I'm not against using salt but I never use oil or refined sugar in my plant-based cooking (or baking). It isn't just the calories in the oil that are bad, check out what happens to oil when heated and what it does to one's health. On another note about oil, for me, the idea of drinking oil (in plant based milks) really turns my stomach and that's why I always make my own cashew milk. I so appreciate you showing the non-oil cooking because it gives me more ideas on what I can cook and serve.
Hooray! So happy to see you demonstrate that it's not necessary to use unhealthy oil in vegan recipes. And, I was also pleased to hear your remark that NO oil is healthy, not even olive oil or coconut oil.
Derek, you're a good lookin' dude! You look like you're already at a healthy weight with no health issues. Thanks for all the cooking options you offer that help your audience make the change from less animal consumption to more plant consumption. Any change toward more plants is better for us, better for the animals and our planet. That being said, I REALLY appreciate your acknowledgement that there are truly no "healthy" added fats/oils despite your frequent use of oils in your cooking demos. Knowing that, many of us cannot afford to consume high-fat foods and recipes, if we want to continue to lose the fat we've been carrying for years. Perhaps when we reach a more ideal weight, we can "splurge" once in a while, but for now, I cannot express how deeply I appreciated this offering from Wicked Healty, and I hope to see more no-oil demos. YOU ROCK!!!
I guess what I usually do as a vegan is find whatever veggies I have in the fridge and whip out something to eat. It’s a good thing, but it gets hella boring. So this recipe looks amazing and makes the vegan experience much more exciting and creative
Loved this video. I learned how to cook with no oil from you guys on the Plant-strong podcast. And I always press my mushrooms with no oil and they turn out great, nice and brown too. But I noticed in a lot of your videos that you guys are using oil. So I wondered why. Glad to see I am not missing the oil or the added calories. Will continue with no oil. Please post more videos without oil. I love that you guys have flavourful international dishes. I'll be trying your Vietnamese Banh Mi sandwiches tonight.
I love it! I cultivated my own mushrooms just so I could do this recipe with clustered mushrooms. To learn how to do it without oil is great, will definitely adopt this option. Plus the breakdown was super instructive.
Thank you so, so much for doing this. For health reasons, I don't eat oil, but I found your original video drool-inducing and felt envious of those who could dive in and enjoy it! So this is such a welcome addition to your repertoire. Please do more like this or just some more no-oil recipes. I know people are resistant and think oil is necessary for cooking, but a no-oil vegan diet can be very tasty and very satisfying and so much better for our hearts. :-) As, of course, you know from your pioneering work with Whole Foods. I will shut up now and just be grateful we have oyster mushrooms where I currently live in Uzbekistan. Thank you so much and do take care and be safe in crazy Arizona. I love all the signs posted on your fridge and in your kitchen. Can you tell we're in lockdown???
I do not realy get how no fat is healthier . . . The choice and way of usage is way more important than the amount and our bodies need fat for hormonal health and things like that . . . Regulating sugar intakte and focussing in healthy fats is way healthier than avoiding all typs of oil from what I geathered. Fatty fried carbs are problematic, but the problem there are the carbs and trans fat are problematic which is about choseing the right oil while a quite high usage of olive oil as in the mediterran diet are proven to be good for you. . . . But maybe you just have information I do not have or a special condition where things are different for you, I know tomatos are generaly healthy but have to avoid them like the devil myself ^^. . .
@@SingingSealRiana check out Dr Essylsten's work reversing heart disease with a no oil whole food plant based diet. Not slowing down but REVERSING. Dr Neal Bernard also reversed Type 2 Diabetes on a similar diet.
@@taekin9781 ok, do you know from when those are, I know that way back there was a theory like that, but that it got debunked with time, well trans fats are harmful and so is to much Omega 6, but that is not a problem with all oils . . . Biochemestry and the sience of eating are just so complicated . . . Thanks for the point of reference, for me oil free is not an option, I need to take in calories some way, but I stay clear of the more harmful ones and instead use high quality olive oil in cold dishes, which is proven to be heart healthy and coconut oil which does not effect my omega 6 to 3 ratio and can be used in cooking without creating harmful trans fats . . . Complex carbs for caloric intake are hard to come by if you can not have potatos, corn or gluten, and only stomach small amounts rice, oats, millet or legumes . . . Fructose I have to monitor too . . . I need to get calories from fat
@@SingingSealRiana as I said go and check it out. This is just 2 doctors I mentioned above who have helped thousands and thousands of people reverse their diseases on this type of diet. No oil doesn't mean no fat. I love my nuts, seeds and avocado. Don't overcomplicate food by looking at macronutrients every plant has protein, fat and carbs. By eating an abundance of plants you can get all the calories. Just search on TH-cam their names and you'll understand why. Hearing them talk about their work is way better than having me explain it to you. I'm just a messenger. Check out Plant Proof too.
@@taekin9781 thanks, for I love the info, I find it very interesting ^^ If I do not look everything up, there is no way I can avoid malnurishment, I had run the numbers again and again, I would have to eat non stop to get enough protein from things like cabbage and spinach, or zinc. Or enough carb without eating straight sugar... And as much as I love nuts and seeds, I really can not eat all to much of them before I get problems... I really need keep omega 6 low if I want to stay painless. It really is nothing for me, but that does not mean I dismiss it in general, people are different ^^
I must say I just tried the original version of these mushrooms with the oil and oh my gosh !!!! This is a game changer!! Baby back ribs without murder !! Absolutely incredible. I already found a local mushroom harvester in my area less then 24 hours later , LOL. Thank you :)
Howdy neighbor ( I'm in Scottsdale)! I love that you did this without oil this time. I'm definitely going to try to make this now that I know how to do it in a more healthy manner. Thank you so much for this no oil version. I'd like to request more. BTW, I'd love to make a recipe request that I've never seen anyone else do: vegan chick'n cordon bleu. If anyone can do it, I know you can! Thanks again for all you do!
amazing, thanks for showcasing the difference in a video! no oil can sometimes be a struggle, but I hate the oily feel around my mouth when I get takeout or cook with it
We’ve made these bbq mushrooms many times with oil, they are so very good. I appreciate the comparison, will do the no oil method next to try the taste and texture. Honestly, these bbq shroom sammies disappear so fast around here, I’m sure the family will love it either way 😁 Thanks for sharing your thoughts, great video.
This looks amazing! Thanks for showing both ways and going through the reasons for both I love your message about getting more people to go plant-based! It feels like a battle sometimes, but, like you said, it starts just one meal at a time and can be both a mix of wicked and healthy! Looking forward to the next videos!
Thank you, Derek! I wish we could figure out how to get the crispy bits in the no oil version. I miss those bits. It’s not just about calories for me, it’s about the inflammation oils and refined foods cause.
Loved it that you went through both options and explained your thought process etc. Just gives more options and a more detailed explanation for everyone. THANKS!
After watching you do this method on Gaz Oakley, I tried the first stage with my own seasonings and it was great. Real game changer which I plan to do more often.
This video is fantastic! Thank you! I have to avoid consuming oil for hormonal reasons! Dr. Neal Barnard discusses how oil can make acne, PMS, and monthly issues much worse and it's true! I wish it was just the calorie content issue haha!
@@dezuha6452 i do my best to avoid adding oil when cooking. I try to sautee vegetables with a splash of water instead of oil. All my soups are pretty much oil-free. Unfortunately, baking vegan stuff usually requires oil and I've been baking a lot this fall and winter. Oh well! The Yogi Stress Relief tea with Kava root dramatically reduces menstrual pain, but I still get breakouts, probably from eating vegan baked goods 😭 The Forks Over Knives website has an awesome oil-free balsamic salad dressing recipe, which I've been making all year!
hello, i know, it might not be the theme of your channel, but maybe you could do a video on your tattoos. i would love to hear some stories about them. love your videos btw 😍
I’m really impressed on your changed thoughts and efforts to use no oil sometimes. Yes oil is the highest calorie dense food. If I use oil I now use a healthier avocado oil which works really well for cooking because of it’s neutral flavor and high heat tolerance. Thank you for addressing this issue !!
I agree. I use almost no oil, but when I do I use the spray type avocado. So I'm using next to no oil, but still get the non-stick quality when I don't want to use broth or water (potatoes, mushrooms).
@@Tom-sx4tw Yes, I know all oil is processed, empty calories. But for me, sometimes I'm willing to make the trade off, which is why I use a barely measurable amount of spray avocado oil when I want some crisp and sear, which is just not always achievable with water or broth. Thanks for the heads up.
Derek, thanks for the comparison. I have been addicted to oyster mushrooms because of you. I eat mushrooms every day. However a couple times a week I have to make a pressed oyster mushroom with sauce of the day. I guess this is a good addiction. It is the mouth feel that is so satisfying, not to mention the amazing flavor. Thank you! My great Aunt lives in Tucson not far from the Ethiopian restaurant on Broadway. She is up off Countryclub. And of course my beloved Naom Chomsky lives in Tucson now. I have been listening to the stats on COVID-19. I wish you safety and health. Give my love to the beautiful night blooming cereus that grace gardens at this time of year, the feisty male hummingbirds and the cool of the desert night in August.
Thank you for the time and effort you have allocated to this culinary experiment. It was extremely insightful. I do not use oil. When engaging myself within the kitchen. And so, the no oil option, would be my preferred choice.
Had to go fat/oil free due to a recently diagnosed heart condition which made me embrace plant-based whole food fat free cooking. I mistakenly assumed my cast iron pan wasn't oil free friendly. After just seeing this I'm going to go get 2 matching pans after trying the press method for a mushroom taco recipe from Gaz (in which he attributes the process to you). I know recently you've experienced criticism. I appreciate the misplaced passion but fuck the divisiveness. Thank you Derek, what you and Gaz and others are doing is elevating on so many levels. You are appreciated beyond what you can even imagine. And you continue to give years beyond with videos like these.
Going to make the rounds tonight to try to find these mushrooms - my regular grocery doesn’t carry these but I have several other choices so I’m on the hunt! Thanks for doing the comparison - I learned a lot ! 🍄
😋😋😋 can't wait to try. Moving soon, hopefully will find a place with room enough to do a little indoor herb n shroom cultivating...window gardening, if I can't have a bit o outdoor container gardening,will do! 😉🥺😋💞
Thank you Derek for doing the comparison. I cannot find the mushroom steaks where I live (southern Spain). I tend to use oyster mushrooms and pile them on top of each other to try and make the steak. So far it’s been a rare treat because of the oil, I will definitely try the no oil one. How did I know you were going to get them mixed up once they were plated?
Great comparison. If we could stop using oil as a damn food group and start using it sparingly as a functional ingredient (like seasoning a pan or barely coating it to assist a sear) we could practically eliminate a lot of the health issues associated with the use of extracted oils. That being said any time we really don't need to use oil at all I am there. And frankly that is a good deal of the time!
Thank you for this video Mr. Man, its good to see you cooking!!! Great comparison between the two and awesome results. It sure gives confidence not to use oil as a choice! When appropriate (or more often than not), I like to use organic virgin unrefined coconut oil, it isn't liquid until it melts. Its a nice "fatty" flavor. Mix it with a LITTLE Bragg's Amino Acids with it to get a butter flavor, its amazing!!!
Thanks for watching! Coconut oil is still not a healthier choice, we will never say it is.. Especially if it solidifies when it's room temp. we think of oils as more of a tool than an ingredient. Seems to work for us. Cheers!
Awesome. It's not just the calories though, in why not to use oil. It's bc it's bad for the heart. Dr. Greger and some if the other WFPB MDs have info about it. I was vegan 20 years before I learned about it, lol. I used to use oil on everything, but not any more.
That was wonderful. It’s amazing what you can do with mushrooms these days. Do you have a link to your books. We own the wicked heathy. But would like to look at the other one.
I choose to stick to a wfpb diet because I know it's healthier. So, no oil for me. Even though, trying to gain weight, oil and other processed foods would kind of help me, maybe... =)) Thank you for this great video. ;-)
Question and a special request. Can I bulk cook these mushroom steaks and freeze them? Plus I would love to see a cast-iron care video since you are the master. I have cast-iron but I'm unsure if I've seasoned them correctly and unsure how to properly clean them. Would love your take on the matter. I've tried several of your recipes and all have been delicious. Thanks for what you do.
I honestly can't explain why but Derek is just the kind of guy you want to invite over, talk about food, drink beer and then kick his ass at PlayStation 😂
Thanks for showing the detail on this. My mouth is watering! I am having a hard time finding these mushrooms...any suggestions? Also love that you share my use of the F bombs ;)
These are sold in Tesco in the U.K. Try googling growers near you or that ship, farmers markets or Asian markets. It's how we found these when locked down in Arizona.
I wonder if heating the other pan might be a little dangerous because you have to press a very hot surface? You might need the “Ove Glove” or some other thermal protection.
Been doing this for a long time and I don't bother with the top pan, it's not needed especially for unseasoned cooks but do let me know how you get on if you try it.
I LOVE these more technical recipes! Honestly, what a fantastic comparison! I've recently bought my first ever (would you believe?!) bottle of BBQ sauce and was planning to use it on tofu, to grill it later on on the barbeque...but I might change my plans :D Also, aren't they to delicate for BBQ? I don't know if I want to risk- they seem incredibly flavourful and tasty anyways! . Sending the whole team lots of love! Stay safe and have a great day or night!
I just scored some wicked wild channtrells and portabello looking things I was assured are safe lol and restored my cast iron and hav some of my Korean bbq sauce left so I can't wait for this thanks.would live to try the no oil but I hav some budder that's on the way out and can't wast that pricy shit lol.
Another quick question for you: can lions mane be used the same way as these cluster mushrooms? I've surprisingly found lions mane to be more readily available at the grocery stores than the cluster mushrooms.
I think it's fair game to try this technique with just about any mushroom you can find! Of course the outcome will differ slightly in taste and overall textures, but the cooking process should change much at all. Let us know how it turns out!
in theory, a better method would be to pressure cook your mushrooms for a minute or two, to soften the walls which will help release the water faster when pressed Then use a small amount of oil to help release the water faster, when pressed, then just hot air(no oil) as it can get hot while touching more of the inner surface of the mushroom walls, which means more flavor!
🥰🥰🥰🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦 “that shit’ll kill ya” - sure will. I started having chest discomfort 3.5 years ago. I stopped animal products (WFPB) and 3 months later my discomfort stopped. My younger sister didn’t believe she was at risk and one month ago had quadruple bypass. I feel I found out about this lifestyle JUST IN TIME! I love lions mane steaks! Love your videos. In Canada so no Wicked here. Damn.
Awesome, please do more oil free recipes!!!
More no oil dishes please…this looks so delicious.l would love this to help the family see vegan low fat is yummy too.
I cooked with oil for years and no longer am able to. So glad to see a no oil recipe that looks delicious!
I'm not against using salt but I never use oil or refined sugar in my plant-based cooking (or baking). It isn't just the calories in the oil that are bad, check out what happens to oil when heated and what it does to one's health. On another note about oil, for me, the idea of drinking oil (in plant based milks) really turns my stomach and that's why I always make my own cashew milk. I so appreciate you showing the non-oil cooking because it gives me more ideas on what I can cook and serve.
Thank you for no oil version we need more of this
Hooray! So happy to see you demonstrate that it's not necessary to use unhealthy oil in vegan recipes. And, I was also pleased to hear your remark that NO oil is healthy, not even olive oil or coconut oil.
Glad you enjoyed this one...we’ll be doing more!!
Derek, you're a good lookin' dude! You look like you're already at a healthy weight with no health issues. Thanks for all the cooking options you offer that help your audience make the change from less animal consumption to more plant consumption. Any change toward more plants is better for us, better for the animals and our planet. That being said, I REALLY appreciate your acknowledgement that there are truly no "healthy" added fats/oils despite your frequent use of oils in your cooking demos. Knowing that, many of us cannot afford to consume high-fat foods and recipes, if we want to continue to lose the fat we've been carrying for years. Perhaps when we reach a more ideal weight, we can "splurge" once in a while, but for now, I cannot express how deeply I appreciated this offering from Wicked Healty, and I hope to see more no-oil demos. YOU ROCK!!!
I guess what I usually do as a vegan is find whatever veggies I have in the fridge and whip out something to eat. It’s a good thing, but it gets hella boring.
So this recipe looks amazing and makes the vegan experience much more exciting and creative
. So happy I found this video. All I eat is veggies in my fridge.... boring!! lol
Loved this video. I learned how to cook with no oil from you guys on the Plant-strong podcast. And I always press my mushrooms with no oil and they turn out great, nice and brown too. But I noticed in a lot of your videos that you guys are using oil. So I wondered why. Glad to see I am not missing the oil or the added calories. Will continue with no oil. Please post more videos without oil. I love that you guys have flavourful international dishes. I'll be trying your Vietnamese Banh Mi sandwiches tonight.
I love it! I cultivated my own mushrooms just so I could do this recipe with clustered mushrooms.
To learn how to do it without oil is great, will definitely adopt this option. Plus the breakdown was super instructive.
Thanks for saying so, Juliano!
Thank you so, so much for doing this. For health reasons, I don't eat oil, but I found your original video drool-inducing and felt envious of those who could dive in and enjoy it! So this is such a welcome addition to your repertoire. Please do more like this or just some more no-oil recipes. I know people are resistant and think oil is necessary for cooking, but a no-oil vegan diet can be very tasty and very satisfying and so much better for our hearts. :-) As, of course, you know from your pioneering work with Whole Foods. I will shut up now and just be grateful we have oyster mushrooms where I currently live in Uzbekistan. Thank you so much and do take care and be safe in crazy Arizona. I love all the signs posted on your fridge and in your kitchen. Can you tell we're in lockdown???
I do not realy get how no fat is healthier . . . The choice and way of usage is way more important than the amount and our bodies need fat for hormonal health and things like that . . .
Regulating sugar intakte and focussing in healthy fats is way healthier than avoiding all typs of oil from what I geathered.
Fatty fried carbs are problematic, but the problem there are the carbs and trans fat are problematic which is about choseing the right oil while a quite high usage of olive oil as in the mediterran diet are proven to be good for you. . . .
But maybe you just have information I do not have or a special condition where things are different for you, I know tomatos are generaly healthy but have to avoid them like the devil myself ^^. . .
@@SingingSealRiana check out Dr Essylsten's work reversing heart disease with a no oil whole food plant based diet. Not slowing down but REVERSING. Dr Neal Bernard also reversed Type 2 Diabetes on a similar diet.
@@taekin9781 ok, do you know from when those are, I know that way back there was a theory like that, but that it got debunked with time, well trans fats are harmful and so is to much Omega 6, but that is not a problem with all oils . . . Biochemestry and the sience of eating are just so complicated . . .
Thanks for the point of reference, for me oil free is not an option, I need to take in calories some way, but I stay clear of the more harmful ones and instead use high quality olive oil in cold dishes, which is proven to be heart healthy and coconut oil which does not effect my omega 6 to 3 ratio and can be used in cooking without creating harmful trans fats . . .
Complex carbs for caloric intake are hard to come by if you can not have potatos, corn or gluten, and only stomach small amounts rice, oats, millet or legumes . . . Fructose I have to monitor too . . . I need to get calories from fat
@@SingingSealRiana as I said go and check it out. This is just 2 doctors I mentioned above who have helped thousands and thousands of people reverse their diseases on this type of diet. No oil doesn't mean no fat. I love my nuts, seeds and avocado. Don't overcomplicate food by looking at macronutrients every plant has protein, fat and carbs. By eating an abundance of plants you can get all the calories. Just search on TH-cam their names and you'll understand why. Hearing them talk about their work is way better than having me explain it to you. I'm just a messenger. Check out Plant Proof too.
@@taekin9781 thanks, for I love the info, I find it very interesting ^^
If I do not look everything up, there is no way I can avoid malnurishment, I had run the numbers again and again, I would have to eat non stop to get enough protein from things like cabbage and spinach, or zinc. Or enough carb without eating straight sugar... And as much as I love nuts and seeds, I really can not eat all to much of them before I get problems... I really need keep omega 6 low if I want to stay painless.
It really is nothing for me, but that does not mean I dismiss it in general, people are different ^^
I just bought this mushrooms today I’m glad you showed the no oil 👏👏👏
I must say I just tried the original version of these mushrooms with the oil and oh my gosh !!!! This is a game changer!! Baby back ribs without murder !! Absolutely incredible. I already found a local mushroom harvester in my area less then 24 hours later , LOL. Thank you :)
Howdy neighbor ( I'm in Scottsdale)! I love that you did this without oil this time. I'm definitely going to try to make this now that I know how to do it in a more healthy manner. Thank you so much for this no oil version. I'd like to request more. BTW, I'd love to make a recipe request that I've never seen anyone else do: vegan chick'n cordon bleu. If anyone can do it, I know you can! Thanks again for all you do!
So grateful for the no oil demonstration. Thanks!
amazing, thanks for showcasing the difference in a video! no oil can sometimes be a struggle, but I hate the oily feel around my mouth when I get takeout or cook with it
Thank you so much for making the no oil recipe comparison. please make more comparisons like this with no oil comparison for every member in home.
We’ve made these bbq mushrooms many times with oil, they are so very good. I appreciate the comparison, will do the no oil method next to try the taste and texture. Honestly, these bbq shroom sammies disappear so fast around here, I’m sure the family will love it either way 😁 Thanks for sharing your thoughts, great video.
This looks amazing! Thanks for showing both ways and going through the reasons for both I love your message about getting more people to go plant-based! It feels like a battle sometimes, but, like you said, it starts just one meal at a time and can be both a mix of wicked and healthy! Looking forward to the next videos!
Thanks for watching!
Thank you, Derek! I wish we could figure out how to get the crispy bits in the no oil version. I miss those bits. It’s not just about calories for me, it’s about the inflammation oils and refined foods cause.
Yumm! Thankyou! Thrilled to see no oil and gorgeous steaks
Loved it that you went through both options and explained your thought process etc. Just gives more options and a more detailed explanation for everyone. THANKS!
I love the steaks both ways! I love this method of cooking mushrooms.
Thanks! Agreed, we love these mushroom steaks!
After watching you do this method on Gaz Oakley, I tried the first stage with my own seasonings and it was great. Real game changer which I plan to do more often.
This video is fantastic! Thank you! I have to avoid consuming oil for hormonal reasons! Dr. Neal Barnard discusses how oil can make acne, PMS, and monthly issues much worse and it's true! I wish it was just the calorie content issue haha!
So, do you use any kind of fat?
@@dezuha6452 i do my best to avoid adding oil when cooking. I try to sautee vegetables with a splash of water instead of oil. All my soups are pretty much oil-free. Unfortunately, baking vegan stuff usually requires oil and I've been baking a lot this fall and winter. Oh well! The Yogi Stress Relief tea with Kava root dramatically reduces menstrual pain, but I still get breakouts, probably from eating vegan baked goods 😭
The Forks Over Knives website has an awesome oil-free balsamic salad dressing recipe, which I've been making all year!
hello, i know, it might not be the theme of your channel, but maybe you could do a video on your tattoos. i would love to hear some stories about them. love your videos btw 😍
I recommend that you try crispy mushrooms with a homemade romanescu sauce. At least that's what we call it in Spain, it's wicked 🌶🔥🌱
Great presentation thank you
I’m really impressed on your changed thoughts and efforts to use no oil sometimes. Yes oil is the highest calorie dense food. If I use oil I now use a healthier avocado oil which works really well for cooking because of it’s neutral flavor and high heat tolerance. Thank you for addressing this issue !!
I agree. I use almost no oil, but when I do I use the spray type avocado. So I'm using next to no oil, but still get the non-stick quality when I don't want to use broth or water (potatoes, mushrooms).
Avacado oil is still empty calories. Just saying
@@Tom-sx4tw Yes, I know all oil is processed, empty calories. But for me, sometimes I'm willing to make the trade off, which is why I use a barely measurable amount of spray avocado oil when I want some crisp and sear, which is just not always achievable with water or broth. Thanks for the heads up.
Liked the video before it even started hehe. Love love love your channel!!
Great video and amazing message at the end 🌱
Thanks Tom!
I love that you were able to do this without oil. That's a game changer for me!!
Wicked! Thanks for watching.
Thank you for the video. Please do more oil free recipes, would really appreciate it.
Already tried it with oil and it was fantastic. I will definitely try it without, thank you for the great video and for sharing your knowledge.
I'm going right out today and buying ingredients and making the oil free version. Looks absolutely delicious!!!Thank you!!!
Derek, thanks for the comparison. I have been addicted to oyster mushrooms because of you. I eat mushrooms every day. However a couple times a week I have to make a pressed oyster mushroom with sauce of the day. I guess this is a good addiction. It is the mouth feel that is so satisfying, not to mention the amazing flavor. Thank you! My great Aunt lives in Tucson not far from the Ethiopian restaurant on Broadway. She is up off Countryclub. And of course my beloved Naom Chomsky lives in Tucson now. I have been listening to the stats on COVID-19. I wish you safety and health. Give my love to the beautiful night blooming cereus that grace gardens at this time of year, the feisty male hummingbirds and the cool of the desert night in August.
I'd say we're close to addicted to them as well. Glad you love them as much! We're no longer in AZ but enjoyed the time indoors while I was there.
I love your videos and cooking. Thank you so much for showing us how amazing mushrooms are!! :) :) Please continue. Much love
That's so nice of you to say! Thank you for sharing and we love you too!!
I want to cook one of those. You are a Wizzard and thank you!!!!!
Love it, but I need my crispy bits! Cast iron pans all the way!. Thanks again 😃
Thank you, looks amazing. No oil for me recipe. Going to give it a try when I find these mushrooms.
I appreciate all of your efforts, creativity, and expertise! You make a difference! Thank you!
thanks for doing this vs video. I use low to no oil and have lots of cast iron and love love love mushrooms... Gonna give this a go !
You are so welcome! We are listening to all of you out there and will continue to do more No Oil Challenges like this one!!
Thank you for the time and effort you have allocated to this culinary experiment. It was extremely insightful. I do not use oil. When engaging myself within the kitchen. And so, the no oil option, would be my preferred choice.
Our pleasure! It works very well. Thanks for letting us know.
Had to go fat/oil free due to a recently diagnosed heart condition which made me embrace plant-based whole food fat free cooking. I mistakenly assumed my cast iron pan wasn't oil free friendly. After just seeing this I'm going to go get 2 matching pans after trying the press method for a mushroom taco recipe from Gaz (in which he attributes the process to you). I know recently you've experienced criticism. I appreciate the misplaced passion but fuck the divisiveness. Thank you Derek, what you and Gaz and others are doing is elevating on so many levels. You are appreciated beyond what you can even imagine. And you continue to give years beyond with videos like these.
Thanks for this! Go no oil team!
thank you, very good videos...food can be delicious without oils, the flavours usually come from the spices used...
Going to make the rounds tonight to try to find these mushrooms - my regular grocery doesn’t carry these but I have several other choices so I’m on the hunt! Thanks for doing the comparison - I learned a lot ! 🍄
You bet, glad you enjoyed the “VS”! Forage away!
😋😋😋 can't wait to try. Moving soon, hopefully will find a place with room enough to do a little indoor herb n shroom cultivating...window gardening, if I can't have a bit o outdoor container gardening,will do! 😉🥺😋💞
Awesome!
Thank you Derek for doing the comparison. I cannot find the mushroom steaks where I live (southern Spain). I tend to use oyster mushrooms and pile them on top of each other to try and make the steak. So far it’s been a rare treat because of the oil, I will definitely try the no oil one. How did I know you were going to get them mixed up once they were plated?
Great comparison. If we could stop using oil as a damn food group and start using it sparingly as a functional ingredient (like seasoning a pan or barely coating it to assist a sear) we could practically eliminate a lot of the health issues associated with the use of extracted oils. That being said any time we really don't need to use oil at all I am there. And frankly that is a good deal of the time!
Have you tried air-frying the no oil version? That should get you more crispiness.
We haven't tried that yet but definitely want to!
Thank you for this video Mr. Man, its good to see you cooking!!! Great comparison between the two and awesome results. It sure gives confidence not to use oil as a choice! When appropriate (or more often than not), I like to use organic virgin unrefined coconut oil, it isn't liquid until it melts. Its a nice "fatty" flavor. Mix it with a LITTLE Bragg's Amino Acids with it to get a butter flavor, its amazing!!!
Thanks for watching! Coconut oil is still not a healthier choice, we will never say it is.. Especially if it solidifies when it's room temp. we think of oils as more of a tool than an ingredient. Seems to work for us. Cheers!
Just discovered your channel, you're the bomb! Thanks for the great video!
Welcome and thanks!
Fantastic comparison. Just made the oil version. Look forward to trying this method. Thanks for doing this!
Thanks so much for this! I tried my own oil free version of your previous mushroom steak, but now I know what I did wrong.
Ghee you did made huge personal development in time. Watching this video and the latest one.
Awesome. It's not just the calories though, in why not to use oil. It's bc it's bad for the heart. Dr. Greger and some if the other WFPB MDs have info about it. I was vegan 20 years before I learned about it, lol. I used to use oil on everything, but not any more.
Trying this on my black stone griddle while camping!!! Thank you for sharing!
I’m plant based no oil.. that was great to show us both thank you!!!
Looks amazing
Phantastic...I love your videos and ideas! Thank you so much for sharing 💚☀️🌱🙏
I really enjoy watching your videos. You do a great job. Also I enjoy watching you cut up different things. You have great skills......
It looks so delicious. You're very good at cooking. That's a good recipe. 🥰😋💛🧡
That was wonderful. It’s amazing what you can do with mushrooms these days. Do you have a link to your books. We own the wicked heathy. But would like to look at the other one.
Amazing stuff as usual, glad to see I can make these for a non cheat day also 😁, definitely gona try these both once I get my cast iron pans ✌️
Yes!! Give me both. Looks wonderful 🍄🍄🍄
Can we sundry first the mushrooms before cooking it?
I choose to stick to a wfpb diet because I know it's healthier. So, no oil for me. Even though, trying to gain weight, oil and other processed foods would kind of help me, maybe... =)) Thank you for this great video. ;-)
Thank you for this oil free mushroom recipe ... it looks delicious 😋 can't wait to try it. Thanks again 😊
I can’t wait to try this! I love mushrooms! The portobellos in my fridge have a destiny
Every time I watch your videos I get so hungry, I’m Vegan and your recipes are by far the BEST thank you 🙏
Love it! Thank you 🙏🏻
Question and a special request.
Can I bulk cook these mushroom steaks and freeze them? Plus I would love to see a cast-iron care video since you are the master. I have cast-iron but I'm unsure if I've seasoned them correctly and unsure how to properly clean them. Would love your take on the matter. I've tried several of your recipes and all have been delicious. Thanks for what you do.
I honestly can't explain why but Derek is just the kind of guy you want to invite over, talk about food, drink beer and then kick his ass at PlayStation 😂
😂 Check, check, check, check!
You should do a whole video of just sides!
Thankyou, learned a lot....they both look scrumptious! yumyumyum
Thanks for showing the detail on this. My mouth is watering! I am having a hard time finding these mushrooms...any suggestions? Also love that you share my use of the F bombs ;)
These are sold in Tesco in the U.K. Try googling growers near you or that ship, farmers markets or Asian markets. It's how we found these when locked down in Arizona.
Great video!😊
WOW look so yummy and delicious
Thank you! This is so awesome!
I wonder if also heating the pan you use to press the mushrooms would help at all. Cook them from both sides at once. Probably save some time.
I wonder if heating the other pan might be a little dangerous because you have to press a very hot surface? You might need the “Ove Glove” or some other thermal protection.
@@ajob1652 It already gets dangerously hot the way he does it. That's why he presses it with a kitchen towel.
Been doing this for a long time and I don't bother with the top pan, it's not needed especially for unseasoned cooks but do let me know how you get on if you try it.
I LOVE these more technical recipes! Honestly, what a fantastic comparison!
I've recently bought my first ever (would you believe?!) bottle of BBQ sauce and was planning to use it on tofu, to grill it later on on the barbeque...but I might change my plans :D Also, aren't they to delicate for BBQ? I don't know if I want to risk- they seem incredibly flavourful and tasty anyways!
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Sending the whole team lots of love!
Stay safe and have a great day or night!
Thanks for your support Margaret!
I’m a plant base eater. You have a new follower, Thanks for the recipe!!
Derek: We're preheating the oven to 420.
Me: Nice.
Definitely going to try this, with a bunch of different meaty fungi!
Amazing!
Great recipe.💚
Im sooo possessive about my cast irons😎😊💚✌️👍
Take care of the pans that take care of you!
@@DerekSarnoChef
Bestest reply ever.
I do take care of them . Just like u did.
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Both looks sooooo yum!!! :D
Have you already done a video about your cast iron pans? Or can you recommend a brand you prefer?
Love this. Thank you! 🖤🖤🖤
You're more worried about a little bit of oil but not all the processed sugars in that BBQ sauce?
I just scored some wicked wild channtrells and portabello looking things I was assured are safe lol and restored my cast iron and hav some of my Korean bbq sauce left so I can't wait for this thanks.would live to try the no oil but I hav some budder that's on the way out and can't wast that pricy shit lol.
Derek is it possible you can do a plant-based oxtails rice and peas?
My reason for no oil is that it is inflammatory. Thank you for this recipe re-do.
Another quick question for you: can lions mane be used the same way as these cluster mushrooms? I've surprisingly found lions mane to be more readily available at the grocery stores than the cluster mushrooms.
I think it's fair game to try this technique with just about any mushroom you can find! Of course the outcome will differ slightly in taste and overall textures, but the cooking process should change much at all. Let us know how it turns out!
in theory, a better method would be to pressure cook your mushrooms for a minute or two, to soften the walls which will help release the water faster when pressed
Then use a small amount of oil to help release the water faster, when pressed, then just hot air(no oil) as it can get hot while touching more of the inner surface of the mushroom walls, which means more flavor!
🥰🥰🥰🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦 “that shit’ll kill ya” - sure will. I started having chest discomfort 3.5 years ago. I stopped animal products (WFPB) and 3 months later my discomfort stopped. My younger sister didn’t believe she was at risk and one month ago had quadruple bypass. I feel I found out about this lifestyle JUST IN TIME! I love lions mane steaks! Love your videos. In Canada so no Wicked here. Damn.
Yum! I wonder if after pan frying the non oil one if you air fry for a min or two to get the edges crisp? Just a thought.
Do you recommend a particular cast iron pan? Or any kind would do?
These are Lodge but we like them all
Would you not want to put them back in the pan after submerging in the BBQ sauce, just for a few seconds, to caramelize bits of the sauce?
What is the cookbook you refer to?