Army must reset its mission in Manipur, must not become glorified police force: Lt Gen HS Panag (r)
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- What is the current situation in Manipur, the Army's role in the state, repercussions of a lack of a clearly defined mission, threats to its credibility and more. Watch Lt. Gen. HS Panag (retd) discuss with Dishha Bagchi, in #ThePrintVideo
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1What kuki demand in the first place for against ST is now chnage to 6 schedule, separate administration,union territory and now state....
2 Kuki stated forcing out meitei from kuki dominated area like CCPUR,morey and kangpokpi.....
3 now they are claiming people are seperated and separation is completed and now they asked for separate administration...what a plan...is a long time kuki ....you preplan is already exposed
4 why no others tribal community didn't back your demand even saying is for tribal..total 35 tribal community in whole manipur
5 why kuki people are so active in social media...from may 3 itself....even the propaganda was spread even from middle east and some others country....is they already paid the media and other youtube influencer, fb,twitter influencer..
6 why kuki dont want NRC at the first place....all the 33 community of Manipur accepted but kuki dont want NRC
7 why they are using militant and myanmari pdf lunggi clad terrorist..to accived their demands....if you want to demand than demand in a proper channel as india is a democratic country's...why killing innocent meitei people like you do in maymar...
8 the longer your kuki drama the more the clearer people will understand the root cause and your tactics....only Karan thappar of wire and east mojo is left 😅😅
9why you people are angry when home minister Amit shah change DGP doungel and for that you people even compromised the integrity of army by exposing the name of the meitei army officer who posted in Manipur...
This kuki millitant from Myanmar are using this sophisticated weapon to killed innocent unarm civilians Meitei who are indeginous indian citizen...if they are showing this type of weapon in the independent days...that what we can expect from govt.....this type of weapon parade is like threatens to the security of indian army .....
first thinTwo signs that the violence was pre planned.
1. Various meitei organizations called for a counter blockade since the evening of 2nd may when no organization called a blockade. Barring only kukis from leaving Imphal since the evening of 2nd may.
2. Violence broke out in churachandpur Bishnupur border area around 3:30 pm,
People were posting stuffs about the violence but mobile internet wasn't shut down until 9pm , allowing miscreants to mobilise and gather to attack kuki localities in Imphal and villages bordering Imphal valley.
4th May.There were multiple central forces too in Imphal but they were not utilised,
Khongsai veng, a localiity in N. Biren Singh's constituency was attacked and burnt down, few people were also shot dead, this is also the place were an IPS Officer Clay khongsai resides.
It was only around 6pm that we heard article 355 was imposed, only then the various para military forces were utilised to safeguard civilians, it took the State and central government more than 24 hours to respond to the crises.
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Because some of Assam riflesAR comprises the institution by siding with kuki militant from Myanmar.....they involve in drug bussines and bring more myanmari
Yes Assam rifle must be completely remove ....they are one who is doing all this drama...
@@taibino1422 some 0:02 assam rifle CO have lot of kuki as second wife...like 9AR and 37AR....they just train kuki militant
@@nckimphal8074Assam rifle was just watching when kuki militant was killing innocent Meitei civilian and burning their houses on 3th may....if AR shoot single bullet to kuki militant..than it will not be like this ....AR just help in separation of the people and help kuki agenda of separate administration...and saying they help in rescuing people is just rubbish....
Its not possibe as the CM is the main perpetrators of all the attacks and plan. Untill and Unless PR is imposed it will wont works
Long Live Manipur...
1.implement NRC
2.Destroyed narco terrorism
3.aborgate KUKi SOO agreement
4.Sent back kuki refugees to Myanmar
5.Booked all the culprits of this kuki war
6.Return to its original home town
7. Remove AR
Long live Manipur
Go back Assam riflesAR...we don't need you....just go in Punjab or harayana
Assam rifle was just watching when kuki militant was killing innocent Meitei civilian and burning their houses on 3th may....if AR shoot single bullet to kuki militant..than it will not be like this ....AR just help in separation of the people and help kuki agenda of separate administration...and saying they help in rescuing people is just rubbish....
@@nckimphal8074Assam rifle was just watching when kuki militant was killing innocent Meitei civilian and burning their houses on 3th may....if AR shoot single bullet to kuki militant..than it will not be like this ....AR just help in separation of the people and help kuki agenda of separate administration...and saying they help in rescuing people is just rubbish....
@@thinktank4481 lies
@DarkClown-tj8qb Everything truth is lie to you
But why AR is not protecting meitei when attack by kuki . Plz dont lei at that age.
The Assam Rifles have not acted as a neural force. Not accusing all of them, but some battalions have been found to assist kuki zomi terrorists and to have worked together with them - there is a lot of proof for this.
I va chawh ve.. in sual teh lul nen in la phun a dawt in telh mo? I zak nage.. army zawng zawng hian pui se kap hlum vek che u se la tha tur a nia.. problem 99.9% chu solve a ni mai.
@@madikiestherkhiangte9884 fcck off mizos in mizoram dont play politics in manipur issue
@@madikiestherkhiangte9884 may jesus bless you and may you find peace
What the Hell... You are expecting Assam rifles to allow the meitei Police and Their militants to attack the Kukis like a terrorist.
Where is your proof meitei liar
Many armed forces personnel did some atrocities during early 90s in kashmir so its evident it was happened in manipur too , armed forces is no sane , it has corruption matters pending , the patriotism angle is because people are eating the fruits of kargil war and 71 war ,other wise our armed forces has produced all kind of people who are discliplned too and corrupt as well.
Just sitting in an AC room, we cannot find the peace. Ok tell me.
Why are poppy cultivation happens just next to the camps of AR.
Who is supplying fertilizer for the poppy cultivation?
Why the kuki militants under SOO roams around with weapons freely, under the nose of army?
Who transport the drugs and opium to other states???
Who keeps record of the immigrants from Myanmar? What weapons are they carrying along?
Why do the army silent when the kukis are burning the houses?
Hope kukis get the justice
More than five thousand meitei house have been destroyed by the kukis. Please be informed. Well informed. Respected Sir.
When you have a thousand children, you can't expect all of them to behave in a good manner, there will be some shitty children and to cover up the shitty deeds done by those shitty children you are blaming the people who points out the shitty deeds then you are not a good parent. You don't deserve to parent any children.
When continuous deforestation is happening and poppy is planted in large scale in and around the Assam rifle camps and those areas under AFSPA what kind of protection they are giving to the people. They should take all the necessary actions against those people involved regardless of which community they belong, this some sections of Assam rifles are responsible for all the drugs coming in the mainland and destruction of our future generation into addiction, if you don't have anyone closed who is addicted to this drugs you will never know this pain and sufferings.
Army is there to protect the people of a country and when the people lose faith in the army what is there to protect?
Instead of asking why the people blocked the their path asked yourself why this people don't trust us??? What have the army done that the very people whom they are promised to protect doesn't trust them.
If every retired general in the army so far spoken about manipur is ready to defend the shitty work of a few sections of Assam Rifles then we might not need the Army anymore, you can control and do whatever you like in our land over our dead bodies.
***Unlike Russia or even Mizoram in the past there won't be scarcity of men after the war... for women will die equally as men so good luck we won't give up that easily.
Don't try that hard.The army hasn't acted bias in this situation so far.
Well said 🙏
@@kakarot8856Assam rifle was just watching when kuki militant was killing innocent Meitei civilian and burning their houses on 3th may....if AR shoot single bullet to kuki militant..than it will not be like this ....AR just help in separation of the people and help kuki agenda of separate administration...and saying they help in rescuing people is just rubbish....
@@kakarot8856 oh yeah, they are so much in neutral that they don't even disturb against the poppy plantations around their camps.
@@echanthoibi5660 where do you get your fake news from....bhabhi..if that is so why don't they just shoot at the meitei terrorist and Arambai mixed up coming to occupy kuki lands..they had so much empathy for meitei millitants that they do not shoot at them though they know they are millitants..
The people are hurt by your bluntness. You cannot simply blame the public. We have to defend if you are acting according
So, does the Army need AFSPA when dealing with China as well?
there could have been a more experienced and informed anchor to elicit views from such a senior and experienced army officer..
Assam Rifles are not regular army - they are paramilitary, MHA troops. Neither is CRPF. Where is the claim of Army policing coming from?
Assam Rifles operates under Army's Eastern command. MHA only funds it, everything else is under Army from training to Ops.
Thank you Lt. Gen Panag for voicing his unbiased opinion on Manipur and the possible way to bringing in a situation where an actual talk for peace and plausible solution could start.
Please speak the truth. Respected Sir
Assam rifle was just watching when kuki militant was killing innocent Meitei civilian and burning their houses on 3th may....if AR shoot single bullet to kuki militant..than it will not be like this ....AR just help in separation of the people and help kuki agenda of separate administration...and saying they help in rescuing people is just rubbish....
Just because the kukis are there at every interviews, it doesnt mean that they are speaking the truth.
The kukis have quarelled with every race, be so it assamese, paite, nagas, Tripuris, meitei, arunachalis.
But they remain so innocent in the eyes of Assam Rifles and the army.
Mr Lt Gen. Did you have anything to say when the name, regiments and posting areas of Meitei Army officers were leaked by the kukis and they held a protests in jantar mantar asking for deployment of these officers somewhere not in Manipur? You don't think Army's credibility were threatened by such acts!!? You don't think it's a threat to our national security? Double standards of these people ha ha! Not surprised at all. Lost complete respect for the Indian Army.
Arm chair experts
Why doesn't Indian Government declare cease fire on both sides in Manipur so that first attacker should be punished.???
Please explan SoO and AFSPA impos at same time and area.
In China army doesn’t need to interrogate civilians for information of terrorist .. it will be just a full out war … just because it is within our nation borders the army’s hands are tied at the back , otherwise u will not be able to live if the army is unleashed on you for what it is actually trained for..
One has to fathom to the bottom of this topic that Kukis started first this mayhem by attacking the Meitei community in those remote areas of Imphal vally adjoining the hills where Kukis also settle. Most importantly, Assam Rifles failed to give the security cover to those Meiteis who reside in the remote fringe areas of Imphal valley , Moreh and Churachandpur areas and those Meiteis were innocent , unarmed. They were under attack from the well armed Kuki Millitants. Now, the question is that Meitei women mobs come in the picture as it is one of the ways and means to save our community. If the Assam Rifles could guarantee the full security cover of the Meiteis, these mobs would never be there and even the mayhem could have been contained right in the first week of May itself. Assam Rifles didn't come in the full coordination with Manipur police right from the beginning. Instead of rather coordinating with it, It went on to the other side supporting the kukis which in the eyes of the Meiteis, started having hatred against them as it emboldened the kuki millitants to go on rampage attacking the innocent, unarmed Meiteis living in the remote areas adjoining the hills . Then this mayhem became a full blown one as we see today.
So, the bottomline is that situation could have been much different if the Kuki millitants were not emboldened by Assam Rifles, right from the beginning. Also, just to educate a little bit here if other viewers are not aware already, Assam Rifles , as many people in Manipur used to think from the late 1990, were believed to be supporting the Kukis using them as a conduit in case of counterinsurgency in Manipur and now people tend to think that they are paying back in this manner, supporting them at this juncture. Thats the take from the Meitei community side. And also , there are so many reasons on the basis of geopolitical reasons why Kukis got support from the Indian Govt side as manipur borders Myanmar where some kuki related population is also there plus Indian paranoid about another big giant.
Bottomline is insurgents from valley donot want AR,so all their proxies have ganged up to run a campaign against. 😅
Bedrock of chaos is radicalism. As NE local parties side with whoever in centre. Unlike secular constitutional guv , you thought after,assam,tripura,some of you with imperial nostalgia and majority veneer, use this as ' Now or Never chance to clears off NH2 zone and facilitates their business in myanmar/ bngldesh. Isn't it ?
Assam rifle was just watching when kuki militant was killing innocent Meitei civilian and burning their houses on 3th may....if AR shoot single bullet to kuki militant..than it will not be like this ....AR just help in separation of the people and help kuki agenda of separate administration...and saying they help in rescuing people is just rubbish....
@@thinktank4481 Two signs that the violence was pre planned.
1. Various meitei organizations called for a counter blockade since the evening of 2nd may when no organization called a blockade. Barring only kukis from leaving Imphal since the evening of 2nd may.
2. Violence broke out in churachandpur Bishnupur border area around 3:30 pm,
People were posting stuffs about the violence but mobile internet wasn't shut down until 9pm , allowing miscreants to mobilise and gather to attack kuki localities in Imphal and villages bordering Imphal valley.
4th May.There were multiple central forces too in Imphal but they were not utilised,
Khongsai veng, a localiity in N. Biren Singh's constituency was attacked and burnt down, few people were also shot dead, this is also the place were an IPS Officer Clay khongsai resides.
It was only around 6pm that we heard article 355 was imposed, only then the various para military forces were utilised to safeguard civilians, it took the State and central government more than 24 hours to respond to the crises.
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@@thinktank4481 show source proof second the meitei militiants and commandos were actively particpitaing in burning kukis villages
I think we must be truthful to d chain of events, leave aside political narratives. 1) never heard of a counter blocked by Meitei groups on 3rd, 2) the unprovoked attack n burning of Turbung, Bangla, n Kangvai villages by armed Kuki groups and then simulatneous burning of Meitei colonies in Churchandpur n Moreh are all there to see. 3) violence in Imphal was a retaliation of what had happened to these places 4) finally, why would Meitei groups who r fighting to safeguard state’s integrity want to pick a fight with Kuki groups to further their cause/break up the state. this narrative/logic is untenable!
Where were you when almost 70 percent of the hills of Manipur are damaged to plant poppy cultivation??????
Please don't make it a battle of meitei versus kuki, Hindu versus Christians, BJP versus congress, valley versus hills.
Nothing like that.
May 3 was the day when you could stop all these. You turned blind when the houses were being burned throughout the day and night. Later it was call RETALIATION in English language. We have to react, to fight, for survival, for truth. We simply cannot die just to make you happy. 😢
Good work good job Army congratulations 👏👏👏👏👏👏🎉🎉🎉🎉
Were you when the kukis use JCB to razed all the houses of meitei in Moreh, CCpur, kamgpokpi
Separate state for all ethnic and religious minorities of India ✊🏽✊🏽✊🏽
Why separate state for all ethnic and religious minorities rather separate state should be given for every family
The meitei and kacha naga of manipur claimed that they are pop-up like mushroom from the soil of Manipur 😂
If Assam Rifles are honestly carry out duties, narco terrorism and poppy plantation will be vanished .....
Interesting.
Stop their post 2006 unreasonable pensions.... They will be more concerned with collecting their living than distributing "gyan"
Why army is not burning down Poppy cultivation in KUKICHIN area. Who is the broker then
Drug money can buy anything. It happens in Mexico, Colombia and elsewhere. I am afraid that just to protect the kukis, you are inadvertently helping them move the drugs.
These drugs will destroy thevyouths at Delhi, Mumbai, Bangalore, kolkotta and evrywhere.
SOO are firing even to farmers and AR laughing with NARCOMAFIA
Kuli are minai oina lakpanina 2nd class citizen oina thmgadabani
Now only karma can find its way....too powerful for common voices to be heard unbiased....perhaps in a contestation there is nothing called unbiased...what is the TRUTH is a matter of the future. Counterinsurgency in the northeast is an interesting subject for a non-northeasterner to write bestselling books.
We are blocking the movement because AR are supplying logistics to kuki narco terrorist who is killing innocent meitei, farmers.
"Disarm meitai community" last line... Just warried who will come to talk neutral for the peace... Assam rifles seems having long arm...🤔🤔
Rightly said AFSPA is the need of the hour in meitei dominated areas to bring peace
Don't worry..you just drink the poppy juice and enjoy 😂😂😂😂
Why you are so concerned about AFSPA...is already in uphill...downhill must be safe heaven for all indeginous community
It's a fact that the Assam Rifles remained mute spectators while the villages were razed to the ground. The Assam Rifles danced with kuki women while the villages were burnt. They forces were seen to transport the kuki militants after they conduct arson and lootings. Without truth and sincere acts, the army is a very destructive force. This land was brought up by the Great Mahatma. You are just the opposite
No one takes him seriously. We all know why
Almost all the houses of meiteis in CCpur, sugnu, Serou, Moreh, Kangpokpi, pukhao, and elsewhere are burned down to the ground.
Kukis even use earth movers like JCB to destroy the houses.
Sir you are giving a very one sided report. Thats why we lost so much faith in you
Two signs that the violence was pre planned.
1. Various meitei organizations called for a counter blockade since the evening of 2nd may when no organization called a blockade. Barring only kukis from leaving Imphal since the evening of 2nd may.
2. Violence broke out in churachandpur Bishnupur border area around 3:30 pm,
People were posting stuffs about the violence but mobile internet wasn't shut down until 9pm , allowing miscreants to mobilise and gather to attack kuki localities in Imphal and villages bordering Imphal valley.
4th May.There were multiple central forces too in Imphal but they were not utilised,
Khongsai veng, a localiity in N. Biren Singh's constituency was attacked and burnt down, few people were also shot dead, this is also the place were an IPS Officer Clay khongsai resides.
It was only around 6pm that we heard article 355 was imposed, only then the various para military forces were utilised to safeguard civilians, it took the State and central government more than 24 hours to respond to the crises.
propaganda master & ur evil deed
Kuki people weaponized SoO militants and the first fire, killing civilians , gangraping at gun point, burning, arson were all started by the kukis and then there was retaliation. At one point of time, there were exchange of people from both communities which was a point where dialogue could have begun but the kuki militants perpetuated the conflict with incessant firing and burning. These actions forced civilians to loot weapons because the armies have no order to shoot SoO kuki militants because of SoO agreement and assam rifles were their protectorate because of that. Internet was shut down for whole 3-4 months, there were reports on radio about misinformation and propaganda but the scale at which they have played the victim card was phenomenal, assailant and deplorable. Till this date , there will be comments that targets to spread misinformation, distorting facts. Pathetic scums.
@@chengkop4113 which part of what I said isn't true, is the state incapable of stopping violence, if so the the CM should have resigned on moral ground due to the fact that it failed in its duties to maintain law and order, on the contrary it was asleep or actively participating in the violence, not a single bullet fired and 4000 arms looted from the state armoury and some of you have the face to defend the state government.
@@wongfeihongneyseal3731 who r u kuki-chin
@@chengkop4113 who are u bangladeshi
The manipur state government should be sacked and president rule should be imposed.
Army should fully take control of security. All persons involved in the violence should be arrested soon and punished irrespective of positions.
There is no kuki zo area in Manipur. Control the guns in ccpur first and stfu. Who started using guns first in this conflict ask urself Mr Army.
panag sir allways insightful
Please dont delete my comments
Meitei sakthu
Bring back AFSPA in Imphal valley
The only UNIVERSITY In the whole word which has army CAMP is Manipur University. LOL
Impose AFSPA in Punjab and Rajasthan. OK
Whatever you want to say ,say it to Modi. No use of barking on tv shows
To bring back peace in Manipur
1) bring back AFSPA in Imphal
2) NRC in 700sq miles Manipur
3) punish all meiteis who were involved in this issue
5) strict border must be maintained in between Imphal Valley and Kukiland areas so that meiteis will stop invading kukiland
6) meiteis should stop eyeing for kukiland
7) meiteis should remain only in the 700sq miles
I m coming at the motherland churachandpur, kangpokpi, moreh.
Kuki land is a dreamland.. kuki land is a leir land of uncivilized illigal migrants.kuki land is a beautiful flower poppy but the heart is dangerous narco terrorist land. Be
Then when I named you the poppy fucker ...who soon becoming the zombie 😂😂😂😂
Minai Macha noibu...
Wash out all refugees than come peace
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The real perpetrators of the violence was Assam Rifles is theg remained mute spectators while the villages were burnt down to the ground.
budhe tumko ground reality pata nahi hai