My dad was the one in the RzR here. We ended up puncturing our driver tire too and weve got some better axles coming for the thing. We wouldnt have been able to get outa there if it wasnt for yall and we greatly appreciate yall letting us ride along for a short while and all the help getting out.
Oh yeah he definitely would have. We are getting some rough country axles in it now so maybe next time we come on out there we will make it. He hasnt stopped talking about a redemption run at it :laugh: @@RealTalkPowersports
I didn't think i had an interest in side by sides. Always rode dirt bikes and 4 wheelers, but i saw a maverick turbo for sale pretty cheap and it sold. Hence i delved into researching and noticed our local dealer had a segway on the lot and it caught my eye. So i looked deeper into that brand and holy cow! What a cool machine! Like the other person commented, this video has solidified my choice. Can't wait! Thanks for showing everyone the real capabilities of these cool machines. Thanks.
I have a yxz I made street legal in NC but I'm starting to look at those segways they are really catching my eye and you just showed me they can handle the trails. Love the videos buddy and all things sxs keep em coming.
Can you do a tutorial on adjustments of shocks for the Segway villain would really come in handy thanks and I always appreciate the videos and what you guys are doing for the villain
I have a villain and he can't go wrong with him he gets so much more for the money and yet the visibility handling breaking ease of maintenance is second to none.. I'm even contemplating by the new super villain judging from their smaller brother, I can only imagine what is capable of doing??!!
Great video and nice Villain. When will you upload a video of a dyno testing of it? And do you know when will a MSC clutch kit will be available for the Villain?
Clutch kits are in production and we will release them when they are ready to ship out. I just got back today from filming the Dyno Tune.. So that video will be ready next week.
Segway is looking awesome! It was a pleasure meeting you today Blake along with Joel and the crew at Main Street Cycle‼️ My ZForce 950 feels amazing after y’all fixed her up with the stage 3 trail clutch and ECU tune 💪🏻
I would like to see them in a lot more difficult trails too not putting the machine down but i seen all your videos and haven't seen them on really no bad trails y'all need to follow the canam crew around for a week
I am interested in riding here and more info.. Is it worth a trip frm central KY.? My son is a salesman at a Segway dealership.. I am wanting to see the non-hybrid Super Villain..
i know cfmoto is now partnered up with ktm i wonder who makes segways engine trans n clutch think people will be affraid to buy them cause they havent been out long and shortage of aftermarket parts
CFMOTO is still the ones that make their own engines.. And Segway also makes theirs just like CFMOTO does.. But we will investigate more... And you are right... time will tell.
Ninebot, the owner of Segway builds their engines in house they are proven reliable also the clutch is from CV tech do you research and you'll find it is a extremely reputable company... I have a KTM 300 and a Husqvarna 4/KTMTE 300 two-stroke dirt bike even KTM has outsource many parts and components to other countries Segway is no different.... You think Ford and Chevy and Chrysler Urban estates no, majority of the parts are made/outsourced from the four corners of this globe trust me I'm in the field I know!
@@howarddavis8748 nothings reliable when its new dont care what it is hasnt been out long enough and i ask cause usually off brands usually use someone else engines or parts its not uncomon
What's the durability like between the Segway Polaris and Honda. I have my 2nd rzr a 2019 XP 4 1000, and I'm not very impressed with the durability. I have major clutch issues rear prop shaft issues. SHOCK issues. It's unreal. My shocks where so bad, that riding broke my roof mounts on the back.
Also I bought the RZR brand new. I've just 4k miles on it and it's Nickel and dimed me for 5 years. I'm seriously considering changing. And I've been a Polaris guy a long long time
Lol also one last thing. I do no riding like this! I'm a trail putzing around explorer type I do 30 35 in northern Michigan trails. And they are nothing like this. Some are but never abused my machine.
I noticed that you’re running high gear in the Segway where you would never do that in the CF Moto out on the trail.I’m assuming that the Segway is geared differently?
I would like to know this also. I have an RS1 and have had rzrs, teryx, and KRX but would never do this in high gear. We ran 154 this weekend never in high. Not being critical just curious. Thanks!!
So basically we didn’t learn anything from this video. We already knew the zillas are king of the sxs tires, the villain is a bad bad machine, talons can’t keep up and rzr’s break🤣🤣🤣👍🏻. Seriously great video and that park looks like a blast. I look forward to seeing what you do to and with the new villain in the coming months.
@@RealTalkPowersports no doubt. I have a krx 2 seater on 35” zillas and I kept thinking while y’all were running that the villain looks like it might be as good which in my experience is saying something. Thanks for the good content
@@newyorkmike40342 hey man the truth can hurt and be funny at the same time like hitting your funny bone. I’m just clowning tho, wheelin is like riding motorcycles to me, I’ll ride with anybody on anything as long as they’re good ppl and I have at least a 50/50 chance of surviving the ride lol
Not sure where the Talon supposedly didn’t keep up, seems like it did just fine, hell he might have even been held up because he was stuck behind the Segways 😂
Have the same 30-in Scag tire on my villain and I go everywhere that my friends with 32s on their XP 1000s skags are no joke they hook up really really good!
@@howarddavis8748 I agree. They are a good all purpose tire. I wouldn't want to go mudding or rock crawling with them but ripping, heck yea. They serve the purpose. I had the 32" rock a Billy tires already but I wanna crawl and for me, 35" zillas are why I have them.
Dang bro, I am so happy that you got a villain. I'm sorry to say but you can put as much money as you want into a cf Moto and it is still just a CFMoto.... The stock villain will wax a CF Moto handedly in every aspect. I have a Villain same as yours, except mine is lava red and white and as you know, it is extremely extremely capable machine. Also in addition, very very reliable. But no to self. You will have to change out your intake filtration system, the factory OEM intake filter system is extremely extremely restrictive once you replace it with a more open design and put your tune on it you'll gain roughly 16 to 18 horsepower at the wheels. In addition this motor will not break in and feel loose until about 400 mi after that it really wakes up. I know this because I have one and have done extensive research on it... Like the other comments, when you get the word out and truth how good these are, they should be the number one SxS sold cuz they are that much better while saving money in your pocket is so bittersweet! Cheers to a better year of 2024 and a new president, God willing!!
To be 100% honest with you I do have a villain and yes there are some areas that are very close to an X3 such as upper lower A arms and how it's gusseted up front also in addition the real training arms with a three radius arms also obviously very Can-Am-ish. But somehow Segway was able to make the villain handle better and seemingly stronger where the arms don't bend and break in a gussets don't break. So answer your question Yes there are definitely some DNA from the Can-Am but was enhanced by Segway. If that makes sense? But sharing the same ass and as the Can-Am X3 the villain does tend to buck when he jump definitely needs shock tuning to stop the bucking so you don't nose dive when jumping! Hope this helps. I encourage you to look into the new Segway super villain it's a damn near copy of a Polaris R lol But once again, better version of it... It is easier to imitate and make better than into re-engineer from scratch..... Borderline fine line of copying intellectual property and or patents... But is good for us consumers... However I'm sure Can-Am and Polaris is pissed off!!
They make a 64 inch model as well and once again it competes if not out performs the others in its market. Blame Polaris for making their n/a models 64 not TH-camrs lol
Jesseperry.. What's a more fair comparison? Price and Horse power class.. or width? You are wanting to compare machines that cost more that $10,000 than the segway... This segway is in the Non Turbo class just like the Honda Talon and Polaris RZR... The honda Talon R is 68" wide stock
Unfortunately in the state of Maine we have a 65 inch limit on new machines so bragging up these monsters doesn't do us any favors plus every times I go to MSC website the only thing that comes up are the Motos no Segways I've been a loyal customer for years but it seems you've forgotten the little people
We appreciate you very much but wonder Why you say “forgotten the little people” ?? Just because I post a riding video of the Segway villain does not change anything with what we have done and continue to do with CFMOTO. Everyday we are working on developing better and new things for all CFMOTO models behind the scenes. Nothing has changed with our Commitment to push CFMOTO. We are just adding Segway to the mix.. and if you follow the channel, you can see that I post WAY more CFMOTO content than Segway.
@@RealTalkPowersports thank you I’m sorry I vented so much I’d like to see some content on the smaller villain that could be bought in maine you guys have taken care of my needs
Hey brother, they make a 64-in wide segway just as capable to follow the rules in Maine sorry for the liberal state that's just how those people think. In addition team msc sells quite a bit of aftermarket support for the villain ..it's a slow process It takes money time and development but they're doing their best! so stop whining and get a 64-in VLLIAN and be happy!
What do you mean?? Nothing has happened to CFMOTO.. we all still have cfmotos and ride them and film them. And working on tons of parts and accessories for them behind the scenes every week. Just adding Segway to the mix 👍
I understand you are a CFMoto dealership but after Blake sold his Zforce and now showing off the Segway it doesn’t sit right with a lot of fans of the channel. I bought a Zforce because of this channel and the information Blake shared on the Zforce. Now it feels you are promoting the Segway and forgetting about the Zforce. I can’t sell my 2023 Zforce for a Segway! lol
Put more hours on that Segway and I bet it breaks some stuff too. You’re comparing a few years old machine to a brand new one. I’d sure hope it didn’t break in the first time out.
They won’t show any of the bad on these or the Cfmotos , this is just advertising, I like watching their videos but I take everything in them with a grain of salt we all know these China bois aren’t nothing magical
Decent videos. I like seeing the Segway. But more enjoyable content is a little bit of out of machine filming of it and other vehicles riding..instead of just drivers point of view all the time.
You make a big deal about being in 2 Wheel Dr. as you sit and tear up the trail and make the ruts deeper learn how to drive and listen to it. Sit in free will going down the hill.
My dad was the one in the RzR here. We ended up puncturing our driver tire too and weve got some better axles coming for the thing. We wouldnt have been able to get outa there if it wasnt for yall and we greatly appreciate yall letting us ride along for a short while and all the help getting out.
We sure enjoyed y’all riding with us!
I know he would have made it up if it had not been for that axle.
Oh yeah he definitely would have. We are getting some rough country axles in it now so maybe next time we come on out there we will make it. He hasnt stopped talking about a redemption run at it :laugh:
@@RealTalkPowersports
Buy King Cobra axles, not those cheap ass ones that will break again
Finally a good video, actually shows someone using the machine not just talking about specs and how much money they spent
Thanks ya 💪
The trail looks awesome! You addressed a lot of things I had questions about, especially the suspension stuff. Love to see this Villain content bro.
Thanks bro!! I appreciate ya
More to come
I didn't think i had an interest in side by sides. Always rode dirt bikes and 4 wheelers, but i saw a maverick turbo for sale pretty cheap and it sold. Hence i delved into researching and noticed our local dealer had a segway on the lot and it caught my eye. So i looked deeper into that brand and holy cow! What a cool machine! Like the other person commented, this video has solidified my choice. Can't wait! Thanks for showing everyone the real capabilities of these cool machines. Thanks.
I have a yxz I made street legal in NC but I'm starting to look at those segways they are really catching my eye and you just showed me they can handle the trails. Love the videos buddy and all things sxs keep em coming.
Thanks brother!! Appreciate it
Great video would love to see a video of the Segway on the Hatfield &mcoy trails in wv
We hope to make that trip this fall
Can you do a tutorial on adjustments of shocks for the Segway villain would really come in handy thanks and I always appreciate the videos and what you guys are doing for the villain
Awesome stuff. I need to get into one of these segways.
they are fun
Awesome ride! Those Segways are really starting to make an impact. I think they are going to be a big contender in the coming years!
I believe so
Looked like Steve was having toooooo much fun swinging the rear around. Lol
Haha yep he sure was
Great video as always real nice trails
Thank ya sir
We love exploring here.. keep finding new trails.
@@RealTalkPowersports Looks like it would be really tight for a four seater
Your channel alone has basically talked me and the old lady into getting a villian 😂🤘🏻
Awesome bro!! They are great
YOU WON'T REGRET IT!
I have a villain and he can't go wrong with him he gets so much more for the money and yet the visibility handling breaking ease of maintenance is second to none.. I'm even contemplating by the new super villain judging from their smaller brother, I can only imagine what is capable of doing??!!
Great Segway footage, quite different from the terrain of the Sonora desert.
Thank you sir.. I’d like to desert ride one day
I think lol
Great video and nice Villain. When will you upload a video of a dyno testing of it? And do you know when will a MSC clutch kit will be available for the Villain?
Clutch kits are in production and we will release them when they are ready to ship out.
I just got back today from filming the Dyno Tune.. So that video will be ready next week.
Love the Segway footage! They are impressive machines
Thank you
They're so fun that you think you're doing something illegal bro!
Villain is a sweet machine
Yes sir
Damn straight, love mine. I've owned a Polaris 1000 s XP turbo and a XP pro this is my favorite machine for trails!
great footage, thanks, awesome trail. but why drive so slow? ^^
Segway is looking awesome!
It was a pleasure meeting you today Blake along with Joel and the crew at Main Street Cycle‼️ My ZForce 950 feels amazing after y’all fixed her up with the stage 3 trail clutch and ECU tune 💪🏻
Awesome brother!! It was great too meet you as well! You have a awesome 950
I would like to see them in a lot more difficult trails too not putting the machine down but i seen all your videos and haven't seen them on really no bad trails y'all need to follow the canam crew around for a week
I assume they go full send all the time and not break anything?
Full send and yes they break
Where is this video filmed? Looks like a good place to visit.
NATRA - Rainbow Falls in Savannah Tennessee
I am interested in riding here and more info.. Is it worth a trip frm central KY.?
My son is a salesman at a Segway dealership.. I am wanting to see the non-hybrid Super Villain..
Yes sir this place is great!
NATRA-Rainbow Falls
Near Savannah Tennessee
Did you say your new machine ? Nice choice.
Yes sir!!! This is my new 2 Seater Unit... But My family rig is the 2024 CFMOTO ZFORCE 950 Sport 4
@RealTalkPowersports Sweet !! Iook forward to seeing that monster work out in the woods.
I’m about to buy the clutch kit from yall. Does the can am or Polaris primary clutch pull tool happen to work on the villain by chance?
i know cfmoto is now partnered up with ktm i wonder who makes segways engine trans n clutch think people will be affraid to buy them cause they havent been out long and shortage of aftermarket parts
CFMOTO is still the ones that make their own engines..
And Segway also makes theirs just like CFMOTO does.. But we will investigate more...
And you are right... time will tell.
Ninebot, the owner of Segway builds their engines in house they are proven reliable also the clutch is from CV tech do you research and you'll find it is a extremely reputable company... I have a KTM 300 and a Husqvarna 4/KTMTE 300 two-stroke dirt bike even KTM has outsource many parts and components to other countries Segway is no different.... You think Ford and Chevy and Chrysler Urban estates no, majority of the parts are made/outsourced from the four corners of this globe trust me I'm in the field I know!
@@howarddavis8748 nothings reliable when its new dont care what it is hasnt been out long enough and i ask cause usually off brands usually use someone else engines or parts its not uncomon
What's the durability like between the Segway Polaris and Honda. I have my 2nd rzr a 2019 XP 4 1000, and I'm not very impressed with the durability. I have major clutch issues rear prop shaft issues. SHOCK issues. It's unreal. My shocks where so bad, that riding broke my roof mounts on the back.
Also I bought the RZR brand new. I've just 4k miles on it and it's Nickel and dimed me for 5 years. I'm seriously considering changing. And I've been a Polaris guy a long long time
Lol also one last thing. I do no riding like this! I'm a trail putzing around explorer type I do 30 35 in northern Michigan trails. And they are nothing like this. Some are but never abused my machine.
I noticed that you’re running high gear in the Segway where you would never do that in the CF Moto out on the trail.I’m assuming that the Segway is geared differently?
I would like to know this also. I have an RS1 and have had rzrs, teryx, and KRX but would never do this in high gear. We ran 154 this weekend never in high. Not being critical just curious. Thanks!!
So basically we didn’t learn anything from this video. We already knew the zillas are king of the sxs tires, the villain is a bad bad machine, talons can’t keep up and rzr’s break🤣🤣🤣👍🏻. Seriously great video and that park looks like a blast. I look forward to seeing what you do to and with the new villain in the coming months.
hahaha thanks brother... We will take a deep dive into more details in future videos.. Too much to unpack all at once lol
@@RealTalkPowersports no doubt. I have a krx 2 seater on 35” zillas and I kept thinking while y’all were running that the villain looks like it might be as good which in my experience is saying something. Thanks for the good content
That's funny !! 😂😂 Only cause it's true !!! 😮😮😂
@@newyorkmike40342 hey man the truth can hurt and be funny at the same time like hitting your funny bone. I’m just clowning tho, wheelin is like riding motorcycles to me, I’ll ride with anybody on anything as long as they’re good ppl and I have at least a 50/50 chance of surviving the ride lol
@@marka1712 you nailed it, bud. 100%
Not sure where the Talon supposedly didn’t keep up, seems like it did just fine, hell he might have even been held up because he was stuck behind the Segways 😂
Rockin the Villains. Great to see the whole team with one. The hill climb is awesome man. 30" isn't gonna do as well.
That’s right! It was fun
Have the same 30-in Scag tire on my villain and I go everywhere that my friends with 32s on their XP 1000s skags are no joke they hook up really really good!
@@howarddavis8748 I agree. They are a good all purpose tire. I wouldn't want to go mudding or rock crawling with them but ripping, heck yea. They serve the purpose. I had the 32" rock a Billy tires already but I wanna crawl and for me, 35" zillas are why I have them.
Where is this trail? In which state? I am from Manitoba Canada and would book a trip to try this new Segway and trails.
NATRA Rainbow Falls
Savannah TN
Does Segway have good engine breaking?
Dang bro, I am so happy that you got a villain. I'm sorry to say but you can put as much money as you want into a cf Moto and it is still just a CFMoto.... The stock villain will wax a CF Moto handedly in every aspect. I have a Villain same as yours, except mine is lava red and white and as you know, it is extremely extremely capable machine. Also in addition, very very reliable. But no to self. You will have to change out your intake filtration system, the factory OEM intake filter system is extremely extremely restrictive once you replace it with a more open design and put your tune on it you'll gain roughly 16 to 18 horsepower at the wheels. In addition this motor will not break in and feel loose until about 400 mi after that it really wakes up. I know this because I have one and have done extensive research on it... Like the other comments, when you get the word out and truth how good these are, they should be the number one SxS sold cuz they are that much better while saving money in your pocket is so bittersweet! Cheers to a better year of 2024 and a new president, God willing!!
Thanks bro for the info 💪👍 I am looking forward to what this year has in store!
I thought I heard a rattle near the end of your video. Is that your gear/stuff you brought?
A rattle? Not sure .. was it the sound of my skid plate hitting
what kind of engine do the Segways use? More engine info.
I just see Segway stamped all over it.. ill try to find out more.
Does Steve and Joel’s have a tune or clutch kit
Joel’s been testing clutch kits in his and I’m bout to have a setup in my 24 model.. they will be ready very soon
Like the Segway a lot better than the cf moto. Would like some videos of Segway doing some fast (30 to 50 mph) trail riding to see how it handles
We will do that soon..
At another location
what is that squealing noise when coasting?
Clutch noise is what I assume you are referring to
Who builds Segways engine?
Is it not just an x3 clone with a na motor?
To be 100% honest with you I do have a villain and yes there are some areas that are very close to an X3 such as upper lower A arms and how it's gusseted up front also in addition the real training arms with a three radius arms also obviously very Can-Am-ish. But somehow Segway was able to make the villain handle better and seemingly stronger where the arms don't bend and break in a gussets don't break. So answer your question Yes there are definitely some DNA from the Can-Am but was enhanced by Segway. If that makes sense? But sharing the same ass and as the Can-Am X3 the villain does tend to buck when he jump definitely needs shock tuning to stop the bucking so you don't nose dive when jumping! Hope this helps. I encourage you to look into the new Segway super villain it's a damn near copy of a Polaris R lol But once again, better version of it... It is easier to imitate and make better than into re-engineer from scratch..... Borderline fine line of copying intellectual property and or patents... But is good for us consumers... However I'm sure Can-Am and Polaris is pissed off!!
how much power is there in this bug?
105hp
@@RealTalkPowersports This is his standard power because I was told that he has 87
The Segways are starting to look very competitive, a sleeper in disguise!
I do agree
Segway will get waxed by a pro r or turbo r. Compare it to other 70+ inch machines and it’s at the bottom of the group
Why compare it to 30k boosted machines? It’s in the market with the n/a 1000s and it stacks up well if not better than all of them.
@@joshabney2512 they’re comparing a 72 inch machine to 64” machines…. Why can’t I compare their 72” machine to other 72” machines?
They make a 64 inch model as well and once again it competes if not out performs the others in its market. Blame Polaris for making their n/a models 64 not TH-camrs lol
I bet money on the trails a turbo machine won’t do any better than a NA machine. If you wanna drag race buy a drag car.
Jesseperry.. What's a more fair comparison? Price and Horse power class.. or width?
You are wanting to compare machines that cost more that $10,000 than the segway...
This segway is in the Non Turbo class just like the Honda Talon and Polaris RZR...
The honda Talon R is 68" wide stock
Safety first unless your trying to get footage. Gotcha.
That’s right.. and your a trained professional 😉
Unfortunately in the state of Maine we have a 65 inch limit on new machines so bragging up these monsters doesn't do us any favors plus every times I go to MSC website the only thing that comes up are the Motos no Segways I've been a loyal customer for years but it seems you've forgotten the little people
We appreciate you very much but wonder Why you say “forgotten the little people” ??
Just because I post a riding video of the Segway villain does not change anything with what we have done and continue to do with CFMOTO. Everyday we are working on developing better and new things for all CFMOTO models behind the scenes.
Nothing has changed with our Commitment to push CFMOTO.
We are just adding Segway to the mix..
and if you follow the channel, you can see that I post WAY more CFMOTO content than Segway.
@@RealTalkPowersports thank you I’m sorry I vented so much I’d like to see some content on the smaller villain that could be bought in maine you guys have taken care of my needs
Yes sir will do
Hey brother, they make a 64-in wide segway just as capable to follow the rules in Maine sorry for the liberal state that's just how those people think. In addition team msc sells quite a bit of aftermarket support for the villain ..it's a slow process It takes money time and development but they're doing their best! so stop whining and get a 64-in VLLIAN and be happy!
The one big problem i see is there to wide and suspension and you still buying a machine that has to have clutching done lol
It does not "require" clutching.. but just like canam and polaris rzrs, you can make it even better with aftermarket parts..
What happened to CFMoto?
What do you mean??
Nothing has happened to CFMOTO.. we all still have cfmotos and ride them and film them. And working on tons of parts and accessories for them behind the scenes every week. Just adding Segway to the mix 👍
I understand you are a CFMoto dealership but after Blake sold his Zforce and now showing off the Segway it doesn’t sit right with a lot of fans of the channel. I bought a Zforce because of this channel and the information Blake shared on the Zforce. Now it feels you are promoting the Segway and forgetting about the Zforce. I can’t sell my 2023 Zforce for a Segway! lol
Seems like u guys forgot about the atvs also.
@@k.l.858 Butt hurt sounds like.
They are still around but there are better vehicles to cover...lol
Put more hours on that Segway and I bet it breaks some stuff too. You’re comparing a few years old machine to a brand new one. I’d sure hope it didn’t break in the first time out.
They won’t show any of the bad on these or the Cfmotos , this is just advertising, I like watching their videos but I take everything in them with a grain of salt we all know these China bois aren’t nothing magical
Decent videos. I like seeing the Segway. But more enjoyable content is a little bit of out of machine filming of it and other vehicles riding..instead of just drivers point of view all the time.
love the content but can't help but notice your group follows way to close to each other when going down or up any inclines
no Deity worthy of worship in truth except Allah, the Exalted
You make a big deal about being in 2 Wheel Dr. as you sit and tear up the trail and make the ruts deeper learn how to drive and listen to it. Sit in free will going down the hill.
Other viewers have asked me to always try to notify the viewers what gear I’m in and what mode during these type of riding videos.
My 23 zforce 950sport gen2 would run all over them villans. Just sayin...
The Gen 2 z950 is snappier and quicker in the trails ..