Senator Hawley has the balls to confront this corrupted bastards. Mr Hawley , you are a very good senator and great at your job!! Spot on nearly all the time!!!👍
That is rich. The same people that said artificial sweeteners, covid jabs, etc. are safe, they have more of your trust? They are all the same agencies/companies, doing to work of globalists and ultimately the devil...
Love Hawley! Right to the point. My mom was taken by ovarian cancer in 2016 and was involved in the J and J case. I dont give a good god damn about the money. I just want my mom back. The corporations are only interested in staying rich!
One of the most trusted brands in the country, almost irreparably destroyed through greed and deception. It is sad. I hear now that the logo will be changing in an effort to distance the country from its past.
Do you even realize what “at all cost” means? You want me to give my family, my life, everything I have to “protect” a already protected government official? I think you have that backwards! He is not Jesus Christ! He is more protected than almost every American citizen, yet you think us less protected should give everything we have to protect him? Please, stop this insanity! For all you know you could be telling us to protect the Antichrist! No, We The People should protect Ourselves at all cost, Not some government elite!!!
This guy had absolutely no chance against Hawlley! The man does a deep study--and goes even deeper then that when he gets to questioning. I would not mind seeing Hawley as the Attorney General under either Trump or Scott when number 47 finally comes in. Of course--that would depend on whether or not we can survive the final 1.5 years of Byedone's term.
Insurance companies have liability limits strictly outlined in the policies they underwrite and only pay so much.. and If they can prove in court that J&J knew they had asbestos in the baby powder and attempted to cover it up they could fight J&J and not pay a cent forcing J&J to cover the entire cost themselves. They don't fear it because even though it may actually bring down J&J none of them will be held criminally responsible... they just get hired at another company. Its for this reason I believe corporations should not be a legal shield for the criminal behavior that some large corporations seem to engage in. If the heads of a company knowingly place an unsafe product on the shelves that kills people they should face jailtime not just fines.
Why would you say you love this guy (Hawley) and think he should be president? What has he done for you to have such confidence in him? Is it because he’s white?
Josh Hawley is a Godsend in the political arena. I am sitting here with tears in my eyes, remembering my lovely friend who died from cancer at the hands of Johnson and Johnson. This company's products should be avoided at all costs! They have in no way received justice for what they have done to a trusting public. I hold fast to the great consolation that God sees everything....
Band-Aid, Tylenol, Neosporin, Listerine, Neutrogena, Motrin, Clean & Clear, Aveeno, Reach, Purell, Stayfree, Sudafed, Benadryl, Monistat, Visine, Desitin, Mylanta, o.b., Rolaids, KY, Lubriderm, Lactaid, Splenda, Rogaine, nicorette, Viactiv, Rembrandt. And that’s not even the full list of Johnson & Johnson products. They also make medical products for use in hospitals.
When Hawley first entered the limelight, I was skeptical. But after watching many videos of him like this one, I am impressed, particularly by his razor-sharp intellect, logic, and articulate argumentation and by his strong convictions and dogged determinism in representing his state's people and their interests.
I like him, from what I see. But I do want the witnesses to have a chance to elaborate. Just asking a yes/no question doesn't always give the full context.
I would vote for him,,,, In 2028!! But 2024,to get this country back on top, no one can drain the swamp of all the corrupt career- politician leeches and slugs,in BOTH PARTIES. Trump isn't really a Republican,he's a citizen who loves his country and hates the power that the Federal government has given to itself. He knew he had to be in one of the parties to have a chance to be elected, he was a Democrat just like Reagan and the Elites loved them until they switched parties.
Thank you Sen. Josh Hawley for your analytical questioning and never backing down on each and every case you partake in. You are a righteous man and a good leader of our government. You are what others should strive to be, a good man. Thank you for representing the people and our causes. (I'm not from MO but, you make me so proud!) May God Our Heavenly Father Bless you and yours.
I HAD OVERION CANCER. THE DOCTOR SAID IF I WOKE UP WITH 2 CUTS. NO CANCER. I WOKE UP WITH 3 CUTS. HE SAID HE WANTED TO CHECK MY GAULBLADDER, PANCREAS AND LIVER.. I ASKED HIM HOW MY GALLBLADDER LOOKED. HE SAID IT WAS GREAT. THEN I TOLD HIM THAT HE WAS WRONG. I HAVEN'T HAD A GAULBLADDER IN OVER 20 YEARS.
Sue the shite out of pharmaceuticals, doctors, hospital and everyone else related to this atrocity, this is the reason I don't use Doctors, hospitals or pills, I believe they are doing more harm then good with the blessing of our Government.
if you only knew the truth to why the so called doctor was checking you out ....would make your toes curl its beyond evil ......i hope your ok @roxannehanson9826 much love.
Let's stop calling them lobbyists they are corporations that have bought off 40 US Senators & hundreds of House members. DEFUND THE DC CARTEL UNI-PARTY!
@@georgewood7381 Yep its Matthew 5:37 and its not just mere ignorance of the Bible, but most often times it's their willful refusal to read the Word of God, and regardless of anyone believing their is a God, its their willful refusal to even follow the simple morals/principles of dont do it to others if you dont like it done unto yourself
Asbestos in baby powder? No there was nothing deliberate about that was there?! Notice how casual he sounded when he said there was only a trace amount! Johnson & Johnson should be stripped of their assets and forced to go out of business with the proceeds of all of their sales going towards the medical expenses of every single victim! 😬
Actually I thought what he said was very interesting. He said a vendor company to the FDA found in ONE batch trace amounts, but after re-testing found nothing. Hawley didn't allow for full discussion. I'm normally pro-Hawley, but I'm even more pro-truth and really would have liked to have heard all the facts.
@@spacecoastz4026 then why did he admit to there being a trace amount if there was no amount at all? That doesn't make any sense does it? Nor does it makes sense why some plaintiffs were awarded billions and some were awarded $0.00. If there was no asbestos then there would be no lawsuits!
@@xone838 Well, we didn't get to hear the discussion did we? Labs make mistakes. A small sample could have been contaminated. When you test, you don't rely on one single sample..and one lab. The bottom line is we don't know because we didn't hear a real discussion.
Wow... thanks for the post. Hawley was on a mission and definitely got his 2 cents worth. Johnson and Johnson sounds like they need to share their good fortune with the customers who suffered because of it.
As a STAUNCH Republican.......Josh....You asked the ? so let the guy finish. I want to hear his answer, good, bad, or indifferent. This CRAP goes on from both sides of the aisle.
There needs to be laws, and consequences in place for politicians who fail to answer "yes" or "no" to yes or no questions. Doesn't matter if you're republican or democrat, answer the damn question.
Unbelievable gull. Thanks Senator Hawley for your incredible leadership. I used that powder and ended up with cervical cancer. I used powder due to sports and excessive sweating. I began to try the lengthy road to court and suing, gave up because of money involved to do so. Thanks Josh, thank you.
My wife's going through the same thing When She had the tumor removed It had Asbestos She got a lawyer For 3 years now And no lock getting anything She use Johnson and Johnson
Amen to that! But he won't because big money is coming to politicos like Hawley from the likes of Pfizer and Moderna. Pfizie owns One-a-Day vitamins. Look at what a scam those are! Complaints galore about the vitamins being in non-bioavailable forms and also in ultra-minimum amounts but very very high priced. Pfizie is raking in millions on tons of poorly tested and even damaging drugs, vaccines and OTC scams.
@@Contrafactz Well obviously unlike you I know fully well how to wipe my behind. And unlike you, I do not lie, as I buy ZERO J&J products nor from any of their tax dodging affiliates.
They run their mouths with bullshit to run out the clock. Ever notice how Republican witnesses give short, concise, honest answers while dem witnesses tend to try to filibuster and throw in double speak?
Every other commercial is from the damn pharmaceutical industry is sickening, not only that some advertise with a possible side effect of death? Like wtf
Yet i live in a town that had a hospital tore down that was full of asbestos that was 60 ft from a elementary school and daycare and left that building in rubble piled up for 5 years allowing the wind to blow that stuff on them kids everyday for 4 years Me being a contractor called them out on it and 2 weaks later they put up a 4ft chain link fence around it with water sprinklers and a week later had 20 trucks carry it off on a weakend
We need more Hawleys in our Congress. He's right on.
Senator Hawley has the balls to confront this corrupted bastards. Mr Hawley , you are a very good senator and great at your job!! Spot on nearly all the time!!!👍
Yes, Well Said 👍
Hawley is a bad ass Love watching him put these guys in their place. We need more like him not the idiots in the democrats party to fix this country
THen he should introduce legislation that stops what J&J is doing. But he won't because he gets contributions from J&J
This is all theatre, nothing changes.
@@yeagermcbipper9008and you know this how??
All theatre...they keep shoveling, you keep swallowing.
@@Slimedog1963 I don't live in America
well done Josh, hammer time!
Never mind the money, arrest and jail these executives.
Senator Hawley is 100% correct!
He's a total disgrace. Vote for Lucas Kunce in 2024!
@@williamg8269🙄😂
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@lottytaylor572 what have Republicans done for Missouri? Besides trying to take away everyone's healthcare?
This is all theatre, nothing changes.
The way these corporate people have been acting lately makes me think that they could care less.
Root out ALL the corruption!
doesn't help these pharma corps fund the propaganda corps, researchers and politicians
I like Hawley.
However, I have no more trust in the FDA than I do in any other government agency.
Hear, hear!
That doesn’t mean they’re ALWAYS wrong. Even a broken clock is right twice a day
That is rich. The same people that said artificial sweeteners, covid jabs, etc. are safe, they have more of your trust? They are all the same agencies/companies, doing to work of globalists and ultimately the devil...
@@christianbrooks9155 even what you say is too much trust. The government does NOT have your best interests at heart.
No doubt. The FDA does not serve the interest of the American people and our good health.
Love Hawley! Right to the point. My mom was taken by ovarian cancer in 2016 and was involved in the J and J case. I dont give a good god damn about the money. I just want my mom back. The corporations are only interested in staying rich!
Sorry for your loss bro
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My mother died from using their baby powder for so many years along with so many others. Rare cancers from...
Sorry for your loss my brother. May your mother be at peace in heaven and always looking down on you smiling. Blessings to you and your family
I’m so sorry for your loss…
One of the most trusted brands in the country, almost irreparably destroyed through greed and deception. It is sad. I hear now that the logo will be changing in an effort to distance the country from its past.
The claim is "to modernize it" 🤣🤣🤣
@@Always_Thinking "Moderna-nize it" 😂
US corporations aren’t corrupt at ALL
Trusted brands are a thing of the past.
Hawley is a savage and I kinda like it
Protect Senator Hawley at all costs
Do you even realize what “at all cost” means? You want me to give my family, my life, everything I have to “protect” a already protected government official? I think you have that backwards! He is not Jesus Christ! He is more protected than almost every American citizen, yet you think us less protected should give everything we have to protect him? Please, stop this insanity! For all you know you could be telling us to protect the Antichrist! No, We The People should protect Ourselves at all cost, Not some government elite!!!
Yes,Well Said 👍
Agreed! Love this dude. Future president!
Protect him from what!??
Really? He seems to me like an uppity little twerp when he's not running for the exits.
Absolute legend, Josh. You're going to be an amazing President one day
Ditto! He has it All!
100%. Grateful for all Senator Hawley does!
Talk the TRUTH!!
This guy had absolutely no chance against Hawlley! The man does a deep study--and goes even deeper then that when he gets to questioning.
I would not mind seeing Hawley as the Attorney General under either Trump or Scott when number 47 finally comes in.
Of course--that would depend on whether or not we can survive the final 1.5 years of Byedone's term.
I could watch Josh Hawley day and night. And I’d vote for him day and night.
Speaker, President!
Traitor
He’s easy on the eyes as well 😊
There he is, go and get them, Josh. Love you, man, thank you so much, thank you, God bless you.
They don’t fear it. It is why they have insurance. They shrug it off because they make customers, not cures.
Insurance companies have liability limits strictly outlined in the policies they underwrite and only pay so much.. and If they can prove in court that J&J knew they had asbestos in the baby powder and attempted to cover it up they could fight J&J and not pay a cent forcing J&J to cover the entire cost themselves.
They don't fear it because even though it may actually bring down J&J none of them will be held criminally responsible... they just get hired at another company. Its for this reason I believe corporations should not be a legal shield for the criminal behavior that some large corporations seem to engage in. If the heads of a company knowingly place an unsafe product on the shelves that kills people they should face jailtime not just fines.
Josh Hawley is no joke
The witness IS.
OMG! I love Senator Hawley. As I always say you are the best Senator of the US Congressional. God bless you and your family.
You go Josh 👍👍👍👍
Love this guy. Hawley For President!
Senator Hawley would be perfect for an AG position.
I definitely vote for him to be vice-president and then president after president- Trump's four years or up absolutely
Why would you say you love this guy (Hawley) and think he should be president? What has he done for you to have such confidence in him? Is it because he’s white?
I said same
So proud he is my state senator!
Josh Hawley is a Godsend in the political arena. I am sitting here with tears in my eyes, remembering my lovely friend who died from cancer at the hands of Johnson and Johnson. This company's products should be avoided at all costs! They have in no way received justice for what they have done to a trusting public. I hold fast to the great consolation that God sees everything....
Amen!! I'm so sorry for the loss of your friend. My mother used baby powder for many years and died in 2007 from ovarian cancer. 💔😢
This includes those in all forms of govt.
Band-Aid, Tylenol, Neosporin, Listerine, Neutrogena, Motrin, Clean & Clear, Aveeno, Reach, Purell, Stayfree, Sudafed, Benadryl, Monistat, Visine, Desitin, Mylanta, o.b., Rolaids, KY, Lubriderm, Lactaid, Splenda, Rogaine, nicorette, Viactiv, Rembrandt. And that’s not even the full list of Johnson & Johnson products. They also make medical products for use in hospitals.
Geez you’d think we would stop using fillers and stop the Victorian style products that killed many Americans because of greed and ignorance.
When Hawley first entered the limelight, I was skeptical. But after watching many videos of him like this one, I am impressed, particularly by his razor-sharp intellect, logic, and articulate argumentation and by his strong convictions and dogged determinism in representing his state's people and their interests.
Hawley does very good research
Great job Josh!! We thank you!!!
Much respect to Senator Hawley. A lawmaker who knows the law.... that's what Congress should be. 😂😂😂❤❤❤❤
Senator Hawley needs to run for President! He’d get my vote! I’m a Missourian and I can tell you all first hand this is an honest man.
Our federal government doesn't work for us they work for their big pharma, big tech companies that fund them!
He makes me want to move back to the show me state. Show us justice, Hawley gad damnit, save some ass kicking for the rest of us.
I like him, from what I see. But I do want the witnesses to have a chance to elaborate. Just asking a yes/no question doesn't always give the full context.
@@ukaserex Unwillingness to answer a yes or no question and deflect with a word salad - proves the point.
I would vote for him,,,,
In 2028!! But 2024,to get this country back on top, no one can drain the swamp of all the corrupt career- politician leeches and slugs,in BOTH PARTIES.
Trump isn't really a Republican,he's a citizen who loves his country and hates the power that the Federal government has given to itself. He knew he had to be in one of the parties to have a chance to be elected, he was a Democrat just like Reagan and the Elites loved them until they switched parties.
Thank you Sen. Josh Hawley for your analytical questioning and never backing down on each and every case you partake in. You are a righteous man and a good leader of our government. You are what others should strive to be, a good man. Thank you for representing the people and our causes. (I'm not from MO but, you make me so proud!) May God Our Heavenly Father Bless you and yours.
Thank God for you Senator.
I HAD OVERION CANCER. THE DOCTOR SAID IF I WOKE UP WITH 2 CUTS. NO CANCER. I WOKE UP WITH 3 CUTS. HE SAID HE WANTED TO CHECK MY GAULBLADDER, PANCREAS AND LIVER.. I ASKED HIM HOW MY GALLBLADDER LOOKED. HE SAID IT WAS GREAT. THEN I TOLD HIM THAT HE WAS WRONG. I HAVEN'T HAD A GAULBLADDER IN OVER 20 YEARS.
That is so crazy🤯🤯🤯
That is absolutely outrageous. Hope you're well now, and I would've loved to see the look on his face!!!
Sue the shite out of pharmaceuticals, doctors, hospital and everyone else related to this atrocity, this is the reason I don't use Doctors, hospitals or pills, I believe they are doing more harm then good with the blessing of our Government.
if you only knew the truth to why the so called doctor was checking you out ....would make your toes curl its beyond evil ......i hope your ok @roxannehanson9826 much love.
Josh Hawley - you are a legend.
Dick Durben's two favorite words: "Senator Hawley."
Prayers blessings, strength, courage, wisdom and guidence to you and yours josh hawley.
J&j must not be giving him enough kickback..
Josh Hawley 👏👏👏👏👏👏
Democrats demand a yes or no answer but never give one
Because they're ignorant of the Bible. They don't remember the verse, "Let your yes be yes and your no be no." Basically, they lie.
Biggest hypocrites. They also showed up at a Climate Change protest in big diesel busses. 🤯
Let's stop calling them lobbyists they are corporations that have bought off 40 US Senators & hundreds of House members. DEFUND THE DC CARTEL UNI-PARTY!
@@georgewood7381 Yep its Matthew 5:37 and its not just mere ignorance of the Bible, but most often times it's their willful refusal to read the Word of God, and regardless of anyone believing their is a God, its their willful refusal to even follow the simple morals/principles of dont do it to others if you dont like it done unto yourself
@@tymz-r-achangin 👍 ✝️
Asbestos in baby powder? No there was nothing deliberate about that was there?! Notice how casual he sounded when he said there was only a trace amount! Johnson & Johnson should be stripped of their assets and forced to go out of business with the proceeds of all of their sales going towards the medical expenses of every single victim! 😬
Actually I thought what he said was very interesting. He said a vendor company to the FDA found in ONE batch trace amounts, but after re-testing found nothing. Hawley didn't allow for full discussion. I'm normally pro-Hawley, but I'm even more pro-truth and really would have liked to have heard all the facts.
TRACE asbestos found - TRACE is less than 1 %
George Floyd has .12 % of FENTANYL where .02 will kill you but they blamed the COP and his knee ????
@@spacecoastz4026 then why did he admit to there being a trace amount if there was no amount at all? That doesn't make any sense does it? Nor does it makes sense why some plaintiffs were awarded billions and some were awarded $0.00. If there was no asbestos then there would be no lawsuits!
@@xone838 Well, we didn't get to hear the discussion did we? Labs make mistakes. A small sample could have been contaminated. When you test, you don't rely on one single sample..and one lab. The bottom line is we don't know because we didn't hear a real discussion.
You the Man Josh 🇺🇸 I hope I hope this country lasts long enough to c you president 🙏🇺🇸
Hawley needs to be the next Attorney General
Wow... thanks for the post. Hawley was on a mission and definitely got his 2 cents worth. Johnson and Johnson sounds like they need to share their good fortune with the customers who suffered because of it.
We should all stop buying J&J products!
Heck yeah!!! Good job 👏
Thank you Josh God Bless You 🙏🙏🙏 Keep up the great work We The People Thank You for Representing Us ❤🤍💙🇺🇸
❤ Josh!! No nonsense guy!
Hawley made this "top attorney" look like a chump.
You love to see it.
What complete horrible people, unbelievable. They hurt people then use bankruptcy law to get out of helping the people they hurt.
This is exactly one of the reasons that it used to be illegal to own multiple companies.
Love Josh 💪🏼❤️🙏🏻🇺🇸
As a STAUNCH Republican.......Josh....You asked the ? so let the guy finish. I want to hear his answer, good, bad, or indifferent. This CRAP goes on from both sides of the aisle.
Well done sir, BRAVO!!!
Wow. He's the whole package. Handsome as hell, brilliant, caring and a total badass. We could use some more alpha males like him. 💖👍
He is married and has little Children... His wife is very lucky but perhaps his wife is beautiful....
Yes, Well Said 👍
I think he’s a sigma male. Sigmas are quiet until the attack.
There needs to be laws, and consequences in place for politicians who fail to answer "yes" or "no" to yes or no questions. Doesn't matter if you're republican or democrat, answer the damn question.
Yes, absolutely. Forget party, they need to be held accountable. Simple yes or no. No more BS!
I stand with Russell Brand ✊️
Josh Hawley should run for President.
U Go JOHS HAWLEY ur my hero
Is that Hawley from the top rope?? By God, I think he killed a man!
А чего вас ,американец, так возмущает, ведь вам американцы убивать людей в других странах - это же вполне нормально.
pfizer and moderna make j&j look like a kid stealing a cookie before dinner.
Check please!💥
Unbelievable gull. Thanks Senator Hawley for your incredible leadership. I used that powder and ended up with cervical cancer. I used powder due to sports and excessive sweating. I began to try the lengthy road to court and suing, gave up because of money involved to do so. Thanks Josh, thank you.
My wife's going through the same thing When She had the tumor removed It had Asbestos She got a lawyer For 3 years now And no lock getting anything She use Johnson and Johnson
Thank you Senator Hawley for nailing these guys to the wall. They need to be held accountable for their actions.
Keep kickin ass Mr Hawley!! This country needs more like you.
FJB
God bless and be safe, all
Love senatorHaley grilling these evil people, bring them to light!
BOYCOTT J&J !!!!!!!!
Hawley needs to say this to NIH, lobbyists, and all the like of the corruption.
Great Job Senator Hawley,I love how you make him say the truth,
When the recall and lawsuit is more expensive than responsibility up front, we will see change.
2:11 Great job Senator! Get’em! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👊🏻💯
josh is da man!!!!!
Great to see x Australia
He will be President one day!❤
From another Missourian. You go guy !
Their is no profit in cures
I hope Josh Hawley give Moderna and Pfizer the same sentence he gives Johnson &Johnson!
Amen to that! But he won't because big money is coming to politicos like Hawley from the likes of Pfizer and Moderna. Pfizie owns One-a-Day vitamins. Look at what a scam those are! Complaints galore about the vitamins being in non-bioavailable forms and also in ultra-minimum amounts but very very high priced. Pfizie is raking in millions on tons of poorly tested and even damaging drugs, vaccines and OTC scams.
J & J should have stuck to making wax.
@@ContrafactzShow us you don't understand how acquisition works without saying you don't understand how it works...😂
@@Contrafactz Well obviously unlike you I know fully well how to wipe my behind. And unlike you, I do not lie, as I buy ZERO J&J products nor from any of their tax dodging affiliates.
Brilliant comment!
You don’t know what you’re talking about. The wax company is S. C. Johnson, not J&J!
@@Slithey7433 Yes you are 100% correct.
Good man
Wow!
Respect 🙏🏼
Senator Hawley is from Missouri, the "show me state"... also the I'll show you state... Thank you Senator, for the great job you do!
Hawley should let him answer his questions, instead of cutting him off when he starts to say something he doesn't like.
They run their mouths with bullshit to run out the clock. Ever notice how Republican witnesses give short, concise, honest answers while dem witnesses tend to try to filibuster and throw in double speak?
It's time for Haas to go to jail.
It's time all these pharma companies go to jail
@@jack14kd
Then everyone can forage for roots and herbs to treat their afflictions.
Every other commercial is from the damn pharmaceutical industry is sickening, not only that some advertise with a possible side effect of death? Like wtf
Imagine if you hit someone with your car and then sold that car to another person and claim the accident was their responsibility
BRAVO SENATOR HAWLEY
Good Vid.
Thank our Heavenly Father for Josh Hawley. Love the guy. America and Missouri is lucky to have him.
Doctors should have been sued for PRESCRIBING the medications- not the manufacturers. Doctors created the addicts. Not the manufacturers.
That was the best burn I have seen in a minute!
Great job!
People like Hawley and RFK Jr are beacons of hope to this country. We need more of this kind of action being taken by elected officials.
Bravo!
Yet i live in a town that had a hospital tore down that was full of asbestos that was 60 ft from a elementary school and daycare and left that building in rubble piled up for 5 years allowing the wind to blow that stuff on them kids everyday for 4 years
Me being a contractor called them out on it and 2 weaks later they put up a 4ft chain link fence around it with water sprinklers and a week later had 20 trucks carry it off on a weakend
3:20 I can’t lmao 🤣🤣🤣 Senator can barely keep from laughing in his face 🤣😂
A citizen cant file bankruptcy and avoid all liabilities why do corporations get to
Because they pay the right politicians so it is possible.
GO JOSH! GO JOSH!! HELL YEAH!! SHARE THIS INFO FOLKS!! IT NEW NEWS TO ME AND THE PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW!!! 🙏🙏🇺🇲🇺🇲💪💪
Can we get a clapp button! Why us talc in our medicines?
I pray everyday that you a voted in again. I voted for you Josh Amen
This is all theatre, nothing changes.
Sen Hawley is a great American doing great thing's. Get on these clowns
That corrupt lawyer needs to be horsewhipped!