you will your human). Attain the ability to truly reflect, exam , and Critique your actions like you can do ro others actions. Only u know when you have reached that level
As a candle u have to be careful being in a room to long with other candles.. the temperature rises the light eventually fades, but no one has been feed and the dark Ness spreads .. Upon reaching enlightenment, I like to hear these conversations as there is a " ooo I see what he means" ..I then translate it to what I call natural language that the average person .working paycheck to paycheck can understand even tho they don't have time for that stuff 😅. Beacuse they need to get where they are going.
Contemporary focusing techniques simply and effectively debunked : why do you want to meditate? Because i want to get rid of suffering.... Could you imagine suffering on account of anything if you don't want anything at all and you don't mind to loose anything? Ahh no.... And then why not just let go of the desire ? .....end of the story. If seen from that perspective it seems like meditation techniques are nothing more then a damage control strategy having to make up for my lack of understanding and my lack of restraint. It's me trying to compensate for the disturbances that my lust, aversion and distraction cause by trying to calm myself. Instead of seeing that my intentions are rooted in the desire to control and command phenomena , in particular feeling, which are fundamentally uncontrollable. But that seems to painful to look at.
I don't see it as such, contemplative meditation gives you the opportunity to honestly understand the problem of grasping and desire. You can't just choose to abandon grasping, it would be great if it worked like that. What needs to be understood that different people need different methods.
@@AlexandarShmexyes that’s a great addendum to OP. Actually, what needs to be understood is your liability to create your own suffering, ironically even through your pursuits to eradicate it. Meditation with the intent of uncovering that truth is skillful, while doing it merely to calm down or force some state change into a more “enlightened” or “peaceful” experience is actually furthering your delusion and liability to cause more suffering.
Different meditation techniques absolutely are just damage control, but if you start sitting for longer I'm sure you'd realize the benefit of being able to start seeing deeper levels of craving in your mind. Say you sit down, either in a chair or on the floor and find a comfortable posture and begin your formal meditation session. How long until the urge to move arises? What would be the desire to end the sit at any one point in time? Maybe you need to go to the toilet or genuinely tend to something in the world. But if you allocate a generous amount of time to a single meditation session I'm sure sooner or later the mind will begin to be overwhelmed with the desire to move. Because there still may be clinging to satisfaction through the senses and hence the desire to move. I don't want to feel this pain etc. But will these aches and pains kill me? No, but you can see how your mind will react to it. There's a reason the Buddha instructs meditation. You just want to know what the Buddha actually taught. And if someone isn't a Sotapanna then no matter what they do their meditation won't have right view so it will be in vain. But afterwards, Sotapanna and above, meditation allows you to amplify the mind so you can delve deeper and see where the further work is needed. It's a good tool and should not be easily dismissed. Even the Arahants still "meditated" so to speak, because what else is worthwhile doing in the world? Nothing. There is no satisfaction in the world. So it's encouraged to establish the mind in an appropriate state and why jhana should be pursued. It's not a worldly pleasure, and helps adjust/incline the mind.
@@The-Autumn-Affect let's not forget the very first thing that the Buddha mentions every time he gives instructions for contemplations. ,,There is the case where a monk, having gone to a wilderness, to the foot of a tree, or to an empty dwelling, reflects on this:.." It's quite clear that solitude is a prerequisite for any contemplation recommended by the Buddha. Furthermore we have the AN 6.68 stressing that there is no way for someone who enjoys socializing with others to enjoy solitude and that it's impossible for the one who doesn't enjoy solitude to discern the signs and features of the mind, for the one who doesn't discern the signs and features of the mind it's impossible to acquire the right view and for the one not having the right view it's impossible to acquire the right samadhi. So no right view = micca samadhi. It's also quite clear that contemporary meditation techniques, with its meditation centers for groups or even the puthujhana just sitting at home alone do not fall into these categories. For no meditation technique can substitute for solitude and true non activity which has no need for a formal setting. P.s. as HH says, by all means, sit to strengthen your mind by not acting out of bodily and mental discomfort , you can try to discern that mind that is inclined towards pleasure and its simultaneously present liability to suffering, as well as to contemplate various other aspects of your experience. But don't do it to cover up the anxiety and stress that is fueled by your desires, aversions, your lack of restaint and your lack of understanding. And without having the right view, don't confuse it for samma samadhi. Because that will be detrimental to you. Always to remember : ,,supatipanno bhagavato savakasangho".....the right practice pertains only to the ariya savaka.
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An older talk of ours, that addresses many of the questions we've been receiving recently...
____________________________________
If you wish to support the Hillside Hermitage Sangha and this channel you are very welcome to do so via:
www.hillsidehermitage.org/support-us
These early teachings are a pot of gold. Nothing better than to touch ip on your basics from time to time. 🙏🏽
As one gets stronger and deabsorbs from any bad thought then one starts becoming much more transparent in taking responsibility for ones thoughts. So one needs to take full responsbility for any thought one have but that is amazing knowledge to know that we are responsble for any thought and hence we are in full control of any thought we have. Even if one catches oneself in a bad thought one says "I did this". One becomes much more sensitive to not allowing any non-deliberate thinking. Ones transprency and responsbility become stronger and stronger. One asks oneself "What am I doing now?" and "why am I doing it"? is there any end game in this of "I dont want this I want that?" Such questioning of ones intentions behind ones thoughts becomes much more applicable after layers of coverup of bad thought habits gets purified through restraint that obscured and hence prevented the person from becoming aware of his intentions behind his thoughts. Like how can one anyone become aware of his intention behind his bad thought if he is already completely absorbed and inside of the vicious circle of the bad thought first one needs to deabsorb from it then when one have stepped back then one can start seeing the intentions and motives behind ones thoughts and then a bad thought can arise on its own and then one have the option to not engage with it.
Thank you for the measured clarity and thoughtful explanations. Much gratitude.
Now, that's a new manner in Buddhism.
Human honesty straightway tackles vague abstracts like recalling one's endless past lives or seeing the reincarnation of beings in Samsara. But I'm not sure who'll win.
Human honesty is the basis for all intellectual and philosophical speculations but those two Buddhist ideals, I perceived, has never been attained before since the time of the Buddha because it is either so individual an insight that only the Buddha can attain it, or it is merely nonexistent.
Thank you Venerables for this very helpful video that speaks about responsbility and being transparent in regards to ones intentions behind ones actions. Bhante spoke in one of the videos about the Buddha using the simile of the wild elephant where Buddha describes that one needs to tie the wild elephand down basically it is describing what a beginner should do to his vicious circle of bad thought habits. That is exactly how it was for me as a beginner I learned from one of the videos on this channel named thought master where Buddha gives 5 differnent ways of resting a bad thought and one of them was that one presses the teeths against each other and intentionaly deliberately stop thinking the bad thought and then for the first time in ones life one learns how to deliberately break that vicious circle of bad thoughts. Now the mind becomes light and strong and one stepped back from being absorbed in ones bad thoughts and even if a bad thought arises on its own one have the option to choose to not follow it. While a beginner dont have this option of choosing not to follow it because he is already inside the vicious circle of the bad thought and carried away by it.
The description made at 28:12, very insightful and well expounded.
Wonderful Dhamma.. Sadhu Sadhu sadhu 🙏🙏
Awesome we got a new teaching!!!!
Bhante Akiñcano 🙏
Translation... don't purposely play games with words , and realize when you are ( you will your human). Attain the ability to truly reflect, exam , and Critique your actions like you can do ro others actions. Only u know when you have reached that level
As a candle u have to be careful being in a room to long with other candles.. the temperature rises the light eventually fades, but no one has been feed and the dark Ness spreads ..
Upon reaching enlightenment, I like to hear these conversations as there is a " ooo I see what he means" ..I then translate it to what I call natural language that the average person .working paycheck to paycheck can understand even tho they don't have time for that stuff 😅. Beacuse they need to get where they are going.
🙏
lion's roar from the beginning, sadhu Bhante
Contemporary focusing techniques simply and effectively debunked : why do you want to meditate?
Because i want to get rid of suffering....
Could you imagine suffering on account of anything if you don't want anything at all and you don't mind to loose anything?
Ahh no....
And then why not just let go of the desire ?
.....end of the story.
If seen from that perspective it seems like meditation techniques are nothing more then a damage control strategy having to make up for my lack of understanding and my lack of restraint. It's me trying to compensate for the disturbances that my lust, aversion and distraction cause by trying to calm myself.
Instead of seeing that my intentions are rooted in the desire to control and command phenomena , in particular feeling, which are fundamentally uncontrollable.
But that seems to painful to look at.
I don't see it as such, contemplative meditation gives you the opportunity to honestly understand the problem of grasping and desire. You can't just choose to abandon grasping, it would be great if it worked like that. What needs to be understood that different people need different methods.
@@AlexandarShmexyes that’s a great addendum to OP. Actually, what needs to be understood is your liability to create your own suffering, ironically even through your pursuits to eradicate it. Meditation with the intent of uncovering that truth is skillful, while doing it merely to calm down or force some state change into a more “enlightened” or “peaceful” experience is actually furthering your delusion and liability to cause more suffering.
Different meditation techniques absolutely are just damage control, but if you start sitting for longer I'm sure you'd realize the benefit of being able to start seeing deeper levels of craving in your mind.
Say you sit down, either in a chair or on the floor and find a comfortable posture and begin your formal meditation session. How long until the urge to move arises? What would be the desire to end the sit at any one point in time? Maybe you need to go to the toilet or genuinely tend to something in the world.
But if you allocate a generous amount of time to a single meditation session I'm sure sooner or later the mind will begin to be overwhelmed with the desire to move. Because there still may be clinging to satisfaction through the senses and hence the desire to move. I don't want to feel this pain etc.
But will these aches and pains kill me? No, but you can see how your mind will react to it.
There's a reason the Buddha instructs meditation. You just want to know what the Buddha actually taught. And if someone isn't a Sotapanna then no matter what they do their meditation won't have right view so it will be in vain.
But afterwards, Sotapanna and above, meditation allows you to amplify the mind so you can delve deeper and see where the further work is needed. It's a good tool and should not be easily dismissed. Even the Arahants still "meditated" so to speak, because what else is worthwhile doing in the world? Nothing. There is no satisfaction in the world.
So it's encouraged to establish the mind in an appropriate state and why jhana should be pursued. It's not a worldly pleasure, and helps adjust/incline the mind.
th-cam.com/video/eoe2jZPV8ac/w-d-xo.htmlsi=SrNDWZtBZDso7Ymp
@@The-Autumn-Affect let's not forget the very first thing that the Buddha mentions every time he gives instructions for contemplations. ,,There is the case where a monk, having gone to a wilderness, to the foot of a tree, or to an empty dwelling, reflects on this:.."
It's quite clear that solitude is a prerequisite for any contemplation recommended by the Buddha.
Furthermore we have the AN 6.68 stressing that there is no way for someone who enjoys socializing with others to enjoy solitude and that it's impossible for the one who doesn't enjoy solitude to discern the signs and features of the mind, for the one who doesn't discern the signs and features of the mind it's impossible to acquire the right view and for the one not having the right view it's impossible to acquire the right samadhi.
So no right view = micca samadhi.
It's also quite clear that contemporary meditation techniques, with its meditation centers for groups or even the puthujhana just sitting at home alone do not fall into these categories.
For no meditation technique can substitute for solitude and true non activity which has no need for a formal setting.
P.s. as HH says, by all means, sit to strengthen your mind by not acting out of bodily and mental discomfort , you can try to discern that mind that is inclined towards pleasure and its simultaneously present liability to suffering, as well as to contemplate various other aspects of your experience. But don't do it to cover up the anxiety and stress that is fueled by your desires, aversions, your lack of restaint and your lack of understanding. And without having the right view, don't confuse it for samma samadhi. Because that will be detrimental to you.
Always to remember : ,,supatipanno bhagavato savakasangho".....the right practice pertains only to the ariya savaka.
Who is the name of the other Bhante, btw?
grasshopper
@ThaniyoThero Thank you so much...