This is a review of my three piece Bundeswehr canteen cup. a good friend of mine just informed me the Bundeswehr is the main german army and that i pronounce it wrong. sorry.
The lower part is not meant to cook in, as it has a white rubber liner on top which cannot stand the heat of a fire. This lower part is merely a protective cover & thermal shield. It can be used to eat out of, of course. The upper part can be used to cook and/or boil water in. However, the German Army mess kit is something completely different: Larger, no canteen/bottle, three pieces to eat out of. ATB, Gereon
I prefer a canteen with a larger opening because you can get something inside to clean it properly as does the BCB Crusader cook set. If our US canteens had the larger mouth they would be great.
Using it this way could be dangerous. Because actually, that system is not meant to be a mess kit. The lower part is just an isolator for the canteen. When I was in the Bundeswehr what we took with us into the field was only the canteen (in an extra bag), without the other stuff, and we had another 3 part "main" mess kit. (Close to the NVA one and probably also close to the Finnish kit) So I don't know if there is some isolating material in the lower part that could be destroyed or release anything toxic or whatnot if you heat it too much but I'm just saying it could be.
I have the same kit. I love it! I removed the part of strap that screws in. I put mine in a pack pocket, so no need for the strap to be screwed to kit. I also removed the rubber 'seal' in lid (as you cant safely sterilize it) and plan to replace it with an O ring soon. When I boiled mine out, the leather strap that held lid to canteen fell apart, but I plan to replace it in the semi-near future with a short length of light chain. I will soon be painting mine with some high temp paint as well.
Bundeswehr is the designation of the Armed Forces of the Federal Republic of Germany. It encompasses all three branches of Army (Heer), Airforce (Luftwaffe) and Navy (Marine).
The large cap and opening is to make it easier to stuff full of snow. Then set next to a heat source and melt the snow for water. With the cap off of course.
Great review, tks. I have a near-identical example. My set is marked PSL 62 with a PSL 60 flask which would make it an early example. There are 4 main variations between the 2: The first concerns the strap, which has an entirely different catch, and only one button-hole on the leather part. The strap is also held in place by a rivet, and hence unremovable. Another difference concerns the stud on your example, which is affixed to the bottom segment. Mine is on the strap itself. The top segment also has a slip-through bridge for the strap to run through, rather than just a guide as in your set. As for the external finish, the hook and catch in my example are unpainted, and the body paint has a rough texture. The base has a plastic stud through the centre, making the bottom segment unsuitable for use over a naked flame. (Also due to the said piece having a rubber lining along the top - inner side). The top segment, which like most of the other components is made from Aluminium may be used on both a burner or an open fire, but care needs to be taken to keep the handle away from the flames, and caution is required since the whole thing becomes very hot even just by conduction! As for Bundeswehr, it is an amalgamation of 2 German words, Bundes means Federal and Wehr translates to defence. This is the postwar designation for the German Armed Forces, which up to 1945 were known as the Wehrmacht, (defence force). Both terms refer to the combined services within the German Military.
I have recently purchased one of these for 20 nzd, in used but immaculate condition. the straps can be modified to accommodate a wire handle system for use a bail on a billy set up. Mine came with a psl 82 allie canteen and the cup and main " bowl " are are psl 84. These were issued to the NVA or East German troops, my specimen coming from the later period with the dome in the bottom, as soldiers would complain when compacted in form, that the allie canteen would rattle too much, is a nice bit of kit for lightweight bushcraft.
I just bought one of these for under $7 online, and an really looking forward to checking it out and making something in it! I *may* get a holder for the canteen and use the empty space inside of the kit for a stove, fuel and other cooking gear~
I have a set as well, picked it up for $10. It is a bit noisy as already stated, I wouldn't have been too keen on carrying one while I was ground pounding. They would be good if you were being supplied food, food in one, coffee in the other, but if you used it to cook with,you would be getting soot and crap all over you. Hard enough to stay clean when you are in the bush anyway.
I have one of these and I think it is older circa early 60s. Bundeswehr was the West German Army and is the name of the current German army too. The older strap system seems better in some ways because it is detachable and it uses a tension buckle very similar to the buckles on the old ALICE packs. My canteen bottle looks like someone used it for slingshot target practice but still works great and does not leak. It is very thick and durable. My only complaint with mine beyond the cosmetics is the seal inside the lid is like pink pencil eraser rubber and can dry out and start to crack. Mine was dry and rock hard when I got it and it split down the middle. But after keeping water in it awhile it rehydrated and works fine but it did give the water a bit of a rubber eraser flavour for awhile.
@batmanrules1014 hi, i got one of these today, its 60 years old and has been issued in a combat zone, what i wanted to say is that you don't need to take the strap of, there is a way to cook with it on, i am not sure how, but i can tell you can because the leather strap on mine has been slightly heat damaged and has a bit of soot on the underside, but is other wise fine, hope this helped
The Bundeswehr Mess Kit is usually to be used with an Esbit stove. The stove is considered a personal item of every soldier and is therefore already issued to him, which is why the Mess Kit and the stove can usually only be bought seperately... well..hope my mumbling makes sense...o.o sorry for the bad english.
Awesome kit bro. I found one at a local antique dealer this week. I thought it looked german by the straps but wasn't positive. I been on the web all morning trying to find one and your video is the first I've found. It's the same kit but the leather strap on the one I got is dryrotted some. I think I can make a new one. Great video and thanks for sharing.
I find it interesting how each countries infantry mess kit design is influenced by their culture and diet.My british army canteen had the cup on top of the water bottle I guess to be ready for a quick cup of tea.The US Army kit I now use fly fishing has the coupon the bottom the water bottler in the cup.
swedish messkits dont only come with a alcohol burner to use as a complete stove, but both pots are also designed for cooking straight over open fire, the small pot with D-ring loops to put a long stick in to hold it over the fire and the big pot with a hook that enables you to hang it on a tripod above the fire, great solution for when you run out of alcohol, or if you want to save it for later use. Also, you got 2 pots in that kit.. so why would you want to boil the bottle in it?
Today i got this in my local surplus store. Its amazing, for the screw im just using my mora to unscrew it. I did not expect that it has canteen, when i opened it up i saw it and i was like Hell yeah, im buying this. Ive spent 7eu on that
The Bundeswehr (Federal defense) is the official German armed force with all branches of the military included. And this canteen also exists with a plastic cover with a thing for you nbc mask
This is a great kit that I keep in my hunting back pack and also use on solo trips in the woods. I use a Trangia 25 -8 series cook set, if I am out with another person. I need to freshen my canteen kit up with some paint though. When I bought it off of Ebay it was in rough shape. any tips on painting it like you did with yours?
ebays the best place to look for messkits, if you don't have an army surplus store nearby. In this case:"Bundeswehr Feldgeschirr" would be the right keywords.
Well done review and demo! A concern I would have is the need to take off the top pot to access the canteen for a drink, and having to have a screwdriver to remove the strap when cooking. Otherwise, a great kit!
Very interesting! However, Bundeswehr means armed forces, the adj. would be, Deutsche Bundeswehr, the German Armed Forces (Army = Heer, Navy= Bundesmarine, Air Force = Luftwaffe). Now here is something you may find interesting: Die amerikanische Luftwaffe; ein italianisches U-Boot. Incorrect on my spelling here. I give credit to those who collect military items, camping items, etc., and present them to the public, being very informative. Thanks!
thought it was too bulky until you pulled out the canteen ..a space saver combining the 2!...what does it weigh? how much is it ? where is it sold at? good vid thxs!
i really agree with your point of view in my opinion it is far superior to the normal canteen set and even though u have to take the top off to drink i would compare that to trying to pry a canteen and cup from the bottom of a lesser made american canteen pouch
Major Mingus: is there a Wehrmacht (army) anymore. I know that the Luftwaffe and Kriegsmarine still exist. Was the army's name changed from Wehrmacht to Bundeswehr?
No. In modern Germany there is only one Bundeswehr (Federal Armed Forces) with Heer (Army), Luftwaffe (Airforce), Marine (Navy), Sanität (Medical Services), Streitkräftebasis (a combination of all other Theatre Suppport units), Cyber & IT. All in all less than 180.000 troops. ATB, Gereon (a German Army Sergeant)
I have the same canteen. I founded it in a charity shop.i was also unable to find information on this item just that it was German. so this is just my presumption that this is just a canteen not a mess kit so boiling water not food. I suspect that the bottom half of the canteen is insulated. I don't know if this is to keep water in the flask hot if it's been boiled at some point. Or maybe just to stop the water freezing or just keep it at a reasonable temperature
+William Bragg Its defanately just the canteen, although it can be used as another pot if you need it to. I believe the only reason for it being a full shell is to protect the metal canteen as they easily develop pinhole leaks. This is why they aren't used in most armys anymore
I have an older one and the canteen bottle is crazy thick and tough. Mine looks like someone used it for slingshot target practice and has several dents and it does not leak. I am also curious how you would spring a leak in a steel bottle that would not completely destroy a plastic one. But having a cover for it is useful. It reminds me a bit of a mini version of the VDV canteen/mess kit combo.
Red River Scout Most metal canteens of old weren't made of thick stuff which si why they would spring leaks easily. Your thick bottle is an exception rather than the rule. Plastic is used more these days because its lighter, and cheaper to produce.
Good to know. I only have experience with the West German, old Canadian, and soviet VDV canteens which are all very well made. Although the Canadian one is interesting in the sense that it is actually two pieces of metal welded together. I have been lucky with all of them except for a stupid user error with my VDV canteen. Leaving water in it in subzero temps nested in the pot caused the canteen to bulge and caused both pieces to bind up. Funny thing is just for kicks I filled it with water later and it still does not leak but it has a pot stuck around it now. Makes it look like a chinese one with a bail handle. :)
Not really true. Canteens of old held up just fine, and any leaks were usually around the caps. I've never seen an old metal canteen spring a leak because of thinness. Now and then a soldered seam will loosen up, but this happens to all soldered seams sooner or later, including modern ones. It's a two minute fix. Or a two minute prevention.
just heads up the W in Bundeswehr is pronounced like an F yet they say BMV for BMW. Funny i know. Also Bundeswehr is just military and there is different branches. Good vid man
important / if you do not use the bottle take the rubber seal (pink disk) out of the cap! which is prescribed in the German army ;) and where is the rest of the „Mess Kit“ Esbit cooker and pigpot and flatware???
i have seen german soldiers on video or pictures with their canteen without the top part . i think they might be leaving it to not botter them too much .
Do you find that having to mess with the screw/bracket to remove the belt makes it risky to render the kit useless if you lose it? I have been using the USGI canteen/cup kit and like not having to worry about small pieces to lose. Just wanted your thoughts on that. Thanks for sharing.
I haven't got one of these but after watching this. could you use the tang on the cup as screwdriver to remove the screw on the pot. it looks like you could use it.
Where can I get one of these in the United States?? I just went to raeer.com and its a German site. Anything in English? These are fantastic kits! I want one!!
Is German army issued to Day. I got to on my Belt. I my service time i did not like it. Because is near by my Buttpack behind me. Need all way 's a "Kamerad " wen i like to trink form my Field Cup. But es never use it for cooking Water. For this we got our mess Kit! Greetings from Germany 🍺
Может для бундесвера это и было нужной вещью...а вот для туризма бесполезная!Только фляжка хорошая...но фляжки все попадаются мятые на дне...Может роняли на бетон много раз,а может орехи кололи...Имею такое...поэтому ничего не придумал...😢😮
Bund - es - vehr, not boo des wear. Learn to pronounce the name of the German Army fercrissakes! Ruined what might otherwise have been a great video but I couldn't stomach listening to you drone on.
The lower part is not meant to cook in, as it has a white rubber liner on top which cannot stand the heat of a fire. This lower part is merely a protective cover & thermal shield. It can be used to eat out of, of course. The upper part can be used to cook and/or boil water in. However, the German Army mess kit is something completely different: Larger, no canteen/bottle, three pieces to eat out of. ATB, Gereon
I prefer a canteen with a larger opening because you can get something inside to clean it properly as does the BCB Crusader cook set.
If our US canteens had the larger mouth they would be great.
Bundeswehr (sp?) Boon-des-veer - is German for ARMY. LOL
Bundes-Federal
Wehr-Force
Armee or Heer is Army
Using it this way could be dangerous. Because actually, that system is not meant to be a mess kit. The lower part is just an isolator for the canteen. When I was in the Bundeswehr what we took with us into the field was only the canteen (in an extra bag), without the other stuff, and we had another 3 part "main" mess kit. (Close to the NVA one and probably also close to the Finnish kit)
So I don't know if there is some isolating material in the lower part that could be destroyed or release anything toxic or whatnot if you heat it too much but I'm just saying it could be.
It's perfectly safe to heat. You must have been in the Bundeswehr much later on.
I have the same kit. I love it!
I removed the part of strap that screws in. I put mine in a pack pocket, so no need for the strap to be screwed to kit. I also removed the rubber 'seal' in lid (as you cant safely sterilize it) and plan to replace it with an O ring soon.
When I boiled mine out, the leather strap that held lid to canteen fell apart, but I plan to replace it in the semi-near future with a short length of light chain.
I will soon be painting mine with some high temp paint as well.
Bundeswehr is the designation of the Armed Forces of the Federal Republic of Germany.
It encompasses all three branches of Army (Heer), Airforce (Luftwaffe) and Navy (Marine).
The large cap and opening is to make it easier to stuff full of snow. Then set next to a heat source and melt the snow for water. With the cap off of course.
that big pot is not for cooking in, it has a rubber piece around it on top that would burn and poison your food.
Great review, tks. I have a near-identical example. My set is marked PSL 62 with a PSL 60 flask which would make it an early example. There are 4 main variations between the 2:
The first concerns the strap, which has an entirely different catch, and only one button-hole on the leather part. The strap is also held in place by a rivet, and hence unremovable.
Another difference concerns the stud on your example, which is affixed to the bottom segment. Mine is on the strap itself. The top segment also has a slip-through bridge for the strap to run through, rather than just a guide as in your set.
As for the external finish, the hook and catch in my example are unpainted, and the body paint has a rough texture.
The base has a plastic stud through the centre, making the bottom segment unsuitable for use over a naked flame.
(Also due to the said piece having a rubber lining along the top - inner side).
The top segment, which like most of the other components is made from Aluminium may be used on both a burner or an open fire, but care needs to be taken to keep the handle away from the flames, and caution is required since the whole thing becomes very hot even just by conduction!
As for Bundeswehr, it is an amalgamation of 2 German words, Bundes means Federal and Wehr translates to defence. This is the postwar designation for the German Armed Forces, which up to 1945 were known as the Wehrmacht, (defence force). Both terms refer to the combined services within the German Military.
У алюминия отличная теплопроводность!😂🎉
Да, я часто обжигаю пальцы
I have recently purchased one of these for 20 nzd, in used but immaculate condition. the straps can be modified to accommodate a wire handle system for use a bail on a billy set up. Mine came with a psl 82 allie canteen and the cup and main " bowl " are are psl 84. These were issued to the NVA or East German troops, my specimen coming from the later period with the dome in the bottom, as soldiers would complain when compacted in form, that the allie canteen would rattle too much, is a nice bit of kit for lightweight bushcraft.
@batmanrules1014 Maybe grab a canteen cover from a surplus store and carry the canteen in that, while storing your fire kit and supplies in the pots~
I just bought one of these for under $7 online, and an really looking forward to checking it out and making something in it! I *may* get a holder for the canteen and use the empty space inside of the kit for a stove, fuel and other cooking gear~
I have a set as well, picked it up for $10. It is a bit noisy as already stated, I wouldn't have been too keen on carrying one while I was ground pounding. They would be good if you were being supplied food, food in one, coffee in the other, but if you used it to cook with,you would be getting soot and crap all over you. Hard enough to stay clean when you are in the bush anyway.
I have one of these and I think it is older circa early 60s. Bundeswehr was the West German Army and is the name of the current German army too. The older strap system seems better in some ways because it is detachable and it uses a tension buckle very similar to the buckles on the old ALICE packs. My canteen bottle looks like someone used it for slingshot target practice but still works great and does not leak. It is very thick and durable. My only complaint with mine beyond the cosmetics is the seal inside the lid is like pink pencil eraser rubber and can dry out and start to crack. Mine was dry and rock hard when I got it and it split down the middle. But after keeping water in it awhile it rehydrated and works fine but it did give the water a bit of a rubber eraser flavour for awhile.
@batmanrules1014 hi, i got one of these today, its 60 years old and has been issued in a combat zone, what i wanted to say is that you don't need to take the strap of, there is a way to cook with it on, i am not sure how, but i can tell you can because the leather strap on mine has been slightly heat damaged and has a bit of soot on the underside, but is other wise fine, hope this helped
One of the best kits you can get.
It also holds booze very well, something plastic will not do.
booze does very well in plastic !
Plastic holds booze just fine.
The Bundeswehr Mess Kit is usually to be used with an Esbit stove. The stove is considered a personal item of every soldier and is therefore already issued to him, which is why the Mess Kit and the stove can usually only be bought seperately...
well..hope my mumbling makes sense...o.o
sorry for the bad english.
Awesome kit bro. I found one at a local antique dealer this week. I thought it looked german by the straps but wasn't positive. I been on the web all morning trying to find one and your video is the first I've found. It's the same kit but the leather strap on the one I got is dryrotted some. I think I can make a new one. Great video and thanks for sharing.
I find it interesting how each countries infantry mess kit design is influenced by their culture and diet.My british army canteen had the cup on top of the water bottle I guess to be ready for a quick cup of tea.The US Army kit I now use fly fishing has the coupon the bottom the water bottler in the cup.
The one with the handle is the one to use to cook on fire.
The rubberlid has a little cut. Take a blunt tool and lift it out. This cut is exactly for this....to clean the rubber and the lid!
swedish messkits dont only come with a alcohol burner to use as a complete stove, but both pots are also designed for cooking straight over open fire, the small pot with D-ring loops to put a long stick in to hold it over the fire and the big pot with a hook that enables you to hang it on a tripod above the fire, great solution for when you run out of alcohol, or if you want to save it for later use.
Also, you got 2 pots in that kit.. so why would you want to boil the bottle in it?
Today i got this in my local surplus store. Its amazing, for the screw im just using my mora to unscrew it. I did not expect that it has canteen, when i opened it up i saw it and i was like Hell yeah, im buying this. Ive spent 7eu on that
The Bundeswehr (Federal defense) is the official German armed force with all branches of the military included.
And this canteen also exists with a plastic cover with a thing for you nbc mask
Looks like a solid kit.
This is a great kit that I keep in my hunting back pack and also use on solo trips in the woods. I use a Trangia 25 -8 series cook set, if I am out with another person. I need to freshen my canteen kit up with some paint though. When I bought it off of Ebay it was in rough shape. any tips on painting it like you did with yours?
ebays the best place to look for messkits, if you don't have an army surplus store nearby. In this case:"Bundeswehr Feldgeschirr" would be the right keywords.
thanks very much for making this video! been looking to buy this for a while :) cheers :)
Well done review and demo! A concern I would have is the need to take off the top pot to access the canteen for a drink, and having to have a screwdriver to remove the strap when cooking. Otherwise, a great kit!
you need to remove the rubber seal on the larger cup too if your ganna cook with it . wish it came in stainless .
Very interesting! However, Bundeswehr means armed forces, the adj. would be, Deutsche Bundeswehr, the German Armed Forces (Army = Heer, Navy= Bundesmarine, Air Force = Luftwaffe). Now here is something you may find interesting: Die amerikanische Luftwaffe; ein italianisches U-Boot. Incorrect on my spelling here. I give credit to those who collect military items, camping items, etc., and present them to the public, being very informative. Thanks!
thought it was too bulky until you pulled out the canteen ..a space saver combining the 2!...what does it weigh? how much is it ? where is it sold at?
good vid thxs!
i really agree with your point of view in my opinion it is far superior to the normal canteen set and even though u have to take the top off to drink i would compare that to trying to pry a canteen and cup from the bottom of a lesser made american canteen pouch
also own one...have had it a few years, and also also am impressed with it...good review
We own exactly the same thing, only difference is our canteen is bare no paint or texture on it. Stamped with PSL 69
The Bundeswehr is Germanys current Military and they have 500,000 troops
Major Mingus: and per the terms of surrender, a self defense force only.....
Major Mingus: is there a Wehrmacht (army) anymore. I know that the Luftwaffe and Kriegsmarine still exist. Was the army's name changed from Wehrmacht to Bundeswehr?
Jeff swiney german ground forces are called "Heer". At Bundeswehr and Wehrmacht as well.
No. In modern Germany there is only one Bundeswehr (Federal Armed Forces) with Heer (Army), Luftwaffe (Airforce), Marine (Navy), Sanität (Medical Services), Streitkräftebasis (a combination of all other Theatre Suppport units), Cyber & IT. All in all less than 180.000 troops. ATB, Gereon (a German Army Sergeant)
I have the same canteen. I founded it in a charity shop.i was also unable to find information on this item just that it was German. so this is just my presumption that this is just a canteen not a mess kit so boiling water not food. I suspect that the bottom half of the canteen is insulated. I don't know if this is to keep water in the flask hot if it's been boiled at some point. Or maybe just to stop the water freezing or just keep it at a reasonable temperature
+William Bragg Its defanately just the canteen, although it can be used as another pot if you need it to. I believe the only reason for it being a full shell is to protect the metal canteen as they easily develop pinhole leaks. This is why they aren't used in most armys anymore
I have an older one and the canteen bottle is crazy thick and tough. Mine looks like someone used it for slingshot target practice and has several dents and it does not leak. I am also curious how you would spring a leak in a steel bottle that would not completely destroy a plastic one. But having a cover for it is useful. It reminds me a bit of a mini version of the VDV canteen/mess kit combo.
Red River Scout Most metal canteens of old weren't made of thick stuff which si why they would spring leaks easily. Your thick bottle is an exception rather than the rule. Plastic is used more these days because its lighter, and cheaper to produce.
Good to know. I only have experience with the West German, old Canadian, and soviet VDV canteens which are all very well made. Although the Canadian one is interesting in the sense that it is actually two pieces of metal welded together. I have been lucky with all of them except for a stupid user error with my VDV canteen. Leaving water in it in subzero temps nested in the pot caused the canteen to bulge and caused both pieces to bind up. Funny thing is just for kicks I filled it with water later and it still does not leak but it has a pot stuck around it now. Makes it look like a chinese one with a bail handle. :)
Not really true. Canteens of old held up just fine, and any leaks were usually around the caps. I've never seen an old metal canteen spring a leak because of thinness. Now and then a soldered seam will loosen up, but this happens to all soldered seams sooner or later, including modern ones. It's a two minute fix. Or a two minute prevention.
Thats a real nice piece of kit that mate. thanks for showing us it.
THE ONE WITH THE STRAP ON IS FOR EATING OUT OF
just heads up the W in Bundeswehr is pronounced like an F yet they say BMV for BMW. Funny i know. Also Bundeswehr is just military and there is different branches. Good vid man
important / if you do not use the bottle take the rubber seal (pink disk) out of the cap! which is prescribed in the German army ;) and where is the rest of the „Mess Kit“ Esbit cooker and pigpot and flatware???
Wolverine why you need to take the pink disk out
To prevent moulds to grow underneath. It is just a precautonary hygienic measure. The rubber disk is easy to remove with a blunt knife. ATB, Gereon
Got mine at a flea market i didn't know where it came from
where did you buy this/ sportsmansguide?
instead of the screw part there should be a hook type closure.... would make more sense imo
Agreed nice kit indeed.
Where did you find that bundeswher canteen kit? I live in Eastern Germany and can't even find them here
i have seen german soldiers on video or pictures with their canteen without the top part . i think they might be leaving it to not botter them too much .
i used to have one as a kid. i just thought it was the neatest thing
Do you find that having to mess with the screw/bracket to remove the belt makes it risky to render the kit useless if you lose it? I have been using the USGI canteen/cup kit and like not having to worry about small pieces to lose. Just wanted your thoughts on that. Thanks for sharing.
on ebay it's listed as west german.
I just bought one of these kits for $5 except its got a smaller cup inside and not a canteen?? Anyone know what thats all about? Plan to resell it.
I haven't got one of these but after watching this. could you use the tang on the cup as screwdriver to remove the screw on the pot. it looks like you could use it.
for those who have this ... do you know if they will fit the side pocket of a Alice pack?
How many litres is the water bottle?
I got two of them nice, Cheaper then Dirt, Dont know if they still carry them or else E- Bay.
Due you still have this item, would like to own it if you want to sell it
My mums friend was in the military in croatia and he used the same canteen his one made a lot of noise when he walked
you know the germans allways make good stuff
Where did you purchase it?
If anyone knows, I would be interested to know what type of metal this is constructed with? Thanks
Aluminium
Where can I get one of these in the United States?? I just went to raeer.com and its a German site. Anything in English? These are fantastic kits! I want one!!
You don't really want to boil water in an aluminium canteen.
Why not?
@1969jmac i bought one from ebay germany for 5 euro + free shipping
while i live in holland
Is German army issued to Day.
I got to on my Belt.
I my service time i did not like it.
Because is near by my Buttpack behind me.
Need all way 's a "Kamerad " wen i like to trink form my Field Cup.
But es never use it for cooking Water.
For this we got our mess Kit!
Greetings from Germany 🍺
@1969jmac i also live in germany and they are pretty normal here, go to the online shop raeer.com, you can probably find them there
i just picked one up to my canteen is ww2
Army navy deals dot com sells them. I bought one and love it.
I bought one of these, and two for my friends. I got them from raeer.com it's a great site for Bundeswehr surplus gear.
bundeswher means army
Может для бундесвера это и было нужной вещью...а вот для туризма бесполезная!Только фляжка хорошая...но фляжки все попадаются мятые на дне...Может роняли на бетон много раз,а может орехи кололи...Имею такое...поэтому ничего не придумал...😢😮
hey nice video there is a good bushcraft made one that it rather nice and strapped good to go to petey20201 to see it
ASMC ? ...omg-.-
Bund - es - vehr, not boo des wear. Learn to pronounce the name of the German Army fercrissakes! Ruined what might otherwise have been a great video but I couldn't stomach listening to you drone on.
bu-ndes-wehr not bun-de,var
please for the love of chin-chin learn to say it right