The Combat Power of Oldschool Runescape Items are Changing Massively!

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  • It is finally here! The combat project rebalance for mage weapons, the voidwaker and so much more. Today we finally received the proposed changes for these items and the reasoning behind them.
    Today we are going to be looking at all the nerfs and buffs to see what jagex has been cooking up. How much is the occult necklace getting nerfed and where is that power going? How much is the voidwaker getting nerfed.
    Theres also a ton of other fundamental changes to the game that we are going to cover today as well.
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ความคิดเห็น • 670

  • @jimbosween
    @jimbosween 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +213

    Not buffing Ahrims magic damage is a bit disappointing

    • @ThotWaffle
      @ThotWaffle 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I think it fits with the style of all the other barrows gear. Barrows are all known mostly as a tank set anyway. In terms of accessibility it also is on the easier side to obtain than all the other buffed pieces of magic gear. Like if we're comparing mindlessly running barrows versus chambers of xerics or going into deep wildy to take a chance at the larran's chest, it makes sense to me why it was left unchanged. It was already good at what it was meant to do.

    • @Dyna1One
      @Dyna1One 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Totally makes sense for it's defense stats compared to other robe sets though

    • @Ztaticify
      @Ztaticify 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Arhims has always been overpowered. It's by far the most expensive barrows set and it's never been close

    • @IL_Bgentyl
      @IL_Bgentyl 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fits fine. Has great defense

    • @themosthighvaluemaninthega9048
      @themosthighvaluemaninthega9048 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ahrims not getting a buff completely makes sense. Now there's actually a worthwhile difference between Ahrims (~4/5m from one of the easiest bosses in the game) and Virtus (~80/90m from some of the more difficult bosses in the game). You just want everything to be cheap and easy.

  • @LordRaxyn
    @LordRaxyn 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    The magic rebalance makes sense but I'm pretty sure this makes a lot of setups with anything less than ancestral worse and more expensive, it might balance out with Augury but that means you now have to manage that prayer just to keep up with where we were before.

    • @Omgiamsotriggered
      @Omgiamsotriggered 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yeah feels like a wierd change. But I guess its more rewarding to actually grind and get pieces of gear, because before getting a single 2% wasnt that much of an upgrade, especially since occult was a powercreep, now every gear part actually matters for dps increase. Wont do anything do damage specifically, but just overall rewards getting high-end gear upgrades and keepin its prices stable- if u get what I mean.

    • @LordRaxyn
      @LordRaxyn 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Omgiamsotriggered I like the redistribution of strength, I just don't like the fact that this means almost every magic setup is now weaker and/or less convenient than before. You now need to manage augury and multiple extra pieces of equipment which themselves will offer less defence than what you were likely wearing before so you'll probably take more damage too and after all that you'll be roughly where you were before the change.
      There's also still the main problem with magic, it's significantly less cost effective than anything else so it is only used when other options are unusable or when magic offers utility like barraging. So now magic will be worse for nearly everyone while still being the last resort, the setups will probably be more expensive and the only setups that will be stronger will be the max ones.

    • @Omgiamsotriggered
      @Omgiamsotriggered 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LordRaxyn Right, seems like such a hassle at this point, but them doing this leaves a huge gap in mage gear and offers them opportunity to actually introduce new mage gear with more nieche purposes, especially mid-game tier gear. Dunno what I personally think about it, I was the first one to bash blowpipe change but turned out to be phenomenal for the game, same thing might happen here.

    • @eurasiacentertutorials9518
      @eurasiacentertutorials9518 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It just makes magic even less relevant in the overall game, a skill barely used for bossing outside of extremely high level set ups like the shadow. And now they also gatekept decent magic damage behind a level 77 prayer that you also have to pay for.

    • @daltonwarner8531
      @daltonwarner8531 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LordRaxyn watched my ancestral go up like a whim in a day :D

  • @dako91196
    @dako91196 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +106

    I’m very excited for the damage boost to Augury. It needed it

    • @awwitsHurts
      @awwitsHurts 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      PLEASE, VOTE NO FOR OCCULT! My pure hcim worked hard for 93 slayer!!! I cannot ever use augury or ancestral!! PLEASE SHARE THIS!

    • @dako91196
      @dako91196 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@awwitsHurts hate to tell you friend but this is not being polled. Voice your displeasure to Gagex though. Maybe they’ll change it

    • @noxartorias6553
      @noxartorias6553 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ⁠@@awwitsHurtswhy can’t you use anc or augery? Too scared for cox?

    • @MrEJD
      @MrEJD 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@noxartorias6553cox is piss

    • @JW30000
      @JW30000 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      All magic prayers should have magic damage if augary gets it

  • @nostressstef8924
    @nostressstef8924 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    U have a lot of passion and basic knowledge. Makes these videos simple and natural. Many other youtubers stumble with informing since they lack a bigger picture

    • @awwitsHurts
      @awwitsHurts 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      PLEASE, VOTE NO FOR OCCULT! My pure hcim worked hard for 93 slayer!!! I cannot ever use augury or ancestral!! PLEASE SHARE THIS!

    • @Ztaticify
      @Ztaticify 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@awwitsHurts Luckily it's not polled so players that don't understand game design won't ruin the game

    • @nostressstef8924
      @nostressstef8924 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@awwitsHurts i dont care

    • @polkjmsb
      @polkjmsb 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      lol

    • @Miller73
      @Miller73 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@awwitsHurtsget bent

  • @0life5
    @0life5 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    as a new player I'm glad I purchased my dagon'hai robe set literally hours before these changes were announced

    • @Latinblood59
      @Latinblood59 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Im so upset, I sold mine a few days before! Lol good stuff on your purchase though 💪🏽

  • @masonhales
    @masonhales 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +115

    bought my elder at 9m, sold at 75m.
    thanks for the 7 bonds

    • @Rune_2h
      @Rune_2h 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Huge W

    • @mrsn3sbit888
      @mrsn3sbit888 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Stonks

    • @shawngord8813
      @shawngord8813 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I bought one at 86m thinking they were going to sky rocket how wrong I was xD

    • @Argharrawrrr
      @Argharrawrrr 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I bought 20 elder mauls for 25m ish and just sold all 20 for 75m today. Made literally 1b

    • @unculturedswines5748
      @unculturedswines5748 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      bought 8 at 45m, sold for 84m each. easiest 350m ive ever made

  • @PeeDeeBee_MD
    @PeeDeeBee_MD 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    Jagex has lost it. Every single mid-late game player has trident + occult + ahrims. Now there are no real updates until you can full on send cox for ALL THE UPGRADES
    They wanted to decrease the mid-end game gap but instead theyve increased it x 10000

    • @themosthighvaluemaninthega9048
      @themosthighvaluemaninthega9048 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No real upgrades....? DT2 bosses....? Then just do a bit of COX for augury (which is hella common). Calm down.

    • @РоманВорфоломеев-е7ы
      @РоманВорфоломеев-е7ы 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@themosthighvaluemaninthega9048 is dt2 considered midgame now?

    • @sylvariatzaka
      @sylvariatzaka 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      I really feels like they screwed magic with this update unless you have augury + ancestral

    • @jay1871
      @jay1871 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree but also magic is about to get a buff through monster weaknesses too so we will see how it goes there.

    • @AceofArcadia
      @AceofArcadia 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@themosthighvaluemaninthega9048 just a small 1k hour grind. no biggie.

  • @johnnyboy5135
    @johnnyboy5135 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +318

    A nerf to the occult is just a nerf to magic and further increases the power gap between mid game and end game players

    • @Tyrosus
      @Tyrosus 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

      Say you didn't watch the video without saying it 😂😂

    • @SilharaTheChosen
      @SilharaTheChosen 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

      exactly my thoughts, most players already can't afford late game magic gear and the occult really helped out with mid game magic damage

    • @doloran-
      @doloran- 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +74

      ​​@@Tyrosusthe video didn't do a very good job of addressing that topic at all... Are you sure YOU watched it?
      I just bought an occult a few days ago because it's the only gear I can afford. The pieces that the stats were redistributed to are WAY out of my price range.
      This "fix" is a kick in the balls to players that aren't maxed out on mage and nothing else.

    • @Arkanizz
      @Arkanizz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Didnt you guys see other mage armor is also getting buffed? You can use virtus or infinity before you get ancestral, so stop the drama

    • @l0lan00b3
      @l0lan00b3 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@TheDamiensprinkleoccult gives 3 damage on a lot of spells no idea why people were crying about it.

  • @bknighty28
    @bknighty28 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +177

    Eternals not getting a buff is criminally short sighted.

    • @99str3ngthx2
      @99str3ngthx2 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      How many eternals did you end up buying?

    • @ntquiteramb0
      @ntquiteramb0 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I didn't know they weren't until reading your comment but holy shit that's awful

    • @trooper5987
      @trooper5987 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      nah its great. you dont wanna feel forced to bring boot switch in raids etc.

    • @ntquiteramb0
      @ntquiteramb0 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@trooper5987 you're not forced to if they do more damage. It's just another option

    • @juice6521
      @juice6521 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      All these PVMers crying about having to make more switches.

  • @jawstrock2215
    @jawstrock2215 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    this is why the elemental weakness change is so important for mid lvl players.

    • @dark_matter62
      @dark_matter62 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Literally not a single person is using their brain lol elemental weakness will likely more than make up the difference of these beers for mid game players

    • @eurasiacentertutorials9518
      @eurasiacentertutorials9518 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maybe Jagex SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED THAT in the post. Also I am not convinced it will be good or helpful.

    • @jawstrock2215
      @jawstrock2215 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@eurasiacentertutorials9518 it's 1 blog out of multiple for project rebalance. It'll all one big thing.

    • @dark_matter62
      @dark_matter62 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@eurasiacentertutorials9518 literally is project rebalance part 3. Use a brain cell.

    • @eurasiacentertutorials9518
      @eurasiacentertutorials9518 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dark_matter62 You think everyone is constantly just staring and waiting for update blog posts? Clearly not based on the comments on this one.

  • @Canuckrz
    @Canuckrz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

    Frankly, I hate how much they're nerfing the occult amulet. I would have been in favor of a slight nerf, but I think the bigger issue with the magic system was how useless the rest of the gear was, but now they're taking its bonus' and only applying it to super expensive gear which screws over us midlevel players who already had a rough time justifying combat magic with its expense.

    • @aeiouaeiou100
      @aeiouaeiou100 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I think they should nerf occult regardless of what they do to other gear. The buff is way too massive for an 800k amulet, like they stated in the blog.

    • @ryancampbell454
      @ryancampbell454 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      %100000 agree

    • @jawstrock2215
      @jawstrock2215 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's where elemental weakness comes in. Gives a good bit of the damage back, and more.

    • @TopODaMernin
      @TopODaMernin 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@aeiouaeiou100 so use your brain and think of other solutions..... maybe not nerf it but make the reqs harder for wearing it.... its so simple minded to think the only option is to buff it... it requires 92 slayer... it should be very powerful. Make 92 slayer a req to wear it... or 90-95 magic a req... you dont just go and nerf shit

    • @awwitsHurts
      @awwitsHurts 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      PLEASE, VOTE NO FOR OCCULT! My pure hcim worked hard for 93 slayer!!! I cannot ever use augury or ancestral!! PLEASE SHARE THIS!

  • @shanemcfarland-gp7jk
    @shanemcfarland-gp7jk 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    when you think about it the abby whip is also very over powered for its price and requirements. its stats should be halved and redistributed between the scythe and torva..... a terrible blow for irons and casual players generally

  • @mccarko
    @mccarko 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    Augury getting % dmg will let you do more damage in the gauntlet than before

    • @awwitsHurts
      @awwitsHurts 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      PLEASE, VOTE NO FOR OCCULT! My pure hcim worked hard for 93 slayer!!! I cannot ever use augury or ancestral!! PLEASE SHARE THIS!

    • @jcru102
      @jcru102 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      ​@@awwitsHurts sit

    • @yungsmorc6462
      @yungsmorc6462 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Owned ​@@awwitsHurts

    • @Patkilla7558
      @Patkilla7558 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cox is safe for HCIM. Sit

    • @ntquiteramb0
      @ntquiteramb0 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      ​@@awwitsHurts I didn't want occult nerfed but you're making me wanna vote yes tbh

  • @milancerpwns9358
    @milancerpwns9358 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    dagon hai and infinity get mage dmg bonus but ahrims gets nothin,rip the last items giving barrows life lmao

    • @mrsn3sbit888
      @mrsn3sbit888 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yeah wtffff

    • @Ztaticify
      @Ztaticify 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Barrows was already incredibly strong. It doesn't need a buff

    • @Omgiamsotriggered
      @Omgiamsotriggered 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wont change anything about barrows tho? They are still a strong choice for either pvp or pve, and dagon-hai/infinity take way longer to obtain (at least on an ironman) than barrows.

    • @ntquiteramb0
      @ntquiteramb0 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@Omgiamsotriggeredguess you haven't went 100+ chests dry for an item

  • @King-balloon
    @King-balloon 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Spent year and a half getting 93 slayer on iron literally finishing 3 weeks ago and they nerf the occult.
    Absolute bollox
    What’s the point of even playing iron man if they just gonna nerf everything I grind for

    • @XGARBAGExBO2
      @XGARBAGExBO2 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I agree. I'm 90 ish slayer and was kinda looking forward to the magic damage but im probably not getting it now.

    • @King-balloon
      @King-balloon 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @viewer_21 I am and I will

    • @Steven-hq3go
      @Steven-hq3go 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Slayer drops are cheap for non-ironman. The game balance isn't ideal sometimes when trying to cater to both players

    • @MHScald
      @MHScald 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Updates should not be for people who restrict themselves. Dont play ironman if this is how you act

    • @godofcodu13itch
      @godofcodu13itch 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@MHScald updates shouldn't be based on the cost of items either though.

  • @OnyxSilas
    @OnyxSilas 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I’m not even a PvPer tbh but I genuinely feel like the nerf to the ancient godsword was uncalled for lol when the voidwaker, claws and even AGS can 1 tick your max hp, I feel like having more ways to heal in a fight is optimal if they’re just going to add more weapons that can effortlessly stack you out, despite you combo eating perfectly. Idk though, I mainly used the ancient godsword at solo bandos and I love it lol so I’m glad they didn’t change it for pvm I guess.

    • @Oogie187
      @Oogie187 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I know it doesn’t seem all that strong but paired with the lightbearer its really broken in a deepwild outlast fight

    • @sylvariatzaka
      @sylvariatzaka 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Oogie187 Wasn't that really all it had going for it though? SGS is usually better in PVM anyway, and if they nerf it, what niche roll does it even fill anymore?
      It's way harder to get than the other godswords and now its special attack is one of the weakest.

  • @EngageTV
    @EngageTV 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    OLDSCHOOL WHERE U AT!
    The streets need u to talk about the insane prices of E maul and other tings 😢

  • @nobobonobo
    @nobobonobo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I'm never gonna financially recovery from this

    • @philliam111
      @philliam111 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      i sold full inquisitors 2 months before this, oh and full ancestral lol. So dont worry you could be felling like me right now

  • @HughMungusXD
    @HughMungusXD 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I just wish we'd get an Oldschool Classic, the 2007 port with no future updates, only bug fixes and bot bans. Then we'd never have to worry about the system getting constantly "updated" and changed.

    • @RSgaming1337
      @RSgaming1337 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      then you'd have the dead game that OSRS would be now if it never get updates.

    • @morganhunt8051
      @morganhunt8051 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m in favor of most of the big changes recently and upcoming(except some of this magic dmg stuff) but yeah the more the game changes I wonder how long till an OSRS Classic comes out

    • @Ragatokk
      @Ragatokk 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RSgaming1337 Not so sure, think the updates up until eoc was better than what we got 2nd time around.

    • @ihatepeople_
      @ihatepeople_ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think right before EOC update would be perfect.

  • @masterownsu7573
    @masterownsu7573 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    I wish Mod Ash was the owner of jagex.

  • @sonsprinter
    @sonsprinter 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    So glad I just got 99 mage bursting with occult necklace. Whew!

  • @MaxiemumKarnage
    @MaxiemumKarnage 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Occult nerf is such an insult to anyone who isn't a whale with bis mage gear, hoping this goes to poll so I can slap down a nice "no" spec

    • @djjordan9696
      @djjordan9696 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No it doesn’t . You’ll get %dmg from infinity and other robes WAY before 93 slay, thus boosting mid game mage dmg. Sit

    • @MaxiemumKarnage
      @MaxiemumKarnage 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @djjordan9696 Okay mod, hyped to vote no. Infinity is ugly

    • @MaxiemumKarnage
      @MaxiemumKarnage 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@99splashing77 L

  • @fisnoun8639
    @fisnoun8639 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Crazy that a 50% buff to nightmare still isn't enough to make it worth doing. Still takes 3x as long to hit the orb rate vs a shadow (for solo 500s at least), for items that are less consequential

    • @morganhunt8051
      @morganhunt8051 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I mean you also gotta take into account the difficulty of camping solo 500’d efficiently versus doing Nightmare

  • @1423bdog
    @1423bdog 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    would be nice if we could get a magic damage boost to void robes so they arent completely useless now. it isnt just ahrims thats getting shafted with this rebalance. they have always left magic behind on the damage front and made high level gear a bit underwhelming. you could make the extra 6% from occult be locked behind an untradeable quest drop that is like dt2 for occult

    • @RajFallen
      @RajFallen 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think that would be a really cool idea for the occult

  • @fartsmckool8897
    @fartsmckool8897 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    Kinda bummed eternal boots won't get any love.

  • @fullysick7082
    @fullysick7082 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Buff to chaos Eldar robes would be nice for pures

  • @scooterfoxx
    @scooterfoxx 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    im really looking forward to the reaper axe, i feel it will make it much more useful in pvm/pvp

  • @KeytarArgonian
    @KeytarArgonian 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The amount of people forgetting that elemental magics are getting an insane buff, up to 100% weaknesses on some NPC’s is just being glossed over here. I do agree it’s weird that pricing is the measure that jagex seems to take issue with in terms of the occult. Why not just lower the drop rate? I’m glad it does give things like infinity and augury a use though.

    • @JW30000
      @JW30000 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      People are considering how this impacts PvP though too and there seems to be some bias on what builds get buffed or nerfed from this.

  • @KillingDemons
    @KillingDemons 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Cool, now when are they going to handle the bot situation?

  • @wiebebolhuis9441
    @wiebebolhuis9441 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This change made me more happy about buying augury for only 450k

  • @timespace6525
    @timespace6525 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    video so well structured, it's like reading a pamphlet

  • @peiro6007
    @peiro6007 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Finally the nightmare drop table buff is so needed. Got 400 kills and never saw a drop there

    • @awwitsHurts
      @awwitsHurts 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      PLEASE, VOTE NO FOR OCCULT! My pure hcim worked hard for 93 slayer!!! I cannot ever use augury or ancestral!! PLEASE SHARE THIS!

    • @Ztaticify
      @Ztaticify 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I kinda was hoping they'd buff the normal drops a bit too, even if it's mostly supplies. It's one of the grindiest bosses in the game

  • @DanielTheCooliest
    @DanielTheCooliest 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    So based on the max hit updates, would the dark bow no longer be able to actually hit a 48-48? It would roll 1-47? Or am I confused?

    • @Thief-d3c
      @Thief-d3c 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How thick are you? The roll is now 7-47

  • @zoidsfan12
    @zoidsfan12 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm very mixed on this because it kinda screws with a lot of stuff. For instance in gwd you bring an occult, tormented bracelet, and something to autocast blood barrage. It's 4 total inv slots with the rune pouch included. That nerf will actually hurt massively because it means the ttk on the bodyguards is going to go up.
    I overall like the idea of splitting the bonus but it is so engrained into gear setups now that it's gonna hurt.
    Guess I'll grind as much gwd as I can before the update is polled.

    • @juice6521
      @juice6521 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Gotta bring Ahrims now.

    • @sandervhoutert1738
      @sandervhoutert1738 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      With the augury buff you'd be losing 2% magic damage, it's a nerf but not that big. The kill window for the guards is quite generous anyway so I doubt it'll be an issue.

    • @jeandeasd
      @jeandeasd 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@sandervhoutert1738why nerf an already weak style

    • @sandervhoutert1738
      @sandervhoutert1738 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jeandeasd maybe the early and mid-game gear is being nerfed but early and mid-game magic overall is receiving a huge buff through the elemental weaknesses and autocast delay removal

  • @o_MoJo
    @o_MoJo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ahrims needs a 1% per piece with the body getting 2% I get its suppost to be a tanky alternative but its teir 70. Why is it weaker than infinity?

  • @Cropod
    @Cropod 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    auto cast delay alone is such a good change I just never thought would happen

  • @HTownIron832
    @HTownIron832 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think the lower tier buffs are great for the game. The dragon warhammer is also awesome since I was just about to start that grind. I think that nerf for the late game sets might mean they are about to add something into the reward space

  • @danieljervis495
    @danieljervis495 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Do people forget the Occult Necklace is locked behind 93 slayer to acquire I get that mains just buy it buts at its core it’s not a mid game item

    • @jawstrock2215
      @jawstrock2215 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      True, but also too easy to get from a very popular slayer task... so very common.
      The fact it;s this powerful, and yet super cheap, says everything.

    • @TheVenhammer
      @TheVenhammer 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jawstrock2215not cheap for irons

    • @TheVenhammer
      @TheVenhammer 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@jawstrock2215 Yeah screw the irons who grinded all the way to 93 slayer in hopes of getting a decent magic upgrade.

    • @Ztaticify
      @Ztaticify 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@TheVenhammer So because you grinded an iron to 93 slayer and are bitter about it, every other iron should also have to instead of the issue actually getting fixed?

    • @TheVenhammer
      @TheVenhammer 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Ztaticify Excuse me? How is this benefitting ANY iron that hasn't gotten ancestral? Occult was the most accessible magic damage upgrade as long as you put in the time and effort to get 93 slayer. Do you honestly think its easier for irons to get augury and ancestral? This just makes mid game mage in general worse and super end game better. Don't believe me? Ask any iron which version of occult they prefer whether or not theyve gotten 93 slayer yet.

  • @dreamerdark0
    @dreamerdark0 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    How do they think balancing the game around Grand Exchange item prices is a good idea when they literally sell gold through bonds, this is nothing but a cash grab to make people feel like they need more money to progress, and even for ironmen it forces them to either farm MTA, do clues for 3rd age??? or do end game raids to make back the magic damage loss.....

    • @Ragatokk
      @Ragatokk 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      imagine, profit incentive drives the game development, no way right? it's only the same company that did wheel of fortune.

  • @camelbro
    @camelbro 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Their reasoning for nerfing occult might be some of the dumbest shit I've ever read in my life

  • @questerskillz
    @questerskillz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    so is virtus gonna stay at 2 and 4 % on ancients or we gonna get 8% on ancients now.

  • @PatserSteve
    @PatserSteve 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I don’t see the problem with the occult tbf. Everyone can afford it, also players with ancestral. So they won’t really notice the difference in dps would they? So why make the mid game suffer from the nerf. And why is Ahrims not getting a slight buff?

    • @grandcanyon2
      @grandcanyon2 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      basically jagex runing the game for the top 1-5 percent of players, how many players have 420 magic ancestral set.

  • @TapoutTanK52
    @TapoutTanK52 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    More stuff I can’t afford. Neat!

  • @Aperson439
    @Aperson439 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The elder maul price fluctiations lately, due to the buffs its getting as part of project rebalance are crazy.

  • @Benzoperidol
    @Benzoperidol 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    When are they dropping oldschool oldschool runescape so i can play in peace

    • @Priest_Of_Zebak
      @Priest_Of_Zebak 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think soon with the upcoming private server thing they're going to implement.
      Game is cool where it's at.
      Only reason we left was eoc not because of random updates.

  • @essayboi
    @essayboi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They are actually likely not going to nerf the voidwaker - per the Jmod comments on reddit. You stated it as if they absolutely are but this is just proposed changes.

  • @burntfish123
    @burntfish123 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Bis mage getting buffed and everything else getting nerfed is a horrible move. And adding % to level 50 gear but not to ahrims because "it's the tanky set!" leads me to believe the jmods play a different game than the rest of us. Tank robes? Really? Even the tankiest melee armour in the game has very niche limited uses.
    The worst style at mid game going from the worst to the worst but even less damage is not the move.

    • @jawstrock2215
      @jawstrock2215 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      How is everything else getting nerfed?
      The occult was always way too overpowered for how easy it was to get and share. Smoke devil is one of the best slayer task, everyone that lvl do them, so neck are always flooding in.
      Also, don't forget that elemental weakness should also come in. In the end you would still have more dps in the midgame.
      You can also farm infinity at pretty much any point of the account, which has the bonus magic damage on it.

    • @accent11270
      @accent11270 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not buffing ahrims is a huge mistake. The defense bonus is totally negligible and even still it has a 70 defense requirement to justify that. I challenge jagex to find one example where Ahrims would be better over the buffed dagonhai robes.

  • @hunter66630
    @hunter66630 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I guess Ahrim is useless now.
    Since when do you go for a tank mage build, only to sacrifice damage?
    In pvp you want the extra damage, in slayer, you want the extra damage, when bossing you also want the extrta damage... Ahrim will be useless now.

  • @JoeyyyBoyyy
    @JoeyyyBoyyy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    SO what's the point of the occult necklace requiring 92 slayer to get then? Literally 0 bonus for grinding to that level.

  • @JW30000
    @JW30000 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Elder chaos robes and maybe enchanted robes should have magic damage and the other magic prayers should have magic damage if augary gets it.

  • @Ls400-Lexus
    @Ls400-Lexus 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i agree with the magic being spread around to other things especially early/mid game items. I think the elder maul update is a good start but its still a mega rare same as tbow/sythe/shadow/kodai which all have either special effects/damage bonus/best in slot for that style. its a basically a slightly better warhammer is all. Also only +17 better accuracy that hammer/d defender and +12 better than hammer/avernic and if you can never miss a hit what's the point compared to the hammer. Not sure what they could add but i feel like it needs what they propose+something else if its gonna be a mega rare item. It will be a spec only weapon like hammer is now plus this game is all about dps so buffing stats might not make sense because no one will use it after they spec but maybe they can think of some type of an effect.

  • @klynton2791
    @klynton2791 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the video flipping osrs! I do wish though that they would be able to come out with material at a faster rate… having just gotten my dwh at 17k kc kind of stings but nothing I can do about it

  • @SairasSiika
    @SairasSiika 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Pures getting rekt with the occult nerf👁️👄👁️

  • @2NextLvL
    @2NextLvL 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How is your tendinitis? Did you get over it? If so, how? Im struggling for like 2 years now :(

  • @RottenWorm
    @RottenWorm 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    you make great content, you are the main osrs content maker whom videos I watch and look out for.

  • @tylerhayes9808
    @tylerhayes9808 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Elder maul should have a passive that deals bonus % of enemy current hp damage.

    • @Ragatokk
      @Ragatokk 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Could have been something like bonus 0.5% of max hp.

  • @bdfgdfghdfhgfitdfyutdtydry
    @bdfgdfghdfhgfitdfyutdtydry 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    changing how damage rolls is just sacrilege. jagex updating shit just to do it.

  • @Kerosberous
    @Kerosberous 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    How the hell am I supposed to get out of the mid game if they keep nerfing the mid game?

  • @assassinsoutdoors1293
    @assassinsoutdoors1293 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Always look forward to a new flipping old school video!

  • @YewJackOSRS
    @YewJackOSRS 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love the magic dmg % shifting around. Actually makes all the random armors feel a bit more useful.

  • @nostalgic7821
    @nostalgic7821 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Imo they've added too many new items in a short amount of time

  • @LilChichi
    @LilChichi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    1 def pures getting the short end of the stick, as non of the armors buffs will apply to pures. I thought they’d buff maybe the seers ring or wizard boots for at least the mid game

    • @CitriReg
      @CitriReg 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      No shit level your defense then

    • @grandcanyon2
      @grandcanyon2 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@CitriReg its one reason we have all these pvp item nerfs such as g-maul etc. These pures have 1 defense then complain the game isnt suited for them when they choose to have 1 defense.
      They want the benefits of offense power without drawbacks of have low defense lvls.

  • @ZeroPhilosopher
    @ZeroPhilosopher 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Using barrows as an example between the necklace and the ancestral set just seems like a terrible example.

    • @MaxiemumKarnage
      @MaxiemumKarnage 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Mods don't play the game, they just listen to Redditors

    • @ZeroPhilosopher
      @ZeroPhilosopher 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MaxiemumKarnage sounds accurate

    • @eurasiacentertutorials9518
      @eurasiacentertutorials9518 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Insanely perplexing

    • @grandcanyon2
      @grandcanyon2 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MaxiemumKarnage no its these streamers and top 1-5 percent playerbase they lisent to. Gaming companies never learn, never build your game around the top 1-5 percent of your playerbase, you just will encourage real-world trading and botting and scamming.
      If you make items so hard to get only 1-5 percent of your player base can get it, folks are gonna rwt or scam to get said items.

  • @IL_Bgentyl
    @IL_Bgentyl 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Main thing they need for bosses that are hard to reach is easy to obtain teleports. Example after your first kill you can tele there. Then the drop rate isn’t as much of an issue. We also need a mid game consumable melee weapon like the blowpipe, trident.

  • @Magebank
    @Magebank 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Infinity viable now?

  • @FireomanGaming
    @FireomanGaming 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    1/120 changed to 1/90.. isn't that a 25% buff not 50%?

    • @Monyepi
      @Monyepi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s a 33,33% buff

    • @Ragatokk
      @Ragatokk 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yes it is 25%, most people are dense.

  • @trippsmclovin
    @trippsmclovin 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pray boost for cg gonna go crazy on shard grinds

  • @jordyjordz55
    @jordyjordz55 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So i log on one day... And now i max hit 28 instead of a 32 because of the nerf to occult(im an iron and i dont have endgame mage gear yet) now the grind is even slower... S**t like this pisses me off and just pushes me further away from the game. At this point may aswell just delete the slayer skill.

  • @huevote9474
    @huevote9474 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can someone explain to me the minimum damage thing? I don't understand what they mean when you will at least hit a one if you pass the accuracy check, if you pass it you will always hit something no?

  • @natejewell8002
    @natejewell8002 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dag I think should get a prayer boost instead of damage percent. Also it would be nice to see the eternal’s get some damage boost. I think everything else looks pretty good

  • @Noxsolum
    @Noxsolum 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like the magic changes, I think the nerf to occult may be a little strong, 5/6% would be slightly better or spreading some extra power out to other midgame items would be nice! Everything else is pretty spot on! Love how Jagex keeps everything fresh!

  • @doloran-
    @doloran- 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Not a fan of the occult nerf at all. That necklace was hard carrying me through mid game content.
    Just makes my playing experience significantly less enjoyable with no upside.

    • @jawstrock2215
      @jawstrock2215 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That is exactly why it was way too OP.
      also there is a lot of things to counter the nerf.
      You will probably have better dps after the changes too.

    • @TheVenhammer
      @TheVenhammer 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jawstrock2215as an iron who grinded to 93 slayer i definitely will not have better dps after the nerf. God forbid i want my slayer grind to be worth the time i put in.

    • @MaxiemumKarnage
      @MaxiemumKarnage 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@jawstrock2215 nerf whip

  • @Machinist_2
    @Machinist_2 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Most of these magic rebalances are pretty good. Although, it would have been nice to see stuff like the Eternal Boots, Malediction Ward, etc. be adjusted as well. Particularly in Defence, and Damage. Same with the Ranged items as well. I’ve always believed that the Eternals/Pegasians & Malediction/Odium should be IDENTICAL in stats, but just have opposite DAMAGE bonuses for their respective combat styles. That’s how I personally would have designed them. Otherwise, I like where the game is headed. - Machinist_2

  • @GrubbsandWyrm
    @GrubbsandWyrm 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Arrggg!!! I just bought the occult necklace to get my bonus to 100 for a clue scroll. Is it even worth using now?

    • @mattbell3130
      @mattbell3130 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Could be wrong but think it's worse than a furry for a mid level player (90 magic) in ahrims vs zulrah.

    • @GrubbsandWyrm
      @GrubbsandWyrm 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mattbell3130 idk. I'm just trying to do my scroll

  • @Rjm00
    @Rjm00 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’m glad I sold off my eldritch orb during the colosseum hype can buy it back for cheap now

  • @overdonenames
    @overdonenames 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    An indirect bandos sword nerf, a midgame mage nerf and buffing the elder maul to the best spec weapon in the game for pvm. That's uhh, that's cool I guess.

  • @l0lan00b3
    @l0lan00b3 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The real issue with it is that accuracy, and defensive stats even, are basically arbitrary as far as dps are considered. On the other hand thank god I sold my bank off during the last boom

  • @InsertNameThere
    @InsertNameThere 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Theyre doing nothing but making this game more grindy and less fun for casuals. 800k for 1 necklace is pricey for a mid game player. The economy is shot and the gap between early/mid gane and late game is digustingly massive.

  • @Thelivecoach
    @Thelivecoach 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The fact Shadow + ancestral is almost absolutely useless without ice ancient sceptre and elidinis ward to catch the freeze if you're soloing anything shows you dps has never been the issue. At the moment magic is nothing more than: caught freeze? OP. No freeze go to lumby. It made way more sense to add sleight defensive bonuses to the armors and lowering magic damage across the board to counter freeze being the unbalanced factor that makes or break the whole combat style.

  • @itsjust_naana5000
    @itsjust_naana5000 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    should put a slayer req behind the occult, still takes forever to earn one for accounts that need to work for it.

  • @FortifiedIllusion
    @FortifiedIllusion 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yay finally got the slayer for occult and its getting nerfed and ahrim isnt even getting a dmg buff thanks jagex forcing raids even more

  • @cannottrust3710
    @cannottrust3710 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    If you didn't have max mage you probably can't afford it now

    • @lambchu6459
      @lambchu6459 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      *Stares in Iron*

    • @jawstrock2215
      @jawstrock2215 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm not sure why ancestral would go up in price really. since overall damage doesn't change much.
      The dt2 robes might go up though, they'll be better then ancestral is now.
      ahrim will go down, and infinity and dagohai will probably go up.
      rest might stay the same(alch price for most of it anyway) or go down to it

    • @MaxiemumKarnage
      @MaxiemumKarnage 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      - whale

  • @Doomsons
    @Doomsons 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ancient godsword didnt need a balance in pvp.... it literally never hits so the 25 health was nice when it 1/10 times did

  • @HTownIron832
    @HTownIron832 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Okay now make the slayer level to get the occult more reflective of what it gets you.

    • @jawstrock2215
      @jawstrock2215 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The bis mage neck not good enough for you?
      Hydra not good enough of a slayer target either?
      Smoke devils not a good enough task for you to do without it?

  • @xInfiniteGaMeRsX
    @xInfiniteGaMeRsX 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So will the occult necklace no longer be best in slot for magic necklace? or will it still be best just getting a nerf

  • @Quasar_MB
    @Quasar_MB 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does this mean the shadow has gotten an indirect nerf here? What’s the new max hit with the shadow after these changes compared to now?

    • @MaxiemumKarnage
      @MaxiemumKarnage 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Buffed due to anc changes, this is pandering to whales and it absolutely sucks. Voting no unless this is "an integrity change"

  • @harrym740
    @harrym740 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Occult comes from a lvl 92 slayer monster.. it should be very very good....

    • @hawkotf3524
      @hawkotf3524 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      That only really applies to irons, for mains they can just buy it on the g.e and skip the 92 slayer requirement

    • @retromunkey
      @retromunkey 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      For something so strong it either needs to be rarer, only dropped from thermy (rarer but different) or nerfed. They've chosen to nerf it along with the other balance changes. Its been 9 years in the making.

    • @poro3246
      @poro3246 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It should. And +4% is still very very strong. Other items had +0% and are now getting 1 to 2 %. It will still be the highest dmg boost a single item gives.

    • @jawstrock2215
      @jawstrock2215 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It can be sold on the GE, and smoke devil is one of the best slayer task around.
      It's very easy to get, yet it was stronger then a full armor set from a raid.

    • @user-bt5sx4cr2h
      @user-bt5sx4cr2h 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Give it a 95 magic requirement to wear , if people are so concerned about it

  • @espurrjelly
    @espurrjelly 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So looking at the changes to magic in general that they are planning in adding the nerf to the occult isnt that bad due to the buff to magic via elemental weaknesses and even less of an impact with tome of fire and searing pages and sunfire runes. Kinda hope we get tomes of air and earth added in to the game at this point.
    I am thinking a lot if people need to actually look at everything as a whole instead of looking at one thing that by all means was waaay to good for its price. Im not a fan of nerfing at all -6% is a massive drop and if nothing else was changing i would actually be ticked but thats not whats happening so many changes are happening to combat that the nerf ends up being insignificant and brings it inline for the pricepoint for mains. (Rip irons)
    Overall these changes to magic are fine people just arent looking at the whole picture

  • @Saccitykid
    @Saccitykid 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can us pures get a dam Ornament kit for wiz boots to turn them red to match the Elders...

  • @UrbanFoxRed
    @UrbanFoxRed 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    give it 8-12 months before we get a brand new 10% mage ammy for end game mages worth 80m

  • @Amer_ica
    @Amer_ica 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was super hesitant about all these huge changes, but this proposal is very solid and understandable

  • @arranrowsell9728
    @arranrowsell9728 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    disappointed to see a nerf to the occult without any changes to ahrims. as an iron i almost feel like ignoring the occult for longer as it wont be as much of an upgrade as before. for irons the occult is a rather late game item and it felt like a huge reward, locked behind slayer and a rare drop.

  • @DeyaaFaris
    @DeyaaFaris 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    is this gonna be a vote or its confirmed already ? if it is when is the update coming ? thx

  • @brobrochannel2387
    @brobrochannel2387 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The apmeken buff was good, the monkey room can be nauseating

  • @frozencloudzzful
    @frozencloudzzful 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Imagine that, low level players get shafted, while the top end is even stronger when it comes to magic dmg. This change makes sense if done well. It was not done well. Shouldve buffed mystic/bloodbark aswell, shouldnt have buffed augury..
    Occult + mystic/dragonhai/infinity/bloodbark/ahrims shouldve been 10%. 5% dmg from necklace, 3% from top, 2% from bottom. Add those 3 and 2 to virtus/ancestral aswell and its done. Everyone still has the 10% and in mage gear nothing changes.
    Hell buff mage void aswell. 🤷

  • @rustytoyota
    @rustytoyota 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm an Ironman : I think Ironman mode broke the game. It really exposed a lot of " flaws " in a MMO that wasn't meant to be solo. I've stopped playing so many times because of Drops. I might just start all over on a normie.

  • @codybrown2732
    @codybrown2732 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Love grinding to 93 slay on the iron to get shafted

  • @OsirisMeta11
    @OsirisMeta11 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Damn Arcane Prayer scrolls about to become very expensive

  • @Zudexa
    @Zudexa 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My 10hp iron obby just got a buff with the dwh droprate change lets go

  • @RoboBlocker
    @RoboBlocker 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Were these changes polled??