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- The first hearing for Colin Gray, father of the teen accused of killing four at a Georgia high school, just wrapped. Gray faces up to 180 years for involuntary manslaughter. His son, charged as an adult, faces life without parole. Both return to court Dec 4. Dave Aronberg joins Morning Joe to break down the latest.
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That isn't parenting, that's an accomplice
I love this comment!
Many parents today want to be their kid's buddy.
I believe the term is "accessory"
@@scottbilger9294 Sorry. Grandpa knows how to Google.
"An accomplice is someone who actively participates in a crime by directly assisting the perpetrator during its commission, often being present at the scene, while an accessory is someone who aids a criminal before or after the crime occurs, typically by helping them evade capture or conceal evidence, and is not usually present during the crime itself"
He got the kid the gun, he's directly involved.
the only ones saying Colt's father "BOUGHT" him/colt an ar15 is the demoncrat/marxist machine medias. think that through, do you want to be loaded on cattle cars by thugs. REAL HISTORY. THE problem is leniency on "kids" to criminals for 7+ decades. especially black, boys, girls followed some, they still are made responsible for everyone.
So, the father gave this murderer an AR-15 AFTER the kid was investigated for his online threats. The father enabled his son to commit mass murder and should be held accountable and live out the rest of his life in prison.
Looks like that’s happening - tragic all round, but FAFO 😢.
Its all part of the plan the fbi lets it happen so they can take guns 🥲
@@10highflush I'm old now. Back in the day we where always walking around talking about killing somebody. No one ever took any of that seriously. Nor did we mean it. Or did we. Cause the only difference was the access to the weapon. If this is what a parent is hearing now and they have weapon..yep red flag all day
100% AGREE💯💯💯💯💯
@@Prudence-i7u curious why you guys said that back in the day in the first place? you are talking about local disputes and anger boil overs and that sort of thing?
He named his son Colt, and gave him an AR-15 when he was still a child. He has destroyed his son.
And his mother's a piece of work too. These are people who should never have had children in the first place. Terrible....
One less trump vote.
or two perhaps.
@@deborahwalker7406 Good point!
It’s Cole, not colt.
I don't understand why any parent would give a child an AR-15.
He’s a Republican
They are marketing one for a toddler. Guns for all???
He's a Trump supporter.
It’s a macho thing.
But, really, why does anyone need one?
It's about time the parent(s) are held accountable for their child's murderous behaviors.
Oh this was not a typical parenting failure .. HE KNOWLEDGABLY HELPED HIM!! Absolutely fully accountable!!
Bot, this is the 3rd repeate of this comment
@@arielspencer187doesn't matter, unconstitutional to charge someone for another crime. This isn't the USSR
@@CoperliteConsumerAccessory to a crime.
I guess you do not have any children?
Hold parents accountable!!!
I am the parent of a 14-year-old boy and it is my job to make sure that he knows right from wrong. It is my job to make sure he knows how to treat people. I am responsible for my child.
That man is responsible for his child!
It is an unwritten rule that parents are responsible for their children.
I think some of this is genetic though. Obviously if the father enjoys hunting, he has some type of violent nature himself.
@@carlyar5281 I read that the other siblings…two? are with the mom, who was reported to be seriously drug addicted. The whole ghastly story will now roll out for all to absorb. There will be plenty of blame to go around, no doubt…
It is also very much your job to know what your kid is going through, if she/he is happy & well-adjusted, and if not to get your child some help---and that doesn't include changing him/her to another schoolwhen the child can't make friends anyway. I am certain that Colt knew right from wrong, knew how he was supposed to treat people---that part is easy. The hard part is the communicaton & being aware of your child's issues & NOT being in denial b/c it looks good on you. That's the hard part.
@@vintagelady1 Although sometimes it's difficult to get teenagers to get the help that you know they need. My daughter was dealing with some issues in which she was acting out at school. I believed it was the result of past trauma and grief over a close relative passing away. I made all these appointments with a psychologist who then referred her for CBT. The referral took months. Once my daughter actually spoke with the therapist, after only a couple of sessions, they said they could not continue the therapy because she was not willing to participate. I wanted to force her to do it but the therapist explained that therapy is not as effective unless the individual wants to participate and there are other people waiting to receive services who are willing to participate. I ended up switching my daughter's school and actually a lot of the issues resolved.
His son didn’t need a rifle. His son needed/needs therapy.
because of the kind of parents he has
Needed a parent
You can't hold every parent accountable for a child's actions, but in this case, the defiance and negligence is so blatant!
He's not being held accountable for being a bad parent, it's for providing a firearm to a minor whom he should have known was having mental issues. He's be equally responsible legally if he provided a firearm for a robbery or a murder, knowing that was what it would be used for.
Y'all are focused so much on the father and not the fact that in Georgia, there is no minimum age limit for a child possessing a rifle or shotgun. The only thing they can't have are handguns. They can't buy guns themselves, but a parent can legally give them one. There is also no "red flag" law in Georgia that would have barred this possession once Colt had been on record as making threats. The father bought that rifle for Colt because it was perfectly legal to do so. THIS is the REAL problem. And the Republicans know this, which is why they're placing sole blame on the father, to distract y'all from demanding more sane and sensible gun laws.
Y'all are focused so much on the father and not the fact that in Georgia, there is no minimum age limit for a child possessing a rifle or shotgun. The only thing they can't have are handguns. They can't buy guns themselves, but a parent can legally give them one. There is also no "red flag" law in Georgia that would have barred this possession once Colt had been on record as making threats. The father bought that rifle for Colt because it was perfectly legal to do so. THIS is the REAL problem. And the Republicans know this, which is why they're placing sole blame on the father, to distract y'all from demanding more sane and sensible gun laws.
@@vintagelady1the problem that it was perfectly legal for the father to give his son a rifle. This is all a distraction to get us looking another way, while the real issue is right in front of us. We need better gun laws. Especially in states like Georgia
If people don’t know how to raise a child to adulthood, they should not have children. Have children just because you can isn’t bright, at all. Non whatsoever!!
It’s about time we hold parents accountable. Who gives their kid an AR-15?
A monster.
Y'all are focused so much on the father and not the fact that in Georgia, there is no minimum age limit for a child possessing a rifle or shotgun. The only thing they can't have are handguns. They can't buy guns themselves, but a parent can legally give them one. There is also no "red flag" law in Georgia that would have barred this possession once Colt had been on record as making threats. The father bought that rifle for Colt because it was perfectly legal to do so. THIS is the REAL problem. And the Republicans know this, which is why they're placing sole blame on the father, to distract y'all from demanding more sane and sensible gun laws.
Ah, nope. This kid had previously put on social media that he was thinking about doing something like this, a cpl yrs prior to this incident, and he STILL had access to a g! Big difference there. It doesn't sound like you know the facts of this case.
There's a fixation in American men of their sons assuming the passage to "manhood" regardless of how ready, or well prepared, they are. When a nation gives hundreds of thousands an M16 for military campaigns from the age of 18, a national mythology exists around "boyhood to man as warrior/protector". That's how it occurs. Men don't talk deeply or think critically, they instruct and bestow trust - then hope it's deserved and respected.
@@deechr1602 Nothing wrong with gifting your son or daughter a firearm. Obviously in this case it shouldn't have happened but year after year hundreds of children receive firearms from their parents and have zero issues.
@@bend3rbot The passage from child to man is celebrated all over the world in various ways. The man as protector is as old a concept as mankind itself.
Mental health issues or not, a child/teen should not have access to a gun, let alone an AR-15.
It is illegal for anyone under the age of 18 to own or possess an AR-15 in the US. Dad should go to jail just for giving him the gun, let alone enabling his sons murderous behavior.
Exactly. There are laws now for that reason.
I recieved my first shotgun when I was 10....oh no the horror.
@@spankyssurprise1361 While that is wildly irrelevant to the situation in Georgia, I would bet your father taught you responsibility. Clearly that wasn’t the case in Georgia, since the father gave the gun to his son AFTER the FBI interviewed the two of them after the boy published gun shooting threats on line. As a gun owner, you should be incensed at this kind of behavior.
@@johnceragioli9671Untrue. It’s absolutely legal for a minor to own /possess an AR-15. It’s not legal for them to BUY one, though.
I’m so tired of the representation of guns as toys. The fact that parents buy their kids guns as Christmas and birthday gifts, just boggles my mind.
Some parents think it's a right of passage. Like a coming out party for a debutan.
@@sarahbyrd772 Only in America
"My how you've grown. I think you're old enough now to start ending lives."
you picked the right name, "lefty"
@@l337pwnage What, as opposed to "killer" or "I raised a child killer"?
Regardless of the mental health issues, there is never a good reason to present your child with an AR15. Period.
WHO GIVES A TROUBLED 14 YEAR OLD AN AR-15??
Someone who has a vestigial organ in their head.
A disturbed parent who's a GOPer and obsessed with the 2nd A.
A man who's going to spend at least a few years in jail.
this guy
@Theleftisdesperate yes i'm definitely going to believe that coming from "the left is desperate" 😂
About time parents are being held responsible for their dependents violent behavior.
what's even more impressive is that Georgia doesn't have a red flag laws.
@@cynthialeveque6606 Ohh, I feel so much better that it was JUST an automatic weapon. Thanks!
@@foolmenow00not an automatic weapon.
@@johnfuller9441 Maybe, but it WAS a LETHAL weapon, wasn't it, Genius ?
@@johnfuller9441Explain the difference between an AR15 and an automatic weapon.
LIFE IN PRISON FOR BOTH SHOULD BE MANDATORY
@@scottwhallin2461 well the father just got a 180 year sentence as you probably know so hopefully that should be a deterrent....then again it might not be...😕🙄😐
@@shaunflanagan8735 He's not CONVICTED yet, he's only been CHARGED. Two different things...
@@jimlanpheer5281 but he will be
@@shaunflanagan8735Depends on the jury. If it's 2A absolutes he'll probably get off.
@@scottwhallin2461he bloody better not!!!
Bad parenting is not unusual, unfortunately.
Now it's punishable by law 😈😈😈
but rarely deadly
Meh, that depends on the situation @randyearles1634
His parenting style is criminal
And that is why a parent shouldn't have the right to raise their kid however they want.
There is a whole society that is affected.
There is no such thing as.."not my child"
Yes, your child, my child, anyone's child.
Carol Burnett said, You have to love your child enough to allow them to hate you.
Ya gotta parent. 🥺🤷
that is absolutely right. i see a lot of parents who are abjectly terrified of their kids hating them. at some point, if you are doing your job as a parent, your kid is going to hate you. on the rare occasion my kids have yelled "I HATE YOU!" in an attempt to break me down, i have said "good."
@@dietotaku I got it too. 😂 I said well then I'm doing my job! As I'm slinging stuff trying to make him think I'll take him out. 😂🍻
Biden says they're all our children... & the schools are the ones raising them.
Mine isn't speaking to me because of tough love currently. (SIGH)
My mother told us kids, "If an adult accuses you of doing something wrong, be warned: you are presumed guilty until proven innocent."
But they want to ban books. But we can't ban AR-15. Where is the logic in that.
Whew! That is something I never thought about. Go figure 🤔
At least ban the ammunition for these weapons.
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
@@silvanarusso5663treason, go ruin someone else's country, we are free here!
@@CoperliteConsumer When that was written, weapons were single fire muskets, not semi automatic AR-15's.
Amazing how fast justice can move when the accused is not rich.
Exactly!!
100%
Just us
BINGO!
For America, no truer words have been spoken.
I'm a 38yr old black man. As a kid, my mom would throw away toy guns I got as gifts behind my back.
That guy isn't a parent.
"Don't you know more guns make for more safety!?"-said NO responsible loving parent EVER
I did the same thing as a parent. By the time my son was 5, he had instead a very large bookcase filled with books.
@@Lillie-p1k
We are all glad he still identifies as your 'son'.
@@Lillie-p1ki refused to buy my son toy guns as well 🇬🇧 😊
I am a Black mother with a 14yo son. We come from a family who were hunters, but some are gun owners/collectors. It was important for us, as gun owners, to educate our kids on the WHY, HOW & WHEN. But never the WHERE!
It took him turning a certain age and understanding before he was given a cap gun. He knew about the orange piece attached and why it was there, but he never had access to it nor played with it w/o me or dad being present.
broken family ..... broken child......many more out there in our nation. Be aware all.
Dad's stupidity might have caused a divorce.. but a divorce didn't cause Dad's stupidity..
Broken Families: brought to you by: Democrats
The father is 100% responsible.
You’ll don’t think our counties lax gun laws are also at least partially responsible?
So if the father plus 100% responsible, there's no need to prosecute the son.
He gonna pay for this 100%. He just wasted his life.
Bought AFTER police already told him his kid threatened to shoot people.
The NRA approves of it all
@@mrhead6856It’s legal in the US for parents to give guns to their kids for hunting, ranching, & target practice. FBI & ATF hands were tied. Laws would need changing.
Venturing a guess, maybe he believed the kid that he'd been hacked and bought it for him to "prove them wrong"?
Or he brought up this kid to be a weaponized psycho because he's one himself, though a gutless one.
@@c.eb.1216 no excuses.
@@tringuyen7519the only thing standing in the way of gun reform is the gun toting, thoughts & prayers sending GOP
Another shinning example of a "Responsible gun owner"!
Wrong. Both the father and son are irresponsible gun owners.
1. If the father knew his son was mentally I’ll, he shouldn’t have had a gun in the first place.
2. If the father knew his son was mentally I’ll, he shouldn’t have bought him a gun.
3. The father knew about his son’s online threats.
@SharonElizabethWhitfield Calm down! I was being sarcastic!
It was sarcasm ya silly lady! 😂
This is correct. The parents need to be held responsible until they've moved out of the house and then they're on their own.
And then do the same for all the parents in the ghetto..right?
When you're over 18, and living with your parents then you are responsible for your own actions because you're now considered an adult.
@@goov47if your grown child or family
member is unstable you can’t give him a gun.
Many adults are unstable and mentally ill
@@sherrihutton9335 I understand, but giving a child a gun is unnecessary. A child can fatally shoot his friend by mistake. He and his parents would have to live with that. Hand him a football or baseball, but a gun is crazy.
OMG - how about a father giving a book instead of a gun?
So many books have been banned, remember.....cause they are sooooo very dangerous!!!
The irony!
There’s a good chance the kid can’t read, so a book…? Might as well give a cat a typewriter.
I thought MAGA burned all your books..
They don’t strike me as the cerebral type
I recieved both.
What kind of parent buys their 14 year old son a gun as a Christmas present? And this was after he was investigated for online threats!!!???
It’s time for this type of father to be held accountable.
🎯 The fruit doesn’t fall far from the tree.
Time for elected officials to be responsible instead of paid off stooges.
@@FieldBlaser Are you talking about Hunter Biden ?
@@Dingleberry777Your deflection is noted and a waste of time.
There should be coded law for this, instead of prosecutors scrambling to piecemeal current laws on on the books to make something stick. How many times has this been happening for lawmakers not to take action?
These are the "nobody can tell me what to do" people.
I live in a 75% Republican County. They're all like this.
They confuse freedom with being unaccountable.
Well said.
Democrats own guns too. I know many Republicans and Democrats that are responsible gun owners. Putting the blame on one group of people is ridiculous . No wonder our country is so divided.
🎯🎯🎯
Ditto!!!
This is why we need to prevent tRump from getting elected to office again!
Finally a kid who does this is being held accountable as an adult and the father who bought the gun that he used is being held accountable.
Who gives a lethal weapon to ANYONE as a gift for any reason?
Why would a father buy a child a gun like an AR-15 for a present? This is crazy!!
because therapy isnt mandatory so no one is ever able to get to the bottom of why so many people are obsessed with guns
It's legal in America isn't it
@@PirateRemyNot at that age.
My father bought me a 30-06 when I was at this age. A much bigger caliber.
@@PirateRemyit’s legal by is it right?
A child should NOT have guns!!!
Period!
I'm a UK adult, as a child I pointed a cap gun at a friend of my father. He took the toy from my hand and slapped my legs! i cried to my father and he told me I should never point a gun at anyone!
Did he also tell his friend that he shouldn't hit anyone? If not, that's a pretty hypocritical stance to take.
@@siobhannoble8545 Some children can not hear without the assistance of some moderate physical pain, like a good old spanking that our fathers use to give
.
We are painfully aware that this is a uniquely American disorder...
Better than alot of fathers today ngl.
Now look at your country.
perfect example of why not everyone should be allowed to be parents
What the heck was this guy thinking ,giving a 14 year old an AR style rifle after you found out he was planning on doing it…I applaud the authorities for charging the father
or calling his son Colt; what kind of name is that?
Finally, parental accountability.
You better pay attention to your children then since you feel that way😂
@@SheryJones-pi2fethat’s the point!!
@@SheryJones-pi2fe You SHOULD 'pay attention to your children'. Why do you think that idea is a joke?
@@SheryJones-pi2feeveryone needs to pay attention to their children. You don’t know that? I hope you don’t have kids
But not for law enforcement that knew this would happen for the past year
His tears are out of fear not remorse. Just like Ethan Crumbley's father.
You don't know that that's just your opinion.
@@SheryJones-pi2fe that sounds like yours
@@SheryJones-pi2feshould have taken the FBI questioning to heart. Too late now. No sympathy from me.
@@SheryJones-pi2fe He bought his son an AR rifle AFTER the FBI came to their home for school shooting warning that he made. His tears may be a combination of things but for sure his fear his part of it. Any man facing a 180 year prison sentence should be scared.
@@SheryJones-pi2fe BUT, it's a safe bet !
He is a disgusting vile person. How dare he put children at risk including his own son. He is neglectful, irresponsible and 100%responsible for those deaths and Injuries.
What a horrible father
Not all people with reproductive organs are fit to be parents. Just because you can create and give birth to a child, doesn't mean you can or should raise a child. Perfect example is Colin Colin Gray. Where was the mother in all of this? She left her son with a man the likes of Colin Gray? She needs to be held accountable as well.
@@silvanarusso5663 The only parent to blame is the father. He was the one who gave him that weapon as a Christmas gift, and he was raising that boy alone. The father wasn't mentally ill.
Where is the mother in all of this
@@HazelJuanitaMillanHoffman They're separated. He was raising his son.
He’s MAGA. That explains everything.
This is not a strategy , it’s holding the proper folks ,parents, accountable with their children. Wake up gun owners.
I agree with this parent being charged based on the facts. I'm a proud and responsible gun owner. All gun owners are not irresponsible like this parent.
I agree as a proud gun owner
I just remember growing up, then raising my own kids, and if you were under 18 and committed ANY crime, the parents were help accountable. Wth happened?? And this is one of the worst things ever.
@@gunsntatsmy ex had tons of guns, under lock and key, kids never had access
What if AR-15s were outlawed, then maybe the son never gets this gun.
What this kid did and others like him, was a sign that he was not in a loving environment. And what I mean by loving, I mean parents setting healthy boundaries, providing guidance, and discipline. Love is not being friends with your kids or letting them figure the world out on their own.
Dad is rocking back and forth in distress. Dude, this is your fault. Child cruelty, yes, it was cruel his Mom is a drug addict and his Dad is intellectually deficient.
@@jessiejoseph1093 It does sound as if this pathetic youth was poorly served by those who were supposed to be his guiding lights. Too bad dear old dad couldn’t have enrolled him in a well supervised summer camp program, or asked a teacher how to get some help…or had any kind of parenting skills…
He's scared shitless
Dad has a GED ?? lolllllllll
@@TracyLindophe's bloodline is going out sad, but it won't be for nothing since this case will serve as an example for anyone who thinks about doing this
Kid is and always was a sociopath and there's no intervention that could have "helped" him
The co conspirator who provided the murder weapon happens to be the Dad instead of a fellow gang member. There is no parental exemption for conspiring to murder children.
Bet this family complains about the high cost of " everything " but thinks that buying a CHILD a weapon of war is in the family budget. Gobsmack!
Why would any father buy their troubled child a weapon of war after the FBI visited him and made him aware of the threats of violence? Why would any father name their son after a gun and then buy him a lethal weapon of mass destruction for his Christmas present? I am just gobsmacked that a grown man could be so stupid and irresponsible.
@@ronniemead805 I think he bought it BECAUSE of that FBI visit... Not because he wanted his son to go out and murder people, but because daddy had to prove to himself and the world (and probably the wife he was separating from) that he was right about the way he was raising his child. Obviously this is my conjecture. A cold, sick feeling in the pit of my stomach.
Fortunately for the daughters, the parents are separated and the son lives with the crazy father
@@1midnightfishI think you're exactly right!
@@elainedaprano9130 If the son had also been with his mother, this may not have happened though... I wonder if she even knew about the FBI visit. There may be a domestic abuse situation at the bottom of all this... and when she left, he kept the son to "turn him into his version of a "real man". These are all conjectures, and very painful things to be even considering, but with my multiple experiences of domestic abuse - as a child, adult, bystander, project worker and survivors group member - it feels horribly plausible.
Wow this moved extremely quickly
FINALLY!
Georgia has very relaxed gun laws. No safe storage laws, no red flag laws that would have allowed police to remove any weapons from that home.
The politicians are therefore complacent in this crime. Charge them as well.
Guess who's the congress representative of Georgia? MTG, the Kremlin puppet and fascist enthusiast.
Stupid comment
News flash- criminals tend to disregard laws.
With all that, exactly which law did dad break to be arrested?
the FBI is
I am 71 and was always lead to believe parents were responsible for their children's actions until the age of 18 so why are they now just starting to take this action
After he found this out? Not getting therapy for your child, perhaps finding alternative schooling for your child. This kid was a ticking time bomb, and he lit the fuse.
It proves the point that not all people are cut out to be parents. What do you think JD?
MOST people are not fit to be parents.
Great comment.
Bet he'd be the first to blame the teachers for his kid turning out be a menace.
Thats a FAST turn around on the charges and well decided. That judge needs to be in charge of the sour satsuma's cases.
Sour Satsuma. I like it. How about Tantruming Tangerine? Clueless Clementine? Moaning Mandarin?
@@ITALJUTE I Iike it!!! I'm for anything that calls him what he really is. However When I REALLY refer to his recent court challenges and call a spade a spade, YT Censors me so I have to chose my words carefully. Shame really. The press can say it in the video AND the video title, yet we type the same words.... we lose a life. speaking of..... lol
@@ITALJUTE THANK YOU for making me laugh, I needed it after this video (and yet another news overdose). Now please send these to your favourite late show host, they've got be said on air!
Needs to be a judge in Memphis, TN
Hey, I got this one from the Raw News And Politics channel: Apricot AntiChrist.
The dad is absolutely responsible for this massacre. Besides the dad Georgia is just as guilty. What kind of society allows the total removal of any and all gun safety laws from their books? Crazy! One month into the school year and the first of probably several of these tragedies has happened.
According to right wing beliefs, guns aren't the problem, people are.
Dad didn't pull the trigger, kid did.
Besides, in a country as gun happy as America, it wouldn't take long for the kid to find another gun.
The pattern seems to surface. ..election year, swing state, trouble teen. Medicated? Trans?
@@greyshepherd3456 So you're essentially saying that if something can't be entirely stopped, then taking steps to mitigate the issue to EVENTUALLY lessen it is pointless?
Good luck living life with that mindset...
@@holymoly271Really? You are saying this is a false flag?
@@holymoly271 nothing of what you said. Simply a MTG Maga's voter
I SEE GUN OWNERS ARE ALREADY DEFENDING THE FATHER!
I love that they are holding parents accountable for not being good parents now.
There's going to be a lot of arrests if being a bad parent is against the law. I'm shocked that dimocrats aren't concerned about Family separation.
He bought his 14 year son an AR-15 and should be held accountable especially as he knew his son had mental health issues,but something tells me his dad probably egged him on to do this, his dad seems mentally unstable as well.
You seem mentally unstable.
He went after his bullies.
What did he think a 14-year-old boy was going to do with an AR-15 go hunting rabbits and robins?
Or use it on himself? (Yeah I'm asking these questions too)
You don’t buy your child a gun like this period!
period ?
Period@@MochaMan.
Period ;
Why?
Maybe a single shot 410 or 20 gauge or even a bolt action rifle for hunting on trips with your father but not an AR that you can get to at anytime. Thats just stupid. All guns except the ones that your carrying on you as an Adult should be locked up.
Good! I hope this sticks and he's thrown in jail for the rest of his life.
The terrible parents taught their children to be awful teens. Both parents need to be charged.
The 14 yr old needs psychiatric care.
We all need to speak up
This kid fell through so many cracks
God Bless the people who lost their lives and God Bless the families 😢❤
180 years would be a good start.
Why does anyone not in uniform and under military command need an AR
Other countries do not have this problem
Coyotes...
Yeah other countries just jail you for posting an opionion critical of the government or social trends on the Internet. So much better!
@@jason4453quit asking stupid questions.
@@TheCossack Russia maybe.
@@TheCossack ?? That's like a handful countries out of 195 countries in the world. Most countries that are democracies are working just fine without guns for civilians.
Terrible parents. These parents are worse than the Crumbley parents.
This is not parenting. It is child abuse.
"What kind of parenting is this?" The NRA's America. The GOP's America. Fox News' America.
You're nuts people like you are completely completely nuts!!
Drumpf will pardon him and Proud Boyz will make him their honorary member.
💯
Read the comments at the news site you mentioned. Reveals the mindset. [Surprised YT didn't delete your comment for mentioning that news site.]
I don't think any reasonable republican would think a kid should have a rifle if they have a history of mental health issues. To say that is absolutely ridiculous.
Smart move for holding parents accountable. Finally they got it right BRAVO!! My condolences the family for their loss.🙏
It couldn’t be more self evident and stark. The child gunman is in the district of a congressman that shot an A.R. 15 as a solution to advance his argument. The kid did the same. His Dad agreed.
@@stevenewstart7918 Which congressman and what incident was this?
@@eh3477 Mike Collins
Not to mention MTGs 50 caliber weapon fetish.
You don’t enjoy the right if you cannot take the responsibility comes with it, how about that?
Many guys are doing this.
It makes the parents feel cool.
Good ole boy parenting.
Who buys an AR15 "like" gun for a 14 yr old?
YT parents
Probably a Trump supporter
A person who lacks critical thinking and fails good judgement
Maga
@@lucaolson9473you just described trump supporters!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Reckless and dangerous. We need to hold people accountable for bad parenting. This is a step in the right direction.
Cant.. Liberals made it normal.
What parents are being held responsible in the inner cities where homicidal crime is rampant in black neighborhoods like Chicago? Oh, that's right, they are given more welfare.
@@dennisnielsen8030whoosh
@@SteveRHanson Parents, regardless of color, should be held responsible.
@@jaehwan123 Exactly. But I only see democrats trying to demonize one demographic and try to blame all the problems in society on them. If a white person does it, it's the parent's fault, republicans fault, and the fault of those who want protect our rights to defend ourselves. Otherwise it's 'gun violence' and lack of 'equity'. No responsibility is placed on the culture or parents -- "It's the guns that are the problem''. The problem of Having armed Venezuelan gangs infiltrate our society and terrorizing American cities is NEVER blamed on the democrats who let them in in the first place. Having anti-west, islamists infiltrate our society is never a problem to democrats. Anyone who says this is a problem is 'bigoted and racist'.
Good. If more parents are held responsible, maybe they’ll raise their kids better.
This is JD Vance’s idea of the perfect family unit.
It’s the entire Rump/Hitler cult ideals
Sorta like all the blacks shooting each other up in the inner cities? That is the democrat perfect family unit.
So many parents are trying so hard to be buddies with their kids, instead of parents. Was visiting a neighbor's weekend party, and they were gleefully pouring the underage teens unlimited hard liquors like "Long Island Ice Teas". One of the teens already had a DUI, and suspended license. Hard to comprehend... Yes, the guns are way worse. Kudos to the great parents out there who are actually parenting.
"So many parents are trying so hard to be buddies with their kids, instead of parents." Agree; I've observed this a lot.
This is entire scenario is totally insanity.
Why does a 14 year old need an AR-15 style riffle???
He must be put away with his son forever, he knew that his son was unstable....
Um if it is not legal for a child to buy a gun, why is it legal for parent to give a child a gun? I am confused
I hope he's convicted on all charges. These people are insane buying kid's war weapons. 🤬 it's out of control. About time these parents are being charged.
The parent(s)should be charged! They created that monster.
He is officially charged, in jail and not on bail.
Rather sad, abortion was easiers to get back then, would have been no monster then
from birth; they called him by a gun name, Colt. This kid was so set up for failure from the get go.
Colin Gray is self-soothing by rocking back and forth.
Yes. Horrible knowing your kid is a psychopath and you gave hom the gun.
The father just robbed his son's entire life! Parenting is the hardest thing to do. If you are not good at being a parent don't have children
Agreed
With abortion rights gone in many states, millions of unwanted children will be born and thrust onto society. The horrors coming are just unbelievable.
But lets force others to have them because... reasons..
@@buckiesmalls But that's a feature, not a bug. They don't care if you're a good parent or not. In fact they probably prefer that you're not. That way they have more ignorant, dysfunctional citizens who are easily duped by propaganda, more slaves willing to fight each other for the crumbs of the wealthy overlords, more inmates for the for-profit prisons and more fodder for endless wars. They look at every dystopian novel as a how-to manual.
So it wasnt the sons fault????
Change your laws.
Jesus Christ! Don't you think we would if we were able to?!
We literally have members of the GOP walking around with an AR-15 lapel pin and are letting the NRA write gun laws! They have the AR-15 listed as a hunting rifle, when this thing has been the mass shooter gun of choice for years!
There will NEVER be a body count high enough for them to actually support gun control.
Agree
Who in their right mind gives an AR- 15 to a kid that made threats of gun violence. The father is definitely culpable
You could have stopped that sentence after 'kid'
It's not a mental health issue. Oftentimes, it's a culmination of bad parenting, raising children without boundaries, misguided adults who offer no guidance. or discipline.
Bad parenting can & does cause mental health issues.
Mental illness has become so broad that criminal suffers from mental illness.
@@Lillie-p1k So....being that most mass shootings are caused by white men. Can we conclude that A. White people have more mental health issues, or B. White people are bad at parenting? Why don't other races commit mass shootings at the rate white people do?
I agree its a mental issue that affects too many politicians, parents, and GOP voters
@@leetrott6809 no, it's a heart issue...and it's called corruption.
What you should be asking is what kind of violent society is this
HAHAHAHHA Welcome to Earth pal. It's a violent planet!!And dimocrats think hey are going to take away people's guns!!! NEVER HAPPEN!!
Many problems here. Access to weapons seems to be the biggest one ….
When informed his son had talked about committing a mass shooting, this father just denied the possibility his son said anything like that. Talk about wilful denial!
& then the father bought his 13yr old son an AR-15 6 months later! As if an AR-15 fixes all mental health issues in teens…
Now he is crying and rocking in deep distress.
When you are born to believe that guns are your birthright and tethered to your pursuit of happiness, you don't care about destroying the lives of others.
So you know the family and what beliefs they were teaching?
That’s not true. I was raised by a gun owning father. The guns were locked away in the 1960s. We were taught about the dangers and responsibilities of gun use and ownership. My dad was a trained marksman and hunter. He did not condone useless killing of animals and if my brothers killed an animal they had to eat it. I was allowed to hunt if I wanted but enjoyed skeet shooting not hunting. Except during the military, my dad did not use guns to influence or destroy human lived. He shot 2 rabid dogs to protect our community.
My FIL was a police officer and handled guns in the military and as a police officer.
Of the 8 children between the 2 men only 1 child owned guns though we all knew how to use them.
That same saying could used for its being believed that everyone deserves food and water. But kook at the garbage we eat and drink and we feed our families or what companies feed us. I don't see anyone getting mad that the food and drinks we buy in the store poison us, make our children dumb, makes us all fat so they can sell of Ozempic, etc. We don't know what the families believe was. A gun is a tool not a living life form. It's the fathers fault for all this. Buying his son a weapon AFTER the FBI sat down and talked to them!
…and you would recommend giving an adolescent boy…a weapon that an American serviceman would be warned never to use against civilians?
@@kenyonbissett3512 THAT IS YOUR STORY! It is OBVIOUSLY NOT the story in OUR reality today, sir!
When you aid and abet a mass murder you deserve to be charged.
Unless you are rich or in our government or in Israel then it's completely fine
This is even worse than the Crumbley case
How so??
@@gerisauls9689BC the father was interviewed by both the FBI & GBI about his son’s threats to schools 1 years ago. Then the father gave his son an AR-15 6 months later!
The Crumbleys are/were pretty terrible. They had a fairly long history of ignoring their kid's KNOWN mental health issues and even texted back and forth about it.... which helped then to get more jail time. Oh, and after hearing about the incident, they also abandoned their kid, extracted funds from bank accounts, and hid from LE for days. They were like cartoon parents, but worse.
Enabler Marge T Green should be charged.
Wonder if she will follow the victim’s parents around denying it happened
B6 will probably visit him in jail. Wait for it.
I'd be willing to bet this father is a MAGA supporter.
Is it illegal in Georgia? He watches Fox News and he probably thought he was being a Patriot teaching his son how to “hunt.” Maybe he could have taught him something else? What a country.
CNN and MSNBC sell hate every day. Brainwashing on how bad someone is. That's why that kid tried to shoot a past president. Hate and brainwashing
There's nothing wrong with being a patriot, and there's nothing wrong with teaching your kid how to hunt responsibly, it is a problem when you buy a 14-year-old AR 15 that's already on the FBI radar!! I don't think He should have an AR whether he's on the radar or not!! That's not a patriots habit!!
People should have to rent hunting guns at a forest preserve facility and return them when they're done.
The father is a perfect representation of a MAGA voter.
@bills.1951 did you take your estrogen today?
I'm a pro-2a conservative. Why would anyone buy a kid with mental health issues a firearm? My father raised me with them, but kept them locked up, with the actions removed. I wasn't allowed to possess a firearm by my father until I became an adult and was considered responsible. You are responsible for the irresponsible actions you take.
So well regulated.
Such militia.
'Where's Jackie ?"
Exactly! If they wanna get literal about the Constitution, let's get literal.
Hi. I'm no expert on the 2nd amendment, but it seems to me that it says that you have a right to own a gun in case one day you have to form a militia. That militia would have to be 'regulated', but the amendment doesn't seem to specify any regulation for actually just having a gun.
@nick5062 Yes, I came to that conclusion too. Our Founding Fathers knew what they were doing. This incident will be used to make one side in our upcoming election look bad, but we can't give up our rights because feckless morons have them too.
What a shame it would be if we had a natural disaster or foreign invasion and there were no guns to form a local militia.
"Dad, can I have an AR-15?"
"No."
Gee, that was easy.
if you don't want to have a child - then don't have one. If you don't know how to parent your child, ask for help. Not buy him a gun as a way to resolve whatever problems he's dealing with.