The Best Watches In The World ? A. Lange & Söhne - Ultimate Luxury
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- The Best Watches In The World ? A Lange & Söhne - Ultimate Luxury
In this episode of Federico Talks Watches I talk about what might be the best luxury watch brand in the world, A. Lange & Söhne. A German brand from Glashutte, they seem to do things one step above every other luxury watch brand out their. Movement finishing, detailing and overall quality is top notch. Some compare them to Patek Philippe. I personally think they are one step above Patek as well.
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I would get a Lange before a Patek. Ultra luxury and attention to detail at a lower price point. Great video.
I am very lucky to own two Lange watches. These guys are on a different level. The finishing we all know is faultless, but also the accuracy. Both watches are around 1 second out a week!!!
No question, the nicest watches out there today.. Beautiful !!
If you know names, you buy a Rolex/Patek, if you know watches, you buy A. Lange & Söhne
I agree with you Federico. People commonly think Patek makes the "best" watches, but purely from mechanics / finishing point of view, I reckon Lange tops Patek. As much as I love Patek, I think the modern Patek watches are 70% fluff (clever marketing and quantity control) and 30% substance.
lange tops patek.......mmmmmmmmmmmm im not sure but the datograph certanly tops patek
I'll preface this by saying I prefer Lange myself BUT....I think you're wrong.
There are a variety of ways you measure greatness. From a technical stand point, Patek's watches are thinner and smaller diameter for the same "amount" of complications which means they nearly always wear better. This is especially apparent in the difference in grand complications. Patek's movements have fewer parts which also means that they're easier to service. Patek also does more complicated stuff more frequently. Lange got into minute repeaters and sonneries in the past decade which is significant because these are the most complex mechanisms in existence. Patek has an entire line of minute repeaters and the like from many decades ago. In fact, their minute repeaters are considered the gold standard by pretty much every expert, outshining even the likes of JLC. Beyond this, things like the instant time change mechanisms were done by Patek before as well and they are standard fair for their high end pieces. Patek also dabbles more grand complications and has many more technically complex wrist watches than Lange, which has only one. The Henry Grave's supercomplication pocketwatch was a feat of mechanical microengineering made almost a century ago that still is considered among the most complicated watches in the world.
SO the 70% fluff thing is hardly a fair assessment. You don't get to be king by being a slouch...unless you're Rolex of course.
My V.Constantin Small Patrimony ,gold , caliber 1400 , is LATE 4/5 MINUTES / week !!!!! bought NEW for 9000+ Euro !!!! so much for ,,in house " caliber !!! My ,, dirty work watch " ORIS big crown 12 years old , Caliber ETA , is ,,late " ,perhaps 1.5 minutes for 14 days !!!!
@@dacomaniac
Rolex is just marketing....90% of rolex owners dont even know what is tge movement of their watch
Mechanical vs mechanics
1851 chronograph will shit on any daytona
I have a Patek and an A. Lange. Both are great; I would never throw shade at either expert watchmakers. But if I had to choose, I would choose the A. Lange. There is just that little unidentifiable something about them. Perhaps it is because they just make less and you see less of them. But whatever it is, the A. Lange makes my heart skip a beat. Can you say that about another watchmaker today?
Informative video with great insights. I recently was able to try on both, one Patek and one A. Lange Söhne and I must say that you can feel the slightly higher quality of the Lange Söhne. You can be feel the heft and see the impressive finishing details on the Lange Söhne is slightly better and somewhat more affordable than the Pateks. I'm glad this brand is getting the recognition it deserves. Keep up the great work Federico. Your work is much appreciated.
I can't agree more.. I'm mad about Patek but 100% sure that if A.Lange & sohne was Swiss company, it would be rated higher by people. great video 👍
This video is so on point, A Lange is the pinnacle of Luxury watches with an amazing show room, and ultra passionate sales staff. Get A Lange 1 or die trying. Nice video Federico!
i've got a Rolex, JLC Reverso, Breitling Navitimer, and my grail Patek 5960 rose gold chrono. Fred, I just drool for a Lange, but can't afford one yet. A few years of saving and extra work. The Lange 1 grand moon phase, platinum....awesome! Lange are so well made and engineered. What do you think about Nomos? I'm very impressed with them as well.
Works of art.
This is one of the few channels where I watch each video, and if I am too early, come back again later so I can read more replies. It's great to have excellent episodes with a community of subscribers that add quality comments!
Amazing video - you and I have the same taste I believe Federico. For all those wanting more Lange information, they have a TH-cam channel with AMAZING footage of their complications and finishing techniques!
Absolutely great youtube channel, spot on.
This is the kind of videos I like, great great information and well approached... Awesome video, man. Keep it up!!!
Thank you Gerson... I am glad you enjoyed it my man.
Please make videos like this from different manufacturers. People want to know about them in more detail especially from someone that knows inside stuff etc.
You nailed it Frederico! I personally like the Lange 1 Time Zone...beautifully done.
My Grail watch is the 1815 Rattrapante. There's some on here saying ALS has no personality. Well. I think it has more personality than any other watch
Really enjoy your reviews. Such a refreshing take on horology, your're incisive
without being pompous. You're able relate on all levels of Watch tiers, which is unusual.
Most vloggers can only deal brands that the're familiar with, not to mention a certain Australian fella.
Thank you Maynard, I appreciate the compliment...
This is why I love this channel; Patek is unarguably a top brand, but Lange have always been criminally underrated in my opinion. The Lange 1 Moonphase is my Holy Grail watch. Your content is always superb Federico!
Dear Federico, you are 100% right, Lange & Söhne are most probably the best watches in terms of decoration of the movement, high quality etc, apart of course some independent watch makers such as GF, F.P. Journe and others. But one has to keep in mind that GF entry level in steel is > 100 000 $, while L&S entry level is around 20 000 $ brand new in gold. This accounts also...Again Big congrats for your very interesting and educating reviews.
I just love and respect Lange, hope one day i am honor enough to own one
I agree with you 100%! They are my favorite brand!
I know it's the entry collection, but I absolutely love the Saxonia line. I'm a babby watch collector (the "crown" of my small collection is a Nomos Tangente), but my grail piece is the base rose gold Saxonia. Classic, totally elegant, with an insane movement and unreal decoration.
I watched an interview here on youtube with Phillippe Dufor and he names the Datograph as the best chronograph in the world and shows his personal one off.
As a kid , I love Omega. Teen, Patek. Only recently (2021) that I ultimately switch to ALS
Epitome of fine craftsmanship. Deserves reputation as the best watch brand
Wow, I had no idea! I would love to see the A. Lange & Sohne movement up close. I actually, for me, the watch design and style is like 10%. I'm a huge movement fan. For me that's where the real wonder is. They're movements, what I can see of them, is just amazing. Thank you for the exposure.
On the datograph pink gold or platinum, I’ve join the waiting list on the pink gold , but still thinking about the platinum, which is the best one to hold its value , as I don’t mind spending a big chunk of money but want it in something that won’t drop like a stone
Apart from a Chronometre Bleu by FP Journe, a Lange chronograph has always been my grail watch. An 1815 chronograph, a Datograph Up-Down or a Double Split would make me very happy indeed!
Great video Federico! I tried on an 1815 chronograph in a London jewellers, it went straight to the top of my grail list. The finishing was unbelievable, on a level like nothing else I've ever seen.
they are almost impossible to beat...
Wonderful video of an awesome brand!! There’s Truly nothing like A Lange!!!
As a watch lover and a German guy I can clearly say that A. Lange & Söhne has a clear commitment towards their watches. Every piece is just perfect. My own Lange 1.... soon....
I choose a saxonia moonphase for my 50th birthday after having seen your video. Thank you for this video
Well, i adore ALS watches. 1815 chronograph boutique edition is my dream watch and if once i could afford a watch from this price range i would definitely go lange. But i admit the king of watch making is Patek Philippe. If u compare brands from different aspects like heritage, finishing level, history, tradition, exclusivity, reliability, prestige it shows that the top of luxury watches is patek. But i find A. Lange und Söhne and Jaeger Lecoultre watches more appealing according to my taste. Btw good video.
Regarding A Lange & Söhne, it is quite subjective whether one considers them as "the best luxury watch brand", having said that quite agree that watches produced them are absolutely gorgeous and the movement quite sturdy compared to Patek and others. We already had our heart set on Lange 1815, you just gave us another nudge towards Lange.
On a personal note - love your videos. You have such an endearing personality. Keep making these videos.
Hi Federico , your French is really good :) , and the video is as always very informative , the content and the approach are really clever and fair (and bring some fresh air in those kind of videos) take care !
The Lange 2015/16 catalogue which I have next to my desk is another example of their "toujours faire mieux que nécessaire" style of thinking. An almost inch thick book full of the most beautiful photos of watches. Heaven knows how much it cost them to send it from Germany to my house. Though I do dream of repaying them with a purchase one day.... Thanks for the video Federico, take care.
I have only recently developed a deep interest in horology and began to learn more and more about the watch industry. I first came across Lange in one of Jenni Elle's videos, and am so impressed with this brand and their craftsmanship. It's highly unlikely I will ever own a Lange, but it's nice to dream. The model 1815 is my grail watch for sure.
You are absolutely right, Lange is an outstanding watch. The Datograph is recognized as the very best chronograph in the market. Great video Federico!
Couldn’t agree more. Been wanting your grail watch the Dato U/D for years now and finally got one a couple days ago. It’s incredible. Great video, and thanks for the informative info on A. Lange.
1815 flyback chronograph in black dial it’s my first Lange
I respect and like A. Lange & Söhne a lot. Especially their movement decoration. I however feel about them the same i feel about a lot of Pateks. I personally wouldn't let a dress watch be my ultimate grail watch. If A. Lange & Söhne decided to make a sports watch that would possibly be a strong competitor to the Nautilus.
Great video as always! Keep it up!
Thats definitely a point of view that differs from mine... But I get it... Personally I would have no issue wearing a dressier piece everyday...
I have a VC American 1921 as my everyday watch and I must say that being a casual dresser I sometimes wonder if I shouldn't have gone for a Chronomètre Bleu instead (it was hard to decide back then).
I entirely agree with you Federico ! I used to own a A.Lange & Sohne....I sold it...and it's still killing me :)
You actually missed 2 other original Fileger watch manufacturers
there are Lange, Stowa, Wempe, IWC and Laco
Anyhow great content as always
Federico, really appreciate your videos. Great knowledge and insights. To that point, I am looking at dress watches and would love A Lange & Soehne, but Glashutte and Zenith seem also good affordable second choices. Really attracted to the movement aspects of the watch. Is el Primero enough to put Zenith in the same category as Glashutte? If you would enjoy a comparison between the three brands - especially the dress watches - it would be really great to hear your opinion. Of course, one day I might be able to afford the A Lange & Soehne :) and then the choice would be clear. Kind regards!
Love their gorgeous, clean dials.
Amazing aren't they...
As a watch repairer of 53 years in my experience Lange are superior quality than
Patek or Vacheron. John Anderson
Hastings uk
Lange is much higher then Patek. I found out some ugly things about Patek at Watch Week in Dubai from somebody who worked for them and since then hmm.. it's not on my list anymore. Lange is the best and many watchmakers are saying this, not only me. Great video and awesome topic Frederico. Keep up the good work. Cheers.
In my opinion Lange is miles ahead of Patek as far as genuine watchmaking goes. I'd pick up a Lange over a Patek or AP or Vacheron any day! My grail is the stunning Datograph Perpetual with the grey dial!
Agree with your appreciation and ranking of “A Lange & Soehne” as being the best in class watchmaker. FP Journe is in a class of its own. I will not throw shade on PF, just not my cup of tea.
Any A. Lange & Sohne is my Grail watch. I am a new subscriber and love the channel. Please keep up the excellent work. Particularly give the Germans more of a look. I have a Sinn 104, and a Laco Saarbrucken. What do you think of Glashutte Original?
Could you consider doing a video telling us about Vacheron Constantin and what makes them special?
Vacheron Constantine used to be considered the #1 watchmaker back in the day and it's considerably older than Patek Philippe. Vacheron was founded in the late 1700's and it was popular with Royalty and the Aristocrats of the late Renaissance and Imperial era. I would say they have an 'old money' vibe to them in the sense that anyone who is Nouveau Riche will more likely buy a Patek or Rolex, whereas people with a history of wealth in their family will either be handed down a Vacheron Constantine or choose to go with it because their father or grandfather owned one. Also, Pateks designs are more conservative due to the protestant movement going on during their founding; Vacheron has a more French extravagance kind of style.
Audemars Piguet was always a high end brand from it's beginnings in the late 1800's though it struggled to keep up until the early 1970's when Gentra designed the Royal Oak for them. It was the first true luxury steel sports watch. It took off and has since become one of the most iconic watches of all time; that single model is what kept Audemars alive and it's been an influence on the Patek Philipe Nautilus and Vacheron Constantine Overseas.
Anastasia Dreiser-Ignatieff Thank you for the information.
Anastasia Dreiser-Ignatieff Makes a ton of sense. How could any man not fall in love with the royal oak design?
Agreed, I would love to see more Vacheron. I love the brand
Always great reviews. Thanks. I just received my first Lange, a Saxonia Thin in white gold. It really is more stunning in person. Lange really does right.
Lange is my ultimate grail, I may have to settle for a JLC Master Calander in Steel. Another great video. I'm going to subscribe to this channel right now.
Excellent Federico,agree totally about A.Lange & sohne,keep the good work up.
Hey Federico, I love your channel. It's one of the best out there. Can you or somebody else explain why the double window date is so complicated to produce?
Nicely done!, the only correction I would make is that there were 5 companies the produced the original flieger watches, which includes all of the companies you mentioned but the two you missed were Lacher & Co.(Laco) and IWC.
Excellent review Federico. I really admire Lange too. I'd love to get a Lange 1 moonphase, but can't yet make up my mind between the 38.5mm Lange 1 with the moon in the seconds sub dial, or the 41mm Grand Lange 1 with the moon in the hour/minutes sub dial.
I agree with you. A Lange and Shone is far superior than the patek because when I saw its internal parts finishing the thickness of the watch far exceeds the patek
I was just looking at A Lange & Söhne watches and was just amazed by them. Then I found this video that you did about them. So I am not surprised that you hold them in such high regard. Great Video.
I agree with you : I will always remember the first time that i tried on the datograph at my AD . this was a great experience !
Its an absolute killer piece
for me an A.Lange watch is like a Pateck watch for people with good taste
I find it amazing that I got a second hand WG Richard Lange (in mint condition) 3 years ago for less than half the price of the present day Panda Daytona. It’s beautiful and a keeper so I don’t mind it trading at a big discount from the MSRP.
The datograph is beautiful. The finish and detailing is the best, even better than Patek. I also love how they aren't afraid to make deep watches, so when you look in the back it has an intense 3D look. As if you could get in there and visit like a small city with skyscrapers and ramps.
Based on some Chinese seller
They think that langue is the most handcrafted and realizable watch
And they think, PP only do better job on high level, but langue always do best
Wow!! And all this time I thought PP, VC and Breguet were the most decorated pieces ever. My fav Lange is the Lange 1
Great video :)
Tried on a Lange 1 couple months ago. Definitely one of my grails.
yeah, its hard to beat...
Hi Federico, I have my Grand Date Langematic coming in tomorrow 40.5 mm black dial, thanks for your review, Lange is a better Watch, the movement is breathtaking
Nice video as always, "toujours faire mieux que nécessaire" means exactly "always do better than necessary", "always =toujours ", " everyday = tous les jours ", your French is excused lol, thankyou for your videos and sharing your knowledge in horology with us.
Great video Federico. I really enjoy watching it.
My personal opinion is that A. Lange & Söhne is world no. 1 luxury watch brand in this moment.
Looking from the watch design perspective, I think that it can be say that we are currently living in the A. Lange & Söhne period.
In a same way as first two decades of the 20th century are marked by Cartier’s design and period of 1970's and 1980's with designs of Gérald Genta, the period of first two decades of this century is marked with A. Lange & Söhne creations.
All their timepieces are perfect in almost every way. Datograph Up & Down presented in your video, 1815 collection with spectacular GRAND COMPLICATION or my favorite ZEITWERK.... there are no pictures that can describe them well enough. Only when you see them in real live and when you take them in your hands, you can realize how special they are.
They are truly “…better than necessary” in every way.
Consequentially, their prices are also special: ZEITWERK around 70.000 EUR, Datograph Up and Down from your video is over 80.000 EUR. Some models from Saxonia and 1815 collections are between 20 and 50 thousands EUR what makes them, let’s say “more affordable”. But then there is the Grand Complication from 1815 collection made in limited collection of only 6 pieces, each of them priced between 1.9 and 2.1 million EUR!. I’m not sure that all 6 of them are even made yet, since almost 2 years of handwork is needed for production of one of those watches.
I doubt that I’ll will ever have chance to own one of them, but from time to time I enjoy watching them in shops and fairs in the same way as I enjoy other fine art. But who knows…maybe one day ….
My favorite brand as well !!!
How do you feel about Lange now producing a steel sports watch?
I am only now getting increasingly educated about mechanical watches, and own a nice 'beginner's' watch with two simple date complications. I have looked now at a LOT of the incredibly expensive watches, and I agree with you. I Love Lange & Sohne. They are beautiful.
Lange is a class of its own!
I love your videos. Very informative 👍🏻
Lange 1 is my grail watch, for over ten years.
Dear Frederico, for People who have the cash, there is only Lange and Patek Philippe according to Quality and inreasing value They have the Knowledge, history starting with pocket watches and everything. Second is Vacheron, JLC and AP, maybe IWC with the older models. What is interesting, is the fact to find the right models in the brand and here I love your choice very often. Thanks for that !
Have you seen the Tourbograph perpetual Honeygold from the Homage collection. It is out of this world
Love this type of content. Very informative and exciting. Keep it up!
Thank you bud! much appreciated.
Nope its Patek Phillipe
I don't personally agree... But different strokes I guess...
@richard stevens nope its Lange. (also there are a handful of other who make way better watches than Patek)
Very good vid. Thank you.
Awesome video - very informative as usual! Will never own one - clearly above my level of affordability but I endlessly respect them for not getting into diver/sports watch market - they truly represent sophistication. Will always favor by far neat complications and movement work over "iconic" looks with total lack of complications of other brands we all know. How can we not respect the company that represents what horology and watchmaking really means in its essence. A Lange & Sohne is the hell of the brand!
I agree. I have for a long time now considered Lange and Sohn the best timepieces. I have an IWC and because the UK is not far from Switzerland I have been to their factory a few times. Some IWC watchmakers also think Lange and Sohn timepieces are the world's best. I wish I could afford to buy one. A Lange One would suit me fine
I almost Pulled the trigger on a Saxonia for £8500 in White Gold. However i prefer the Rose gold. Since Rolex are messing people around so much and getting one is so tough, together with seeing how much better a Grand Seiko is i've moved away from Patek/rolex to Lange/Grand Seiko
Federico. Nice video! Lange is my fav brand for a long time but unlucky I can't afford it.. But you should check out the Langematik Perpetual... It is my grail and the display back is by far the most beautiful one I've ever seen in my life... Personally feel like it's better than the datograph..
The back shows nothing except the rotor and balance wheel.
Nice vid Federico, ...Like.
Being new to the watch world I thought they were an old continuous company, definitely at the top of their field.
Glad you got something out of it Bo
Great video Federico. For those who can't afford a Lange- most can't , I think a GO Glasshutte Original comes close . Same classic German look in steel . Great reliability and also beautiful decoration. GO is a brand flying under the radar but it too is starting to get noticed. I noticed the Lange Datograph at an AD and was impressed with its wrist presence. It's the best . When I inquired about the price, I gulped. 90 k. One can always dream .
Great video Federico. Really informative as always. This is quickly becoming my favourite watch channel
At the moment they are number one, just they need some more time to take the real position in the luxury market, despite that im a VC fan, i have spent more on Lange timepieces. they are simply perfect, cant find any thing but perfection in these watches.
just look at them and you realize how much care and time has been spent on them, and this is how to make a luxury watch.
Very informative video about A. L&S.
@5:42 I'm waiting on the pop up?😕
I have always loved Lange & Sohne , the datograph my favorite for years. I do admit though I never thought about their history. That did throw me a little...
Great video Federico very informative & I guess the watch is still my grail .
Would absolutely get a Lange over a Patek, and a "entry level" Patek (sub $20k) over anything else in not only that process range, but also a Calatrava, which is the gold standard in my opinion.
You might find that a Lange 1815 might stick all the boxes that a Calatrava does. I would like a hand wound Calsyrava, but I'm disappointed that they 215PS is still being used. This is a small movement compared to even a 38mm case.
ALS is definitely my favorite watch company. They top Patek for me.
i agree 100% with your opinion about this watch brand. for me too its the best of the best ! Pure German Precision
Thanks to share! You are always provide with very interesting and useful information! You are the best!
Dude u really know great watches.
Toujours faire mieux que nécessaire. I like it (and very well pronounced btw)
Totally agree with you on every aspect. lange & sohne also my holy grail watch. Absolutely yern for a Datagraph in platinum.
as do I my friend, as do I
I agree the Datograph is my all time Grail watch for me
Great video as usual Federico !! I have a question that might make a good topic for your Chanel. I'm looking at buying my first high end piece and wondering what your views are on budgeting for a new watch and what percentage of your savings is a sensible amount to spend an a particular watch before buying it is a stupid decision?
Everybody has different ideas on this... I don't really have a formula, I just spend what I am comfortable with...