I'm 55, was placed in a facility at 10 and sustained many abuses. At 12 was put into foster care, beaten and beaten up. Was abused at school. The things I endured would break most people. I've been to the government, no help as well as the police, no help and I've not done these kinda things...... There comes a point where you have to take responsibility for your actions (as well the community where they were raised) and break the cycle. I am, as my father Cree. It doesn't matter tho, all types of people suffer trauma. You need to seek help.........that's between you and your maker, it can be a tough road to walk but you have to forge ahead.
Generational mental health issues are a problem, and just because you were strong enough to handle it doesn’t mean all are. I commend you for coming out on top of your circumstances but even you said the things you endured WOULD break most people. Not to justify but context is key to getting a full understanding
I applaud your effort in healing yourself and as a fellow Canadian, I would like to apologize for how you were treated. I hope you find peace in your remaining years on earth.
thank god we have the axis forces who fought to save the medicine wheel ... had it not been for them.. we would all be dead under ju wishy money washy laws
Im 30. I outlived my father in 2014 and he died a violent death. A lot of my elders abuse drugs and alcohol and just wait for the young ones to fall into the same vices, so they'll return to the land and repeat the cycle and take care of them. There was a lot of physical abuse in my fathers life growing up as well. Before he died he told me about his struggle of himself growing up and not becoming the same thing as his father. He still fell to his vices too eventually. But he taught me that we are not doomed to repeat this cycle if we work hard at it. Im currently in the city, getting therapy, and getting a grip on being a member of society. Id be a fool to say that it was a overnight thing. Or that what I found would work for someone else... But you are 100% correct. The people I have seen that have worked to break cycles of generational trauma gives me hope for the future. I was blessed to have my upbringing, but I have to work to make the next generation even better off than I have it. You guys are tough SOBs. We appreciate it!
y'all are real thick to not understand what intergenerational trauma is. you're really so close! as fuzzmosis said, 'what a disgrace [...] to try and rationalize this...' a synonym of rationalize is the word "understand", as in explaining. violence can be understood and linked to various factors in a society, in a culture, in a person. it ain't rocket science, but it's science. move out of the dark ages, please.
I grew up in an abusive household. I didn't like it, so I chose to end the cycle. Absolutely NO EXCUSE for what he did and did before that. Global News you are disgusting!!
You one plays the perpetual victim, they become defeatists. Regardless of that smokescreen: this individual knew right from wrong at the time of hid acts. Thus, will serve decades in prison. Past victimization nonsense is not a legal defence or legal excuse. Global News sound like apologists.
Only in Canada can you have 59 criminal convictions and not be in jail, simply because of your cultural background. Imagine having to be the one to tell those heartbroken family members that equality killed their loved ones. Gladue reports need to be heavily reconsidered, and habitual criminals need to be kept away from law abiding society.
My dad's truck got stolen from our driveway. He has a lot of work tools and such in there. $30,000 truck with $10,000 in tools. Their landlord turned them in. He was a pastor that lent them the place when they were homeless, and caught them painting a truck. So they got arrested, and 2AM that night we get a call. Police won't let us recover the stolen truck or tools. Luckily the next day the pastor/landlord got in touch and invited us down. We got there just in time to find them coming up the (narrow) driveway... the thieves. They got paroled and came back in a van to load up the tools. We had to block off the road and shake them down for the tools. In the end, they got zero custodial sentencing, too. No time behind bars except waiting for bail. Not bad for almost making off with $40,000.
Intergenerational trauma is a really desperate form of excuse making. You are responsible for your choices in this life. No one else. This guy is not a victim. He's a piece of garbage.
@@Canuckhardtail Do something about the system? The federal government just legislated lighter sentences on violent criminals while pursuing law abiding gun owners. Here we have the result.
This guy is a cold blooded killer! Let's stop trying to find a reason to defend him or point to an excuse! All levels of government failed the victims and the families! This guy is a monster and by all accounts should still be in prison!
yes, they definitely need a punishment. However, it is better to check the root cause of this and address it in order to avoid such incidents in the future.
@@techiuom621 many killers have no root cause. Some people are hard wired evil. Looking for a root cause means find someone else to blame. Every person is ultimately responsible for themselves.
@@techiuom621 Police incompetence is a major root cause of this, because despite his violent history, the police just let him go and roam the streets. Hey, look, we found a root cause, and it still didn't do anything.
this is perfect. Those scumbags are to be pittied cus "muh trauma." Their actions have left at minimum 15 traumatised families who can now go out and commit heinous acts according to "muh trauma"
If intergenerational trauma was at the root of all these murders then there would not be anyone left alive on this earth, it's shocking to hear anyone claim this. Have they just entirely given up on teaching history in schools?!!
I was thinking the same thing. My grandparents in the UK, were victims of WW1 and WW2. Their many losses of loved one's and home caused grief that was felt in their children and grandchildren, just as in millions of other families Yes, it's intergenerational trauma, it's global and it continues. The Ukranian people are and will suffer trauma, which will pass down to future generations. It's not new. Perhaps someone will tell me it's different, if so, will hopefully tell me how.
There was an arrest warrant for him since May, they should have reported him to the police. I’m sure the community knew all about their violence but were scared to report him as he would only be released in a few months anyway, looking for revenge. Our justice system is at fault, if they did their jobs properly he would still be in jail.
Somebody didn’t do their job, if they knew he was potentially dangerous, and had a warrant for his arrest already, then why didn’t they arrest him months ago? Why did they wait?
i grew up in the reserve. only gang members types associate with each other. The types of people who would have been in contact with a person like this would have been people like him. Those types wouldnt call the cops. quit expecting the common native person to police their own like we are one large monolith. These people are scary and violent and if they caught wind of you calling the cops you can pretty much expect to be seriously injured or killed. Probably like alot of the victims were.
This stabbing rampage was a symptom of a broken justice system, not intergenerational trauma. The perpetrators of this terrible crime both had many prior criminal convictions, most of them being violent in nature, and yet somehow were still able to get parole. Had these criminals been locked up instead of let go, perhaps 10 people wouldn't be dead and 18 others wouldn't be harmed.
Excuses Excuses ... So sick of the MSM making excuses for Criminals . Career Criminals even . How much crime and how many convictions do you have to have before you prove yourself unfit to live in society ? 100 convictions? Beyond disgusting . Should still be in prison ffs .
It’s on purpose. There is a new “status quo” that’s been established in our media. I believe it started when bell media bought out CTV, and started 24hr news to scare people constantly. Something changed.
In Canada, the truth is that there is no number. A lot of criminals terrorizing the streets do literally have hundreds of convictions. This is a rabbit hole Canadians should look into. The average Canadian would be shocked if they realized what was actually going on.
People from all backgrounds, ethnic groups and walks of life have experienced horrors. It is no excuse. Many of my family died in horrific circumstances during and before WWII. Not once has anyone in my family suggested our collective errors or misdeeds were due to "intergenerational trauma". This is just an attempt to excuse horrendous behaviour. This man is a murderer. He has a long history of violence. Was it really so hard to guess where he would have been hiding since he became "unlawfully at large" in May? If the community sheltered him when they knew he was wanted, they share in responsibility for this tragedy. I am tired of hearing excuses for crimes (particularly violent ones). Ask any psychologist about the concept of blaming current behaviours on past tragedies (especially tragedies that occurred to people of previous generations). As a society, we are simply perpetuating the cycle of victimhood by suggesting that 'trauma' can be inherited. It can not. What happens to you (or your grandparents) is often beyond your control, and equally often, completely unfair. How you respond to these hardships IS A CHOICE. Break the cycle.
👏 👏 👏 But how dare you make perfect sense. The woke of the left, the politically correct and the indigs certainly won't see the truthful facts. And you can bet trudeau will be right there eating up these excuses too, agreeing that this is everyone else's fault.
A person's upbringing can indeed cause them to become violent however, the system also failed these people and he is way above the age of reason, knowing right from wrong. This man had 54 (edit: 59) previous criminal convictions - all violent. WHY in Moses knuckles was he given parole? Someone with this kind of history will not rehabilitate! RIP to the 10 victims.
I hope the victims sue the government for negligence and get paid. Whichever branch of government is responsible for the decision to let him out should have to pay out of their budget.
Murder is murder! It doesn’t matter what has happened to you in your life or past. Looking to shift the blame on intergenerational trauma is a scapegoat. Those two brothers knew what they were doing! 10 innocent souls are dead! 18 innocent people are permanently injured or scared! Justification of their actions doesn’t bring back the dead of those family members or lessens the pain of those who lost loved ones or the injuries of the victims that will affect them for the rest of their lives!
@@MOI-qq8zc It’s not an explanation, it’s part of many reasons. At the end of the day, only a human can pull the trigger to kill another human, not your problems. The authorities haven’t even spoke to this suspect yet and you’re drawing conclusions. You see what you want to see and you hear what you want to hear. This is what’s getting people killed. Apparently he’s had 59 convictions. How many would it take before we understand that he’s simply a menace to society?
I wondered how long it would take to blame something else. How about taking responsibility for their own actions. This whining and snivelling has to stop.
That’s weird. So many hundreds of thousands of First Nations are victims of inter generational grief and sorrow, but none of them have gone on a killing spree. At some point people need to take accountability and responsibility for their own actions, regardless of their upbringing, sorrows, conflicts, struggles, etc.
I agree with you but keep in mind that different people have different experiences and react differently to to different types of trauma. Some people never heal.
@@ThePleasantDevourer yes.. as first nation blood.. only he who is with out Sino blood can throw the First stone after all grasshoppers have a summer's end... nature will sort you in sects
The guy who cut off a kids head on a Greyhound bus lives in a cozy house in the same neighborhood as the mother of his victim... This is Canada, joke justice
@@dougler500 Vince Li should be kept in a psychological facility the rest of his life. Because the same condition that created his crime could potentially repeat itself, when he forgot to take his medication.
That guy was schizophrenic. There is a distinction. Schizophrenia is a totally different beast. Sufferers don't even know what reality is, their brain is broken, not their moral code.
@@dougler500 If that was my kid, Will would have disappeared a long time ago. And the people that let him out, too. People are just too weak in our society and not prepared to do what needs to be done.
This government is nicer to criminals then normal citizens, no justice, treats us like we are evil and they are good.. illegal to defend ourselves, this and that. It’s wrong. Everything’s backwards
Incredible. It's almost as if Global news came up with this video's title by giving an AI the prompt "The worst take on the Saskatchewan stabbing rampage"
What do you think drives people to commit crimes If you provide a person with all the things he needs to be healthy, safe and happy, the likelihood of said person committing crime (excusing any mental issues that were there from birth) drops to nearly zero The less safe, healthy, and happy a person is, the more likely they are to commit crime If you had the same life this murderer had you very much could have ended up just like him
Really? I know people that have lived through horrible things and have never thought about this level of violence. How ugly to continue this narrative. Victim or victor...quit the residential school narrative...does anyone even know if any of his family attended?
Oh pleAsssee plenty of races have dealt with slavery, genocide and yet anytime an indigenous person does anything bad it’s always blamed on this. The battle your dealing with is lack of accountability.
Ah…It didn’t take long for global to start using this. How many here watching this, have had a HORRIBLE, ABUSIVE, and TRAUMATIC childhood, would NEVER hurt someone else, let alone murder. Why does this “race” card always have to be played, like it’s someone else fault people are the way they are? My siblings and I, had a very rough and horrible childhood. None of us ever hurt anyone, or became criminals.
@@XoXo475 Many turn it into helping bring peace to others. This sounds like the local bully gone postal happens in all cultures. Those two white kids playing rambo that were man hunted from BC too had backgrounds we did not hear as an adding factor.
yea its definetly not the fault of the killer wielding the knife who is currently still on the run with little to no remorse after murdering his little brother and 10 others while wounding many more, ffs...
@@prayunceasingly2029 yea i mean i dont expect a guy with 30 + charges against him prior to these events to be all there anyways, but no hes totally safe to be out according to parole board....
It’s sickening to hear excuses being made for this heinous act. There are countless that have less and been through more that wouldn’t think to do something like this and this garbage is insulting to them.
wrong.. the ju wish have based their whole fooking history on that semi wit logic first nations are elders with unaddressed war crimes or cancellations.. hun
Please do some research to learn about the plight of natives in Canada and how they have been treated. Once you truly understand what they have gone through, maybe then you can show some empathy towards them. In no way do I condone the behaviour of these two individuals, nor would I ever condone the killing of anyone. We need to be able to understand how they got to this point and how do we prevent a tragedy like this from ever happening again.
Have u ever been pimped by ur own MOTHER and hospitalized multiple times by ur own DAD? BOTH of which were residential school survivors BECAUSE I HAVE, YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOUR EVEN SPEAKING ABOUT SO SHUT UP AND SIT DOWN FFS
This is a joke it’s easy to point fingers at things and say “intergenerational trama” everyone is responsible for they’re own outcome and actions in life…. If there’s nothing but drugs and crime on the reserve it’s they’re own responsibilitiy to get out of that situation
@@LANDBACKbyANYmeans right.. it’s not the guy who’s running around with the knife stabbing peoples fault… it’s traumas fault, the knifes fault and the alcohols fault how am I wrong then or are you just going to try to insult me. They government has given every one of them thousands and thousands that’s not enough to pay a little rent somewhere else and find a job it’s not complicated
My grandfather went to a residential school. Married a nice woman, built a million-dollar business TWICE (lost everything the first time in the 80s), had multiple children and had a great life. What excuse do these losers have to just...not be violent?
@@LANDBACKbyANYmeans Your mental gymnastics to arrive at that 'conclusion' is even more astounding. You and Justin must be REAL tight. Keep up the grift Grifter.
My mother was in residential school she is still here stop passing it down? you have no idea what you're talking about easy for you too say you never seen your friend brother/sister get beaten too death rapped etc now did you smfh.
It's amazing how quickly the people living on the border between France and Germany healed from the intergenerational trauma of tanks in the streets, artillery shelling and fire-bombing.
Lmao ah yes the famous intergenerational 6 year world war 2. Totally comparable to over a hundred years of oppression and abuse which continue to this day. What a dumb take
The change in the relationship between 2 nations is truly remarkable but cannot be compared with the trauma on a personal and cultural level. In Canada the non-native Canadians have to start the reconciliation. And a good start would be to teach about this specific history in all schools across Canada and USA.
Oh no... those previous generations. I'm not a POS because I'm a bad person... it's cause of all those previous generations who were all previous generation-ey.
@@karenacton3854 this country seems to have lost it's way and the citizens drink the msm and government kool-aid so easily. I love this country but our country is being picked apart by so many weaknesses and bad policies it's pathetic. From energy to farming to economy to the justice system to covid to firearms....everything seems to be going downhill. We need to treat crime more seriously, provide more help to those in need of it, and put Canada first....instead of buying Iranian oil and sending aid money to countries multiple times a year when our own economy is crumbling and our industries run into countless red tape restrictions....I could go on.
Oh give me a break. This is the kind of nonsense that gets spewed in a country that has lost its moral compass. A lot of people have suffered trauma. It's no rationalization to be a coward and senselessly murder other people.
no past trauma can explain or legitimize terrible acts like this. these men were evil plain and simple. and if we as Canadians were allowed to arm ourselves for self defence this would not have reached the place it has.
If said past trauma hadnt occured this man would likely have never entered into a life of crime to begin with Nobody is born a criminal What pushes an innocent person to become a criminal is when that person feels as if they arent safe, healthy, abd happy and they feel as if criminal behavior is either the only way to achieve those, or they feel its the only way to get back at the system for depriving them of being able to be safe, healthy and happy.
@@TheAircool1 The system, is not the fault of the 25 to 30 people they stabbed in their own community. Your comment isn't helpful to the family and friends of those injured and deceased.
@Matt Apparently he served the required two thirds of his sentence. (I don't understand the reasoning behind this) I have even less understanding of the supervised parole he was given. I presume the supervised part was intended to prevent him from committing further crime and to keep the public safe. It's not the first time a criminal has hurt or killed someone while on supervised parole, yet this leniency continues.
If intergenerational trauma and addiction is so common in this community and it's symptoms are violent acts and murdering sprees when can we expect more of that behavior from these people? Maybe they should be heavily monitored if they're so likely to commit heinous crimes? Or is it that they're commonly so below the level of a functioning human being that they can't even be held responsible for their own actions and that we should pity them because they are so unequal and loathsome? Which is it? What are you REALLY trying to say Global News?
Agreed, I want my tax dollars going towards erecting a barbed wire fence around their reserve. Maybe some guard towers to keep them in place wouldn't be too much to ask for.
They should have sent the cops out instead of health crisis workers. This incident seems like a reflection of how our society defunds police, in favor of less drastic methods.
All of my grandparents attended residential schools (2 of whom are in their early 60s) and so did 5 of my aunts and uncles who are in their 50s. The trauma they faced not only affected their lives, but greatly affected their parenting and their children’s lives. Having grown up on a reserve with my family, I’ve seen first hand what drug addiction and mental illness can do, both in my family and the community. Addiction, neglect, mental, physical and sexual abuse are present in some families because of the trauma faced in residential schools. Not all residential school victims passed on these traumas, but some did because hurt people can hurt people. I have cousins who are violent, in and out of jail from having been put in abusive foster homes after being taken away by their alcoholic and drug-addicted parents. I have family members who are drug addicts because of sexual abuse they faced from other family members. A lot of people are on their own healing journey and many people haven’t had trauma and are leading normal lives, but there are those who haven’t had supports and have struggled with drug addiction and violence their entire lives. Having said all of that, my personal opinion is that it is up to individuals on how they live their lives. People choose to get help, and choose to be violent. These men who committed these atrocious acts should not have been granted parole and should have been buried under the prison. Some people are beyond help and empathy. I’m hoping that the justice system does not use gladue and healing lodges as a one size fits all for all native offenders, especially those prone to violence, and finds a way to detect those likely to commit violent acts like this before it happens ever again.
The media is always saying it's anger and trauma...but never explains what anger and what trauma and the causes of this grief. Like what are you hiding exactly??
Read up on the horrors of the Residential schools. I know of a few people who were severely abused there after being ripped out of their mother's arms.
One Canadian veteran died defending his family, there are good people everywhere even at times like this. Brave man served the country for everyone. "In a separate Facebook message, the Saskatchewan First Nations Veterans Association confirmed the death of another victim, Earl Burns, saying he was a veteran with the Princess Patricia’s Canadian Light Infantry. Earl Burns’s sister, Deborah McLean, told the news website paNow in Prince Albert that her brother died protecting his family, and that his wife is in intensive care." No push overs those PPLI probably slowed their progress. A hero in the real sense.
@@JHW44 at least, he got to kill only his own people right? Quit talking nonsense. Other countries and peoples suffered under colonialism, slavery, invasion, occupation and are now thriving. Personal responsibility is missing here and everyone seems to be siding with the criminals. Can't waste my tears on this. *Hiss*
Addicted to government, refusing to leave reservations that have no hope for a better life and happy to keep the cycle going. The indigenous have all of the same opportunities and more than other Canadians but they are the ones who have to choose better.
Stop with the poor Indians. They need to take responsibility for their own situation. Indians have had more opportunities and government hand outs than any other group. Just stop. All non-indians have had enough.
@@MA-gp4oz Fine, let me revise: I mean I'm Jewish and I'm not going after the numerous groups of people who tried to exterminate my people throughout history. Grow up and take some responsibility for your actions. It is absolutely comparable, sorry (save the pity) but you cannot gatekeep genocide.
Know what's better than an orange t-shirt stating every child matters? Actually raising your kids and showing them and teaching them that they matter, like if you have two and a drug and alcohol addiction and are already neglecting those two, don't have 4 more for the elders to try to struggle to raise so they don't have to be taken away by children services.....
i see it as not an excuse but as to what their mental state was in and why they would want to kill. It doesnt excuse the killings they did, what they did was horrifying but it does help us better understand as to why they did it or if they were dealing with trauma and such.
@@yuripinnco3784 spare me. Did the media offer up some kind of reasoning or excuses for any of the other mass killings or manhunts that have occurred in the past decade? No. Not to this kind of extent and not before the person has been killed or captured. This is trying to blame colonialism for their problems
@@K_End You sure are pathetically brainwashed. People are always given a choice. Otherwise everyone who ever experienced something bad or even in their family history would be like that....and they're not. Some people CHOOSE to go down the wrong path and justify it through any means necessary while others take ownership and CHOOSE to go down the right path.
I'm sorry but trauma will only turn to violence and massacre when the victim of the trauma is also a psychopath. I have trauma myself, and I've met many people who suffer from intergenerational traumas and other types, their trauma and pain actually reminds them that they should be kind to one another, not the opposite. Victimising serial killers and predators is fcked up.
Every community across this country is dealing with alcohol and drug addiction. This segment was a new low for Global.............. Maybe if he's cought alive Trudy will give him 10 million,...ya know for his hardships.
Intergenerational trauma? What kind of woke nonsense is this? Taking away responsibility and accountability from these men is socially irresponsible. Online, you get away with it... say that in in a room full of people and see what happens to you
this is the first time i've actually heard that they were from the community. everyone in that community knows everyone i have no doubt of that and it makes it even more sad of a situation. my heart goes out to all of these people. i hope they catch this guy before he dies because we need to understand what happened here. exactly what happened, not just speculation.
@BidenIs NotMyPresident not just the community but the parole board that sees itself as such a problem because of racism that it has to let people like this go free for no reason other than what? diversity? we've been too hard on criminals from certain groups? people are people. if they do bad things they do bad things. being lenient because of what they look like is insane. fixing the system because it is broken is a noble cause but you don't fix it by just letting violent people go just because of what they look like.
Obviously media tried to cover up the fact that they were indig as long as they can. The guy has been wanted since the spring. These are small communities where everyone knows everyone. He was hiding out and nobody cared.
@@syx3s just wait till trudeau implements his judicial reform, which is aimed at reducing or completely eliminating jail time for indig or poc. The system is already starting and this is what happens when you put politics, colour, creed, stupidity and votes before keeping the public safe. With trudeaus new policy, this is just the beginning and we haven't seen anything yet.
Did he know Right from Wrong? Was his brain so pickled and foggy that he was in a total psychotic break from reality? That's all I want to know. I don't need to know the so called "excuses". I want him locked up and innocent people protected.
ah yes... because as we know, EVERY native person does this, right? myself? i'm half cree, we all do this. we must right? because we ALL suffer intergenerational trauma, so we must, right?
Trauma...granted. That being said, you on one hand say you need help with different programs and on the other talk about healing lodges and meeting with elders while the person is still not only in the community, but in the same environment that has caused the Trauma. I'm sorry but it sounds like your blaming history when in reality, history has been kind to no one.
I say the politicians that prohibit Canadians from carrying tools for protection are also to blame. Pathetic. Only in Canada can you have a gun next to you but if you kill a criminal in your home are you liable to excessive force. Unreal.
Yup, when seconds count, police are only minutes away - waiting to just clean up and make a report after the crime has already occurred. The real issue is not the politicians. They just make up the shyte. The police are the politicians thugs and without them, the words are nothing. There is no law so trivial that order following trash would not summarily murder you for the State.
@Not Expat Joe Our ability and means used to defend ourselves is inherent in Nature. Human opinions written on pieces of paper , then called “laws”, are truly illegitimate and have no binding effect on our Natural Rights. Mans law does not supersede Nature. Can man write a law to change how the Sun rises and sets? No. The same is for our Rights. Problem is, the State will send police thugs that will go so far as to kill you, in order to try and elevate human law above Natural Law via “law enforcement”. Police and politicians are the real criminals in Nature and Reality. But lots of brainwashed folks out there, quoting the “criminal code” and supporting the violence of the State.
@Not Expat Joe Appropriately taking a crap has nothing to do with morality. Objective morality. Do people pay their taxes voluntarily or under duress? Do people willingly give of their hard earned resources to the State? Would they willingly give more, so it may be re-distributed to others? If we are being honest with ourselves, people have it taken from them under duress and coercion. Submit your taxes or you will be punished. If people refuse, POLICE will eventually come to arrest them. If they resist them, it is highly likely they would be killed. But, people don't want that to happen to them, so they "pay" their taxes and come up with an endless amount of "justifications" for the violent theft. "Muh roads", "Muh healthcare", "Muh services", "Muh public education". Every law of the State is coercion, backed with the threat of violence. But no, violence is never enacted upon you. Wake up, man. Natural Rights exist in Nature, not on a piece of paper. Know why? Because every country "enshrines" different Rights for people. Well, how can we all have the same Rights, then? They can be "amended" and "added" to, as well? We can give some people Rights, but not others? LOL. That is the mentality of children, not grown up adults who know what Rights actually are. We all have the same Rights because those Rights exist objectively in Nature and Reality.
@Not Expat Joe Thank you, as well. I do hope you will look into the science of Natural Law. Lysander Spooner's "Natural Law, or the Science of Justice" is a good place to start. He wrote that in 1882. There are other resources on this topic, as well.
Not enough services and programs?! The indigenous groups in this country have been given free schooling, tax breaks, massive pay outs from the government, social services, totally free health care. What else can they possibly do?!
This fool was 30 years old. He wasn’t born during that time. Everyone takes drugs, drinks, has family trouble but everyone pulls themselves up and doesn’t not turn on their own people.
This man was danger to society but lived among the ppl and now he killed 10 innocent ppl and injured many others. My heart ❤️ goes out to the innocent victims and their family. Shame on the justice system which failed the victims and their families. Sending prayers in Jesus’s name and love 💕 from Ontario.
does intergenerational trauma also explain why this guy was allowed to roam the streets after 59 criminal charges?
Nope!
The government probably felt bad for jacking his ancestor's land, so just being extra lenient.
@@geessaess1707 - Treaty 6. That land was bought and paid for.
yes...
healing lodges are run by women and over sensitivity
Criminals have rights, ppl like you and me don't
I'm 55, was placed in a facility at 10 and sustained many abuses. At 12 was put into foster care, beaten and beaten up. Was abused at school. The things I endured would break most people. I've been to the government, no help as well as the police, no help and I've not done these kinda things...... There comes a point where you have to take responsibility for your actions (as well the community where they were raised) and break the cycle. I am, as my father Cree. It doesn't matter tho, all types of people suffer trauma. You need to seek help.........that's between you and your maker, it can be a tough road to walk but you have to forge ahead.
exactly. 👍
Generational mental health issues are a problem, and just because you were strong enough to handle it doesn’t mean all are. I commend you for coming out on top of your circumstances but even you said the things you endured WOULD break most people. Not to justify but context is key to getting a full understanding
I applaud your effort in healing yourself and as a fellow Canadian, I would like to apologize for how you were treated. I hope you find peace in your remaining years on earth.
thank god we have the axis forces who fought to save the medicine wheel ...
had it not been for them.. we would all be dead under ju wishy money washy laws
Im 30. I outlived my father in 2014 and he died a violent death. A lot of my elders abuse drugs and alcohol and just wait for the young ones to fall into the same vices, so they'll return to the land and repeat the cycle and take care of them. There was a lot of physical abuse in my fathers life growing up as well.
Before he died he told me about his struggle of himself growing up and not becoming the same thing as his father. He still fell to his vices too eventually. But he taught me that we are not doomed to repeat this cycle if we work hard at it. Im currently in the city, getting therapy, and getting a grip on being a member of society. Id be a fool to say that it was a overnight thing. Or that what I found would work for someone else...
But you are 100% correct. The people I have seen that have worked to break cycles of generational trauma gives me hope for the future. I was blessed to have my upbringing, but I have to work to make the next generation even better off than I have it.
You guys are tough SOBs. We appreciate it!
Anyone who would claim this is due to intergenerational trauma is laughing the face of those who were harmed
like first nations ones..
snickers
or genocide of residential kids
Thank you,
Amen. What a disgrace to the families of the victims for our media to try and rationalize this senseless violence.
I agree.... using a tragedy to promote their story... are we supposed to forgive the killer because of trauma? I know I wouldnt
y'all are real thick to not understand what intergenerational trauma is. you're really so close! as fuzzmosis said, 'what a disgrace [...] to try and rationalize this...'
a synonym of rationalize is the word "understand", as in explaining. violence can be understood and linked to various factors in a society, in a culture, in a person. it ain't rocket science, but it's science. move out of the dark ages, please.
I grew up in an abusive household. I didn't like it, so I chose to end the cycle. Absolutely NO EXCUSE for what he did and did before that.
Global News you are disgusting!!
Thank you!
You one plays the perpetual victim, they become defeatists. Regardless of that smokescreen: this individual knew right from wrong at the time of hid acts. Thus, will serve decades in prison. Past victimization nonsense is not a legal defence or legal excuse.
Global News sound like apologists.
Good on ya Mate!
Only in Canada can you have 59 criminal convictions and not be in jail, simply because of your cultural background. Imagine having to be the one to tell those heartbroken family members that equality killed their loved ones. Gladue reports need to be heavily reconsidered, and habitual criminals need to be kept away from law abiding society.
My dad's truck got stolen from our driveway. He has a lot of work tools and such in there. $30,000 truck with $10,000 in tools.
Their landlord turned them in. He was a pastor that lent them the place when they were homeless, and caught them painting a truck.
So they got arrested, and 2AM that night we get a call. Police won't let us recover the stolen truck or tools.
Luckily the next day the pastor/landlord got in touch and invited us down.
We got there just in time to find them coming up the (narrow) driveway... the thieves.
They got paroled and came back in a van to load up the tools.
We had to block off the road and shake them down for the tools.
In the end, they got zero custodial sentencing, too. No time behind bars except waiting for bail.
Not bad for almost making off with $40,000.
@@Valchrist1313 that sounds like our system almost creates incentives for criminals! That's not right!
We need answers about why 59 criminal convictions is not enough. I'm serious, who should we demand answers from? The judges? The chief of law? Who?
Yeah this is negligence on the government’s part hands down. Everything else is excuses.
@Philip B Why would a Russian person be posing as Canadian and make that sort of comment on a Global News video ? 🤦🏼 Also.. grammar*
Intergenerational trauma is a really desperate form of excuse making. You are responsible for your choices in this life. No one else. This guy is not a victim. He's a piece of garbage.
Thank god criminals have the media to make excuses for their abhorrent behaviour
There are other organizations that condone their behaviour.
@@guitarman3968 not the ones that count and have everyone’s minds manipulated
@@Howard-j6e Exactly. Those ones don’t count. Their rhetoric is predictable and old.
Destabilization, it’s good for change. Brought to us by the good folks at the WEF.
The media is just pathetic!! How about personal accountability and responsibility!! How about lock up criminals and throw away the key!!
imagine it was a native FEMALE, then they woudlnt even bother searching until the murder count hits 20
There’s a system. If it’s wrong do something about it. These guys have been on the radar for some time.
@@Canuckhardtail Do something about the system? The federal government just legislated lighter sentences on violent criminals while pursuing law abiding gun owners. Here we have the result.
We need more gun rights.
This guy is a cold blooded killer! Let's stop trying to find a reason to defend him or point to an excuse! All levels of government failed the victims and the families! This guy is a monster and by all accounts should still be in prison!
If by "prison", you mean "buried under the prison", I agree.
yes, they definitely need a punishment. However, it is better to check the root cause of this and address it in order to avoid such incidents in the future.
@@techiuom621 Don’t expect random internet people to have any perspective.
@@techiuom621 many killers have no root cause. Some people are hard wired evil. Looking for a root cause means find someone else to blame. Every person is ultimately responsible for themselves.
@@techiuom621 Police incompetence is a major root cause of this, because despite his violent history, the police just let him go and roam the streets.
Hey, look, we found a root cause, and it still didn't do anything.
this is perfect. Those scumbags are to be pittied cus "muh trauma."
Their actions have left at minimum 15 traumatised families who can now go out and commit heinous acts according to "muh trauma"
"Mah headbrain is traumatized"
Who cares about the families, they are likely saying the same thing
10 of your own slaughtered and you try to excuse it with 'intergenerational blather". Sick.
"we need to heal", yeah they let this guy out of prison to go to a "healing lodge" and look how that turned out.
This is what it looks like to live in a Godless soceity.
That's why there's no hope for them and they'll never get better but only extinct.
If intergenerational trauma was at the root of all these murders then there would not be anyone left alive on this earth, it's shocking to hear anyone claim this. Have they just entirely given up on teaching history in schools?!!
They haven’t even spoke to this guy and already draw conclusions. Absolutely flawed logic
yes
they have
first nations first
you monk keys will learn this one way or another
come hell or high water
the roof....the roof
the roof is on fire...
I was thinking the same thing. My grandparents in the UK, were victims of WW1 and WW2. Their many losses of loved one's and home caused grief that was felt in their children and grandchildren, just as in millions of other families Yes, it's intergenerational trauma, it's global and it continues. The Ukranian people are and will suffer trauma, which will pass down to future generations. It's not new.
Perhaps someone will tell me it's different, if so, will hopefully tell me how.
The ignorance of your comment is incredible.
ya i get the trauma but nothing has helped to improve their own people . break the cycle .
There was an arrest warrant for him since May, they should have reported him to the police. I’m sure the community knew all about their violence but were scared to report him as he would only be released in a few months anyway, looking for revenge. Our justice system is at fault, if they did their jobs properly he would still be in jail.
The desk jockeys that let him free should be held responsible.
@@dacheese111 The whole chain of command that enables this lunacy should be also, all the way up to the Prime Minister.
Somebody didn’t do their job, if they knew he was potentially dangerous, and had a warrant for his arrest already, then why didn’t they arrest him months ago? Why did they wait?
i grew up in the reserve. only gang members types associate with each other. The types of people who would have been in contact with a person like this would have been people like him. Those types wouldnt call the cops. quit expecting the common native person to police their own like we are one large monolith. These people are scary and violent and if they caught wind of you calling the cops you can pretty much expect to be seriously injured or killed. Probably like alot of the victims were.
@@justinbarton8808 probably because the new liberal hug a thug laws would only release him right back onto the streets. Just my thoughts.
This stabbing rampage was a symptom of a broken justice system, not intergenerational trauma. The perpetrators of this terrible crime both had many prior criminal convictions, most of them being violent in nature, and yet somehow were still able to get parole. Had these criminals been locked up instead of let go, perhaps 10 people wouldn't be dead and 18 others wouldn't be harmed.
They get special treatment. Because they see themselves as a different race. Reversed Racism at its best. Jailing them is not possible.
here here
can't arrest them.
That would be racist! lol
The Intergenerational trauma of hearing lies makes me hate journalists
Nonsense.
Not everyone who experiences trauma does this.
We all have a choice.
I was abused by my own family physically and sexually and it would never occur to me to go stab random people in their home. So, no. Weak excuses.
Excuses Excuses ... So sick of the MSM making excuses for Criminals . Career Criminals even . How much crime and how many convictions do you have to have before you prove yourself unfit to live in society ? 100 convictions? Beyond disgusting . Should still be in prison ffs .
The media is SICK
It’s on purpose. There is a new “status quo” that’s been established in our media. I believe it started when bell media bought out CTV, and started 24hr news to scare people constantly. Something changed.
In Canada, the truth is that there is no number. A lot of criminals terrorizing the streets do literally have hundreds of convictions. This is a rabbit hole Canadians should look into. The average Canadian would be shocked if they realized what was actually going on.
People from all backgrounds, ethnic groups and walks of life have experienced horrors. It is no excuse. Many of my family died in horrific circumstances during and before WWII. Not once has anyone in my family suggested our collective errors or misdeeds were due to "intergenerational trauma". This is just an attempt to excuse horrendous behaviour.
This man is a murderer. He has a long history of violence. Was it really so hard to guess where he would have been hiding since he became "unlawfully at large" in May? If the community sheltered him when they knew he was wanted, they share in responsibility for this tragedy.
I am tired of hearing excuses for crimes (particularly violent ones). Ask any psychologist about the concept of blaming current behaviours on past tragedies (especially tragedies that occurred to people of previous generations). As a society, we are simply perpetuating the cycle of victimhood by suggesting that 'trauma' can be inherited. It can not.
What happens to you (or your grandparents) is often beyond your control, and equally often, completely unfair. How you respond to these hardships IS A CHOICE. Break the cycle.
💯🙌
100%.
👏 👏 👏
But how dare you make perfect sense. The woke of the left, the politically correct and the indigs certainly won't see the truthful facts. And you can bet trudeau will be right there eating up these excuses too, agreeing that this is everyone else's fault.
A person's upbringing can indeed cause them to become violent however, the system also failed these people and he is way above the age of reason, knowing right from wrong. This man had 54 (edit: 59) previous criminal convictions - all violent. WHY in Moses knuckles was he given parole? Someone with this kind of history will not rehabilitate! RIP to the 10 victims.
I hope the victims sue the government for negligence and get paid. Whichever branch of government is responsible for the decision to let him out should have to pay out of their budget.
Exactly, 100% correct.
The people who decide on giving guys like this parole should have to rent a room to him in their house.
Not what I read. I read 54 charges, but a lot of those charges were breaches of conditions.
Because guilt.
Murder is murder! It doesn’t matter what has happened to you in your life or past. Looking to shift the blame on intergenerational trauma is a scapegoat.
Those two brothers knew what they were doing!
10 innocent souls are dead! 18 innocent people are permanently injured or scared!
Justification of their actions doesn’t bring back the dead of those family members or lessens the pain of those who lost loved ones or the injuries of the victims that will affect them for the rest of their lives!
It’s not a scapegoat. It’s an explanation as to why.
@@MOI-qq8zc It’s not an explanation, it’s part of many reasons. At the end of the day, only a human can pull the trigger to kill another human, not your problems. The authorities haven’t even spoke to this suspect yet and you’re drawing conclusions. You see what you want to see and you hear what you want to hear. This is what’s getting people killed. Apparently he’s had 59 convictions. How many would it take before we understand that he’s simply a menace to society?
@@MOI-qq8zc Murder is murder! Assault is assault!
Strawman argument is not acceptable! Period!
@@MOI-qq8zc It absolutely is.
ju wish is ju wish
One does not balance the scales of a ruined life by letting that same damaged person enact their version of justice upon other people.
Did someone say that? I don't think so.
Suspects are not victims.
@@woodsplitter3578 I looked up both words and wanted to let you know that they're not synonymous. You can be two things.
I wondered how long it would take to blame something else. How about taking responsibility for their own actions. This whining and snivelling has to stop.
@@ThePleasantDevourer as long as ju wish
monk key
That’s weird. So many hundreds of thousands of First Nations are victims of inter generational grief and sorrow, but none of them have gone on a killing spree. At some point people need to take accountability and responsibility for their own actions, regardless of their upbringing, sorrows, conflicts, struggles, etc.
I agree with you but keep in mind that different people have different experiences and react differently to to different types of trauma. Some people never heal.
that is called truth and reconciliations
swety
true north and first is why your denial world burns and floods in shame
@@ThePleasantDevourer yes..
as first nation blood..
only he who is with out Sino blood can throw the First stone after all
grasshoppers have a summer's end...
nature will sort you in sects
@@ThePleasantDevourer first nations
means first...
you tacit acceptance is enough...
The guy who cut off a kids head on a Greyhound bus lives in a cozy house in the same neighborhood as the mother of his victim... This is Canada, joke justice
Yep. He's out and changed his name from Vince Li to Will Baker.
@@dougler500
Vince Li should be kept in a psychological facility the rest of his life. Because the same condition that created his crime could potentially repeat itself, when he forgot to take his medication.
That guy was schizophrenic.
There is a distinction.
Schizophrenia is a totally different beast.
Sufferers don't even know what reality is, their brain is broken, not their moral code.
@@dougler500 If that was my kid, Will would have disappeared a long time ago. And the people that let him out, too. People are just too weak in our society and not prepared to do what needs to be done.
This government is nicer to criminals then normal citizens, no justice, treats us like we are evil and they are good.. illegal to defend ourselves, this and that. It’s wrong. Everything’s backwards
Incredible. It's almost as if Global news came up with this video's title by giving an AI the prompt "The worst take on the Saskatchewan stabbing rampage"
😋🤫 don’t say the quiet part out loud.
The root cause of crime is the individual who chooses to commit it.
Yup. Media can Blame anyone but the guy with the knife.
Perfect!
What do you think drives people to commit crimes
If you provide a person with all the things he needs to be healthy, safe and happy, the likelihood of said person committing crime (excusing any mental issues that were there from birth) drops to nearly zero
The less safe, healthy, and happy a person is, the more likely they are to commit crime
If you had the same life this murderer had you very much could have ended up just like him
@@TheAircool1 Based on what? It doesn't matter "what drives them". Murder is still murder. Stop being an apologist for psychopaths.
@@TheAircool1 Tell that to Ted Bundy or John Wayne Gacy
Really? I know people that have lived through horrible things and have never thought about this level of violence. How ugly to continue this narrative. Victim or victor...quit the residential school narrative...does anyone even know if any of his family attended?
mock genocide and you will burn and flood
monk key
Oh pleAsssee plenty of races have dealt with slavery, genocide and yet anytime an indigenous person does anything bad it’s always blamed on this. The battle your dealing with is lack of accountability.
Ah…It didn’t take long for global to start using this. How many here watching this, have had a HORRIBLE, ABUSIVE, and TRAUMATIC childhood, would NEVER hurt someone else, let alone murder. Why does this “race” card always have to be played, like it’s someone else fault people are the way they are? My siblings and I, had a very rough and horrible childhood. None of us ever hurt anyone, or became criminals.
Well said!!! I’m from a broken home and wouldn’t hurt a frickin fly .
@@XoXo475 Many turn it into helping bring peace to others. This sounds like the local bully gone postal happens in all cultures. Those two white kids playing rambo that were man hunted from BC too had backgrounds we did not hear as an adding factor.
I was abused by my dad.I’m a caregiver
@@marietaylor9032 If everyone helped even by friendship the less fortunate and harmed it would be a great country.
Weird how the Chinese immigrants who suffered greatly never commit these acts.
Or basically all immigrants hello
I know a guy who's father would beat him until blood came out his ears ..
He didn't ever do that to his own.
yea its definetly not the fault of the killer wielding the knife who is currently still on the run with little to no remorse after murdering his little brother and 10 others while wounding many more, ffs...
If the killer was high on narcotics he might not have been in his right mind.
I think they found his brothers body so it’s just him now
@@iwanttocry3212 I just said that he killed his brother aha I think you misread
@@prayunceasingly2029 yea i mean i dont expect a guy with 30 + charges against him prior to these events to be all there anyways, but no hes totally safe to be out according to parole board....
@@logan735 my bad I misread
It’s sickening to hear excuses being made for this heinous act.
There are countless that have less and been through more that wouldn’t think to do something like this and this garbage is insulting to them.
wrong..
the ju wish have based their whole fooking history on that semi wit logic
first nations are elders with unaddressed war crimes or cancellations..
hun
Please do some research to learn about the plight of natives in Canada and how they have been treated. Once you truly understand what they have gone through, maybe then you can show some empathy towards them. In no way do I condone the behaviour of these two individuals, nor would I ever condone the killing of anyone. We need to be able to understand how they got to this point and how do we prevent a tragedy like this from ever happening again.
@@dianefrohwerk7494 killing people randomly has nothing to do with the plight of anyone. It is just evil and stfu.
You are the plight.
Have u ever been pimped by ur own MOTHER and hospitalized multiple times by ur own DAD? BOTH of which were residential school survivors BECAUSE I HAVE, YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOUR EVEN SPEAKING ABOUT SO SHUT UP AND SIT DOWN FFS
This is a joke it’s easy to point fingers at things and say “intergenerational trama” everyone is responsible for they’re own outcome and actions in life…. If there’s nothing but drugs and crime on the reserve it’s they’re own responsibilitiy to get out of that situation
I was just thinking "Boy, it sure didn't take long for the activists to spin this horrible tragedy to suit their own agenda" as I watched this video.
@@LANDBACKbyANYmeans right.. it’s not the guy who’s running around with the knife stabbing peoples fault… it’s traumas fault, the knifes fault and the alcohols fault
how am I wrong then or are you just going to try to insult me. They government has given every one of them thousands and thousands that’s not enough to pay a little rent somewhere else and find a job it’s not complicated
My grandfather went to a residential school. Married a nice woman, built a million-dollar business TWICE (lost everything the first time in the 80s), had multiple children and had a great life. What excuse do these losers have to just...not be violent?
@@LANDBACKbyANYmeans Your mental gymnastics to arrive at that 'conclusion' is even more astounding. You and Justin must be REAL tight. Keep up the grift Grifter.
This is such a simple minded way to look at it, you can't even fathom the underlying causes of it.
Has Global ever apologized for lying to Canadians about mass graves at residential schools?
that’s how it works it’s propaganda filtered to the governments choosing.
59 convictions. 10 people dead. 18 injured.
great job, criminal justice system
These people are shameful making excuses for this evil violent man.
There is NO excuse period.
We need to collectively stop watching mainstream media. It's beyond a joke at this point.
There should be death penalty for heinous crimes in Canada.
There will be in the western republic of Canada, don't worry. This criminal wouldn't have been walking free if we were a real country...
You say that now but would you support if it you were wrongly executed?
It's called an armed citizenry. Try to stab people with a knife.. BOOM! BOOM! Double tap. Death penalty served up, all for well less than a dollar.
@@TheAircool1 If we have enough evidence then summary conviction should lead to an execution.
Canada is a pathetic country. We love our criminals in Canada.
So stop passing it down and do better for yourselves and your children. You can only blame others so much but ultimately you are your own problem.
My mother was in residential school she is still here stop passing it down? you have no idea what you're talking about easy for you too say you never seen your friend brother/sister get beaten too death rapped etc now did you smfh.
It wasn’t caused by intergenerational trauma. It was caused by two men who were evil.
It's amazing how quickly the people living on the border between France and Germany healed from the intergenerational trauma of tanks in the streets, artillery shelling and fire-bombing.
Lmao ah yes the famous intergenerational 6 year world war 2. Totally comparable to over a hundred years of oppression and abuse which continue to this day. What a dumb take
@@LANDBACKbyANYmeans try photocopier fluid then get back to me, dummy! No excuse for your continued and consistent poor behavior.
@@LANDBACKbyANYmeans 500 years ago they are still hunting with spears...
@@LANDBACKbyANYmeans Wouldn't it make more sense for it to be stronger the more recent the trauma?
The change in the relationship between 2 nations is truly remarkable but cannot be compared with the trauma on a personal and cultural level.
In Canada the non-native Canadians have to start the reconciliation. And a good start would be to teach about this specific history in all schools across Canada and USA.
Oh no... those previous generations. I'm not a POS because I'm a bad person... it's cause of all those previous generations who were all previous generation-ey.
Oh here we go...Let's shift the blame. Guy was arrested 59 times but no, it's not their fault, not at all. I hate this country....
Oh there’s much more of this to come. I saw that coming when the news broke.
Then leave.
@@karenacton3854 you first.
@@karenacton3854 this country seems to have lost it's way and the citizens drink the msm and government kool-aid so easily. I love this country but our country is being picked apart by so many weaknesses and bad policies it's pathetic. From energy to farming to economy to the justice system to covid to firearms....everything seems to be going downhill. We need to treat crime more seriously, provide more help to those in need of it, and put Canada first....instead of buying Iranian oil and sending aid money to countries multiple times a year when our own economy is crumbling and our industries run into countless red tape restrictions....I could go on.
@@publiccommentor5201 - 59 previous charges have been confirmed.
It's everyone's fault except their own.
BLM claims the same thing.
Amen
Oh give me a break. This is the kind of nonsense that gets spewed in a country that has lost its moral compass. A lot of people have suffered trauma. It's no rationalization to be a coward and senselessly murder other people.
RCMP should be disbanded and replaced with an actual police force.
no past trauma can explain or legitimize terrible acts like this. these men were evil plain and simple. and if we as Canadians were allowed to arm ourselves for self defence this would not have reached the place it has.
@Philip B Nah bro you're totally right trauma justifies killing 10 of your own community members.
@Philip B youre right. no past trauma can explain this.
If said past trauma hadnt occured this man would likely have never entered into a life of crime to begin with
Nobody is born a criminal
What pushes an innocent person to become a criminal is when that person feels as if they arent safe, healthy, abd happy and they feel as if criminal behavior is either the only way to achieve those, or they feel its the only way to get back at the system for depriving them of being able to be safe, healthy and happy.
@@TheAircool1
The system, is not the fault of the 25 to 30 people they stabbed in their own community. Your comment isn't helpful to the family and friends of those injured and deceased.
@Matt Apparently he served the required two thirds of his sentence. (I don't understand the reasoning behind this)
I have even less understanding of the supervised parole he was given. I presume the supervised part was intended to prevent him from committing further crime and to keep the public safe. It's not the first time a criminal has hurt or killed someone while on supervised parole, yet this leniency continues.
Stop trying to give these criminals excuses for what they did. Theyre monsters through and through.
Yeah, THEY’RE the victims because of something that didn’t happen to them.
Pathetic reporting. The reporter should be fired for this.
If intergenerational trauma and addiction is so common in this community and it's symptoms are violent acts and murdering sprees when can we expect more of that behavior from these people? Maybe they should be heavily monitored if they're so likely to commit heinous crimes? Or is it that they're commonly so below the level of a functioning human being that they can't even be held responsible for their own actions and that we should pity them because they are so unequal and loathsome? Which is it? What are you REALLY trying to say Global News?
That was... a seriously intense jump from what they said lol.
Agreed, I want my tax dollars going towards erecting a barbed wire fence around their reserve. Maybe some guard towers to keep them in place wouldn't be too much to ask for.
They should have sent the cops out instead of health crisis workers. This incident seems like a reflection of how our society defunds police, in favor of less drastic methods.
All of my grandparents attended residential schools (2 of whom are in their early 60s) and so did 5 of my aunts and uncles who are in their 50s. The trauma they faced not only affected their lives, but greatly affected their parenting and their children’s lives. Having grown up on a reserve with my family, I’ve seen first hand what drug addiction and mental illness can do, both in my family and the community. Addiction, neglect, mental, physical and sexual abuse are present in some families because of the trauma faced in residential schools. Not all residential school victims passed on these traumas, but some did because hurt people can hurt people. I have cousins who are violent, in and out of jail from having been put in abusive foster homes after being taken away by their alcoholic and drug-addicted parents. I have family members who are drug addicts because of sexual abuse they faced from other family members. A lot of people are on their own healing journey and many people haven’t had trauma and are leading normal lives, but there are those who haven’t had supports and have struggled with drug addiction and violence their entire lives.
Having said all of that, my personal opinion is that it is up to individuals on how they live their lives. People choose to get help, and choose to be violent. These men who committed these atrocious acts should not have been granted parole and should have been buried under the prison. Some people are beyond help and empathy. I’m hoping that the justice system does not use gladue and healing lodges as a one size fits all for all native offenders, especially those prone to violence, and finds a way to detect those likely to commit violent acts like this before it happens ever again.
lol! What religious leaders raped and took the innocence from these kids and many others. Let’s pretend history never happened. 😂
There is NO excuse for this. Hold the PERSONS responsible. They made these murderous choices
No its the knife's fault. We need a ban on knives!
Yep. Make an excuse and encourage more. 🤮
Tamara was in jail for no reason while you and the "justice sistem" find excuses for horrible criminals like this.
Try accountability ???
The media is always saying it's anger and trauma...but never explains what anger and what trauma and the causes of this grief. Like what are you hiding exactly??
I dunno? Why don’t you tell us?
Read up on the horrors of the Residential schools. I know of a few people who were severely abused there after being ripped out of their mother's arms.
You're just not following that'a why
@@guitarman3968 Ill tell you , This is what happens when there are exemptions to the rule of law
Give it up already and learn what personnel responsibility is
One Canadian veteran died defending his family, there are good people everywhere even at times like this. Brave man served the country for everyone.
"In a separate Facebook message, the Saskatchewan First Nations Veterans Association confirmed the death of another victim, Earl Burns, saying he was a veteran with the Princess Patricia’s Canadian Light Infantry.
Earl Burns’s sister, Deborah McLean, told the news website paNow in Prince Albert that her brother died protecting his family, and that his wife is in intensive care."
No push overs those PPLI probably slowed their progress. A hero in the real sense.
It’s quite sad that this comment has no likes, but on the plus side, I get to be the first. RIP. A good man
Sounds like they should have been picking crops and contributing to society instead of drinking and blaming all of their fairy tale problems on it.
Ingenerational trauma is just an excuse to play victim, by not taking ownership for ones actions.
Absolutely pathetic trying to spin this as trauma from hundreds of years ago.
The last residential school closed in 1996, how is that hundreds of years ago 🙄
@@JHW44 at least, he got to kill only his own people right? Quit talking nonsense.
Other countries and peoples suffered under colonialism, slavery, invasion, occupation and are now thriving.
Personal responsibility is missing here and everyone seems to be siding with the criminals.
Can't waste my tears on this. *Hiss*
@@camy3798 talk to someone who has been to residential school and you will understand..
@@JHW44 lots of people have trauma Jess, you can't just go stab ten people and blame your truama!
So, explain all the non-indigenous violent offenders that didn’t have the trauma of residential schools.
My intergenerational trauma is having to pay a bunch of lazy bums for something I didnt to and watch them go on stabbing sprees
its lack of responsibility , people know the difference between right and wrong no matter drug or alcohol issues
Addicted to government, refusing to leave reservations that have no hope for a better life and happy to keep the cycle going. The indigenous have all of the same opportunities and more than other Canadians but they are the ones who have to choose better.
Stop with the poor Indians. They need to take responsibility for their own situation. Indians have had more opportunities and government hand outs than any other group.
Just stop. All non-indians have had enough.
I mean I'm Jewish and I'm not going after Germans or something lmao. Grow up and take some responsibility for your actions.
not comparable sorry
@@MA-gp4oz Fine, let me revise: I mean I'm Jewish and I'm not going after the numerous groups of people who tried to exterminate my people throughout history. Grow up and take some responsibility for your actions. It is absolutely comparable, sorry (save the pity) but you cannot gatekeep genocide.
@@MA-gp4oz Yeah it is. Stop being so pathetic.
Why is it only certain groups of people get to use this defense?
Exactly. What anger are they talking about? That their people got wiped out by white colonizers? Who cares that was ages ago
Amen.
Every nation has pain. From the past that has to be dealt with. Only God can change a person's heart.
Because the government gives them everything they want when they do.
It’s all about the votes.
Know what's better than an orange t-shirt stating every child matters? Actually raising your kids and showing them and teaching them that they matter, like if you have two and a drug and alcohol addiction and are already neglecting those two, don't have 4 more for the elders to try to struggle to raise so they don't have to be taken away by children services.....
And the excuses start.
Stay tuned for much, MUCH more in the days ahead.
i see it as not an excuse but as to what their mental state was in and why they would want to kill. It doesnt excuse the killings they did, what they did was horrifying but it does help us better understand as to why they did it or if they were dealing with trauma and such.
@@yuripinnco3784 spare me. Did the media offer up some kind of reasoning or excuses for any of the other mass killings or manhunts that have occurred in the past decade? No. Not to this kind of extent and not before the person has been killed or captured. This is trying to blame colonialism for their problems
Nothing can ever be their fault. Saints, all of 'em.
Actually I think the cause was murder and the suspect chose to murder because he made a choice and that choice was murder... 🤘🏼
Nah I'm with that
Christopher Columbus made me do it!
You sure are simple...
@@K_End You sure are pathetically brainwashed.
People are always given a choice. Otherwise everyone who ever experienced something bad or even in their family history would be like that....and they're not. Some people CHOOSE to go down the wrong path and justify it through any means necessary while others take ownership and CHOOSE to go down the right path.
You should go into the news business, you'd make a killing. I know I'd support someone giving the simple, hard facts like that
I'm sorry but trauma will only turn to violence and massacre when the victim of the trauma is also a psychopath. I have trauma myself, and I've met many people who suffer from intergenerational traumas and other types, their trauma and pain actually reminds them that they should be kind to one another, not the opposite. Victimising serial killers and predators is fcked up.
Our justice system is about as useful as a screen door on a submarine
Guy had 59 criminal cases history…….. and was roaming freely ……. Brilliant canadian law !!!
Every community across this country is dealing with alcohol and drug addiction.
This segment was a new low for Global.............. Maybe if he's cought alive Trudy will give him 10 million,...ya know for his hardships.
Exactly
Why is this man begging for healing? Do it yourself. Build, organize, do something other than wait for the government to come solve all your problems.
Intergenerational trauma? What kind of woke nonsense is this? Taking away responsibility and accountability from these men is socially irresponsible. Online, you get away with it... say that in in a room full of people and see what happens to you
"intergenerational trauma" is complete and utter nonsense. It's a form of scapegoating
this is the first time i've actually heard that they were from the community. everyone in that community knows everyone i have no doubt of that and it makes it even more sad of a situation. my heart goes out to all of these people. i hope they catch this guy before he dies because we need to understand what happened here. exactly what happened, not just speculation.
Yes, I agree, what caused them to kill their own. Drugs and alcohol were blamed, now it's generational trauma.
Speculation, as you said.
@BidenIs NotMyPresident not just the community but the parole board that sees itself as such a problem because of racism that it has to let people like this go free for no reason other than what? diversity? we've been too hard on criminals from certain groups? people are people. if they do bad things they do bad things. being lenient because of what they look like is insane. fixing the system because it is broken is a noble cause but you don't fix it by just letting violent people go just because of what they look like.
Obviously media tried to cover up the fact that they were indig as long as they can. The guy has been wanted since the spring. These are small communities where everyone knows everyone. He was hiding out and nobody cared.
@@samg8012 i think you might be right. and the people that all this ended up hurting are the people the government is pretending to protect.
@@syx3s just wait till trudeau implements his judicial reform, which is aimed at reducing or completely eliminating jail time for indig or poc. The system is already starting and this is what happens when you put politics, colour, creed, stupidity and votes before keeping the public safe. With trudeaus new policy, this is just the beginning and we haven't seen anything yet.
Did he know Right from Wrong? Was his brain so pickled and foggy that he was in a total psychotic break from reality? That's all I want to know. I don't need to know the so called "excuses". I want him locked up and innocent people protected.
This is why you should have the right to defend yourself this is why Canadians deserve the right to bare arms
Gee , we do have the right to "bare" arms especially when it's a hot summer day .
@@evieshore3270 HURRR HURRR U MAED A FUNNY HURRRR. I’m so sick of this stupid joke
@@bloopityblorp6365 it's spelled " bear arms " not "bare arms " , so there you go.
@@evieshore3270 thanks genius
ah yes... because as we know, EVERY native person does this, right? myself? i'm half cree, we all do this. we must right? because we ALL suffer intergenerational trauma, so we must, right?
Trauma...granted. That being said, you on one hand say you need help with different programs and on the other talk about healing lodges and meeting with elders while the person is still not only in the community, but in the same environment that has caused the Trauma. I'm sorry but it sounds like your blaming history when in reality, history has been kind to no one.
Preach my man
Sorry, everyone has trauma. Accountability is what makes an adult. If you have problems in your life, it’s your job to fix it.
I say the politicians that prohibit Canadians from carrying tools for protection are also to blame. Pathetic. Only in Canada can you have a gun next to you but if you kill a criminal in your home are you liable to excessive force. Unreal.
Yup, when seconds count, police are only minutes away - waiting to just clean up and make a report after the crime has already occurred. The real issue is not the politicians. They just make up the shyte. The police are the politicians thugs and without them, the words are nothing. There is no law so trivial that order following trash would not summarily murder you for the State.
You're not wrong. Liberals want us unable to protect ourselves.
@Not Expat Joe Our ability and means used to defend ourselves is inherent in Nature. Human opinions written on pieces of paper , then called “laws”, are truly illegitimate and have no binding effect on our Natural Rights. Mans law does not supersede Nature. Can man write a law to change how the Sun rises and sets? No. The same is for our Rights. Problem is, the State will send police thugs that will go so far as to kill you, in order to try and elevate human law above Natural Law via “law enforcement”. Police and politicians are the real criminals in Nature and Reality. But lots of brainwashed folks out there, quoting the “criminal code” and supporting the violence of the State.
@Not Expat Joe Appropriately taking a crap has nothing to do with morality. Objective morality. Do people pay their taxes voluntarily or under duress? Do people willingly give of their hard earned resources to the State? Would they willingly give more, so it may be re-distributed to others? If we are being honest with ourselves, people have it taken from them under duress and coercion. Submit your taxes or you will be punished. If people refuse, POLICE will eventually come to arrest them. If they resist them, it is highly likely they would be killed. But, people don't want that to happen to them, so they "pay" their taxes and come up with an endless amount of "justifications" for the violent theft. "Muh roads", "Muh healthcare", "Muh services", "Muh public education". Every law of the State is coercion, backed with the threat of violence. But no, violence is never enacted upon you. Wake up, man. Natural Rights exist in Nature, not on a piece of paper. Know why? Because every country "enshrines" different Rights for people. Well, how can we all have the same Rights, then? They can be "amended" and "added" to, as well? We can give some people Rights, but not others? LOL. That is the mentality of children, not grown up adults who know what Rights actually are. We all have the same Rights because those Rights exist objectively in Nature and Reality.
@Not Expat Joe Thank you, as well. I do hope you will look into the science of Natural Law. Lysander Spooner's "Natural Law, or the Science of Justice" is a good place to start. He wrote that in 1882. There are other resources on this topic, as well.
No…no….no…he’s a creep…a killer…no cover for his actions. Who effin cares why he did it
Eventually we have to hold ourselves accountable.
Haha! Good one!!
Or, I know it sounds crazy, but we can hold the guilty accountable.
@@Nutsacc That's literally what he just said. You sure you aren't just crazy?
Abuse is not an excuse how dare you say anything to try and justify this horrible tragedy
I know im still feeling the intergenerational pangs of when Rome took my homeland cause my ancestors were weak and didnt have the tech. RAGE RAGE raGE
Will you stop blaming EVERYTHING on residential schools????????
I knew this would happen
Not enough services and programs?! The indigenous groups in this country have been given free schooling, tax breaks, massive pay outs from the government, social services, totally free health care. What else can they possibly do?!
@@publiccommentor5201 Then what? Hunter/gatherer lifestyle?
@@publiccommentor5201 Too bad we sold your country to china
@@publiccommentor5201 get over it, what do you think is going to happen? We’re all gonna move to Europe? 😂v
This fool was 30 years old. He wasn’t born during that time. Everyone takes drugs, drinks, has family trouble but everyone pulls themselves up and doesn’t not turn on their own people.
"Intergenerational trauma" ...But also he had 59 criminal convictions and was wanted for months... BUT NOPE IT WAS CAUSE MUH RAAYCISMS
this is lack of government help
Here we go with the excuses already.
Idgaf about inter generational trauma now he cause hundreds of others to have these same issues
I was wondering how long it would take for the media to start making excuses for these to wastes of skin
Enabling is the number one problem.
This man was danger to society but lived among the ppl and now he killed 10 innocent ppl and injured many others. My heart ❤️ goes out to the innocent victims and their family. Shame on the justice system which failed the victims and their families. Sending prayers in Jesus’s name and love 💕 from Ontario.
It takes a village to raise a child (not a government). The solution is right there where the horror occurred.
They haven’t even spoken to this guy yet, I doubt he’d share his motives with a bunch of people as well beforehand.
They don't need to speak to him, they already have their narrative set.
How about we stop talking nonsense and hold people accountable for their actions regardless of their background