Wow. Joe REALLYYY exposed his inner Diaz fanboyism here. That was hard to watch. Any semblance of objectivity went right out the window as soon as Diaz was brought up...
*GongsunXin* -- What's my point? If it wasn't crystal clear already, my point was that Joe is extremely biased when it comes to Diaz. Joe is usually able to remain neutral when talking about fighters but he lets his emotions get the better of him whenever Diaz is talked about... and ESPECIALLY if talking about Diaz vs McGregor.
Ryan Dawson that's my point. The OP sounded like they were saying the fight wasn't really that close. Diaz v McGregor needs to happen one more time. And Joe is right. It'll sell the best anyways.
true mma fan wants to see the best most entertaining fight possible....f*ck money...a good fight will make money it will spread by word of mouth afterwards. 3rd diaz fight doesn't interest me, wouldn't waste my money or time watching that
Joe is wrong here. If McGregor went 0-2 against Nate that would have been it, nobody would want to watch a third fight since we the casual fan doesn’t view judging as deeply as Joe. Think Joe got a little aggressive with Schaub for disagreeing maybe due to sober no weed October.
Joe Rogan agrees with Brendon on Conor winning the second fight, but what he was trying to explain to Brendon is that the second fight was basically a draw and it was so close it could have gone either way. But make a third and final fight to see who's the better man. Boom. End of story.
Well your wrong cuz Conor lost his last 2 fights and yet his still the biggest draw in ufc his numbers are way bigger then anyone else literally almost every fight of Conor broke the top 10 in ufc ppv
nate doesn't deserve title shot coming off a loss either...ferguson has interim title give him next shot. Or mcgregor can fight diaz after he gives up his belt 1st
it makes a lot of sense actually...he's saying nate won the 2nd fight against mcgregor which some people think cause it went to decision and that depends on how you scored it. Then rogan is saying in terms of money fight diaz is the best choice, mcgregor can fight diaz after he gives up his belt to ferguson...no biggie
GrowingDownUnder “I been a part of the haters for ages” lmao why hate? Trash talking sells fights and that’s why he does it. You can even see him and Nate have a respect for each other. Its business and that’s why he’s making the most money.
Schaubs right on this one. Nate and Connor could fight at anytime, so they can wait a few years and still make that. Nate doesn't plan on fighting in the next few years if it isn't against Conor, so obviously the fight to make is Conor/Ferguson. Plus even if Conor loses the trilogy fight, it still makes sense time to do the fight with Nate. If he wins and unifies the titles however, you have a gigantic trilogy super fight for the undisputed 155 belt.
don't blame the pot geez, it's just a tropical annual herbaceous medicinal plant that has no negative side effects absolutely 0. There is no possible way it can cause you to act in a negative manner only positive...with that said yes he should smoke pot again and but that's just because why not smoke pot
Both fights are justified. Diaz-Conor are 1-1 and Tony is the Interim champ. Both of them need to happen, who cares which one is first....It will be a great fight either way.
Yeah Joe’s losing touch with the common audience. Or he becomes all disillusioned when he starts talking about Conor. He’s spitting some ridiculous shit here. Bottom line, Conor vs. Diaz does better PPVs, but not that much better, and it’ll always be there. There’s NO reason to do the 3rd Diaz fight right now, other than Conor protecting himself/ufc protecting him. Schuab is right: Conor needs to be next for his career/legacy. Plus, as Luke Thomas pointed out recently, stop giving a fuck about what does best PPVs. Idgaf. The next fight to watch is Conor/Tony. Conor can do his little Nate BS later.
I think they are underestimating a McGregor vs Ferguson draw. Is Diaz REALLY a household name? I didn't know who he was until I was a UFC fan. UFC fans are the ones attending and buying the PPV. Diaz is losing relevance while Tony is gaining momentum. If you don't want to see McGregor vs Ferguson, you probably wouldn't attend either event. Fuck Diaz 3, it can wait
Thing is, if Conor fought Tony and lost he still has a huge trilogy fight to fall back on and still generate loads of views. I'm a fan of all these fighters that are being talked about and I think Tony is more than in line for the unified belt.
I'd rather see khabib fight conor. Tony will not be able to take conor down no chance in hell. He'll be forced to strike and conor is so far above tony in striking it won't even be a close fight. Khabib on the other hand is great at take downs. He has the best chance at beating conor.
Trevor Mulqueen yeah and he can't train differently for Conor's only weapon right? I mean Tony is such a one dimensional fighter and his training is as plain Jane as it gets. Conor wins.
Tony keep his chin high against Kevin Lee, if he faces Conor he will (should) not keep that chin high. Kevin does not have the stand-up skill Conor has, Conor won't knock you out with one punch, he will tag you, drop you, tag you and TKO you. Conor can win that fight but I would take Tony
Dougal Fraser much better response, I agree, Tony trained with much more emphasis on Kevin Lee's wrestling which is his strongest weapon, you never train the same for 2 different fighters. Let's just hope the fight is made and we have a hell of a main event.
Joe's argument is basically that the fights are the same, but they did not happen. He's making up a world in which something specific happened but it never happened.
The general consensus for Mcgregor vs Diaz 2 was a fairly clear 3-2 decision for Conor. I've seen controversial decisions before and that's not one of them. Emotional investment leads to hyperbole
Nobody knew who Nate Diaz was in the mainstream media before he fought Conor, then he fought Conor, shit talked, and won and then they knew. The same thing can happen with tony.
Kevin Snow I disagree since Nate is quite chill and cool guy who a lot of people would be drawn to. However, tony is a strange guy who a lot of MMA fans don’t even like outside of the octagon so let alone the mainstream
Kevin Snow The casual crowd doesn't know anyone except Conor and whoever Conor fights . Casual fans don't know GSP or Jones . You can argue those are boring . They don't even know Miocic who koes people stiff in the heavyweight division .
Kevin Snow Thank you! Why can't people grasp this. Imagine Tony and Conor at a presser, sheeet, EVERYONE will know who he is. Tony has too much charisma and wildness. Tony would be the new Nate Diaz
Schaub is ABSOLUTELY right here. You can't run back a 0-2 record. In Joe's world if Conor lost the third fight by a close decision they could turn around and run it back for a fourth fight just because it was close. Once a guy solidifies himself as the better fighter you have to let it rest. Like how many times were we gonna watch Rousey-Tate? Eventually it's just over.
I actually agree with Schuab. No way you could sell the public on a third Diaz fight if Conor is 0-2. What Joe ignores is that if Conor had lost that second fight to Diaz, he probably never would have gotten the opportunity to fight Alvarez, and a trilogy with Diaz would have been off the table. It would have to be something like Edgar vs. Penn 3, where they had to wait years for that to be a feasible fight. If you fight a guy for the third time, and you're 0-2 going into that fight, the public just interprets that as "Oh it took you two tries to beat this guy."
Proud of Shwab for sticking up for himself against Joe “Bully” Rogan. And idk why every time Conor/Tony is brought up, Joe skirts the conversation to Diaz, and puts asterisks on it: “For the purists”.
Its sad that these kinds of discussions focus on what is the biggest (money wise) as opposed to the fight that makes the most sense. Before Conor came in to the MMA world, NO ONE ever talked like this. I miss the old days.
Not only did we not get khabib and tony but we got robbed of what could’ve been prime Conor and prime tony with a little hate mixed in god that would’ve been the best fight ever.
people are missing what joe was trying to say. he was saying that even if connor lost the 2nd fight, a 3rd fight would still sell more than a connor vs tony. at least i think thats what he was trying to say which i dont agree with
Ok question I’ve been in prison for last 3 years have no idea what going on in the mma world besides what occasionally was put on regular tv what’s the best site to go to to get caught back up? Also who are some of the must see fights for last three years? Thanks guys.
The only way you could score the fight for Nate would be to give him the 2nd round where he got beat up for 4 straight minutes before finishing strong. It really isn't a hard fight to score
If Nate had won that second fight there wouldn't be that much interest in seeing a 3rd fight. Just look back to win Ronda beat Misha the second time. No one wanted to see a 3rd fight figuring it would end with another loss for Misha. The only time a 3rd fight draws interest is if it's to settle a match up where the fighters are 1-1. Some will buy it to watch just because of the fighters themselves but not anywhere near record numbers for either fighter
My god joe is unbearable when it comes to Conor. And none of them get to the point that, yes, Diaz is a bigger fight, but not that much bigger. There’s a small enough margin that Conor would look like a fuckin duck if he didn’t take he Ferguson fight. Also, anytime him fighting Ferguson is brought up, Joe quickly skirts around it. The guy is losing touch with what the common audience wants and thinks.
Joe Rogan is my guy but he is so wrong here. man oh man. McGregor vs Diaz 2 could not have went either way. I don't even see an argument for a draw led along Nate Diaz actually winning. I don't understand why Joe is talking about the judges' decision because it was a clear win for Conor, we did not need to see the judges' scorecards in order to tell that Conor won that bout but we did see them and the judges got it right. The bout was not nearly as close as everyone claims it to be. Dillashaw vs Cruz was a razor thin contest that was a lot closer than McGregor vs Diaz 2 and the judges happen to get that one right also. I do not register Joe Rogan's argument at all and I usually agree with Joe on almost everything but Brendan Schaub ate him alive here man.
If Conor fights Nate next, the UFC will lose a lot of fans. If belts and rankings don't matter, then nothing does. Conor has to fight either Tony, Woodley, or Holloway if he could make the weight.
I could honestly give a shit about a 3rd fight between Nate and Conor and I only consider myself an average UFC fan. It's about time Conor defends his belt against a legitimate contender in Tony.
Wow, I never agree with Brendan but in this case he's absolutely right. If Nate wins twice, Conor's team wouldn't go for a 3rd. They would have pushed a different guy. Conor is the draw, the opponent doesn't matter as much. Conor Nate would sell the most, but Conor and anybody else would be close enough...
Diaz vs McGregor both fights rank in the top 10 of most all-time PPV (with boxing included) Diaz vs McGregor II Was the most watched UFC PPV ever....EVER!! 1.65 MILLION.
I was hoping conor would beat nate, so we would get third fight. But when the second fight was over I didnt think I was that close. I thought it was clear that Diaz won the fight.
I'm pretty sure Conor's legacy was on the line in the second Nate fight. If he lost, then the third fight would likely not happen. You can't lose twice and expect to get a third fight.
The only controversy in McGregor-Diaz 2 was the judge who gave Diaz a 10-8 round resulting in a 47-47 score, but even then all 3 judges gave Conor 3 rounds... people who say Diaz won that fight need to wake the fuck up
They have to use Conor to create more superstars. He fights Tony, and then the UFC has another household name in Ferguson. Putting superstars against lesser known, but highly talented fighters is better for the future of the sports popularity, thats just my opinion!
I gotta agree with Brendan. To the “outside mma fans” of ufc, Conor vs Nate Diaz 3 would not hold as much value if Nate was up 2 and 0 on Conor. Diaz would be a bigger star and Conor’s fame wouldn’t be as high. To the general public it wouldn’t hold as much value. Money wise it’s in the Diaz 3 fight, BUT I want to see Tony vs Conor for Conor’s legacy and for him to defend his belt against the Interim belt holder. It wouldn’t make as much money as the Diaz vs McGregor fight 3 however... Conor should fight Tony next but if UFC wants the money fight it’s McGregor vs Diaz 3.
If McGregor lost twice to Diaz at 170, a third fight at 155 definitely ranks behind defending the 155 title against Ferguson. Not sure about the PPV numbers, but definitely in terms of securing his legacy.
Woah, Joe rogans trippN. Even DC said "if he wins 2 fights there is no more rivalry" In regards to jon Jones. Can't make a fight between two guys within 2 years if one of them won 2 out of 2 fights
Wow I thought everyone in the comments would agree with Joe .. I feel the same way the big money is with Nate and Conor.. I’m not a UFC fan but I watched both fights and I would love to see a trilogy!
The fights need to be made on the best fight not money .... hate the fact this is now the discussion. UFC was made based on making great fights not best money making ability ....
Sure conor/diaz would sell more than tony/conor, but by 10/ 20 %, not exponentially. Also conor definitely won the second fight, if anything the only controversy was how nate got 2 rounds. Also the rounds were very uneven. Conor was winning rounds by a much larger margin. Joe rogan , get ur shit together! quit hugging diaz nuts.
“Win or loss doesn’t matter.”
False, I agree with Schaub
4 years later mcgregor lost to khabib, mayweather, and poirier twice and is still the biggest draw in the sport
Wow. Joe REALLYYY exposed his inner Diaz fanboyism here. That was hard to watch. Any semblance of objectivity went right out the window as soon as Diaz was brought up...
DEViANT so fucking biased to Diaz he’s talking fucking non sense making fake arguments and doubling down on some bullshit
*GongsunXin* -- What's my point? If it wasn't crystal clear already, my point was that Joe is extremely biased when it comes to Diaz. Joe is usually able to remain neutral when talking about fighters but he lets his emotions get the better of him whenever Diaz is talked about... and ESPECIALLY if talking about Diaz vs McGregor.
It's not dickriding to say that diaz vd mcgregor is a big money fight, it's a fact
Holy Shit.
Schaub's not only right, but his argument was clear and on point.
What sort of world is this?
legit think rogan was just disagreeing on purpose lol.
he is dumb but at least he learns fast
Joe " what if, what if, what if". 3 minutes later "but were not dealing with an If world" WHAT!?!?!
* Conor vs my mum sells - Brendan Schaub 2017
He's not wrong XD
Conor v Nate was a close fight but the rounds were easy to score, 3-2 Conor
dude you could literally make a not out of the question statement saying conor beat nate 4-1
Same I gave Conor round 1,2,and 4
At least 1 2 and 4, the take down at the end of round 5 made that a close round but I wouldn't disagree with conor winning 1 2 4 and 5
What about the first fight though bub?
Ryan Dawson that's my point. The OP sounded like they were saying the fight wasn't really that close. Diaz v McGregor needs to happen one more time. And Joe is right. It'll sell the best anyways.
I agree with Schaub.
true mma fan wants to see the best most entertaining fight possible....f*ck money...a good fight will make money it will spread by word of mouth afterwards. 3rd diaz fight doesn't interest me, wouldn't waste my money or time watching that
GrowingDownUnder I agree. I want to see conor vs tony.
Joe is wrong here. If McGregor went 0-2 against Nate that would have been it, nobody would want to watch a third fight since we the casual fan doesn’t view judging as deeply as Joe.
Think Joe got a little aggressive with Schaub for disagreeing maybe due to sober no weed October.
Virtus1O8 I completely agree
Well someone needs to get aggressive w/ him. Schuab never thinks he's wrong
HapaHarley More like Rogan never thinks he's wrong tbh
Joe Rogan agrees with Brendon on Conor winning the second fight, but what he was trying to explain to Brendon is that the second fight was basically a draw and it was so close it could have gone either way. But make a third and final fight to see who's the better man. Boom. End of story.
Well your wrong cuz Conor lost his last 2 fights and yet his still the biggest draw in ufc his numbers are way bigger then anyone else literally almost every fight of Conor broke the top 10 in ufc ppv
I agree with Shaub. If Nate had one the second Conor fight, there's no way you could make a trilogy.
You know it's bad when Brendan is sounding more intelligent than rogan
Leisure Force I was just about to say the same thing
you know you're dumb as fuck if you really think that. omg
nate doesn't deserve title shot coming off a loss either...ferguson has interim title give him next shot. Or mcgregor can fight diaz after he gives up his belt 1st
L Jones this is an everyday occurrence unless you are not smart enough to see JR for the know it all douchebag he is
“Takes two to tango...” /Brendan eyes the room lmao
Joe is making no sense
it makes a lot of sense actually...he's saying nate won the 2nd fight against mcgregor which some people think cause it went to decision and that depends on how you scored it. Then rogan is saying in terms of money fight diaz is the best choice, mcgregor can fight diaz after he gives up his belt to ferguson...no biggie
This was annoying to watch, Joe is just plain wrong here
Joe Rogan lowkey hates McGregor
who doesn't? I been a part of the haters for ages all I see is a left hand that can trash talk...just relies on one punch
GrowingDownUnder “I been a part of the haters for ages” lmao why hate? Trash talking sells fights and that’s why he does it. You can even see him and Nate have a respect for each other. Its business and that’s why he’s making the most money.
nate v conor 2 seem close watching live but go back and rewatch it.. its a clear win for conor
There is no fucking debate, he fights ferguson or drops the belt. Simple.
Schaubs right on this one. Nate and Connor could fight at anytime, so they can wait a few years and still make that. Nate doesn't plan on fighting in the next few years if it isn't against Conor, so obviously the fight to make is Conor/Ferguson. Plus even if Conor loses the trilogy fight, it still makes sense time to do the fight with Nate. If he wins and unifies the titles however, you have a gigantic trilogy super fight for the undisputed 155 belt.
God damn Joe, please start tokin' again. Schaub is completely logical, so drop that whole "Hey, hold on.."-schtick...
Damn Joe, you need to start smoking pot again !
omg ur right
don't blame the pot geez, it's just a tropical annual herbaceous medicinal plant that has no negative side effects absolutely 0. There is no possible way it can cause you to act in a negative manner only positive...with that said yes he should smoke pot again and but that's just because why not smoke pot
Wow i Agree with Schaub for once?
Reptilian Monk rogan isn’t himself without his weed
Yeah Rogan is so wrong on that one
First time I agreed with Schaub over Joe. Don't know what the hell Joe is talking about. Hard to sell trilogy off 0-2
Both fights are justified. Diaz-Conor are 1-1 and Tony is the Interim champ. Both of them need to happen, who cares which one is first....It will be a great fight either way.
Yeah Joe’s losing touch with the common audience. Or he becomes all disillusioned when he starts talking about Conor. He’s spitting some ridiculous shit here. Bottom line, Conor vs. Diaz does better PPVs, but not that much better, and it’ll always be there. There’s NO reason to do the 3rd Diaz fight right now, other than Conor protecting himself/ufc protecting him. Schuab is right: Conor needs to be next for his career/legacy.
Plus, as Luke Thomas pointed out recently, stop giving a fuck about what does best PPVs. Idgaf. The next fight to watch is Conor/Tony. Conor can do his little Nate BS later.
I think they are underestimating a McGregor vs Ferguson draw. Is Diaz REALLY a household name? I didn't know who he was until I was a UFC fan. UFC fans are the ones attending and buying the PPV. Diaz is losing relevance while Tony is gaining momentum. If you don't want to see McGregor vs Ferguson, you probably wouldn't attend either event. Fuck Diaz 3, it can wait
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I’m with Brendan on this one. A 1-1 rivalry is a lot easier to sell a third fight on than a 2-0.
Joey should have been here
Vote: Tony vs McGregor
Tinman Bigfoot Tracker *Mcgregor vs Tony
Thing is, if Conor fought Tony and lost he still has a huge trilogy fight to fall back on and still generate loads of views. I'm a fan of all these fighters that are being talked about and I think Tony is more than in line for the unified belt.
Tinman Bigfoot Tracker I wanna see the fight but it won't be close. Conor round 1 tko.
Winning does matter, if nate won them both, there would not as much hype for trilogy.
I'd rather see khabib fight conor. Tony will not be able to take conor down no chance in hell. He'll be forced to strike and conor is so far above tony in striking it won't even be a close fight. Khabib on the other hand is great at take downs. He has the best chance at beating conor.
The counter on the bottom left was pretty funny.
Tony keeps that chin way too high. Conor will catch him
Trevor Mulqueen yeah and he can't train differently for Conor's only weapon right? I mean Tony is such a one dimensional fighter and his training is as plain Jane as it gets. Conor wins.
Juan Perez Tony will be slept
Tony keep his chin high against Kevin Lee, if he faces Conor he will (should) not keep that chin high. Kevin does not have the stand-up skill Conor has, Conor won't knock you out with one punch, he will tag you, drop you, tag you and TKO you. Conor can win that fight but I would take Tony
Dougal Fraser much better response, I agree, Tony trained with much more emphasis on Kevin Lee's wrestling which is his strongest weapon, you never train the same for 2 different fighters. Let's just hope the fight is made and we have a hell of a main event.
Trevor Mulqueen Sleep is good
Joe's argument is basically that the fights are the same, but they did not happen. He's making up a world in which something specific happened but it never happened.
I didn't know Tony responded with his own GTA tweet. It was pretty funny lol.
The general consensus for Mcgregor vs Diaz 2 was a fairly clear 3-2 decision for Conor. I've seen controversial decisions before and that's not one of them. Emotional investment leads to hyperbole
Brendan is the only one not being biased 💀
Nobody knew who Nate Diaz was in the mainstream media before he fought Conor, then he fought Conor, shit talked, and won and then they knew. The same thing can happen with tony.
Kevin Snow I disagree since Nate is quite chill and cool guy who a lot of people would be drawn to. However, tony is a strange guy who a lot of MMA fans don’t even like outside of the octagon so let alone the mainstream
Joseph Cooper only Conor fans don't like Tony because they know he's a threat that can't be eliminated.
Kevin Snow The casual crowd doesn't know anyone except Conor and whoever Conor fights . Casual fans don't know GSP or Jones . You can argue those are boring . They don't even know Miocic who koes people stiff in the heavyweight division .
Kevin Snow Thank you! Why can't people grasp this. Imagine Tony and Conor at a presser, sheeet, EVERYONE will know who he is. Tony has too much charisma and wildness. Tony would be the new Nate Diaz
Josh Thomsons shin knows Nate Diaz.
It fucking wasn't a close fight btw, 3 straight undeniable rounds to connor
won more rounds, landed less strikes...nate landed more = nate won
I agree with Brendan.
why isn't the full fight up?
schaub is right. if nate beat him twice in a row, people would not want to see a third one. I don't know why joe is disagreeing with it.
10:25 did eddie said all over the world and sketched a globe? hahahaha
Shout out to Eddie for that Duran/Leonard reference. Awesome tale between those two.
Come on Duran vs Leonard, really? really?
at 1:24 when brendan turned his head to the side I thought " Bro Theo was right, shaubs head does look like his face is on a thumb lol"
Brendan was 100% in the discussion.
Schaub is ABSOLUTELY right here. You can't run back a 0-2 record. In Joe's world if Conor lost the third fight by a close decision they could turn around and run it back for a fourth fight just because it was close. Once a guy solidifies himself as the better fighter you have to let it rest. Like how many times were we gonna watch Rousey-Tate? Eventually it's just over.
I actually agree with Schuab. No way you could sell the public on a third Diaz fight if Conor is 0-2. What Joe ignores is that if Conor had lost that second fight to Diaz, he probably never would have gotten the opportunity to fight Alvarez, and a trilogy with Diaz would have been off the table. It would have to be something like Edgar vs. Penn 3, where they had to wait years for that to be a feasible fight. If you fight a guy for the third time, and you're 0-2 going into that fight, the public just interprets that as "Oh it took you two tries to beat this guy."
6:54 JEZUS CHIRST *ROLLS EYES UP* LOL
The fight I wanna watch the most is McGregor vs Diaz 3 but Tony vs McGregor would be insane as well
Proud of Shwab for sticking up for himself against Joe “Bully” Rogan. And idk why every time Conor/Tony is brought up, Joe skirts the conversation to Diaz, and puts asterisks on it: “For the purists”.
Its sad that these kinds of discussions focus on what is the biggest (money wise) as opposed to the fight that makes the most sense. Before Conor came in to the MMA world, NO ONE ever talked like this. I miss the old days.
keepin each other honest
No way does a Conor Nate 3 sells if Nate is up 2-0. It just wouldn’t be as big of an appeal to fans.
Eddie is a good dude for standing up for his guy Tony
Not only did we not get khabib and tony but we got robbed of what could’ve been prime Conor and prime tony with a little hate mixed in god that would’ve been the best fight ever.
Conor won first 3 rounds against Diaz 2 easily, look at the damage he has done. Conor wasn't even cut by the end of the fight.
It should be Conor vs Tony. But the money fight is C v Nate.
people are missing what joe was trying to say. he was saying that even if connor lost the 2nd fight, a 3rd fight would still sell more than a connor vs tony. at least i think thats what he was trying to say
which i dont agree with
Best Post fight and weigh in , In MMA history between Diaz And Clover boy.
Ok question I’ve been in prison for last 3 years have no idea what going on in the mma world besides what occasionally was put on regular tv what’s the best site to go to to get caught back up? Also who are some of the must see fights for last three years? Thanks guys.
Sad that rankings don't mean shit for fights.
What episode number is this?? Wanna download the podcast
darad25 it's the fight companion that is still streaming as I post this.
Sober October is not doing Rogan any justice. He is not making sense...he needs to get back on it!
I think you can still sell Diaz/McGregor after Ferguson/MCGregor (regardless of the result) But you can’t do the reverse.
The only way you could score the fight for Nate would be to give him the 2nd round where he got beat up for 4 straight minutes before finishing strong. It really isn't a hard fight to score
what's the timer on the bottom left for?
Schaub completely on the money with that debate.
as a casual when it comes to ufc mma no one knows tony ferguson nate diaz is sort of known for his fights v mcgregor
What does the timer on the corner mean?
If Nate had won that second fight there wouldn't be that much interest in seeing a 3rd fight. Just look back to win Ronda beat Misha the second time. No one wanted to see a 3rd fight figuring it would end with another loss for Misha. The only time a 3rd fight draws interest is if it's to settle a match up where the fighters are 1-1. Some will buy it to watch just because of the fighters themselves but not anywhere near record numbers for either fighter
McG vs Nate would out sell McG vs Tony but McG vs Tony THEN a McG vs Nate would sell even better especially if McG works tony.
Conor vs nate should definitely happen but has to be after he fight tony otherwise theyd call him out to defend or vacate again n again.
My god joe is unbearable when it comes to Conor. And none of them get to the point that, yes, Diaz is a bigger fight, but not that much bigger. There’s a small enough margin that Conor would look like a fuckin duck if he didn’t take he Ferguson fight. Also, anytime him fighting Ferguson is brought up, Joe quickly skirts around it. The guy is losing touch with what the common audience wants and thinks.
Joe Rogan is my guy but he is so wrong here. man oh man. McGregor vs Diaz 2 could not have went either way. I don't even see an argument for a draw led along Nate Diaz actually winning. I don't understand why Joe is talking about the judges' decision because it was a clear win for Conor, we did not need to see the judges' scorecards in order to tell that Conor won that bout but we did see them and the judges got it right. The bout was not nearly as close as everyone claims it to be. Dillashaw vs Cruz was a razor thin contest that was a lot closer than McGregor vs Diaz 2 and the judges happen to get that one right also. I do not register Joe Rogan's argument at all and I usually agree with Joe on almost everything but Brendan Schaub ate him alive here man.
If Conor fights Nate next, the UFC will lose a lot of fans. If belts and rankings don't matter, then nothing does. Conor has to fight either Tony, Woodley, or Holloway if he could make the weight.
What happened to joes studio it looks diffrent
"Coner vs my mom sells" lol ☠
I could honestly give a shit about a 3rd fight between Nate and Conor and I only consider myself an average UFC fan. It's about time Conor defends his belt against a legitimate contender in Tony.
I agree with Joe. McNuggets rivalry will always be Diaz
The trilogy will be there. Conor needs to fight or vacate the belt. Then cash out on the trilogy with Diaz.
Shaub has been reading all the comments about him agreeing with everything that comes out of Rogan's mouth.
Records dont matter if a fighter sells.
Wow, I never agree with Brendan but in this case he's absolutely right. If Nate wins twice, Conor's team wouldn't go for a 3rd. They would have pushed a different guy. Conor is the draw, the opponent doesn't matter as much. Conor Nate would sell the most, but Conor and anybody else would be close enough...
i agree if he loses two fights its over regardless of the score..noone remembers score cards
Diaz vs McGregor both fights rank in the top 10 of most all-time PPV (with boxing included)
Diaz vs McGregor II Was the most watched UFC PPV ever....EVER!!
1.65 MILLION.
I was hoping conor would beat nate, so we would get third fight. But when the second fight was over I didnt think I was that close. I thought it was clear that Diaz won the fight.
I'm pretty sure Conor's legacy was on the line in the second Nate fight. If he lost, then the third fight would likely not happen. You can't lose twice and expect to get a third fight.
Joe Rogan is so fkn right, first I thought Brendan was right, but after thinking about it and listining to the entire thing I go with Rogan.
Conor vs Tony has to be next fight. No true mma fan would disagree
What people forget is that why is Nate a big name because he versed Conor same thing will happen with tony if it's a hard fight
The only controversy in McGregor-Diaz 2 was the judge who gave Diaz a 10-8 round resulting in a 47-47 score, but even then all 3 judges gave Conor 3 rounds... people who say Diaz won that fight need to wake the fuck up
They have to use Conor to create more superstars. He fights Tony, and then the UFC has another household name in Ferguson. Putting superstars against lesser known, but highly talented fighters is better for the future of the sports popularity, thats just my opinion!
I gotta agree with Brendan. To the “outside mma fans” of ufc, Conor vs Nate Diaz 3 would not hold as much value if Nate was up 2 and 0 on Conor. Diaz would be a bigger star and Conor’s fame wouldn’t be as high. To the general public it wouldn’t hold as much value. Money wise it’s in the Diaz 3 fight, BUT I want to see Tony vs Conor for Conor’s legacy and for him to defend his belt against the Interim belt holder. It wouldn’t make as much money as the Diaz vs McGregor fight 3 however... Conor should fight Tony next but if UFC wants the money fight it’s McGregor vs Diaz 3.
Joe is definitely right
I agree with big brown
If McGregor lost twice to Diaz at 170, a third fight at 155 definitely ranks behind defending the 155 title against Ferguson. Not sure about the PPV numbers, but definitely in terms of securing his legacy.
They can just argue who between them loves Conor more
Everybody is completely missing what joe is saying😂
god damn just realized i only watched track because of bryan callan
Woah, Joe rogans trippN. Even DC said "if he wins 2 fights there is no more rivalry" In regards to jon Jones. Can't make a fight between two guys within 2 years if one of them won 2 out of 2 fights
Wow I thought everyone in the comments would agree with Joe .. I feel the same way the big money is with Nate and Conor.. I’m not a UFC fan but I watched both fights and I would love to see a trilogy!
The fights need to be made on the best fight not money .... hate the fact this is now the discussion. UFC was made based on making great fights not best money making ability ....
Sure conor/diaz would sell more than tony/conor, but by 10/ 20 %, not exponentially.
Also conor definitely won the second fight, if anything the only controversy was how nate got 2 rounds. Also the rounds were very uneven. Conor was winning rounds by a much larger margin.
Joe rogan , get ur shit together!
quit hugging diaz nuts.
Diaz v McGregor would sell the best. Let's be real. Even casuals know them both. Casuals don't know Tony as much as them.
Tony is a dancin' machine.