You really could whisper "Czechoslovak infrastructure" anywhere in the Zanzibar rainforest and the man himself Adam Something would pop up from the bushes xD
Thanks a lot! I would honestly never think youtube would show you this, but it seems like trains be connecting people. Slovak Railways blackmail was the alternative to this video so hindsight it seems like a good result.
@@daliboritze888 you got Adam to comment, now you need Tantacrul to come full circle. Also I never noticed our trains are a hodge podge of designs (probably because I'm not a designer) but I won't be able to unsee it now 🙈
@@daliboritze888 Trains do connect people! Except for delays, lack of cross-country ticketing, train control incompatibilities, lack of international rolling stock permitting, lack of English-speaking train drivers and dispatchers, different voltages, and sometimes different gauges. But hey, Slovakian rail is still better than Hungarian rail; at least you don't have your own IC+ project.
As someone who thought I made an overkill bachelors thesis. I am fucking floored. The history lesson and research are really well done, the design is amazing, the presentation incredible. The fact you even got an interview in. Unbelievable I know its kind of a dead horse by now but: How does this only have ***700*** views. I hope you get the call from the slovak train company, would be really cool to see these going into Austria here :D
Thanks♥️. You know the interview is a somewhat funny thing. I contacted a different designer in Bratislava who I know loves trains, so maybe he could be my consultant. So I detailed the story and whose design (Blonsky's) I want to level up. He accepted but told me to also message Mr. Blonsky, so I did, and he also accepted. These trains man! Also what was your overkill thesis about?
@@daliboritze888 Implementation of a user experience workflow in companies. Generally just been a hassle of combining a lot of approaches and scope creep. Nowhere near as interesting as your topic though xP Also really cool how connected designers are in Slovakia! Glad you were able to get in touch with the original designer, added a lot of depth Congrats again, impressive stuff!
I study paint pigments, and something that might be worth noting is that red/orange/yellow pigments are, in my experience, the ones that fade the fastest, and look the worst when faded. Depends of course on the individual pigment. It might be worthwhile listing an actual specific pigment in the design doc, and looking into the ones used in any paint being used. Not sure what pigments are used in train paint though.
This video manages to sit perfectly in my niche interests of central Europe, trains and product design - great job! I would definitely watch you do critiques/reviews of other liveries!
@@Sol_7 Huh, about right then. We'll see in 8 hours. And the next day 200k, 2 million by Saturday, and it should pass 2 billion on Tuesday, Providence permittin’ and the creek don’t rise.
Black doors and black - you called it boomerang - locomotive front side swoosh are very typical for liveries designed by Railcolordesign. They look really good, and for a short period of time ZSSK had such a livery on locomotive 383 110 as well. One interesting effect about adding black as a contrast is that it makes even very old locomotives look increasingly more modern.
3:45 I can infodump about this, and Czech paint schemes: Electric locomotives and units that run on 3kV DC were painted green, electric locomotives and units that run on 25kV 50Hz AC were painted red and multi-system locomotives (that could run on both systems) were painted blue. The first two were set early and followed well enough, (although prototype locomotives didn't follow this - both the first DC (E499.0) and AC (S479.0) locomotives were actually painted blue). Exceptions are some ES499.0/350 locomotives, which were at first painted grey with a middle white stripe, and then red with a white middle stripe, _and then_ blue/white with the yellow stripe at the front. At least the grey paintjob on the ES499.0 prototype survived until at least the ŽSR scheme repaint, because it had the yellow visibility stripe on the front. For whatever reason, faster locomotives would have the visibility stripe omitted? The 162 and 362 classes, did not have one, _but not all of them_ , 150/151 class had the stripe either downsized to a thin strip above the headlights (if i remember right), identical stripe in a more orange color, or outright removed. Actually ŽSSK had this done better, ČD made their multiple units all painted in a blue-grey-red color without regarding what type of current it uses, which would change throughout the years on the City Elefant train. First and second class cars were also more distinct (that is a weird fad shared with the PKP and maybe beyond French and Portuguese Corails I haven't seen this done anywhere) Diesel locomotives were painted dark red until the 1990s, at which point any design that at least looked like a paint job would've been okayed, same thing applies for the older locomotives of both systems (most notoriously classes 130 and 242). Classes 362 and 363 would also have interesting one-off paintjobs, one I remember was a white-silver-light blue-dark blue and another one that was bluish purple with the regular beige stripe for a 362 class, but much thinner and with the lightning bolt-like shape on the sides, like on 750/3/4 locomotives. Passenger cars were mostly painted white/green, except Eurocity/Intercity cars that came from the 90s onwards, which were white/red, _but not all of them_ , the Beer (obligatory lol) coach had a white/pink/dark blue scheme, and Aee/Bee/Apee/Bpee cars were painted either white/lighter green or white/orange (which may have been an ad for ING at the time). Sleeping cars were white/blue, diner cars I assume stayed light blue (I assume because I've never seen a ČD diner car that was not a WRmz or newer). What is a mess now is brand stickers and locomotive labeling. Every 362 class I see at my train station has either the original red plate label, or a sticker label, or a sticker label but in another font, or a sticker label that looks okay but then the logo at the front is tiny. Najbrt design had multiple revisions for the locomotives, the first one (which is a white front with a dark blue trapezoid like shape on the side in a light blue outline) is nearly gone on electric locomotives, but not diesel. The "Národní dopravce" had to be added under the logo as well, _as well as_ adding České Dráhy behind the logo. That appears to have been done on most passenger cars and sides of locomotives (not fronts). And multiple units are just back to every different unit having a different design as long as the colors stay the same. 460 and 560 were repainted to a mostly white-dark blue paintjobs, _but not all of them_ . Regiopanters have more light blue than dark blue, I assume because it's a low floor unit and the window line is large (but then the front has been kept white with only the front plate above the coupler being light blue - why) but a lot of diesel multiple units have either a dark blue-dominant pattern, or just follow what is set for passenger cars. Those mostly have a white/light blue paint scheme with a dark blue stripe below the windows, except sleeping cars and diner cars, which flip the shades of blue around (so dark blue is around the windows now - for clarity, all color/color schemes I mentioned are from the bottom up). ČD Cargo locomotives are only light blue-dark blue, _but not all of them_ , even today so many of them have the old, beaten up paintjob with a ČD Cargo sticker over the ČD logo (for cost saving reasons, that sticker also includes the white background). Every Vectron has a different paint scheme, either plain white, or something more conforming to Najbrt design (but not entirely). Also, more and more regions/integrated transit systems (PID, IDPK) have their own paint schemes for their networks now. I assume this is out of neccessity because an increasing number of train routes have been taken up by private companies and their trains and having blue, yellow, black/gold and different-blue trains would confuse people more (does my ticket still apply to this one?). I think the PID paint scheme, as bad as the initial concept looked, turned out really well (probably because the designers realized that a paintjob should actually follow the vehicle's geometry even if it is just vertical stripes) The Najbrt design is its own pack of issues. Out of any primary color, or any color at all, why blue? Who came up with the white fronts? Why not go with the dark blue? I get they're two different companies, but why do ČD Cargo and ČD (passenger) have completely different logos yet the same typeface and shades of blue?
I am not editing more text into this, so here's a thing I forgot: _Not all_ passenger cars have the same paintjob. The roof paint can be either grey or dark blue. A color I consider awful because trainsim mods won't get it right (I won't blame modders, it is just a weird color).
@@segarallychampionship702 Hello there! You seem to know loads about the Czech paint schemes so I want to ask - is there a catalog of Czech trains and their colour schemes (something like in the video at 6:01 th-cam.com/video/WDghfP8oXvU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=IPBSe6pfOjdLZuvi&t=361)? I'd love to create a colouring book for my friend from it.
@@eRKo-q5g I can't find anything right now. The Najbrt paint scheme surely has a design document available somewhere, but I don't know if it's online or just for ČD's internal use. Czech Wikipedia has RAL color codes for the colors used, but it doesn't list any sources.
Klobúk dole Dalibor! Ďakujem za skvelé video a naozaj obsažný sumár, vývoj a výsledok. Až sa mi nechce veriť, že by naše vlaky mohli vyzerať tak krásne, cool a konzistentne. Dúfam, že to padne na (na)úrodnú pôdu.
the only thing I would criticise (unfortunately) are the black doors. Yes it is very common and very established to make the doors black to gain high contrast for the visually impaired. unfortunately the black opens up a new problem: it is much more difficult to determine whether the doors are open or closed, especially on sunny days, where the inside of the train appears darker than the outside.
Perhaps the orange contrast strip at the bottom of the doors would giv enough indication as to door status? We have a similar problem in Melbourne, where someone complained that our door "dressing" looked similar to the inter-carriage gap which led to bellows being added to the gap on our newer trains.
@@chriscollingwood6650 I think the German ICE trains have solved this problem pretty well by just using a black outline for the doors, which makes gives them a strong contrast while still helping you see, if they are open or not as the doors themselves are white.
Výborná práca Dalibor. Dizajn vozidiel ZSSK (ZSR) nebol vo svojej podstate nikdy zjednotený a mne osobne to vždy trhalo oči. Veľmi dobre spracovaná problematika dizajn manuálu aj samotného videa. Klobúk dole. Veľmi rád si prečítam tvoju záverečnú prácu.
Banger of a video. This amount of effort should be more than enough of a master thesis! Hope you can use lots of that for future academic endeavours and with your career. Looking forward to see more.
11,500 views. On a video this well made. How is that *it*? Seriously, this is some really impressive work! Puts some of the designers of modern liveries in the UK to shame, and those are liveries on revenue-earning services. It kind of reminds me of late-generation British Rail liveries - Network SouthEast mixed with Intercity Swallow, for example - but that's at most a passing similarity. Consistent, one design language, original, clever use of colour. 10/10, I hope that Slovak Railways either use your design or make their own that actually does the job!
Great video. I got similar problem (incosistency!) with Slovak road signs - they keep adding new layouts, new fonts and you got this feeling of overwhelming graphical chaos.
I think I have seen somewhere, that old designs will be valid for 20 more years. Some of the oldest signs were already removed, like on public road you shouldnt be able to see old communist non reflective signs, however they are still visible inside of factories on their private premises.
Skvělý video! vždy mi na Slovenských vlacích přišlo něco nudnýho a nepěknýho, tenhle design určitě o dost lepší a bylo by super kdyby si toho někdo v ŽSSK všiml
This was amazing, truly. Also helped me better understand the choices ÖBB made on the trains I use regularly, especially the redesigned livery on their old Dostos made those look literally decades more modern.
This is madness... and I'm all here for it. I love your design and I seriously hope that someone from the railway company at least considers using it. I also like that you talked with the previous designer, sounds like a cool dude
I don’t know why the algorithm decided to show me - a random transit nerd in Los Angeles, California - this. But I’m glad it did! Honestly, this is a fantastic design for a very difficult problem, and it’s one you solved incredibly well! The boomerang/eyelash motif, in particular, looks FANTASTIC. While red and orange are definitely not a common color scheme, you make it work very well, in a way that reminds me of many 1970s livery designs in the USA - particularly San Francisco’s “Sunset” design. Also, have to say, the website is incredibly well done - though I’d check your links for “Train Design Abroad,” they seem to be broken? Very, very impressive all around!
I always liked the simplicity of the old blue-white hungarian liveries. It went to its evergreen stage... but then they decided to do the intercity+ stuff. This is why we cant have nice things. But I strongly believe that Adam Something will do a video like that and I cant wait.
@@daliboritze888And they're changing it again, and the best part, they wont apply the new liveries to trains that wont be on the rails for that much longer. Funny thing to say when we have V43s still pulling international trains...
Úžasné video. Skvelé spracovanie od úvodu, vysvetlenie histórie, popis problémov až k riešeniu, ktoré bolo úžasne odprezentované na 3d modeloch. Manuál vyzerá super a môžeme snívať aby ho ZSSK adaptovala. Verím že takáto diplomovka bola úspešne obhájená!
I'm an industrial design student and I particularly love trains. This is SO good - you seem like you'll become a guiding light for the future of the railways.
That's a lot of dedication! It looks great! Especially the mountain graphics on TEŽ! Hope that someone in the Ministerstvo Dopravy will see your work and they hire you one day ;)
Zajímavé a parádně zpracované video. Ten váš návrh na design vypadá fakt dobře, hlavně na té laminátce, kde to vypadá jako kdyby se z ní stal nějakej sporťák xd
Good visualization and in-depth explanation research supported narrative makes me automatically subscribe! Looking forward for your another top notch video👍 Keep up the good work
This video is incredible, as a train fan i loved it and i noticed there is a similar problem in Bosnia, ŽFBH, their railway has a blue and orange logo but from what i know not a single one of their trains actually has those colors
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Velmi pekna praca :) Je vidno, ze ta tema bavi a dal si si zalezat aj na prezentacii. Keep it up!
Ahoj, I must say as a fellow Czech railfan/worker who visit Slovakia for 10 years and have a friends there. Those new paint schemes are great! You made old class 350 to look like 30 years younger 😀.
@@daliboritze888 nechce sa mi pisat anglicky . Musim ta pochvalit si velmi sikovny , video je krasne prepracovane co sa obsahu tyka - mas peknu plynulu anglictinu . Zial bohu cele to len reflektuje vsadepritomny marazmus a absenciu akejkolvek koncepcnosti / koncepcionality /- ktora sa nas uz 10rocia drzi . Uz len ten tvoj pocin akehosi zjednotenia farebnych schem je velmi chvalyhodny - v spolupraci s navrharom . Sice si pamatam ako zeleznicna spolocnost / fanusikovska zakladna / zurila na inifikovany blonsi nater - fuj fuj . Mne osobne sa tiez pacil modrobiely hugo aj 350 v papagajovom nateri . Ale koncept tychto troch farieb by sa lahko mohol menit na inu trojicu farieb ...modra v dvoch odtienoch / biela / siva kazdopadne ta velmi chvalim a prajem ti vela zdaru .
Wow! Really nice work! The design, presentation and the website! I still kinda prefer our ČD Najbrt, but that's mainly because I am Czech and I like blue color more.
Bravo! One potential pitfall I can think of (not covered in the vid, my apologies if it is in the thesis text itself) is - colorblindness and the need to distinct the red and orange.
I just wish this video was longer. Could listen to you for hours. I've never actually thought about trains this way. I just felt like the visual style was kinda all over the place I guess 😄Have to say I absolutely adore your work on this, especially what you did with the doors, since I have problem spotting them quite often. I hope ZSSK will see this someday. Say hi to Ivan for me 👋Keep it up!
hats off to you, sir! that eyelash design really kicks ass. made old locos look like state of the art. btw skoda made some amazing and innovating designs back then.
What a brilliant piece of design philosophy and technique. As others have said, you designed a whole brand, livery and fleet. Fantastic. If you had the .stl files for 3D printing, maybe others could try and print out the real things for you. I can't as I am not a 3D printer, but I know people are very interested in such things. All the best, Dalibor. Cheers!
excellent video. it's fascinating how impactful it is to have a consistent design language despite the fact that we never really consciously realize it when something is poorly designed.
I remember this piece of trivia from my research: Rail passenger use topped out in 1959 and slowly was replaced by buses as a preferred way to commute (Nigrin, 2018). If you want to know why trains suck in SK, then go to the rail station in Banksá Štiavnica or Kremnica. It is good exercise.
Amazing video, the visuals and your opinions really enhanced the story. Great pacing too. I do like a messy train but I get that it doesn't really inspire confidence in the service for passengers. I like our Belgian design because it's so simple and utilitarian yet classy at the same time. It feels nice coming home to a place where the trains aren't screaming for attention with bright colours. Austria probably has the coolest design in Europe. I like what you did with the bright orange line on top of the red, but one single color for the door would fit better I think.
Thanks for explaining that. It turns out my confusion with Slovak railways is justified. We need someone like you to redesign the mess we have here in Poland 😶
Three weeks later, your video popped up on my home page right now! Even though the last time I used ZSSK trains was around 2019-2020, I would love to see your design come to life. Keep it up! Now that the railway design is complete, how about tackling the Trnava MHD vehicles? It's a real mess out here.
finally a vid about slovak trains!! this video is great and your redesigns would be great for ZSSK (even tho i am really partial to the Vectron livery with the two hands holding up the railroad's logo)
I do have a question tho, did you make the models on actual measurements/engineering diagrams, or did you largely do it by eye? If you did the former, I am very interested to see where you got them, as I am interested in modeling many of these myself!
Super robota. W zasadzie zrobiłeś dla Słowackich koleji robotę za całą grupę specjalistów. Dobrze by było gdyby ktoś u góry to rozpatrzył… Mam nadzieję ze zobaczymy filmik w którym informujesz nas że Słowackie koleje zmieniają malowanie z uwzględnieniem twoich sugestii!
Nice work! I really like the new designs! Now if only ZSSK was properly funded...
You really could whisper "Czechoslovak infrastructure" anywhere in the Zanzibar rainforest and the man himself Adam Something would pop up from the bushes xD
Omg it's Adam Something, I hate Russia so much it's almost unreal, please mention me in one of your videos.
Thanks a lot! I would honestly never think youtube would show you this, but it seems like trains be connecting people.
Slovak Railways blackmail was the alternative to this video so hindsight it seems like a good result.
@@daliboritze888 you got Adam to comment, now you need Tantacrul to come full circle.
Also I never noticed our trains are a hodge podge of designs (probably because I'm not a designer) but I won't be able to unsee it now 🙈
@@daliboritze888 Trains do connect people! Except for delays, lack of cross-country ticketing, train control incompatibilities, lack of international rolling stock permitting, lack of English-speaking train drivers and dispatchers, different voltages, and sometimes different gauges.
But hey, Slovakian rail is still better than Hungarian rail; at least you don't have your own IC+ project.
This is a golden video. The fact that you just casually built an entire brand identity for them is just crazy.
oh yes. I have to say, those trains look good.
Glad you liked it♥️. Logo manual and product portfolio might be the next on scope.. maybe.
Holy crap. Well presented, well written, and very well produced... this is an excellent video. Cheers!
i didnt expect hyce of all people to comment on a video about my countries railways
HOLY SHIT IT'S THE BIRBMAN
Na Slovensku potrebujeme viac ludi ako si ty. Perfektne video.
Bro just built a 3D modeling website as a side quest
That's the most mind-blowing part to me. Like, dude 😮
AND made 2 books. Crazy.
Came here from Tom Scott's newsletter .. great work
Same, This is so beautifull made too. Well worth the time.
Wait, what newsletter?
This video has my 3 favourite things: trains, graphic design and Tantacrul music
I'm sold.
Hello fellow Tantacrul fan spotted in the wild :D.
Honestly his music made such a difference, its amazing you noticed.
@@daliboritze888 I wonder if we'll get a Jankman design review...
Its amazing to see we have such a talent here in slovakia. i mean fr, they should hire you, this is brilliant
As someone who thought I made an overkill bachelors thesis. I am fucking floored.
The history lesson and research are really well done, the design is amazing, the presentation incredible.
The fact you even got an interview in. Unbelievable
I know its kind of a dead horse by now but: How does this only have ***700*** views.
I hope you get the call from the slovak train company, would be really cool to see these going into Austria here :D
Thanks♥️. You know the interview is a somewhat funny thing. I contacted a different designer in Bratislava who I know loves trains, so maybe he could be my consultant. So I detailed the story and whose design (Blonsky's) I want to level up. He accepted but told me to also message Mr. Blonsky, so I did, and he also accepted.
These trains man!
Also what was your overkill thesis about?
@@daliboritze888 Implementation of a user experience workflow in companies. Generally just been a hassle of combining a lot of approaches and scope creep. Nowhere near as interesting as your topic though xP
Also really cool how connected designers are in Slovakia! Glad you were able to get in touch with the original designer, added a lot of depth
Congrats again, impressive stuff!
Neuveriteľná práca, klobúk dole Dalibor ! 🎩
I study paint pigments, and something that might be worth noting is that red/orange/yellow pigments are, in my experience, the ones that fade the fastest, and look the worst when faded. Depends of course on the individual pigment. It might be worthwhile listing an actual specific pigment in the design doc, and looking into the ones used in any paint being used. Not sure what pigments are used in train paint though.
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Me too. And I happen to be Czech, and to have grown up with a railway enthusiast father, so this hits close to home.
This video manages to sit perfectly in my niche interests of central Europe, trains and product design - great job! I would definitely watch you do critiques/reviews of other liveries!
Wild to see a 2 day old video this well made with only 200 views
At this rate tomorrow it'll have 20k views
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@@KarolOfGutovo 10k now
@@Sol_7 Huh, about right then. We'll see in 8 hours. And the next day 200k, 2 million by Saturday, and it should pass 2 billion on Tuesday, Providence permittin’ and the creek don’t rise.
It's at 16k views right now
Black doors and black - you called it boomerang - locomotive front side swoosh are very typical for liveries designed by Railcolordesign. They look really good, and for a short period of time ZSSK had such a livery on locomotive 383 110 as well. One interesting effect about adding black as a contrast is that it makes even very old locomotives look increasingly more modern.
3:45 I can infodump about this, and Czech paint schemes:
Electric locomotives and units that run on 3kV DC were painted green, electric locomotives and units that run on 25kV 50Hz AC were painted red and multi-system locomotives (that could run on both systems) were painted blue. The first two were set early and followed well enough, (although prototype locomotives didn't follow this - both the first DC (E499.0) and AC (S479.0) locomotives were actually painted blue). Exceptions are some ES499.0/350 locomotives, which were at first painted grey with a middle white stripe, and then red with a white middle stripe, _and then_ blue/white with the yellow stripe at the front. At least the grey paintjob on the ES499.0 prototype survived until at least the ŽSR scheme repaint, because it had the yellow visibility stripe on the front.
For whatever reason, faster locomotives would have the visibility stripe omitted? The 162 and 362 classes, did not have one, _but not all of them_ , 150/151 class had the stripe either downsized to a thin strip above the headlights (if i remember right), identical stripe in a more orange color, or outright removed.
Actually ŽSSK had this done better, ČD made their multiple units all painted in a blue-grey-red color without regarding what type of current it uses, which would change throughout the years on the City Elefant train. First and second class cars were also more distinct (that is a weird fad shared with the PKP and maybe beyond French and Portuguese Corails I haven't seen this done anywhere)
Diesel locomotives were painted dark red until the 1990s, at which point any design that at least looked like a paint job would've been okayed, same thing applies for the older locomotives of both systems (most notoriously classes 130 and 242). Classes 362 and 363 would also have interesting one-off paintjobs, one I remember was a white-silver-light blue-dark blue and another one that was bluish purple with the regular beige stripe for a 362 class, but much thinner and with the lightning bolt-like shape on the sides, like on 750/3/4 locomotives. Passenger cars were mostly painted white/green, except Eurocity/Intercity cars that came from the 90s onwards, which were white/red, _but not all of them_ , the Beer (obligatory lol) coach had a white/pink/dark blue scheme, and Aee/Bee/Apee/Bpee cars were painted either white/lighter green or white/orange (which may have been an ad for ING at the time). Sleeping cars were white/blue, diner cars I assume stayed light blue (I assume because I've never seen a ČD diner car that was not a WRmz or newer).
What is a mess now is brand stickers and locomotive labeling. Every 362 class I see at my train station has either the original red plate label, or a sticker label, or a sticker label but in another font, or a sticker label that looks okay but then the logo at the front is tiny. Najbrt design had multiple revisions for the locomotives, the first one (which is a white front with a dark blue trapezoid like shape on the side in a light blue outline) is nearly gone on electric locomotives, but not diesel. The "Národní dopravce" had to be added under the logo as well, _as well as_ adding České Dráhy behind the logo. That appears to have been done on most passenger cars and sides of locomotives (not fronts). And multiple units are just back to every different unit having a different design as long as the colors stay the same. 460 and 560 were repainted to a mostly white-dark blue paintjobs, _but not all of them_ .
Regiopanters have more light blue than dark blue, I assume because it's a low floor unit and the window line is large (but then the front has been kept white with only the front plate above the coupler being light blue - why) but a lot of diesel multiple units have either a dark blue-dominant pattern, or just follow what is set for passenger cars. Those mostly have a white/light blue paint scheme with a dark blue stripe below the windows, except sleeping cars and diner cars, which flip the shades of blue around (so dark blue is around the windows now - for clarity, all color/color schemes I mentioned are from the bottom up). ČD Cargo locomotives are only light blue-dark blue, _but not all of them_ , even today so many of them have the old, beaten up paintjob with a ČD Cargo sticker over the ČD logo (for cost saving reasons, that sticker also includes the white background). Every Vectron has a different paint scheme, either plain white, or something more conforming to Najbrt design (but not entirely).
Also, more and more regions/integrated transit systems (PID, IDPK) have their own paint schemes for their networks now. I assume this is out of neccessity because an increasing number of train routes have been taken up by private companies and their trains and having blue, yellow, black/gold and different-blue trains would confuse people more (does my ticket still apply to this one?). I think the PID paint scheme, as bad as the initial concept looked, turned out really well (probably because the designers realized that a paintjob should actually follow the vehicle's geometry even if it is just vertical stripes)
The Najbrt design is its own pack of issues. Out of any primary color, or any color at all, why blue? Who came up with the white fronts? Why not go with the dark blue?
I get they're two different companies, but why do ČD Cargo and ČD (passenger) have completely different logos yet the same typeface and shades of blue?
I am not editing more text into this, so here's a thing I forgot: _Not all_ passenger cars have the same paintjob. The roof paint can be either grey or dark blue. A color I consider awful because trainsim mods won't get it right (I won't blame modders, it is just a weird color).
@@segarallychampionship702 Hello there! You seem to know loads about the Czech paint schemes so I want to ask - is there a catalog of Czech trains and their colour schemes (something like in the video at 6:01 th-cam.com/video/WDghfP8oXvU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=IPBSe6pfOjdLZuvi&t=361)? I'd love to create a colouring book for my friend from it.
@@eRKo-q5g I can't find anything right now. The Najbrt paint scheme surely has a design document available somewhere, but I don't know if it's online or just for ČD's internal use. Czech Wikipedia has RAL color codes for the colors used, but it doesn't list any sources.
Klobúk dole Dalibor! Ďakujem za skvelé video a naozaj obsažný sumár, vývoj a výsledok. Až sa mi nechce veriť, že by naše vlaky mohli vyzerať tak krásne, cool a konzistentne. Dúfam, že to padne na (na)úrodnú pôdu.
the only thing I would criticise (unfortunately) are the black doors. Yes it is very common and very established to make the doors black to gain high contrast for the visually impaired. unfortunately the black opens up a new problem: it is much more difficult to determine whether the doors are open or closed, especially on sunny days, where the inside of the train appears darker than the outside.
Perhaps the orange contrast strip at the bottom of the doors would giv enough indication as to door status? We have a similar problem in Melbourne, where someone complained that our door "dressing" looked similar to the inter-carriage gap which led to bellows being added to the gap on our newer trains.
@@chriscollingwood6650 I think the German ICE trains have solved this problem pretty well by just using a black outline for the doors, which makes gives them a strong contrast while still helping you see, if they are open or not as the doors themselves are white.
Výborná práca Dalibor. Dizajn vozidiel ZSSK (ZSR) nebol vo svojej podstate nikdy zjednotený a mne osobne to vždy trhalo oči. Veľmi dobre spracovaná problematika dizajn manuálu aj samotného videa. Klobúk dole. Veľmi rád si prečítam tvoju záverečnú prácu.
Underrated work! ZSSK should adapt it!
This... is absolutely incredible. I'm a designer that dabbles in livery design mainly on airplanes, but this is next level. I bow before you.
🫡my hat is also to you
Banger of a video. This amount of effort should be more than enough of a master thesis! Hope you can use lots of that for future academic endeavours and with your career.
Looking forward to see more.
You would go absolutely mental if you ever went to Romania and saw all the different color schemes on coaches that form the same train.
Vidím tu neuveriteľnú robotu, verím, že sa tvoje návrhy presadia 👏
Kokot asi sa nepresadia keď píšeš v slovenčine ty tupec. A ja tiež. Teraz som mu úplne zničil algoritmus kvôli tebe. Dúfam že si rad
This is a gem seemingly out of nowhere that somehow ALSO HAS TANTACRUL MUSIC?!
we need more Tantacrul music in videos
Bro just reinvented Railjet-livery. I love it
More like Cityjet but with colors white and red switched. But it looks even better. Like a Cityjet 2.0
11,500 views. On a video this well made. How is that *it*?
Seriously, this is some really impressive work! Puts some of the designers of modern liveries in the UK to shame, and those are liveries on revenue-earning services. It kind of reminds me of late-generation British Rail liveries - Network SouthEast mixed with Intercity Swallow, for example - but that's at most a passing similarity. Consistent, one design language, original, clever use of colour. 10/10, I hope that Slovak Railways either use your design or make their own that actually does the job!
wow, užasné video, skvelo prezentované aj cením tvoju dobrú angličtinu :D. Asi čas na petíciu aby ten otrasný dizajn fakt zmenili...
Your redesign is beautiful. I hope someone at ZSSK sees this and likes it enough to use the design.
To be honest, why should they? It still has its own issues and is also not ideal. This presented idea would also need "tuning".
Great video. I got similar problem (incosistency!) with Slovak road signs - they keep adding new layouts, new fonts and you got this feeling of overwhelming graphical chaos.
I think I have seen somewhere, that old designs will be valid for 20 more years. Some of the oldest signs were already removed, like on public road you shouldnt be able to see old communist non reflective signs, however they are still visible inside of factories on their private premises.
Skvělý video! vždy mi na Slovenských vlacích přišlo něco nudnýho a nepěknýho, tenhle design určitě o dost lepší a bylo by super kdyby si toho někdo v ŽSSK všiml
This was amazing, truly. Also helped me better understand the choices ÖBB made on the trains I use regularly, especially the redesigned livery on their old Dostos made those look literally decades more modern.
This is madness... and I'm all here for it. I love your design and I seriously hope that someone from the railway company at least considers using it. I also like that you talked with the previous designer, sounds like a cool dude
toto je geniálné!! 🎉❤ great job king
I don’t know why the algorithm decided to show me - a random transit nerd in Los Angeles, California - this. But I’m glad it did!
Honestly, this is a fantastic design for a very difficult problem, and it’s one you solved incredibly well! The boomerang/eyelash motif, in particular, looks FANTASTIC.
While red and orange are definitely not a common color scheme, you make it work very well, in a way that reminds me of many 1970s livery designs in the USA - particularly San Francisco’s “Sunset” design.
Also, have to say, the website is incredibly well done - though I’d check your links for “Train Design Abroad,” they seem to be broken?
Very, very impressive all around!
Nicely done! Tom gave you a shoutout...
Holy crap, what a spectacular thesis.
Wow! That was just amazing! But one small thing, I just couldn't stop thinking about that Tantacrul's corporate music video when I heard that music
The algorithm is cooking again
Also I recommend looking at the Hungarian State Railways' liveries through the years, they've had quite a few versions
I always liked the simplicity of the old blue-white hungarian liveries. It went to its evergreen stage... but then they decided to do the intercity+ stuff. This is why we cant have nice things.
But I strongly believe that Adam Something will do a video like that and I cant wait.
@@daliboritze888And they're changing it again, and the best part, they wont apply the new liveries to trains that wont be on the rails for that much longer. Funny thing to say when we have V43s still pulling international trains...
Perfektné! Vidím, že do toho šlo veľa tvojho času a kiež by sme sa k takémuto niečomu reálne dopracovali, naozaj super!
Úžasné video. Skvelé spracovanie od úvodu, vysvetlenie histórie, popis problémov až k riešeniu, ktoré bolo úžasne odprezentované na 3d modeloch. Manuál vyzerá super a môžeme snívať aby ho ZSSK adaptovala. Verím že takáto diplomovka bola úspešne obhájená!
Holy heck! This was absolutely amazing. You have a really great style. Cheers from Hungary!
Thank you Dalibor for this, it shwos you have given it a lot of heart and effort. Greetings from Slovakia
Pěkný video, cením to nadšení, greetings to Slovakia
I'm an industrial design student and I particularly love trains. This is SO good - you seem like you'll become a guiding light for the future of the railways.
That's a lot of dedication! It looks great! Especially the mountain graphics on TEŽ!
Hope that someone in the Ministerstvo Dopravy will see your work and they hire you one day ;)
Nice work! I have to admit when you were sitting amongst the railways tracks it made me a little nervous:D
Who is this guy and why is he not famous yet? I don't even care for trains that much but this was fascinating. Good job!
Jemine, toto je šialené. Well done, good job!
This video is such a hidden gem. Great work Dalibor!
Zajímavé a parádně zpracované video.
Ten váš návrh na design vypadá fakt dobře, hlavně na té laminátce, kde to vypadá jako kdyby se z ní stal nějakej sporťák xd
An amazing branding story captured in this video! You're incredibly talented-wishing you clients who can bring it to life.
Amazing work and very well put-together video. Cheers from Hungary.
Thanks Tom Scott!
Good visualization and in-depth explanation research supported narrative makes me automatically subscribe! Looking forward for your another top notch video👍 Keep up the good work
How do you only have 550 subs? When I watched the video I thought that it was made by someone with at least 300k. Excellent work!
I dont know why Im seeing this but I love it! I hope the algorithm lets this see more than the 176 others that have so far!
Already got 6000 views just a day later
This is Tantacrul, but Slovak and Trains. What an odd, but wonderful combination.
Hahah the algorythm cooking again. It's an honour to use Tantacrul's music, otherwise the calibre of jank just wouldn't be done justice.
Beautifully done in all respects, congratulations! Hope you keep posting!
Amazing video! Love how you just redesigned their whole brand. Imagine they adapt your design
This video is incredible, as a train fan i loved it and i noticed there is a similar problem in Bosnia, ŽFBH, their railway has a blue and orange logo but from what i know not a single one of their trains actually has those colors
Velmi pekna praca :) Je vidno, ze ta tema bavi a dal si si zalezat aj na prezentacii. Keep it up!
Ahoj, I must say as a fellow Czech railfan/worker who visit Slovakia for 10 years and have a friends there. Those new paint schemes are great! You made old class 350 to look like 30 years younger 😀.
Tom Scott tohle video dal jako video týdne do jeho newsletteru!
holy moly :0, to je brutal
@@daliboritze888 nechce sa mi pisat anglicky . Musim ta pochvalit si velmi sikovny , video je krasne prepracovane co sa obsahu tyka - mas peknu plynulu anglictinu . Zial bohu cele to len reflektuje vsadepritomny marazmus a absenciu akejkolvek koncepcnosti / koncepcionality /- ktora sa nas uz 10rocia drzi . Uz len ten tvoj pocin akehosi zjednotenia farebnych schem je velmi chvalyhodny - v spolupraci s navrharom . Sice si pamatam ako zeleznicna spolocnost / fanusikovska zakladna / zurila na inifikovany blonsi nater - fuj fuj . Mne osobne sa tiez pacil modrobiely hugo aj 350 v papagajovom nateri . Ale koncept tychto troch farieb by sa lahko mohol menit na inu trojicu farieb ...modra v dvoch odtienoch / biela / siva kazdopadne ta velmi chvalim a prajem ti vela zdaru .
Very well made. I would also appreciate a video on train logistics in Slovakia. And how it would make the train to not be late
Shut up and take my money. Lovely work! Best regards from Slovenia!
Imagine if one day the HR's of ZSSK saw this video and hired you to redesign their current fleet's liveries
Well the work is pretty much done they just have to pay him.
perfektné video, moje OCD plesá, hybaj za ministrom a šup maľovať
This is awesome. You have a bright future ahead of you!
Cool stuff! Vynikajuca práca bratku!
Wow! Really nice work! The design, presentation and the website! I still kinda prefer our ČD Najbrt, but that's mainly because I am Czech and I like blue color more.
1:49 "Music by Tantacrul" - This is where I knew I made the right decision by clicking on this video.
Bravo!
One potential pitfall I can think of (not covered in the vid, my apologies if it is in the thesis text itself) is - colorblindness and the need to distinct the red and orange.
Wau, ty jsi extremne sikovny, krasna prace a super video! -Dalibor
I just wish this video was longer. Could listen to you for hours. I've never actually thought about trains this way. I just felt like the visual style was kinda all over the place I guess 😄Have to say I absolutely adore your work on this, especially what you did with the doors, since I have problem spotting them quite often. I hope ZSSK will see this someday. Say hi to Ivan for me 👋Keep it up!
It's incredible how much passion-driven hard work went into this project
wooow kamo super video!! urcite pokracuj :))
hats off to you, sir! that eyelash design really kicks ass. made old locos look like state of the art. btw skoda made some amazing and innovating designs back then.
Wow. What a great video, you have a bright future ahead of you. Well done.
What an excellent video! Would love to see your take on other countries' train liveries!
Super video a super využitie Tantacrulovej hudby :)
Nádhera, doufám, že vyhraješ výběrko na vizuál ZSSK.
kks riadne prepracované... good job !
This compliments the czech train livery extremly well
Brilliant! I'm sure you have an outstanding future ahead of you my friend.
Wow. Just wow. Great video and outstanding work. Congrats.
What a brilliant piece of design philosophy and technique. As others have said, you designed a whole brand, livery and fleet. Fantastic. If you had the .stl files for 3D printing, maybe others could try and print out the real things for you. I can't as I am not a 3D printer, but I know people are very interested in such things. All the best, Dalibor. Cheers!
excellent video. it's fascinating how impactful it is to have a consistent design language despite the fact that we never really consciously realize it when something is poorly designed.
I will be waiting excitedly for a Ceske drahy video. :)
Since i am from slovakia i have to say this video is just amazing!
Honestly really good video! Love it man!
I remember this piece of trivia from my research: Rail passenger use topped out in 1959 and slowly was replaced by buses as a preferred way to commute (Nigrin, 2018). If you want to know why trains suck in SK, then go to the rail station in Banksá Štiavnica or Kremnica. It is good exercise.
Amazing video, the visuals and your opinions really enhanced the story. Great pacing too.
I do like a messy train but I get that it doesn't really inspire confidence in the service for passengers.
I like our Belgian design because it's so simple and utilitarian yet classy at the same time. It feels nice coming home to a place where the trains aren't screaming for attention with bright colours. Austria probably has the coolest design in Europe.
I like what you did with the bright orange line on top of the red, but one single color for the door would fit better I think.
Dobrá robota.
Ešte poďme pokecať o spoľahlivosti našich železníc :)
This is an insane amount and quality of work. I hope this actually goes through.
Banger prezentácie práce, chválim veľmi side quest stránky. Na bakalárku extrémne prepracované
Thanks for explaining that. It turns out my confusion with Slovak railways is justified. We need someone like you to redesign the mess we have here in Poland 😶
Three weeks later, your video popped up on my home page right now! Even though the last time I used ZSSK trains was around 2019-2020, I would love to see your design come to life. Keep it up!
Now that the railway design is complete, how about tackling the Trnava MHD vehicles? It's a real mess out here.
finally a vid about slovak trains!! this video is great and your redesigns would be great for ZSSK (even tho i am really partial to the Vectron livery with the two hands holding up the railroad's logo)
I do have a question tho, did you make the models on actual measurements/engineering diagrams, or did you largely do it by eye? If you did the former, I am very interested to see where you got them, as I am interested in modeling many of these myself!
Super robota. W zasadzie zrobiłeś dla Słowackich koleji robotę za całą grupę specjalistów. Dobrze by było gdyby ktoś u góry to rozpatrzył…
Mam nadzieję ze zobaczymy filmik w którym informujesz nas że Słowackie koleje zmieniają malowanie z uwzględnieniem twoich sugestii!