2019 Yamaha YZ450F vs 2019 Honda CRF450RWE
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 พ.ค. 2024
- Got to test out the 2019 Yamaha YZ450F today and compare to to my 2019 Honda CRF450R! A few of you guys have been asking me what I think about the new Yamaha 450, so I'm pretty stoked to give you guys my thoughts on it. Really impressed with this bike. Hope you guys enjoy!
Fastest Lap Times:
Honda: 1:17.80
Yamaha: 1:19.55 (1.75 sec slower)
I only did about 5 laps on the Yamaha, so I probably could have dropped that time with a few more laps under my belt.
Instagram: @JeffWalker84
Track: 74 Family Fun Park
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Can't beat the deep,unique sound of a crf
its so satisfying to watch this guys videos. the way he hits and lands jumps is so smooth
Jeff, i just love watching you ride, you are silky smooth and make it look so easy, which i know it isnt. Top man, good luck for 2020, i will be tracking your progress from the uk
''I will be easy on her I promise''... Rides like 10 times faster than me
Plexox i mean 10 times worse than a pro Thats pretty good
Before buying my 2019 Crf450 I was looking at the Yamaha and I gotta say that you are spot on! The biggest downside of the yamaha for me was the small cockpit and This is the reason why I went with the Honda. Honda's suspension is fixable but yamaha cockpit hardly!
Awesome vid again Jeff! You getting subs on a fast rate !!! 2K subs congrats!
You’ve gained a lot of subs lately and you deserve it your really fast and your content is awesome!
Very cool to see what guys at the track just training together have to say v. the magazine shootouts. Cool.
Another great video Jeff. Some third party footage of you taken trackside would be a good addition to your excellent helmet cam footage. If I had a good camera I would have fun taking some for you. Glad you liked the 2019 YZ450f.
Start monetizing these videos so you can make a little bit of money off them. Even if it's only an extra 100$ a month that'll be a couple track admissions ! At the rate your going this could end up being a potential income for you lol how cool would that be
I agree
What is truly insane is a guy this good gets lapped by the top AMA guys (and that is no knock on you.) Just insane how crazy-fast the TOP-FIVE AMA guys are.
No offense taken, those guys are animals! I wish I had the same equipment and got to ride/train as much as them, but we do the best we can haha
@@JeffWalker84 In other words, Jeff Walker can 100% be as fast as they are if he didn't have an unlucky past and had the money.
@@lexify6755 anyone could say that though. I mean tomac doesn't put down 5 second faster lap times then all the competition cause his bikes that much better and he just rides more often.. let's just hope Jeff walker gets a top 25
Thank you for these vids! 🏁🏁🏁
i watched you a couple days ago and the video made you look fast, but i saw you today and you are insane probably one of the fastest guys i’ve seen on a dirt bike🎯
your crazy fast dude
Much appreciated man! How did you like the track? I thought it was one of the best days they've had in a while. Got pretty chewed up and gnarly which I like haha.
Jeff Walker the track was cool but i didn’t have such a good day i couldn’t do anything when i was there because my shock blew up first moto and tried to keep going but made it worst😂
i’m usually pretty fast and i wanted to empress you so bad but i can’t do anything with suspension
@@tristanvillar4138 Haha no worries man, I'm out at 74 pretty much every weekend! What bike and number do you ride? I'll keep an eye out for you
Grate videos bro. Maybe in the future should do like a little how to whip tutorial that would be pretty awesome 👏.
I love the vids bro id love to see more of ur riding without the go pro get to see more of your riding that way any way just a thought. Keeonup the good work
your channel is growing so fast ive been here since 600 subs
Yeaaaahh! I bought a 2019 yz450f at the end of last season, love it. Just bought renthal twinall 996 bend bars (close to Barcias 602 fatbars, about 10mm lower than stock). Talking myself into a full Ti fmf 4.1 system. maybe.
You’re probably one of the fastest dudes I’ve seen on TH-cam
Love your style man
Espetacular! Like from Brazil.
You send that crf so much harder than the yz u actually a really good rider @jeff walker
you are fast!!! cool and informative video , you should change the mapping on yz450 and test again it makes a huge difference ! not sure what map your friend was using ,
Man I could have stood in for you on this video lol.. I knew exactly what you were gonna say about it before you said it. I own the new Honda an I've rode the yzf an the ktm an the kxf an I was blown away by how easy the clutch is compared to the hondas, the feel on the yzs clutch is litterally just as easy as the hydraulic clutch on the ktm! I absolutly hate the clutch on my crf450 after riding the yz an the ktm which I knew the ktm would be easier due to the hydro clutch.. but never thought the YZ450 wit a reg cabel clutch would be almost identical in pull weight an feel between the ktm an the yz.. But the hondas 10 times harder to pull in. It causes arm pump so much faster. But the Honda is way more powerful the bottom end is unreal on the Honda. But in all honesty I had to re valve my forks to get them feeling better an added a steering stabalizer off my 2014 CRF450R an it made a world of diffrence! Now if I could just figure out what yamaha has figured out on there clutches an get mine to feel as good as the yamahas the Honda would be unbeatable! I dont wanna go to a hydraulic clutch so I've been studying on it alot. An Steve litz at Litz Racing has came up with a diffrent actuator arm that give more leverage and also re routes your clutch cable and it reduces clutch pull weight up to 50%. Ima give that a try b4 I spend a few hundred going to a hydro clutch. Hinson has a similar system that extends your actuator arm an reroutes your cabel but it's as much as a hydraulic. But give Steve litz a call at Litz Racing an he will hook u up with a 50% softer pull than stock an that's a big difference! Youd have to call tho cause he dosent have them on his web page because he stays so busy he dosent have time to mess with the web page so it's best to call. Hes a Honda guy to the core. So he has alot of little things to help make the hondas better, that he makes in house kinda like how JGR (Joe Gibbs racing) is they do it all in house an make all of there own parts.
Subscribed. Awesome channel 👍🤘
good video again bro!
power-wise your Honda has the edge since you got the yoshi.
while yami is bone stock.
overall. great video and riding again bro!
Joneses Ente yamy had a full FMF system
@@westcoastfrisco true my mistake. i overlooked that one right there. good catch bro>
Cool video comparison Jeff. Do you know what map you were riding in on the YZ? And the CRF?
You should try and ride a YZ450F with the GYTR ported head and cams and see what you think power wise compared to your CRF450RWE. I have a 2016 YZ450F like that but I doubt I’ll ever ride in Florida anytime soon or you will come up to PA, but just Incase I would definitely let you rip it. I’m curious to the comparison that way. Great video!
Great video do you know what tune was in the Yamaha or was it the stock settings?
keep the videos coming!!
I watched you earlier this week and you had 700 or so subs... now you have over 2k
Throw me that magic
Awesome channel!! How don’t you have more subscribers?! 98kx250 here.
Great Vid!! thx for sharing your thoughts!
Have u tried the longer linkage from ProCircuit to lower the rear and fight the stinkbug feel of the honda?
Heard many good things on it.
Nice! My 2019 yz450fx made a good supermoto (I did a build series), stock suspension and the wide ratio gearbox is great on street. Pulls like a mofo. I can't wait to get it in dirt this coming season.
It's definitely a great bike! Never dabbled in super moto, but it looks fun for sure. Maybe in the future
Would be good to see some vids of you trying/reviewing other bikes.
I have 2017 Honda crf450r I put a factory Honda steering stabilizer on it and it took away the head shake. Night and day difference.
You ride well, from the video(sound) that YZ needs to go down a tooth. Engine speed sounds in between where you wanted to be. Good thorough review. I red ride traditionally, but got a good deal on a 2016 gas gas300. Still desert race my 06 450r & it still rips.
holy cow you're fast!
Do a video comparison of the 2019 KX450 vs the Honda 450
Are u going to do the whole supercross season??
2:37 that was a bit dirty 😂👍
Just got a yz250f today!
damn dude you were really confortable on the yzf! you should try a sxf..
Awesome video as always Jeff!!
But one point is confusing me pretty hard right now...
Space between footpegs and seat top is lower on the Yamaha?????
Whaaaat🙈🙈🙈
As i hopped on a factory CRF 450 from 18, the only thing i couldnt get comfortable with was how freakin small the space between footpegs and seat was.
Legs were kinda cramped and couldnt really grip the bike with my knee bc of that..(im 188cm or 6.2+)
Back on my yzf 250 17 it felt like i had double the space compared to the crf.
So its really fuckin my mind right now that u had more space on the Honda haha
Gotta admit that tge yzf got lower ( 10mm mid seat, 18mm backer seat) but still...
Appreciate your videos very much!
Keep those awesome vids coming😎👍🤙
Vincent Sauer maybe the Honda is wider?
I'm not really sure how to explain it, but that was the biggest thing that both Chad and I said immediately when we got off each other's bikes. I think Dean Wilson said the same thing in his video where he tested a couple different bikes. Is it possible you have lower footpegs on your YZ?
@@JeffWalker84 u are right with Deano...
It just gets more and more confusing haha
My YZF is bone stock.
Ill go and meassure the height from the top of the footpegs to the top of the seat and then i got sth to compare..
But could be that the 19 yzf is just smaller.
Where do you place your gopro?
Also how tall are you?
Because i find it hard to place my gopro in a good position, and its illegal/your license can be taken away if you get caught in my country to ride motocross with the gopro on the helmet (on tracks).
dude ur insane, any wins in LC championship?
Hard to compare them stock to stock when you are on a RWE lol.... Hand ported head? DLC coated fork tubes and shock shaft? In all rights that honda should most definitely have been faster motor wise and it is a shame that you found the suspension on the Yz better, as it is a 15 year old fork design vs Hondas flagship (works replica) spring fork... I own a 19 Honda and rode a buddies 18 YZ and had nearly the same outcome, Honda has a pitiful, unreliable and unpredictable clutch, suspension is great but slightly lacking next to the SSS fork, rear shocks are both good however.
Sweet video though!
Super nice to see someone who can actually ride a dirt scooter talk about them verses the people who can not get around the parking lot with both feet on the pegs talk about "the suspension just didnt work well for me, it's junk"
Dang, Cole, when did you start doing vlogs and stuff? Oh shit, you're not Cole Seely, sorry...JK... Anyway man, your vids are pretty dope. Keep it up my bromie!
That 12 year old KYB tech is still the best stock suspension out there awesome. The 450wre has factory port and polished. I think the yz would make more power than the standard crf.
When you go to SuperCoop next season I would love for you to spin some laps on my 2019 KX 450 and give me you opinion on it in a video like this. That would be awesome to see a pro ride it lol
That would be awesome man, I'd love to try out a new KX!
Have you ever raced at Red Bud? Did you go watch MX of Nations? That was awesome! I want to ride Red Bud this summer.
Absolutely, Redbud is my home track! I'm originally from Michigan and live there every summer with my parents while racing the outdoor nationals. I've been racing there since I was on 65's and have raced the pro national every year since 2014. It's worth the trip for sure!
👍✊ I live about an hour fifteen away, in the west suburbs of Chicago, so ridding that track is on my to do this summer! I’m going to watch the Lucas Oil race over the 4th of July weekend this summer, I’ll keep an eye out for ya! If I get a pit pass, I’ll see if I can find you and say a hello. Good luck this up coming season!
awesome this is what we want to se, would be cool if you could do this against the ktm 450 2018 or 2019
thanks fam
“Go easy on my girl” .... hits rev limiter each booter haha
Jeff, excellent review! Do you know what map your buddy had in the Yam? Did he have the T.P map in it? The Honda is an excellent bike no doubt! (I had a 2018 CRF 450, and now I have a 2019 YZ 450F).
Jeff Brennan How do you like the yz compared to the Honda? I keep hearing that the yz feels really heavy and that’s the only thing keeping me away from buying one right now.
BrocMx786 I have the 19 YZ450 and love it. Doesn’t feel heavy at all. Power is awesome and suspension is incredible. Handles extremely well. I’ve also ridden the Honda WE. Really liked it but it was beyond my budget lol. It didn’t amaze me enough to want it over the YZ. The YZ features like the easy access air filter and tuner app are so cool!
Matt Peevy Thanks man this is some huge help! My dad is currently riding a 2016 RMZ450 and it is just so heavy and really hard to scrub and throw around. I was worried that I’d have a hard time scrubbing the YZ450f but I guess not :)
BrocMx786 No problem scrubbing at all! Seriously, it handles so well. And if you want to see some more proof just check out Dylan Long and Dan Reardon on Instagram. Long just moved to Kawi but both of those guys throw the YZ so hard.
Matt Peevy Thanks for the info man, definitely a big help!
May be just me, but you looked allot smoother on the YammaHammer. And I'm a Honda guy through and through..🤷🏼♂️
The are both awesome machines, I will never use all of the power they produce, but At this point It really comes down to the color of them lol
Cool video
Are you running stuck suspension?? Sweet video
Yeah, still running the stock stuff. It works pretty well! Will get re-valved by Factory Connection soon though
Want to see you do at 2019 KTM 450
Yzf 😍
YZ250 two stroke vs modern 4 stroke?
Two strokes are making a comeback right now but I’m attempting to go the other way. Guys who grew up and continued to ride and race two strokes like myself have little to no perspective on the massive differences between these machines.
Can you compare a modern 2 stroke to any of the 4 stroke Motos you’ve tested?
Try a longer shock linkage it should make the bike feel more stable for sure
sick vid yeww
What map was he running on that yz? I have a 18 and the tp maps hit better than stock
hi men! do you use the tp map on the yamaha?
Thanks for being honest! Yamaha has had KYB suspension For a while that is an awesome set up. I have it in my gas gas 300 and love it. Way better than my ktm wp suspension.
CTV Racing
I've been eyeballing the GG 300's lately but don't think I can give up my vibration free 17 250xc. Is the vibration an issue for you and have you owned a newer (17+) KTM 2 stroke to compare.
Brian H yes I had a 2018 250sx. No I’m sponsored by XC Gear and run a Mako 360. I can’t feel it. It’s not a problem at all. The stock set up isn’t a problem either just not as dampened as the counter balance in the ktm. BUT. That being the only thing that can easily be fixed I like it way more than my KTM. In my mind the craftsmanship and all around balance of the bike through the woods is better. I liked my KTM but I love my Gas Gas. Check out my vid!
CTV Racing
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jeff what do you like better 2stroke or 4stroke
Great fxxxing video my dude #newsub 💯🤘🏾
Appreciate it man!
Hi, i have Yamaha yz450f 2019, but she is too nervous and hard. Do you think, eventyally when i put some exhaust, this thing is gone. Because before i have yz250f and be the same,when i put HGS full, motorcycle are competely diffrent. Thanks...
Q: has you riding postition changed at all from riding a stock 450 before to the works connection 450?
The bikes are almost identical, so my riding position didn't really change. I tried using the front bar mount, but I wasn't really happy with it so I went back to normal
Do a review of the Miami max park
Wow that husky sneak diss hurt my feelings
Did you try any other tunes on the yamaha
Pretty similar laptimes. taking in account it was hard crf and easy yz
Yamaha should make a factory bike too, would be awesome.
How tall are you im 6'5" I'm having a hard time setting up my suspension for the track. Any tips?
He’s 6’3 6’4 I think
What did you do mod wise with your 2018 Crf250r engine? I want to go back to Honda but with how good the Yamahas are I am hesitant.
Everything! haha. Porting, piston, valves, exhaust, ignition, camshaft, etc...It was a ripper for sure! Still think that Yamaha had Honda covered in the 250 department in 2018, but the 2019 CRF250Rs are looking pretty good.
The 2019 yzf 250 is also far better than the previous ones.
The 19 crf thoe had improved on its biggest flaw, the lack of bottom end.
Still not near to the yzf's bottom end thoe
Vincent Sauer I just don’t know if the handling of the Honda is worth getting one and then doing some mods. I don’t completely gel with the old Yamaha but I haven’t ridden the new one.
@@kweaver65 I absolutely love my 2017 yzf 250 over my sxf 250 15 and the 19 yzf 250 is said to be way better handling and cornering, ergonomic wise
Vincent Sauer yeah it’s gonna be a hard decision
Is the cornering easier on the Honda?
Hondas have always been some of the highest bikes for taller people
Yo do you ever ride any east coast tracks near PA? Would love to work on an edit with ya.
I don't typically make it out that way other than when I'm racing the Highpoint national, but i'm hoping to do some more traveling this summer. That would be sick
Jeff Walker Sweet id love to do some filming for ya... what sucks is I don’t really have anyone to film for me so I normally only get to edit my footage. But I mean with your speed and my camera skills I think we could cook up something pretty sick lol
I’m a huge Honda guy but the front end didn’t look near as nervous when you were on the yam compared to your Honda!
Oh yeah, agreed. I was noticing that right off.
Where ur friend get those graphics on that yz450f
Maybe you didn't try to whip but it looks like the yz was harder to throw around.. looking good though👍🏼👊✊
I just got a kx250f yesterday
It would be cool to see the metrics from both.
Is that fmf pipe really stock ?
Which bike felt lighter in the air?
"Both being stock" meaning a CRF450RWE (not a CRF450R) vs a YZ450F with a FMF slip-on or did it have a full exhaust?
Stock meaning no motor work or suspension work. Aftermarket exhausts do next to nothing for performance which is why they're allowed in the stock class at nationals. Furthermore, the goal of this video wasn't to put two stock bikes head-to-head to see which is better. It's just to compare how I like the Yamaha vs the Honda. It just so happened that they were both stock.
But while we're at it, don't forget to point out the aftermarket handlebars and graphics. Those add 5 horsepower at least and completely invalidate this video!!
Do a small tour in your van
What's your height/weight? considering the crf or yzf and curious how the suspension is out of the box as well as footpeg height.
I'm 6'1" 170lbs. Like I said in the video, the Honda cockpit is definitely bigger than the yamaha, but you can always grab some lowering foot pegs for the blue machine and it would be much better.
@@JeffWalker84 right on same height. its refreshing to get an opinion from someone other than a journalist with a low level of experience. there aren't many reviews from fast unbiased riders who actually take the time to go over what settings work. I'm looking at the stock 18 crf but going with KYB kit suspension over the 19 with rwe suspension. what are your thoughts? I know you said the 19 is faster.
I would take the 18 with KYB any day! I think the KYB is just miles ahead of Showa right now. The Works Edition does have a little more power for sure, but throw a high compression piston in the 18 and you're set!
remember you can adjust the power on the yam on the stock bike.
I know Yamaha did a lot of advancements in making it feel not as wide and suite smaller riders. I bought an 18 last season and as a taller rider I liked the 14-17 model better. My 18 YZ450F was a complete lemon and had nothing but bad luck ranging from a replacement motor, starter clutches, and valves. Yamaha has built their brand on reliability and I got short shafted. Moving over to a 19 CRF450 for the upcoming season. You tear it up man!
How tall are you Jeff???
2019 kx450 comparison please
Wich is best to buy first :D
The yam just sounds kinda gutless in comparison, but definitely ain't gutless at all
Hope you get the chance to
Ride a 2019 yz 250F
At least u got a 450
What have you done on the Honda? Did you change anything on it?
The only thing I’ve done is replace the stock clutch springs with stiffer ones from Hinson and replaced the judder plates in the clutch with a regular-sized fiber. Other than that, it’s conpletely stock
Jeff Walker with the way you were running I woulda thought you had works suspension. Keep it up man good luck on your races
@@MrProCircus the 19 450RWE has more aggressive valving in it that's better suited for faster riders.
VlogsWithDev I wish honda woulda put more parts on it to compensate for the extra 3,000 dollars besides hand porting and a slip-on. At least make it the full system
You should really do 60 frames/sec even if it 720p I think it'll look way better bc ur moving so fast