Why Didn't the Allies Declare War on the USSR when it Invaded Poland? (Short Animated Documentary)
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- As you'll know World War 2 (in Europe) began with Britain and France declaring war on Germany after it invaded Poland. But when the USSR invaded soon afterwards, the allies did nothing. But why? Why was there no declaration of war on the Soviet Union? Find out in this short and simple animated history documentary.
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Sources:
British Reactions to the Soviet Occupation of Eastern Poland in September 1939 by Keith Sword
POLAND IN BRITISH AND FRENCH POLICY IN 1939: DETERMINATION TO FIGHT-OR AVOID WAR? by ANNA M. CIENCIALA
Choosing Not to Choose in 1939: Poland's Assessment of the Nazi-Soviet Pact by MAREK KORNAT
The blue color in Poland's flag stands for loyal allies
Which it never possessed
There isn't any
*Oh wait, that's the jok-*
Well said, Britain is your friend & does have allies, 🇨🇦 Australia 🇦🇺 & New Zealand 🇳🇿, defo
Honestly in this case there wouldn't have been a scenario where Poland wouldn't be occupied. Even if they would have put enormous amount if troops in Poland, they would Just end up weakaning their armies, since Germany could have easily cut them off at Danzig. The polish government probably new this and with as it happened atleast they didn't cease to exist.
@@jahmah519 you all literally left them to die
I love how Europe does either A) full continental war that kills millions or B) write a strongly worded letter asking someone to stop committing atrocities
Churchill methods vs Chamberlain methods
@@TikkiYTLmao
So true though
@@TikkiYTGiga Chad Churchill Vs Weak Chamberlain
Satan USA is genocider and criminal in impunity
@@joaobran2712 ok
Poland: "Will you be by our side?"
Europe: "We will attend your funeral yes."
Poland: -_-
Ye europe pretty much treated us like shit
Poland: "Will you be by my side?"
NKVD: "It is now ouг siде, comaгaде"
Where else would pallbearers be.
@@megalodonek8377 Poland: again?
Europe: Always. Now go clean my bri'ish toilet
@@Unicalnetworksorry, man, but you better not write using cyrilic alphabet
"Also, they would've lost."
Sneaking that in there at the last possible second of the video lol
*France:* "Should we stop the Soviets invading Poland?"
*UK:* "Nah, maybe leave it. Something tells me that this cooperation between Germany and the Soviets won't last."
_[Germany and the Soviets start fighting]_
*UK:* "See, France, what did i te--- oh, you've been conquered."
Very true but I would hate to see what would have happened if Britain went to war against Germany and the ussr, with the out of date technology and lack of mechanical warfare capabilities from France and just the shier size of the ussr defeat would be inevitable and without the UK fighting the Germans anymore. The Nazis may have actually won the war in Europe and god knows what would have happened if the people of the USSR got to friendly with the Germans. Oh wait, boom invasion, now the whole of Europe is Nazi controlled. So I think the British made the best and only intelligent decision
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More like: France: *raises white flag when Poland gets invaded*
france: we are the super power and we are declaring war at germany ..
rommel and his friends : ok why not take a tour in Belgium ،😂
@@NorthCamZ There was an invasion of the saarland. The French saw that it was devoid of troops. Thought it was a trap and fucked off. If France decided to not refight the last war and be tramatised of trench lines they had a straight shot to Berlin cause everything was thrown at Poland and later Czechs.
When you didn't ask this before but you realise that it is a good question.
I swear I think that every time I see the title for a video from this channel
I researched this topic for a history paper.
That’s why I think this channel made a smart move in productions shorter videos answering very interesting and often overlooked questions about history, as opposed to the 10 minute summary videos of well-documented topics like he used to do. More videos and more interested viewers.
It's because of the cultural Marxists in the universities causing a nihilist approach to the Gulag Archipelago
If you never asked this question then your education has frankly failed you
The answer for this question is simple:
They didn’t want USSR to declare war on them as Nazi germany was strong enough alone
Nah it’s because friendly fire
Not like what you think.
The invasion of Poland was the whole pretext for declaring war in the first place, though. There was no WW2 prior to this.
Say sike
The Fckn Truth - They didn't help cuz they had Poland deeply in ass and they had no fckn balls. Also They probably thought that Hitler would leave uk and France alone.
I love how blissfully naive post ww1 Europe seemed
"we gave Poland independence, so there's no way foreign forces would invade! war problem = solved"
It was a meme lol poland had to fight with everyone around it to preserve itself with only france supporting it fron the start. And it was a diplomatic support only, when the polish-ussr war broke out every european govermnet was busy dealing with communists in their own countries like germany where they started a civil war awaiting the red army. Naive was to think hitler would stop but nobody was naive about poland. It is just realism. Extremly sad realism…
Maybe if you want to make a political statement, you should make it.
@@Timmerdetimmerdetim bro why are you trying to get upset about smth it's joke on how Poland gets invaded a lot relax with your keyboard warrioring
@@Czar_Moss There's nothing funny about Poland being invaded and nothing "to love" about it. Maybe we can agree on that at least?
@Tim Joye oh sorry too soon? 83ish years not enough time?
UK's Strongly worded letter:
*Dearest Joseph*
*The wasn't very nice of you*
*Best wishes,*
*Neville*
Pretty much the impact of the Munich Pact
I declare this to be a archive of the message
AznGuy Jr. when you stole that reply
Copied
I wish it was written: " That wasn't very COMRADE of you"
France and Britain: “Some of you may die. But that’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make.”
What were they supposed to do?
@@rowmagnvs Honour their part and attack Germany maybe? Instead of just sitting on there for nine month just to get overrun in six weeks.
Paul There were offensive plans and the allied planning board basically got turned upside down when the Soviet Union invaded Poland because it was assumed the Polish army could stand up to Germany for a year
@@haldir3120 Considering how well France and the UK did together in defense of France and fact that the only UK had somewhat up to date air force and an expeditionary force of a limited number, that would not end very well even when looking at Wikipedia numbers may suggest otherwise...
French actually somewhat invaded Germany (few km) but they stopped before the German defensive line, again, their army was not built for some coordinated deep penetration operations (lack of radios in their thick but slow poorly designed tanks making some pincers encirclement unrealistic against better-equipped fast German armor which was able to reposition within a week from attacking poorly equipped Poland, limited French logistics for adequate supply chain during the attack, etc.). Neither French WW2 air force was something legends being written about and Germans would fear of... The only possible way of French/UK invasion being sufficiently protected was if the UK would send all its fighter planes to French airfields at the expense of leaving the UK undefended and open for the Nazi medium bomber attacks...
SHREKIN
I love the funnyparts you add to the videos. “…harshest measures known : a strongly, worded letter“. I laughed out loud every single time you drop one of these nuggets into your videos!
This guy is the king of answering questions no one thought about
one answer
*Distant War
* modifier
It was defensiv though (*distant war* is only for an agressiv call to arms)
actually france and britain were 432845 ducats in debt
Dishonored Call to Arms Noises
@@thomasfazey5755 The AI don't get dishonoured call to arms though.
@@markhenley3097 It was mp though
Allies: “we aren’t going to start a war with soviets even if it is justified because they’re insanely powerful and we are already engaged on other fronts.”
Axis: “so anyways I started blasting”
@nickys34 Poland was a country for a long time before WWI, until partitions of Poland happened.
Check a map of languages in 1937 poland, the ukrainian and belarussian areas HEAVILY overlaps with what the USSR invaded. This is because the land they conquered back WAS the area poland opportunisitcally took mid civil war
@nickys34 pretty sure Poland existed from the 10th century till 1795, which is before ww1
@OVOD.net 1. Poland did not capitulate by the time soviets invaded.
2. Just like Russian Empire illegally annexed this land from Poland-Lithuania during partitions of Poland.
3. Poland did not ally with Germany, Zaolzie that you're talking about was invaded and annexed by Czechs during polish-soviet war.
@OVOD.net Poland actually never officially capitulated, the government went in exile in the UK, so the ussr invaded Poland.
Sneaking in “Also..they’d have lost” at the end. 😂
Also, they were actually drawing up plans to bomb the Caucus oil fields after the USSR's poor performance against Finland. Though, as you might know, the USSR's poor performance against Finland was noticed by someone else who acted first.
Operation Pike, it was called. Documents about the plan were captured by the Germans in France and leaked by the Nazi press.
"They both felt that Poland was entirely lost"
... that's funny, because Poland's national anthem is entitled 'Poland is Not Yet Lost"
This defines a bruh moment
Poland: "I'm not dead yet"
German anthem: "We are the best"
Polish anthem: 'We are not the worst"
There is no “yet” there. This would suggest that poles are awaiting their demise.
“Poland is not dead,
while we are alive”
2 of the strongest world powers double teaming you without a condom, what else can you expect lol
something something James bizanet
Football Stat’66 lol ikr
Rob Waterhouse
Football Stat’66 don’t forget Winston kayword (yeah, yeah, it’s probably spelled wrong)
Izzy?
Spinning 3 Plates
I love your videos! So concise and informative, and the animations are so cute!
80 years later, nothing has changed.
"We will not stand by when a nation launches an unjustifiable invasion upon its neighbor!"
"Oh, great, this mean you will at least put sanctions on Saudi Arabia and Tu..."
"No, we only meant Russia."
Tu?
@@Cosmic_Potato7 Turkey.
The realpolitik reigns supreme
@@asnekboi7232 I dream of a day when equal rules and the common good prevail over narrow interests. But today is not that day.
@@nikolatasev4948 then you shall dream till the sun consumes the earth
One of the reasons:
- *World Tension was just below 24%* 😂
Wow.
hoi 4 reference was not excepting that
Another reason: Germany formed the Berlin-Moscow Axis
Another reason: Fascists came to power in the US and Brazil invaded all of South America and is now a beligerent super power.
@@lolmanmagee2785 honestly i was there jokes appear everyehere on ww2 videos lol
“This is like the fourth time.” As a Pole myself, this cracks me up.
we should have learned by now, that either we'll be strong enough ourselves, or with very strong REAL ties to our allies, or we'll be doomed AGAIN.
I didn't get it. Wasn't it the second time?
@@ooi97 prussia, austria and russia ganged up on poland in past when it was polish-lithuanian commonwealth 3 times
@@cristianokiki1486I think all three partitions of Commonwealth should be counted as first time. But later there were Duchy of Warsaw and Kingdom of Poland (Congress Poland), which were semi-autonomous Polish states. Moreover Free City of Cracow and Grand Duchy of Posen (to some extent) may also be counted.
@@kristupas_ they were 3 diferent times and I think not all 3 partutions had all 3 states
I have been asking myself that for a while now, thank you for clearing thinks up.
Very good video. I was wondering this for centuries.
I talked to a Brit way long time ago, like in the early 1990's. He said, growing up in school, kids are taught the primary goal of England's foreign policy is "don't ever let anyone unify the continent." Meaning, if any continental power becomes strong, side with their weaker opponents. When Spain was strong, Britain supported Spain's opponents. When Napoleon popped up, Britain supported France's opponents. When Germany got strong, you have to support Germany's opponents, which happened to include the USSR. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend, for now" - perfectly applied.
That's the reason for Brexit, now I get it, thanks
I forgot how this video is titled, but this is actually true. There's a video from a UK satire show from the 2000s where they laugh about the idea of the UK quitting the EU. And the actor playing the diplomat said: "we joined the EU to destabilize it from within, and then we're going to quit to destabilize it again. Our centuries-old foreign policy of never letting the continent unite."
This view is *very* engrained in English society.
NATO is slowly unifying the continent - what will happen then I wonder?
@@mar07in scary guessing game you got in your hands.
@@oliversmith7130 No, brexit was due to stupidity and politicians taking advantage of eurosceptism to make a few pennies for themselves.
I’m currently reading the Rise and Fall of the Third Reich. This was actually one of the biggest questions I had going into the book. Basically, the last thing the allies wanted was to be at war with anyone other than Germany.
It's kind of hard to fight two front Wars ask Hitler
well it shows that the didnt care about poland (which is obv if you look at what happened after ww2) and simply wanted to quash germany again
It's almost as if it was another global conspiracy to shut down an ideology and economy that didn't have international finance's best interests at heart...
Western Unity the USSR invaded Poland afterwards...
@Western Unity I was going to read it myself when I found out about the backlash against Shirer. I was very disappointed. I still have A World at Arms by Weinberg though, and that was a great read.
Sweet and succinct. And better than 100 pages of lofty articles for class.
That betrayal of Poland was so awful.
Poland: pls help we're being invaded
UK: that sounds like a "you" problem
lol so true
British empire losses 500,000 casualties. Thats enough help considering the uk and her allies can have peace with the germany but didnt
Actually the opposite Bud Look up operation unthinkable Britain always had the end goal of defeating Germany then moving on too the ussr
Actually its the opposite. Britain started WW2 by defending Poland. UK declined 27 peace appeals from Nazi Germany. Investigate the Rudolf Hess incident. Where he tried to negotiate peace with Britain only to get arrested and killed by them
@@serenityssolace Facts. The Anglos were the main warmongers here. Starting a war they eventually needed Americans to finish for them.
"Britain and France didn't intervene when the Soviet Union invaded Poland because they felt that Germany and the USSR were going to turn on each other and the Soviets would be a valuable ally against Germany."
Well, they weren't wrong.
The only part they weren't counting on was France getting its ass kicked in a matter of seconds
@@DiegoDiaz-vm9xx yeah that part wasn't supposed to happen
How did this help the Poles?
@@limes194 Who said it was about the poles?
@@makky6239 well poles are good for holding up a Soviet flag and after the war a lot of poles could be made
UK betraying his allies whenever its good for them is almost as classic as Italy changing sides.
Tell the 300,000 Polish ex-service personnel who were granted UK citizenship in 1946 after the theft of their Polish hmoelands by communism.
@@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684 You mean after refusing helping them on a war they promised to help? Cool
@@gonyx4 Where do you get the idea that "help was refused", when the fact is Britain was UNABLE to help at such short notice? Do you naively believe that countries maintain ruinously expensive standing armies, ready at a moment's notice to spring into action anywhere in the world?
Britain and France reacted as quickly as they could to mobilise their armies to the surprise assault on Poland on 1st Sept 1939.
The British Royal Navy IMMEDIATELY instigated the "North sea blockade" that had effectively strangled Germany out of WW1.
The RAF did not have the range to attack nazi forces in Poland and refused to bomb the German mainland as they did not want to spread the war but contain Germany. Though they did IMMEDIATELY attack German naval units at sea.
The British army IMMEDIATELY initiated the transfer of its regular army units to France as the BEF (British Expeditionary Force). By Dec 1939 it had just 3 full strength divisions ready in France. It took till April 1940 for us to assemble 10 full divisions and 3 reserve divisions on the borders of Belgium. Poland had collapsed after 5 weeks. What exactly do you think those 10 British divisions in April 1940 would be able to do against the +140 Wehrmacht divisions then stationed on the western front?
The French army, which was by far the largest of the two nations (and indeed in Europe), bungled its own incompetent mobilisation. It conscripted so many of its population that it temporarily crippled its own economy, and had to release countless thousands of soldiers to man her factories again.
You seem ignorant of the fact that if it hadn't been for the British & French declaration of war in 1939, regardless of their inability to give meaningful support to Poland in its "hour of need", or if the UK had surrendered in june 1940 after the collapse of France (as the ENTIRE world expected us to) then Poland would have remained under nazi domination for DECADES. Remember that apart from Britain and France (who between them collectively squandered 1.1 million of their own citizen's lives, bankrupted themselves as nations, and ended up losing their empires) absolutely NO ONE ELSE in the so called "international community" raised a finger or cared whether Poland existed or not in 1939.
Without the continued opposition of the British empire to nazism from June 1940 onwards, opposition which bankrupted the UK and cost her 460,000 of her citizen's lives, there would have been:
NO D-Day and war in the Meditteranean to draw sizeable wehrmacht resources from the war on the Eastern Front.
NO strategic bombing of German cities and war industries.
NO interdiction of German global sea trade by the Royal Navy.
NO massive supply of weapons and war materiel from the west to the USSR, once their former allies nazi Germany had turned on them.
NO utterly crucial strategic intelligence courtesy of Britain's (not Poland's before you say it) "ULTRA" program.
With the result that the USSR would have collapsed somewhere in 1942/43, leaving the nazis in control of the whole of Europe, and their extermination camps still operating on Polish soil into the 1950s, 60s, or even 70s.
Great video
For a second, I read that as why didn't aliens declare war on ussr.
Same, that would have been a fun video.
This isn't the Worldwar Series
I have dyslexia and I often have little fun things like that. I once read a scifi book that dealt with the genetic slave trade, which I misread as the _geriatric_ slave trade, an economic model I still struggle to conceptualize to this day.
I think I played a video game about this once.
Why would they? The Soviets would probably be the aliens' best customers, if they were diplomatically inclined; they had some of the biggest reserves of raw resources (human and otherwise), but relatively little industry.
Soviet Union: helps invade Poland Allies: I’ve never met this man in my life
He could be walking down the street and I wouldn't know who this man is
@@Abdul54cp i've always found hilariusly dark how the URSS will lose every offensiver war they went and win every defensive war they got.
@@Abdul54cp And its also the area russia took from poland in the partitions of poland 1772-1795,so poland just "took it back" in 1921
You can play this game endlessly
Gleb B. / Глеб Б. The Soviets took Ukraine so the poles took the parts of Ukraine they captured after pushing the Soviets out. Much of which was actually technically diplomatically given to Poland after the the border war and Soviets invaded in return for help against to Soviets which they did. The poles helped liberate the capital and as part of the agreement went back to defend there own country.
Well...tbh, there was nothing they could do about it, Russia was just to far away, and to get to it, they would have to go through Germany, which they couldn't, as Germany would win the war if they wouldn't have had to worry about the USSR (70-80% of the German forces were stationed at the Eastern front on average during the war, and 9/10 German casualties were suffered on that very same front during the war against the Soviets), and could have had focused all of their military might on the Western front!
Right at the end he says "Also, they would have lost'.
The " Your Mother " sign should not have made me laugh as hard as it did
Same.
Me too
Joining the "+1" conga line.
I missed it. When was it?
@@NoNameAtAll2 1:51
2:38
Poland 1919-1939
'This was like the fourth time'
Lol 🤣
Poland is now part of nato, and I'm SURE that everyone will go to war to protect Poland and the Baltic republics this time.
@@ronmaximilian6953 better not to rely on that fact
@@DrPacman I was being sarcastic
@@ronmaximilian6953 yeah I know
Every nation want to partition Poland.
It has been long thought that General Sikorski the Polish Prime Minister in exile had an agreement with Churchill that the Allies would retake Poland from the Russians. However Churchill reneged on the deal and had General Sikorski assassinated.
I know Sikorski's plane crash is VERY suspicious, but is there any proof of link to Churchill or bri'ish government found yet?
Why is youtube recommending me this right now.
Poland: Is conquered by two strongest nations in the world
Allies: Attacking 3 km into Germany
People: why didn't the allies invade the Ruhr area in 1939?
Me: Hindenburg line with thousands of bunkers, trenches, barbed wire and land mines.
@@makeromaniagreatagain9697 isnt hindenburg line ww1 thing?
@@makeromaniagreatagain9697 it would've been better of they did invade, isn't it better to wage war on enemy soil rather than your own? France saw what happened to their country in WW1 and plus they had twice as many divisions, Britain and France had more manpower and rescources to draw on, while yes Germany did have the support from USSR, but it was a matter of time before they would invade a weakend Germany, exhausted by the war with the Allies.
@@sandrosaladze8095 I think it's mainly two points 1. Both wanted to end it diplomatically instead of a great war again (hindsight is 20/20) and 2. Both weren't really prepared for a large war.
But why should they have died for Danzig? What did the Poles offer in return? You act like Poland , a nation that hasnt existed for hundreds of years ( without france or britain caring about it ) was suddenly worth millions of french and british lives. You know what they also could have done? NOT declaring war on Germany in 39 and just let germany and the ussr restore the old european borders. The Poles should be grateful , but all i ever see are bitchin poles asking why the french and british soldiers didnt wanna die for them.
Well looks like they didn't polish the agreement terms.
*GET OUT* ❗
[badum tish]
@@PANZERFAUST90 you do realize that you did finnish the joke, right?
😂😂😂
Why are they Russian so much to defeat Germany?
I love your show
I kept waiting for the line "France and the UK thought the USSR and Germany would inevitably start to fight each other but fun fact... yes"
Dirty politics. Churchill wanted war wit Germany. Lied to his people.
0:55: The French MILITARY was conducting its own secret diplomacy? God, the Third Republic was screwed up....
As previously stated in past videos, *French politics* at the time could be summed up as *"...a dumpster fire."*
Yeah, even if France HADN'T fallen in 1940 and knocked out Hitler early on, the Third Republic still would've fallen and gotten replaced by a hopefully more effective government.
@@navilluscire2567 I would call it really the 1st *Nuked Politics* but i remember that the Byzantines and the Romans were a thing so yeah its politics were fucky.
@@navilluscire2567 So much so there were genuine fears of a civil war after France was liberated. It was one reason why the British weren't keen on helping the French resistance too much, they were worried arms given to French militias to defeat the Nazis would be used to kill other French people after they had gone.
Andrew Klang it’s called the Third Reich not the third republic
Poland: "Ummm. We are being taken over by the Soviets. Can we get a little help, please?"
Allies: "How do you define "taken over?" Give us a half century to contemplate the meaning"
Gotta love the long game
It was a very smart strategy from Britain in France.
It's not widely known, that in 1937-39 Poland was very close to joining the Axis. They had some common interest, as Poland was interested to re-take some lands taken by Czechoslovakia in 1920 and searched for support in defending itself against the USRR, which was considered by Poland to be the greatest threat. In 1937 USRR executed over 100 000 polish citizens that lived within its borders and the last war ended just 18 years earlier in 1921. Hitler tried to convince Poland to join him and from his perspective, asking only for Danzig was a very modest proposal (his fanatics wanted to regain all of western Poland, Hitler seemed like a moderate next to them). Poland however had a very honorable (and somewhat dumb) government that had quite unrealistic opinion on it's own military capabilities. Morale was sky high especially since Poland the last war with USSR. Still, many factions within the polish parliament considered siding with Germans.
This is when UK and France step in and give Poland an additional morale boost: They guarantee Polish independence. With that promise and having WW1 in mind, Poland decided that it's safe to refuse Hitler and fight. The result was Poland losing 25% of it's population and 50% of its pre-war territory, along with total destruction of its industry, agriculture and cultural heritage.
UK and France gained a year and then got what they counted on - the German invasion of USSR.
Poland having an unrealistic opinion of its own military? That could never be.
Poland never was close to join axis. Actually was always identifying Nazie Germans as mortal threat. That's why Proposed France and UK war against Hitler in 1933. At that time Poland could win alone but there was no approval. Later history shoved ho had right.
That is the biggest bullshit i ever saw on youtube...
I don’t see how they would be even able to fight both super powers at the same time without collapsing on themselves. I mean France didn’t even survive a whole year against Germany, it would’ve been suicide to attack both at the same time
At that point nobody could have expected that but if you have more then 2 Braincells, you might come to the conclusion that having Germany, Italy (Allied to Japan) and the Soviet Union against you might be an unwinnable war
Poland still fought on tho
Seeing the USSR as a "superpower" is an anachronism and was very much not the case back then, it was seen as a backwater state with no real power. The real reason to not declare war was : Why ? Like seriously, why declare war on a country with which you have no fronts against...
Britain and France planned to help Finland against the Soviet Union, by asking to move troops through neutral Norway and Sweden, and also backstabbing Sweden and taking the country over while doing so. No surprise Sweden and Norway refused.
@@markhenley3097 Never heard something like this... Do you have any sources ?
Love Poland's tombstone at 2:38
One of those countries that never catches a break
@Alenas Kvasninas didn't ally
@Alenas Kvasninas You should know, that Poland wasn't ally of Hitler in 1938, Poland also didnt split Czechoslovakia in half when they were at the middle of bloody defence of their own country. Whatever Poland retook lands, wich were guaranted to her in Versaille and wich Czechoslovakia took by invasion in 1920.
This is very bad example of Poland as a bad neighbor to others, especially that Czechoslovakia has been sold by whole western in 1935, and did nothing in their defence in 1937/8 when Germany took most, most of their country.
Much better example wich is unjustified blame of Polish government was 1922 and Żeligowski action for wich Polish government never said sorry, and as many dumb polish nationalist don't see a reason for sorry.
Whatever it is still not justification to Soviet Union to pull knife into polish back, annex 3 baltic states and stay as well in Poland and those countries for the next 50 years. And later attack on Finland.
It was an agressor, not the first time, and hope Im totally wrong, but still is.
But never gonna happen again. 🇺🇸🤜🏼🤛🏻🇵🇱
@@Tmb1112 lol
These and other similar questions I also had. I found out how intricate and complex they are. They are a minefield that keeps changing and very hard to nail down . Wording is everything. It always bothered me watching other countries stand by while a small a countty was attacked. Until I was educated on the mindfields associated with Treaties, all kinds. Knowing about how they work makes reading about war's, conflicts and peace treaties basically, all Treaties better understood and enjoyed. I'm still learning never done. History is our PPF, past, present and future. The most important message from history is, if not examined, domed to repeat it. ✊☘️
That’s why Hitler wanting peace with Britain was doomed to fail. It’s like asking snake to not change colour. Britain would have to change their approach entirely.
Germany was strong hard on power but an amateur compared to Britain in divide and rule tactic.
England and france would of got smashed by Germany and Russia
Good vid.
Germany invades Poland
Allies: now this is an Avengers level threat
USSR invades Poland
Allies: you werent supposed to do that
bad USSR! That's a bad USSR!
Stalin offered an anti facist coalition and both france and briitian refused
The USSR only took back land stolen from them by Poland a few years before.
Reddit has ruined TH-cam comments.
@@SimonAshworthWood this is pure bullshit
What the polish flag means,
Red: blood givin for the country
White: freedom
Blue: truthful allies
How to fix Polish flag ? Easy, you need to add blue duct tape between white and red =)
@@user-yk2xb1ti2w Then it would be a lie.
@@user-yk2xb1ti2w now I know how to destroy Russia. Simply tear off the blue duct tape. Thank you.
Lmao no
That dutch flag
I loved this history lesson
02:38 i dont know if it is a clear paraphrase of the first lines from polish national anthem (that is "poland is not yet lost") but if yes, you do a really good job not only in research, but also in writing a script to these videos
Germany: **invades to Poland**
Allies: War time!
Soviet Union: Suprise *suka* ! - *said it and invades in East Poland*
Allies: Not war time.
"War time!"
Phony war time!
Well, was it Poland or Germany territory they invaded at that point?
@@GewalfofWivia It was Poland territory at that point in time.
Dude
Suka means Like in Indonesian
I just learned that in 2003
@@dnocturn84 Poland didn't have a government and millitary, so no.
Basically France and Britain
“Some of u will die, so we can be partners with the Soviets”
“But that’s a sacrifice I’m willing to take”
Edit: Guys it was just a joke if you do watch the video it does mention how Poland was left out to die and due to this fact it made it easier for the Soviet Union to do its thing
Edit 2: somehow the joke about leaving Poland to die with a Shrek reference has gone into how Britain and France committed atrocities before the war and Napoleon’s strength in his time period god I love the internet
Well, no, more would have died had they declared war.
That's completely the wrong way
France and Britain didn´t have the manpower to fight Germany and the Soviet Union at the same time. They had no other choice and in hindsight we can see that their theory was right.
Edit: Germany and Napoleon couldn´t defeat Russia. How should the Allies beat both at the same time?
Lol the Soviet Union tried throughout the 30’s to make an anti-Nazi pact with the West but they refused
"He huffed and he puffed and he signed the eviction notice"
It would be interesting to know how (the wording of public statements) the UK and French Governments explained this obvious double standard to their peoples. Or was the fact of the USSR invasion of Poland kept secret by both Governments whilst they screamed blue murder about the German invasion?
No one denied it, but the UK had no binding agreements to protect Poland from the USSR so it's not really double standards just politics. That being said I'm sure the allies would have reacted if they hadn't just fcked up their entire country and economies, lost millions of citizens, and anyone had any stomach left for war.
Yes, the last part. I never heard any of this until I worked with Polish people in the mid 2000s. I then realised the UK doesn't talk about Russia, at all, ever.
It's like we pretend they don't exist
There were debates in the UK press and parliament at the time in a limited way. Churchill was very sorry after the war for the betrayal.
2:12 ... Yeah, I bet it played out exactly that way for them over the next few months, too.
"Strongly worded letter"
Dearest Joseph Stalin
That wasnt very nice of you
Best wishes Neville
*Savage*
Someone ripped off your comment and got 400 likes :/
Words cannot express how truly obliterated on the inside I feel -Stalin probably lol
@@spicyleaves8876 even the copied comment was copied.
"We are going to send you a very angry letter telling you how angry we are"
Oversimplified is written all over this video. Great work. A new generation.
A wise man once said "One enemy at a time."
"Also, they would have lost" My exact thoughts 😅😅
@Uproar01 USSR won decisively.
@@kainuu3157 Stalingrad begs to differ.
@Uproar01 watch til the very end of the video homie.
@i get it THEY WOULD'VE LOST EITHER WAY, THERE IS PROOF, GERMANY WAS NOT GOING TO WIN, WITH OR WITHOUT SNOW, THE RUSSIAN LAND IS SIMPLY TOO BIG TO CONQUER.
No, they wouldn’t have
Not when the Americans got involved
Poland: "Let me tell you a story about bad neighbors."
@Alenas Kvasninas say what?
@Alenas Kvasninas poland got a tiny piece of czechoslovakia, where poles were (and still are) majority. It wasn't agreed with germany or sth, they just took it anyway. Czechoslovakia was gone either way.
So what? It wasn't spring good or bad. It was about strong and weak
@@diurpaneustv2166 Yes thats True, but you forget to say that few years before this happend with "Zaolzie" Czechoslovakia cheated the poles and took this piece when Poland was fighting aganist soviet russia and save all Europe from communism
So, when poles have a chance they Just took what was stold from them
Thats how it was
Because they were serving the same masters.
The big nosed masters
Room temp IQ
Poland: * starts existing again *
Its neighbours: *How about no*
Poland was also not very nice to its neighbours just look what they did to Czechoslovakia in 1938
USSR: Violates Poland
Allies: That wasn’t very nice
Poland, Lithuania, Finland, Latvia, Estonia*
Meanwhile Britain and France's imperial empires control a third of the globe.
But Germany wanting Danzig back was just too much.
Steve in essence you’re right. However, this was a case of German crazy hostility within Europe. If a power was raging war in say Africa(Ethiopia and Italy) those powers wouldn’t care at all.
>wanting your land back
>"crazy hostility"
Okay.
Steve uhuh uhuh
>invading Austria
>invading Czechoslovakia
>being a literal dictator who’s planning on killing jews
@@Imperium83 you mean being a sore loser
You forgot one important thing: the allies did not declare war on ussr as it was not as much of a rival to Britain and France. The treaty between UK and Poland shows that it was only about eliminating germany as a rival and not about Polands security.
Well, the USSR was a country with an ideology hostile to the west. They also slowly expanded into Eastern Europe and send supplies and equipment to Mao in China in an atempt to support communist revolutionaries. I believe the allies had every reason to hate the USSR.
nazi much?
@@makeromaniagreatagain9697 The Entente (The Allies) already invaded Russia to fight the Bolsheviks in the 1920's and failed to stop them from coming to power, once the USSR was stopped by Poland it ceased to really be a major threat to British or French interests in Europe. Once Stalin consolidated power, the Soviet Union also became less aggressive for the time being.
Nazi Germany was, correctly, gauged to be a far more immediate threat to both French and British interests in Europe.
Poland was just an excuse, its not like France and Britain care about any thing but themselves, although thats understandable
@@franciscor.m.8003 well, they could have declared war on Germany when Germany re-armed, re-militarized the Rhineland, demanded Czechislovakia or when they occupied Czechia and made Slovakia a puppet state.
Impressive. An episode about Entente's involvement in the demarcation of borders between the Soviets and Poland that doesn't mention the Curzon line :s
Bit at the end cracked me up. "plus, they would've lost". The real reason.
I lost everything on "This is like the fourth time" on Poland's gravestone LMAAAOO
69th like
I love that nice little piece at the very end
"Also, they would have lost"
Fair play HM, fair play
Props for showing the Polish military cap with its distinct point element.
What about a fact that these territories have been taken from USSR 15 years yearlier?
Today those territories are part of Ukraine and Belarus
1:24 they didn't have to declare war on germany either.
They didn't have to, but allowing a tyrannical megalomaniac run around and do what he wants destroying the balance of power is not going to end well. Love your vids btw
@@piggysew797 yet they were perfectly fine with destroying europe and giving the power to russia and america?
@@piggysew797 ...u talking about stalin?
The Soviet Union and Stalin killed more people than the big bad moustache man could've ever hoped to.
@@wallachia4797 or had the intention to
Also, declaring war on a second massively powerful country when you're already engaged in a life-or-death struggle with the first one would be idiotic. Although in fairness, Japan somehow failed to realise this when, after a decade of attrition war against China they decided "Maybe declaring war on the USA will improve our chances of victory."
Previously pissing the Soviets AND Mongols off, definetly didnt help their situation. Its also worth noting that the Pacific was and still is quite a goldmine. So its not like Japan had no reason to go there. China fought them to a standstill, the Russians crushed them before and the only way they could expand is by kicking out Colonial Powers like the Netherlands or France, which were all busy thanks to Germany
@@elseggs6504 It is the other way around, Japan crushed Russia before.
@@mdaniel5384 Japan crushed Russia so hard at Kalkhin Gol that they retreated, signed a non-aggression pact and didnt bother taking their pacific coastline.
Edit: in case you're too dense, its sarcasm
@@elseggs6504 I was talking about the Russo-Japanese war, not about a border conflict.
I looked at the numbers involved in the conflict you mentioned and the casualties. That is supposed to be a crushing win by the Soviets?
@@mdaniel5384 It scared Japan enough to shift their focus towards the Pacific instead of helping Germany out.
This all sounds very familiar. Almost like we are watching history repeat itself once again.
The post credits line cracked me up
"That's like, the fourth time."
Which is great and awful joke reference at the same time.
It's 5 time . 4 was after the Napoleonic Wars where Russia , Prussia and Austria divided Duchy of Warsaw
@@pachacutiincayupanqui2239 6 times the charm. Becasue obviously its going to happen. As sun rises after the night, so does Poland get invaded, that is the rule of nature. There's been 273 separate wars in Poland's history. At least, i probably missed some.
@@pachacutiincayupanqui2239 let's say 4th. Duchy of Warsaw wasn't really independent
Legit every time I see this guy upload I get gassed, legit only thing I enjoy watching during lockdown, keep it up ❤️
No pun intended 👀😂
Legit?
Try Sam O'Nella academy. Guy makes hilarious videos about various, generally history-related things.
Britain pushed forward with the harshest measures known, a strongly worded letter.
Me: this sounds oddly similar to something
1:49 History Matters is at its best when one side is holding a sign saying "Your mother" toward the other.
Britain and France - sacificing allies for their own interest since 1938
Feels Czech/Polish/Yugoslavian/Romanian man
Did you not watch the video? lol
@@UM96lol well Romania was not even invaded and the british was busy helping Greece to help Yugoslavia especially with multiple countries invading it
@Tattle Boad you missed the point - the point being is that western allies lost the first half of the war exactly because they tried to be those 'intelligent, cold and calculated' opportunists, who did not even use their allies, they let them fall and go for not even a gain for the allies themselves
To be fair, The Yugoslavs were planning on helping the axis until they decided to have a civil war
2:38 "This is like the fourth time" killed me
it's really grotesque when you actually consider the real history behind that joke
@@mjm3091 Yes History was harsh with Poland (and by history I mean it's neighbors)
Suffering Poland
TY 🙏
I have ascended to reading captions with History Matters voice level
"Also they'd have lost" lmao true
You found that too, huh
@ Craig Noneman ,
I don't think so . The Russians were stubborn fighters , that's true. But remember , the only reason that they were able to fight the Germans was because the U.S, was supplying Russia with military equipment. The Russians were not able to manufacture it themselves.
@@donaldmiller8629 meh, late into war soviet manpower would overwhelm france and britain
@@andrewlorenzo6611 ,
Without U.S. supplies that would not happen. Just ask the Hungarians what happened when they tried to fight the Russian tanks with pitchforks and garden hoes. It means , you lose !
@@donaldmiller8629 well you also kinda have to remember that hungary is relevantly smaller than Germany, soviet union, uk etc
I'd like to know, to what degree were they really at peace with the USSR to begin with?
This is something I'm not sure about, but I know that Brittan, France and the United States all sent forces to attack the Soviet Union as soon as it came into existence, and afterwards, treated it largely as a pariah state. Did the Western Allies even have full diplomatic ties to severe, with Moscow, in 1939?
If i am not mistaken the Allies refused to recognize the USSR until the 1930's
Stalin had tried and failed to create an anti-fascist pact with Britain prior to the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, but they Allies would do very under-the-table trade with the newly heavily industrialized Soviet Union. Prior to WWII, Soviets also had a rather large population so no relatioms would've been stupid, but the everyday people(especially the British people) could never know this, as communism exists to topple existing power structures(especially Monarchies). So yes, but they weren't friends and Russia couldn't try to be.
Strix no we (the British) recognised them in 1924
They saw the USSR as both a threat and an asset. Ideologically, the USSR was their greatest enemy, but militarily Russia/USSR could keep Germany in check.
The anti fascit pact contained similarities of the molotove ribbentrop pact like control of the baltics and poland although they were not clearly defined
We need to remember, when first time our "allies" chickened out, exactly in 1932, when Marshal Józef Piłsudski was ready to intervention in Germany to overthrow Hitler on that time German army was much weaker than polish. Polish army was ready to attack but guess what France disagreed, antyhing what happend after 1939 was fault of our allies, we Poles owe nothing to France or Great Britain, which sold us to the Soviets for 44 years. Our war ended after we overthrew from the occupant of Russia.
France also refused to help Czechoslovakia despite signing a defence agreement with them.
"Some of you may die, but that is a sacrifice I am willing to make."
The reason why the allies didn’t declare war on the USSR was simple...
No one declares wars anymore as you explained in a previous video.
that's a tad later, when UN became a thing
I know I was just joking
Noise
Poland: Nooo you cant just leave me to die like this!
Britain and France: Haha Poland go by by
Not really as the polish government went to the uk anyway
@@bernardyoung7014
Yea but did they really give a shit about the Poles? No. They demonstrated this clearly during the Warsaw uprising and during the negotiations.
@@project22-ab88 what do you think uk and france supposed to do, poland is km away from britain.
@@mann536 Poles didn't have that problem at Monte Casino and in Berlin and in a couple of other places...
@@mann536
Yet at the time the UK had the best Navy in the world. They had enough power to reach Norway, but not Poland?
And why they didn't declare war when Poland participated in dividing of Czechoslovakia in 1938? )
Because it was Polish territory, and Czechia just allowed it.
@@d.k8257 USSR also took their own territory from Poland in 1939.
@@gfan83 Nope, it was never theirs. they also legally handed it over to poland in the 1917 treaty of brest livotsk
@@d.k8257 It was territories of Russian Empire wich Poland occupied in 1921.
@@gfan83 Nope
Britain and France-"Some of you May Die, But it's a Sacrifice I am Willing to Make"
Poland: * Calls for help *
Germany and USSR: *BUT NOBODY CAME*
The Polish government: Aight time to exile
@Alenas Kvasninas well england and france supported hitler
@Alenas Kvasninas btw.
Poland fights Bolsheviks
Poland: calls for help
Czachoslovakia: yoinks Zaolzie
Hungary: wants to send ammo to Poland
Czechoslovakia: no u
But why didn’t they declare war on James Bizanet?
His power is beyond our comprehension.
UK: Dearest Joseph that wasn't nice. Lol!
Thanks James Bizonette
And Kevin Moneymaker
I always thought the allies were hypocrites for declaring war on Nazi Germany and not Communist Russia.
Nazi Germany started the war and their ideology was far worse. You think they only did the holocaust? Try that times 20. Read generalpan Ost. Full enslavement, rape, relocation, and genocide of all polish and Russian civilians. The Soviets were no where near as brutal and thank god they won along with the allies. Post-Stalin SU was not perfect, but it was better than the alternative by far.
Let’s not forget that the allies weren’t angels, The US had slaves and still had segregation during WW2. And GB is arguably the largest mass murderer in the history of humanity.
RusBaller03 .Same atrocities Soviet Russia did. Soviets also help start the Korean War right after WWII they weren’t any better by a long shot.
Because the same group controls the allies and the Soviets and they want to destroy their enemies, Europeans.
Finland as well. It's okay when Soviets invade countries.