Thank you so much for the situational break down! I started playing right before the Pyros fusion and have been trying to push Guild boss with Pyros and my only other faction DPs in Setrum, Nocturn, and Imani swapping with Laurel based on all the other content I have seen. I will have to bench the old man tomorrow and try pushing more. Thank you!
Thank you again, when do you plan on dropping your full guide? If its anything like this video I will be watching it a few times. The account specific references are great 😀 @@WorGuides
@@traviscook177 I'll need to work on it prob for a couple of days to make as as accesobl3 as possible as well as determine what all to include but I expect ot to take 1 week at most
If Marri's only job is 20% phys and magic vulnerability and that gets her into S, then Torrodor with -20% def could be higher than B? Especially as most of his faction are phys. Nissandei is also worth a mention in the specials - you can place her 8th and immediately despawn and the rest of the team keep her attack speed bonus.
Yes might be considerable but the aspd buff is to minor stleast later in the game where u need ridiculous margins of aspd to cut down interval by 0.1 and yes torodor could have been special category instead of Lord Bonus 👍
Some food for thought about Constance: - I use Constance/Dolores/Elowyn combo, keeping 100% Inspiration uptime. Doing just over 50K blood with no Zilitu or Infernal Lord. Still experimenting. - Constance in Glacier set is up there with Dolores, especially if you give her Invigoration. She's also a better healer, and less reliant on RNG (seeing Dolores' passive mess up the run is annoying). - Once I fully gear my Zilitu (or at least get a solid grip around rage regen strat), I think I can use Constance to run the comp while keeping Zilitu blocking the Guild Boss. Currently, you have to sacrifice bonus 20% damage from blocking the GB in order to make sure Laurel can reach her. With Constance there, you can place Laurel where Dolores would normally go, thus having Zili and Constance in adjacent tiles. Just some thoughts.
@@WorGuides I definitely plan on using Laya. Right now, I'm having a hard time getting my Zilitu to produce any real damage, even with Pyros. My Silas puts out 130K-130K, but my Zili is down in the 60's at best. I just beat VR Nightmare, and working on Faction Trials, after that may rebuild my Zilitu.
36:39 Skulf would like to have a word with you. If you don't have Dolores, Skulf can work fairly well as an Inspiration buffer. He grants inspiration to 3 units that are adjacent to him which can be 2 melee and a platform unit which still allows for some big damages if you're using Zilitu + Infernal Lord and is going to be more useful than not having him at all if that's your primary source of damages. Alistair can put up decent enough numbers that he should at least be mentioned since he was free and readily available also Imani should be on the list somewhere she's basically the same level as Anai at the moment, she's easier to get and easier to Awaken as well.
fantastic content my man. Slightly disagree with Komodo going into C tier, Keeping Komodo's ult up on GB is pretty easy. not to mention you can just keep fusing him early game to get that A3 boost. made it it kind of a no brainer for me to use him as my main bleed hero for a very long time. I think Komodo gets a bad wrap simply because he is a fusable. great content tho.
I’ll have to do more testing, but I disagree on pyros without zili, I use him with hex, nocturne and imani and broke 20k on both with that, yes it’s a lot less damage than with a zili, but if you mainly use his ult to burst down the shields it can make quite a difference
First i want to say your knowledge of this game is truly mindboggling. 2nd, I must be doing something wrong becuase my Praetus is top dps in my GB. Slightly above Hex. With Allistar and Thallen close behind. I need to rework my team badly. Lol
@@WorGuides no set but after this weekend I should be able to make an Infernal or Arcana. currently has: 13k atk 236 spd 96 crit 221 crt dmg doing 23m damage in GB. I use Dolores. no other buffs.
nice vid! Love the group rankings of silis+Verina and Zil+lord. Think marri is a bit overrated tho. id say she is useful when you are lacking a full team but once you do she doesnt provide enough. So S imo would be people that fit into TOP groups, so marri would be more of an A. Also consider Falcia as an S. Build her lots of attack speed and she can ult twice between shield and she outperforms everybody in A. Even outperforms Deimos if neither has lord bonus
Unless u have 3 Top Tier Ranged Units Marri always a Viable Pick IMO so u would need 3 out of Noc,Sil(+Viern),Hex,Pyr(+Zil),Twin maybe even A1 too(+Zil),Setram
Doesn't luneria stack her own form of dmG increase with her darkmoon. Which Doesn't state only her damage is increased just damage in general which should stack on m and p penetration.
if you have a king harz and elldr you will use elldr more would love one of them even isolde tho i dont use vortex in GB at the start i did now i use hollow and laya combo
he would rank at b or a maybe s but hard to check cuz his dmg istn displayed properly i doubt huge numbers though but from arbiters for sure one of if not the likeliest to do dmg
Wor guide i use constance alot for GB, trust that there is much higher potential than dolores, less RNG and you can also do back to back constance ult with a certain strat. Also synergize well with laya.
I played around with her a lot and yes u can get more consistency and if u put in a Laya in certain cases u can get Back to back but Constance has a shorter Ult "worse" range and if Dolores Rng works it just works in Teams where I can reach say 65k with Dol it only ends up Being 60 for Const but I'll make a Vid about/ some more Testing 👍
@@WorGuides looking forward to it! I think with the new defender artifact can push her buffs even more compared to keen wisdom. Place constance on the tile beside where you would place dolores then on that dolores tile can be used for the rotational units, but this team limited to 2 to tile dps and more focus on ground dps unit. Wouldnt fit the meta teams yet, because most of the meta dps units are tile units. Hopefully it changes in the future.
I don´t know, I have Silas + Vierna + Epic piercing lord and my Silas just doesn´t perform. Hex does the most amount of damage followed by Deimos (I use Torodor for lord bonus) and even Setram without a lord does better damage than Silas (I tried switching gears and positions). In the end I even used Wrath instead of Silas to have 35% speed bonus (+ Volka) and earned more blood than with Silas. I am not sure, what I am doing wrong...
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totally agree except for Silas even without Vierna it's still a S for me a crusher , he is less situational than other champ that you have put in S and where you need other heroes to make them work, Silas just does damage
Kind of sad after watching this, I just got and invested in Solcadens because I heard he was SSS for GB but you’re saying if I have Zila that he is not useable and would use the epic lord instead? That can’t be…. I would think Solcadens with his lord bonus and damage contribution would still out shine the epic lord with Zila? Anyways would be great to see a video of all three of them A0 / A0 / A5 (Epic of course).
Enjoyed the video! Also wanted to clarify, is it still worth to move Hex out of my infernal team(Twinfiend A0) if I'm not running a piercer team? So he would be teamless instead in my case.
@@WorGuides One more question, you mentioned later in the video that infernal lord ults only buff the damage of Zilitu. My infernal team only has Twinfiend, Setram, Hex, Dolores. Is it not worth deploying him for guild boss then? Thanks for the quick reply by the way.
I have Ardea in my team for no real reason besides im not getting 50k, so it doesn’t matter. But she still does about 40m with no lord. Maybe ill try an Elddr team some day just for fun.
Atm my most dmg dealer is lugaru at awakening 1. I have elowyn as a healer to cast the elf when I need to at the perfect time. Doing only 44k blood on nm4 atm until more awakens happen for my team Lugaru dealing almost 100mil. Second is zilithu at 66-68 and I am using twinfiend as a lord for her (ghan for lugaru)
@WorGuides shrug. I have her build well. Not doing the regen strat. Other infernal on my team is setram and Dolores. My chaos team is just valeriya, lugaru and gharn as the lord. Silas just there for dmg
great list! Wrath def S Tier in my opinion, i think if we see the statistik of how often hes used hes probably one of the most used hero from every difficulty lvl 🙂
i disagree with laya i keep her on the field the more you pop her ult for her passive gives a buff then her other passive when allies pop there ults off is restoring there health which has a 150 to 200% multiplier and not to mention her ult then having hollow helps with that i think a laya hollow and dolores combo is great for me yes i dont have the best roster need a hex zilitu to go to the next level i even have a elowyn and still prefer the laya and hollow combo
Honestly that is a very viable approach u just want to remove her if we are actually talking high 40 more like 50k+ prob and another dps before that might gelp more but that is very account specific
Any chance you can do Solcadens build and guide for Guild Boss without Zilitu as i pulled him and seems strong. My issue is no zilitu and my infernal are dolores, setram, nocturne, orim,pyros imani mainly. Not sure if its possible with no zilitu or Hex.
low-mid level player question: at what point does Dolores become good? (Currently I have her at five star and promotion five. Is that good enough to run her yet? Does she need special equipment?)
Arrogance is low to mid A-tier at best when he's only A0. I've done a lot of testing with him in place of various GB heroes and he does worse than Nocturne who is the lowest DPS on my GB team.
On the note of ajax if u just comapre magic res down vs p/m vulnerability atkeast in gb vulnerability comes out on top because magic res isnt high enough and its only for magic dmg though if u already have someone like a1 twin obviously vulnerability is only going to apply once
Isn't Pyros really good as a debuff unit, he's got a really nice uptime on his vuln having 5 seconds of bonus vuln after the end of the ult.. I have both TF and Pyros and I'm using TF as a lord and Pyros as a debuffer.. I have a soul stone for TF but I'm saving it for now, I'll see if I deserve to use it, like when I reach 45k blood or something like that, then it could be the push I need, right now I feel like using it would be vanity and impatience
@@WorGuides If you are using a rage regen team, it would be more useful to use a dps instead of marri. because everyone can use a lot of ultimate. this is my opinion maybe you'r right.
i completely agree that marri is S, I used her for months, she was the only reason why i was able to do 20k blood (per run) on both N-IV and N-III bosses daily
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You can really tell you put alot of work into this great content man.
Thank you so much for the situational break down! I started playing right before the Pyros fusion and have been trying to push Guild boss with Pyros and my only other faction DPs in Setrum, Nocturn, and Imani swapping with Laurel based on all the other content I have seen. I will have to bench the old man tomorrow and try pushing more. Thank you!
You got this!
Thank you again, when do you plan on dropping your full guide? If its anything like this video I will be watching it a few times. The account specific references are great 😀 @@WorGuides
@@traviscook177 I'll need to work on it prob for a couple of days to make as as accesobl3 as possible as well as determine what all to include but I expect ot to take 1 week at most
If Marri's only job is 20% phys and magic vulnerability and that gets her into S, then Torrodor with -20% def could be higher than B? Especially as most of his faction are phys.
Nissandei is also worth a mention in the specials - you can place her 8th and immediately despawn and the rest of the team keep her attack speed bonus.
Yes might be considerable but the aspd buff is to minor stleast later in the game where u need ridiculous margins of aspd to cut down interval by 0.1 and yes torodor could have been special category instead of Lord Bonus 👍
Bro i Think that everyone heard that phrase about vierna 😂😂😂 that was perfect 😂😂😂😂❤❤❤
just wanted to add, deimos can go even higher, my personal record (NOT using FA) on deimos is 113m... using wrath as lead
Some food for thought about Constance:
- I use Constance/Dolores/Elowyn combo, keeping 100% Inspiration uptime. Doing just over 50K blood with no Zilitu or Infernal Lord. Still experimenting.
- Constance in Glacier set is up there with Dolores, especially if you give her Invigoration. She's also a better healer, and less reliant on RNG (seeing Dolores' passive mess up the run is annoying).
- Once I fully gear my Zilitu (or at least get a solid grip around rage regen strat), I think I can use Constance to run the comp while keeping Zilitu blocking the Guild Boss. Currently, you have to sacrifice bonus 20% damage from blocking the GB in order to make sure Laurel can reach her. With Constance there, you can place Laurel where Dolores would normally go, thus having Zili and Constance in adjacent tiles.
Just some thoughts.
i played around with that on her release and also saw some results the finishing touch would be a laya prob
@@WorGuides I definitely plan on using Laya. Right now, I'm having a hard time getting my Zilitu to produce any real damage, even with Pyros. My Silas puts out 130K-130K, but my Zili is down in the 60's at best. I just beat VR Nightmare, and working on Faction Trials, after that may rebuild my Zilitu.
36:39 Skulf would like to have a word with you. If you don't have Dolores, Skulf can work fairly well as an Inspiration buffer. He grants inspiration to 3 units that are adjacent to him which can be 2 melee and a platform unit which still allows for some big damages if you're using Zilitu + Infernal Lord and is going to be more useful than not having him at all if that's your primary source of damages.
Alistair can put up decent enough numbers that he should at least be mentioned since he was free and readily available also Imani should be on the list somewhere she's basically the same level as Anai at the moment, she's easier to get and easier to Awaken as well.
ye didnt mention them thats my Bad (imani/alistair) and nunea prob next best inspi buffer
fantastic content my man. Slightly disagree with Komodo going into C tier, Keeping Komodo's ult up on GB is pretty easy. not to mention you can just keep fusing him early game to get that A3 boost. made it it kind of a no brainer for me to use him as my main bleed hero for a very long time. I think Komodo gets a bad wrap simply because he is a fusable. great content tho.
Ye I can see that its also very account dependend how much of an Impact a certain unit has on your acc👍
I’ll have to do more testing, but I disagree on pyros without zili, I use him with hex, nocturne and imani and broke 20k on both with that, yes it’s a lot less damage than with a zili, but if you mainly use his ult to burst down the shields it can make quite a difference
Fell free to do so 👍
Aeon and marri both applies the 20% dmg increase with basic attacks
Marri is just more consistent /accesible
First i want to say your knowledge of this game is truly mindboggling.
2nd, I must be doing something wrong becuase my Praetus is top dps in my GB. Slightly above Hex. With Allistar and Thallen close behind.
I need to rework my team badly. Lol
what is your hex doing dmg wise and ifernal or piercer lord for him?
and if infernal on the field?
@@WorGuides no set but after this weekend I should be able to make an Infernal or Arcana.
currently has:
13k atk
236 spd
96 crit
221 crt dmg
doing 23m damage in GB.
I use Dolores. no other buffs.
Morene as a rare is great for guild boss if you don't have Torodor, Ares, or Estrid for DEF down. She keeps the debuff constant on the guild boss
True 😅👍
nice vid! Love the group rankings of silis+Verina and Zil+lord. Think marri is a bit overrated tho. id say she is useful when you are lacking a full team but once you do she doesnt provide enough. So S imo would be people that fit into TOP groups, so marri would be more of an A.
Also consider Falcia as an S. Build her lots of attack speed and she can ult twice between shield and she outperforms everybody in A. Even outperforms Deimos if neither has lord bonus
Unless u have 3 Top Tier Ranged Units Marri always a Viable Pick IMO so u would need 3 out of Noc,Sil(+Viern),Hex,Pyr(+Zil),Twin maybe even A1 too(+Zil),Setram
Awesome content, really helped me adjust my team for GB :) ...and I sold my Anai hehe
Great Video, but you should really give Alistair a try. His does more damage than your B Tier heros easily.
Doesn't luneria stack her own form of dmG increase with her darkmoon. Which Doesn't state only her damage is increased just damage in general which should stack on m and p penetration.
Even though it sound nice the outcome really isn't it sadly
if you have a king harz and elldr you will use elldr more would love one of them even isolde tho i dont use vortex in GB at the start i did now i use hollow and laya combo
What about Alistair ? Wouldn't he be the most potential from the arbiter faction ?
he would rank at b or a maybe s but hard to check cuz his dmg istn displayed properly i doubt huge numbers though but from arbiters for sure one of if not the likeliest to do dmg
Wor guide i use constance alot for GB, trust that there is much higher potential than dolores, less RNG and you can also do back to back constance ult with a certain strat. Also synergize well with laya.
I played around with her a lot and yes u can get more consistency and if u put in a Laya in certain cases u can get Back to back but Constance has a shorter Ult "worse" range and if Dolores Rng works it just works in Teams where I can reach say 65k with Dol it only ends up Being 60 for Const but I'll make a Vid about/ some more Testing 👍
@@WorGuides looking forward to it! I think with the new defender artifact can push her buffs even more compared to keen wisdom. Place constance on the tile beside where you would place dolores then on that dolores tile can be used for the rotational units, but this team limited to 2 to tile dps and more focus on ground dps unit. Wouldnt fit the meta teams yet, because most of the meta dps units are tile units. Hopefully it changes in the future.
I don´t know, I have Silas + Vierna + Epic piercing lord and my Silas just doesn´t perform. Hex does the most amount of damage followed by Deimos (I use Torodor for lord bonus) and even Setram without a lord does better damage than Silas (I tried switching gears and positions). In the end I even used Wrath instead of Silas to have 35% speed bonus (+ Volka) and earned more blood than with Silas. I am not sure, what I am doing wrong...
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totally agree except for Silas even without Vierna it's still a S for me a crusher , he is less situational than other champ that you have put in S and where you need other heroes to make them work, Silas just does damage
W video as always. Keep up the good work
Kind of sad after watching this, I just got and invested in Solcadens because I heard he was SSS for GB but you’re saying if I have Zila that he is not useable and would use the epic lord instead? That can’t be…. I would think Solcadens with his lord bonus and damage contribution would still out shine the epic lord with Zila? Anyways would be great to see a video of all three of them A0 / A0 / A5 (Epic of course).
Not necessarily he just doesn't make zili shine as much he can prob beat pyros
god tier content as always here
Enjoyed the video! Also wanted to clarify, is it still worth to move Hex out of my infernal team(Twinfiend A0) if I'm not running a piercer team? So he would be teamless instead in my case.
Then most likely not especially so with a Twinfiend
@@WorGuides One more question, you mentioned later in the video that infernal lord ults only buff the damage of Zilitu. My infernal team only has Twinfiend, Setram, Hex, Dolores. Is it not worth deploying him for guild boss then? Thanks for the quick reply by the way.
@@Ischemic404 yes not worth to deploy sadly
I have Ardea in my team for no real reason besides im not getting 50k, so it doesn’t matter. But she still does about 40m with no lord. Maybe ill try an Elddr team some day just for fun.
nice
Love it when some epics are SSS Tier which allows F2P player to achieve high damage in GB
Yep same😁👍
Atm my most dmg dealer is lugaru at awakening 1. I have elowyn as a healer to cast the elf when I need to at the perfect time.
Doing only 44k blood on nm4 atm until more awakens happen for my team
Lugaru dealing almost 100mil. Second is zilithu at 66-68 and I am using twinfiend as a lord for her (ghan for lugaru)
your zilitu should do 100 mil min if twin
@WorGuides shrug. I have her build well. Not doing the regen strat. Other infernal on my team is setram and Dolores. My chaos team is just valeriya, lugaru and gharn as the lord. Silas just there for dmg
@@Kamyen316 I believe 100 mil is possible with zip no laurel if u can get tein to ult 2x per zil ult
Imagine using Who-garu 😛
great list! Wrath def S Tier in my opinion, i think if we see the statistik of how often hes used hes probably one of the most used hero from every difficulty lvl 🙂
1000%
No. Beginning yes, later simple no.
@@EasYMoON1991 ye the 1000% just in regards to usage statistics 😅
@@EasYMoON1991 Beginning my ass, he goes pretty far into late game as well.
if u say so, must be right.@@robertstan298
What do you think of Vargus?
Not useful basically a bad alaura and doesn't even really perform on 3-19
Thanks dude!
i disagree with laya i keep her on the field the more you pop her ult for her passive gives a buff then her other passive when allies pop there ults off is restoring there health which has a 150 to 200% multiplier and not to mention her ult then having hollow helps with that i think a laya hollow and dolores combo is great for me yes i dont have the best roster need a hex zilitu to go to the next level i even have a elowyn and still prefer the laya and hollow combo
Honestly that is a very viable approach u just want to remove her if we are actually talking high 40 more like 50k+ prob and another dps before that might gelp more but that is very account specific
@@WorGuides ya once i start getting ones like zilitu hex and maybe a twinfiend i will change it up and maybe when that guild boss testing thing comes
Pelegios talent could help his dmg but the problem is that his bugged againdt guild boss
Any chance you can do Solcadens build and guide for Guild Boss without Zilitu as i pulled him and seems strong. My issue is no zilitu and my infernal are dolores, setram, nocturne, orim,pyros imani mainly. Not sure if its possible with no zilitu or Hex.
I'll see what I can do 👍
@@WorGuides appreciate it
low-mid level player question: at what point does Dolores become good? (Currently I have her at five star and promotion five. Is that good enough to run her yet? Does she need special equipment?)
she needs to be 6 star 6 prom and atleast 3x mythic 60% attack gear and pref atk substat and a Calamity set
Thanks! That will take me some time…
u will seee a major increase in dmg so smth to look forward too for sure
@@matthijsclaessen8152
By the way,@@WorGuides , even my wimpy Dolores helps in GB. (With my wimpy team... in NM-ii.)
what about lust bro? is she S or SSS tier?
S unless a5 prob
You might like to retest Konodo. He might surprise you.
Arrogance is low to mid A-tier at best when he's only A0. I've done a lot of testing with him in place of various GB heroes and he does worse than Nocturne who is the lowest DPS on my GB team.
Ye the Part that makes him viable is A0 maxed out Skils and in Rnage of Laurel buff 😅
Why no Alistair???
Forgot bout him 😂😅
@@WorGuides i got to this video just for him 😂 tell me he would be please 🙏🏽
he is alright for gb so basically b or maaaaaaaaaaybe a@@jeffer232252
Solcodans lord whay he in S? Deymos max A
Because u play Solcadens on the Field. Deimos Accessibility+Dmg Potential=S
@@WorGuides twinfield play on fied too...deimos dmg not very big
By marri's standard situationally ajax and aeon rank higher than marri
Why would aeon be higher then marri?
On the note of ajax if u just comapre magic res down vs p/m vulnerability atkeast in gb vulnerability comes out on top because magic res isnt high enough and its only for magic dmg though if u already have someone like a1 twin obviously vulnerability is only going to apply once
I sadly have a simp Silas😞
I was like u for 5 1/2 months let's hope yours finds a Gf
Isn't Pyros really good as a debuff unit, he's got a really nice uptime on his vuln having 5 seconds of bonus vuln after the end of the ult..
I have both TF and Pyros and I'm using TF as a lord and Pyros as a debuffer..
I have a soul stone for TF but I'm saving it for now, I'll see if I deserve to use it, like when I reach 45k blood or something like that, then it could be the push I need, right now I feel like using it would be vanity and impatience
I guess you could, but Marri can have full uptime on hers as well? And I don't think Pyros individual damage can make up the difference.
ye marri just better uptime
@@Binzob full uptime? does she really?
@@WorGuides how much better? cuz Pyros you can control, so you can have the vuln at critical moments
@@renarddubois940 Yeah just need enough attack speed on her.
I think praetus should be on top his dsmage surpass my valeriys and nocturn
Haven't yet had the chance nor seen a Very well Geared Praetus approach in GB so kust went with the few things I have seen
@@WorGuides you can see him on immortal codex his doing some damage but i think his lord skill is not counted
Alistair god of gb lmao
😂
got 2 accs and still no dolores xD
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Mari doesnt deserve to be S tier. use Laurel instead of her. i think everyone has laurel so there is no need in any case.
u can use both
and my komodo hitting 60k to nm4. you should try with SA gear set
@@WorGuides If you are using a rage regen team, it would be more useful to use a dps instead of marri. because everyone can use a lot of ultimate. this is my opinion maybe you'r right.
i completely agree that marri is S, I used her for months, she was the only reason why i was able to do 20k blood (per run) on both N-IV and N-III bosses daily
Signs that someone should not offer advice ^^