37:12 In the text for Travel Mystical Pathways it says that the model cannot move _again_ after being teleported. The wording indicating that the teleport was in fact a move. Thus, a cannon cannot shoot after being teleported by the spell.
Congrats on winning best painted. It's absolutely deserved as your army looks lovely. In particular i love what you've done with the steam tank. The yellowed wood is such a bold choice.
as a VC player. easiest way to remember about regeneration is. If its necromantic animation it's not flammable. If its a vampiric creature it's flammable.
love seeing melee infantry on the board, good to see your opponents bringing some chunky units. I hope they do get the help they need in future so we can see them even more, nothing is more fun then smashing two big blocks together and rolling lots of dice.
Amazing job on the army. I’d obviously love to see orcs and goblins but beastmen would also be great. You’ve been doing fascinating defensive work, smash MG would be a fun change of pace. :)
Have to ask. At about 23:10 you mentioned the vollyegun doing 28 hits vs a group of bloodletters with a herald. How did the herald die as the shots can't be divided into the characters as long as there are 5+ rank and file left in the unit?
@@LordMacragge31Reference please. The only time I know of wounds spillning over like this are when it comes to undead crumbling. When it comes to shooting, I don't think this is the case since you could then end up making a wound to a T5 character by hitting a T3 rank & file model. As far as I know, you only allocate wounds to a character if there are less than 5 models in a unit at the time the shot is made.
@@Anecron1 yeah if your guy is T5 and unit is T3, that's just unfortunate. The unit takes X wounds, if the unit is destroyed the character was still part of the unit when it was targeted so it takes the excess wounds. Your way means characters could literally never be killed by ranged attacks if they were in a unit at the time. The 5 or more models means that your opponent can't target your characters with stuff like snipers, or at least they'd get a 2+ Look out sir.
@@LordMacragge31Yes, I understand what you are saying, and you seem to understand my position, but do you have any page in the rulebook to back up your claim? I can't seem to find anything to support wounds carrying over to characters, and I really don't think they should since the armorsave, wardsave and regensave on the character could then be circumvented by shooting at a unit, making the idea of having your general in a unit a truly horrifying experience. Also, compare to close combat where you cannot kill a character with wounds caused to rank and file troops.
@@LordMacragge31Oh, and let me also direct you to p.209 in the BBB where it says "A character that has joined a unit cannot be hit by enemy shooting unless: They are targeted by an attack that allows a specific model within a unit to be targeted. They find themselves lying underneath a template. There are fewer than five rank and file models in the unit.
@@Jimmyjazz1414 hi 3rd game opponent here. It genuinely was a mistake. The faq that let flying undead units march came out not long before the tournament so I'd never actually marched my necrosphinx before and hadn't properly read the reserve move rule as it's interaction with marching had never been an issue playing an army that can't march. Big apologies to mordian glory for that one. Now I know
@@lucaswatson1913 stand and shoot counting towards combat res Try 30 crossbowmen, longbowmen etc with 3 chars inside and you will see for yourself 😅 Only vampires, tomb kings and chaos are actually optimized for dragon adventures, and maybe high elves, but still, high elf archer death star is more reliable
Hey, really love your vids and your style of colour for your figures. Also im really interested where do you get you regiment bases/ movement trays or does anybody else know?
Slightly illegal detachments 🤏 they can only be half the size of their parent unit (rounding down).. although I cant imagine a sligtly to big militia chaff unit being gamebreaking 🤣
Yeah you are right. I thought he said the parent unit was 38 and the detachment was 22. It could only be 19 maximum. I don't know about his other units. Maybe he could save enough for an Engineer.
Hi Mordian! I think you might have accidentally brought an illegal army comp. Your regimental units (38 and 25 if I recall) are both accompanied by 20 Free Company, right? In the Core Rulebook, Pg. 282, it states... Creating a Detachment: To create a detachment, simply choose a unit with the ‘Detachment’ special rule and create a unit as follows: • A detachment can range in size from a minimum of five models to a maximum of half the number of models in the regimental unit it accompanies (rounding down). • The models in a detachment can purchase any optional upgrades listed as normal. • A detachment cannot include a command group or any command models. I didn't see where anyone mentioned this, and it's entirely possible I misunderstood/misheard something. If that's the case, I can remove this comment.
Good reports, wel played, and please keep them coming :) And I have to whine: Behemoth class units boosted with spells, magical items, and *other makes for OP units and feelbad situations....
Mordian. I Can See your 40k videos Gerd more vores. But You are god sendt with these gourmetmenus breakdowns. They are so entertaining! Keep em coming asLong as You enjoy playing Them :) Cheers from denmark
Firstly, I love the fact that you make videos about Empire, and I quite enjoy your commentary. Secondly, it will be a much more enjoyable battle report to watch if the pictures actually correspond with the action which you describe. For instance, It is difficult to watch when you are discussing turn 5, yet the pictures are of turn 6. Again, thank you for all your efforts. 👍
How are you taking 20 man blobs of freedom pants as detachments for units that are only 25? Am I missing something, I thought detachments could only be between 5 and half the parent unit?
Really enjoying The Old World content - keep it up! A thought. Can characters join War Machines? I can't see a rule that prevents it and a Witch Hunter with Suffer Not the Daemon gives a unit he joins Magical Attacks. Maybe that and Helblaster could sort out these Ethereal Dragons...?
Another question: In the second game you deploy your canons next to eachoter, but in the next photo you seem to have separated them. How did you manage this when they cant pivot before they move? They are blocking eachother from pivoting.
1:08:20 Magic attacks aree negating regeneration. Was confusing for me as well. I think brazziers for bretonnian Bowmen are to expensive because of that.
What on earth are you talking about Magical attacks cancel regen saves only for warp-spawned, where on earth do you people keep coming up with these fanfiction rules Also how you connected magical attacks with braziers (that give flaming attacks) is beyond me Magical attacks cancel regen for warp spawed Flaming attacks cancel regen for flammable THAT SIMPLE Magic attacks also damage ethereal and bypass the ward/armor saves with nonmagical description (deamonic,sea dragon cloak etc) and units with flamming attacks can do an extra wound on a +4 to units with dry as sand keyword (tomb king characters so far) and cause fear to warbeast troup types and also sometimes give target unit a ward save roll with certain items or keywords(blackshard armor, rune of furnace etc) Thats all there is, nothing more, nothing less
If you were using the Free Company as actual legit detachments then your list was illegal. Your maximum detachment size was 19 and 12 for the Halberds and Spears respectively per the rules for detachments on pg.282 of the BBB: "A detachment can range in size from a minimum of five models to a maximum of half the number of models in the regimental unit it accompanies (rounding down)." Your characters don't count towards the size of the unit; so for the Halberds it's 38/2=19 and for the Spears it's 25/2=12.5 (rounded down to 12).
@@Jimmyjazz1414 full plate on dragon with shield gets the 2+. One of the talismans gives a 4++ Ward and theirs is a gift of chaos that gets you a 5+++ regen
@@TeutonicKnight92 full plate with shield gives a 3+ dragon or not, you can go with the dragons armor save (4+) or your characters one, talisman of protection gives a 5+ for 30, but then you cant pick the crown that gives 5+ regen since its also a talisman Theres no gift that gives regen Did you get a fake army book or something 😅
@@Jimmyjazz1414 2+ is 4 from armor, +1 from shield + 1 from mounted for 2+. And your right i was misremembering it was 5++ from chaos armor and a 5+++ from the crown
I'm kinda amazed that with all the tournaments i've seen you've fought 0 bretonians so far, they are one of the flagship and their sales are through the roof. Just kinda funny that they aren't in any of the tournies from what i've seen from you (im the only one who has them often at my own local shop)
There were 2 Bretonnia players there, speaking as one of them. I just think that people who are dissatisfied with AoS have rebased or are re-using models so they don't want/need to get the BIG boxes, just the rule books
@@MrKneeby Fair enough, also there is still the painting issue, sure you CAN paint them as ducal themed, but that's lame, I have been slowly painting all my individual knights and it would be daunting to someone with less experience painting.
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I love games that have a lot of infantry. It makes it feel like an actual battle and its always fun for both players.
100%
Same, armies full of large monsters are super lame
@@filipzietek5146 Too bad the game's balance and rules suggest large monsters are just so much more powerful than infantry. So...
1:03:00 Tomb king units that fly can march and don't need reserve move.
As you cant charge, march or flee and reserve move the same turn.
37:12 In the text for Travel Mystical Pathways it says that the model cannot move _again_ after being teleported. The wording indicating that the teleport was in fact a move. Thus, a cannon cannot shoot after being teleported by the spell.
Im also pretty sure that high elf honors are unique, aka one per army, you cant have 2 pure of heart but i cant remember where ive read it 😅
On sight of the enemy, I advance Sir, thats my style sir!
Advice from the great leader of the South Essex, what could go wrong
Name suggestion: Thomas the Stank Engine.
Congratulations on the award!
PROPOSED STEAM TANK NAME- ‘Thomas the Flank Engine.’
Congrats on winning best painted. It's absolutely deserved as your army looks lovely. In particular i love what you've done with the steam tank. The yellowed wood is such a bold choice.
I love that you’re using an infantry empire army. It’s inspiring me to keep on with my own spearmen heavy list
22:08 haha, hellblaster volleygun goes brrrrrt
The Indomnitable is a pretty good name for a steam tank
Is there not one in lore already called that?
@lucaswatson1913 ohh yeah probably in a couple hundred years
as a VC player. easiest way to remember about regeneration is.
If its necromantic animation it's not flammable.
If its a vampiric creature it's flammable.
love seeing melee infantry on the board, good to see your opponents bringing some chunky units. I hope they do get the help they need in future so we can see them even more, nothing is more fun then smashing two big blocks together and rolling lots of dice.
The Indomitable is good name and has history in the royal navy
idk if it's just because of the colour scheme. But the steam tank being named "the imperial fist" would be really cool
I dare say good sir, consider my fancy well and truly tickled 🤣.
Thanks dude. Really enjoyed your torny report.
Since you have the whole beligerent merc thing going on, i reckon your steam tank should be called Rusty.
Amazing job on the army. I’d obviously love to see orcs and goblins but beastmen would also be great. You’ve been doing fascinating defensive work, smash MG would be a fun change of pace. :)
I think Indomitable is a great name for the Steam Tank - that or Tonky McTonkFace
Congrats on best painted!
Have to ask. At about 23:10 you mentioned the vollyegun doing 28 hits vs a group of bloodletters with a herald. How did the herald die as the shots can't be divided into the characters as long as there are 5+ rank and file left in the unit?
if the hits kill all the bloodletters then theyd spill onto the herald, the herald doesnt get a free damage immunity just by being in a unit
@@LordMacragge31Reference please. The only time I know of wounds spillning over like this are when it comes to undead crumbling. When it comes to shooting, I don't think this is the case since you could then end up making a wound to a T5 character by hitting a T3 rank & file model. As far as I know, you only allocate wounds to a character if there are less than 5 models in a unit at the time the shot is made.
@@Anecron1 yeah if your guy is T5 and unit is T3, that's just unfortunate. The unit takes X wounds, if the unit is destroyed the character was still part of the unit when it was targeted so it takes the excess wounds. Your way means characters could literally never be killed by ranged attacks if they were in a unit at the time. The 5 or more models means that your opponent can't target your characters with stuff like snipers, or at least they'd get a 2+ Look out sir.
@@LordMacragge31Yes, I understand what you are saying, and you seem to understand my position, but do you have any page in the rulebook to back up your claim? I can't seem to find anything to support wounds carrying over to characters, and I really don't think they should since the armorsave, wardsave and regensave on the character could then be circumvented by shooting at a unit, making the idea of having your general in a unit a truly horrifying experience.
Also, compare to close combat where you cannot kill a character with wounds caused to rank and file troops.
@@LordMacragge31Oh, and let me also direct you to p.209 in the BBB where it says "A character that has joined a unit cannot be hit by enemy shooting unless:
They are targeted by an attack that allows a specific model within a unit to be targeted.
They find themselves lying underneath a template.
There are fewer than five rank and file models in the unit.
"Indomitable" for the steam tank name
The necrosphinx movement is not legal. You cannot march and do a reserve move on the same turn.
Cant believe thats a mistake, has to be intentional
@@Jimmyjazz1414 do not trust the experimented ones 🙃
@@Jimmyjazz1414 hi 3rd game opponent here. It genuinely was a mistake. The faq that let flying undead units march came out not long before the tournament so I'd never actually marched my necrosphinx before and hadn't properly read the reserve move rule as it's interaction with marching had never been an issue playing an army that can't march. Big apologies to mordian glory for that one. Now I know
@@edwright6994 oh, that makes sense, didn't know that undead march when flying needed a faq
Nice list btw
Second mission seems like a big error from the TO, infantry are already under valued in TOW and giving them no room to manoeuvre is horrible
The meta for most armies is gonna be infantry death stars
@@Jimmyjazz1414 what makes you say that from what you've played so far? To me chariots and ridden monsters seem king atm
@@lucaswatson1913 stand and shoot counting towards combat res
Try 30 crossbowmen, longbowmen etc with 3 chars inside and you will see for yourself 😅
Only vampires, tomb kings and chaos are actually optimized for dragon adventures, and maybe high elves, but still, high elf archer death star is more reliable
My first game of old world was like your last one: against a TK opponent who kept making his 5/6+ regen saves.
"why would I invest in fire, its never gonna come u..."
@@janehrahan5116doesn’t even negate regen saves anymore just 4+ additional wound
For the steam tank: one can only think "the emperor's finest".
lets have a cavalry Horde - charge of the Light brigade style line abreast sweeping the forces of evil from the board!
You should play Brettonians
Hey, really love your vids and your style of colour for your figures. Also im really interested where do you get you regiment bases/ movement trays or does anybody else know?
It was a good tournament and a cool after action report! I was the Lizardmen player there! you defo deserved the best painted!
Poor lizardmen players...
I thought i got a bad deal with my dark elves till i read lizard armybook 😅
@@Jimmyjazz1414I dunno I’m enjoying playing with mine!
Just name it Ye Olde Indominable
That yellow must have been HELLISH to do so well.
Apparently just a contrast paint, he talks about it in his earlier video.
@@artemeremin holy shit
Lovely army, glad it was fun to use :)
Slightly illegal detachments 🤏 they can only be half the size of their parent unit (rounding down).. although I cant imagine a sligtly to big militia chaff unit being gamebreaking 🤣
*empire free company looking at eachother* I mean, I count a legal ammount, but I never did good math.
Yeah you are right. I thought he said the parent unit was 38 and the detachment was 22. It could only be 19 maximum. I don't know about his other units. Maybe he could save enough for an Engineer.
A unit of 25 Spearmen with a detachment of 20 Free Company is definitely an illegal configuration.
May I ask where can I get them movement trays
Great batrep.
Btw, after teleportation hellblaster cant shoot, bcoae it considering as movig
Hi Mordian!
I think you might have accidentally brought an illegal army comp. Your regimental units (38 and 25 if I recall) are both accompanied by 20 Free Company, right?
In the Core Rulebook, Pg. 282, it states...
Creating a Detachment: To create a detachment, simply choose a unit with the ‘Detachment’ special rule and create a unit as follows:
• A detachment can range in size from a minimum of five models to a maximum of half the number of models in the regimental unit it accompanies (rounding down).
• The models in a detachment can purchase any optional upgrades listed as normal.
• A detachment cannot include a command group or any command models.
I didn't see where anyone mentioned this, and it's entirely possible I misunderstood/misheard something. If that's the case, I can remove this comment.
The Steam Tank looks like a 'Lemon Rust' to me.
Steamtank name: Boulder
Cuz he keeps on rolling, rolling, rolling
I took my fluffy Empire army to a tournament back in 6th edition. Haven't attended a tournament since...
Good reports, wel played, and please keep them coming :)
And I have to whine:
Behemoth class units boosted with spells, magical items, and *other makes for OP units and feelbad situations....
Mordian. I Can See your 40k videos Gerd more vores. But You are god sendt with these gourmetmenus breakdowns. They are so entertaining! Keep em coming asLong as You enjoy playing Them :)
Cheers from denmark
Firstly, I love the fact that you make videos about Empire, and I quite enjoy your commentary.
Secondly, it will be a much more enjoyable battle report to watch if the pictures actually correspond with the action which you describe. For instance, It is difficult to watch when you are discussing turn 5, yet the pictures are of turn 6.
Again, thank you for all your efforts. 👍
Steam tank should obviously be called The Unbreakable
In the first game I don't think the steam tank should have got impact hits as it didn't charge a minimum of three inches.
How are you taking 20 man blobs of freedom pants as detachments for units that are only 25? Am I missing something, I thought detachments could only be between 5 and half the parent unit?
You could name your tank Steamed HAAM
Steam tank names: The Rocket, Tom Thumb, Sigmar's Steed, Goblin Boiler.
What orange is that? It's striking.
Steam tank name: The immoveable object of irresistible force!
The juggernaut!
May i ask where can i get them movement trays
the steam tank has got to be called the emperors wrath right?
Love the feel
how do u get impact hits from 1 inch charge with steam tank im kinda new
Mistakes were made 😅
Really enjoying The Old World content - keep it up!
A thought. Can characters join War Machines? I can't see a rule that prevents it and a Witch Hunter with Suffer Not the Daemon gives a unit he joins Magical Attacks. Maybe that and Helblaster could sort out these Ethereal Dragons...?
Magical attacks doesn't transfer to missile weapons as per the FAQ
@@lucaswatson1913 Assume for a moment I'm old and blind, where in the FAQ does it not allow this...?
Another question: In the second game you deploy your canons next to eachoter, but in the next photo you seem to have separated them. How did you manage this when they cant pivot before they move? They are blocking eachother from pivoting.
they are skirmishers so i think you can just move them sideways and then pivot afterwards
I thought regen counldnt be taken against magical attacks?
1:08:20 Magic attacks aree negating regeneration. Was confusing for me as well. I think brazziers for bretonnian Bowmen are to expensive because of that.
What on earth are you talking about
Magical attacks cancel regen saves only for warp-spawned, where on earth do you people keep coming up with these fanfiction rules
Also how you connected magical attacks with braziers (that give flaming attacks) is beyond me
Magical attacks cancel regen for warp spawed
Flaming attacks cancel regen for flammable
THAT SIMPLE
Magic attacks also damage ethereal and bypass the ward/armor saves with nonmagical description (deamonic,sea dragon cloak etc) and units with flamming attacks can do an extra wound on a +4 to units with dry as sand keyword (tomb king characters so far) and cause fear to warbeast troup types and also sometimes give target unit a ward save roll with certain items or keywords(blackshard armor, rune of furnace etc)
Thats all there is, nothing more, nothing less
If you were using the Free Company as actual legit detachments then your list was illegal. Your maximum detachment size was 19 and 12 for the Halberds and Spears respectively per the rules for detachments on pg.282 of the BBB:
"A detachment can range in size from a minimum of five models to a maximum of half the number of models in the regimental unit it accompanies (rounding down)."
Your characters don't count towards the size of the unit; so for the Halberds it's 38/2=19 and for the Spears it's 25/2=12.5 (rounded down to 12).
What are those Free Company? Highland? I don't see any Free Company minis made by Highland.
They do, Sunland Militia.
@@hectormackenzie4091ok thank you. Guess I missed them. But they don't look the same as what he is using.
Averland forever!
Where did you get your miniatures?
Highland miniatures
Well pleased!
Regen it rough. The last tournament I went to I had a chaos lord on dragon, with a 2+ 4++, 5+++ … I kinda felt bad about it.
How...
@@Jimmyjazz1414 full plate on dragon with shield gets the 2+. One of the talismans gives a 4++ Ward and theirs is a gift of chaos that gets you a 5+++ regen
@@TeutonicKnight92 full plate with shield gives a 3+ dragon or not, you can go with the dragons armor save (4+) or your characters one, talisman of protection gives a 5+ for 30, but then you cant pick the crown that gives 5+ regen since its also a talisman
Theres no gift that gives regen
Did you get a fake army book or something 😅
@@Jimmyjazz1414 2+ is 4 from armor, +1 from shield + 1 from mounted for 2+. And your right i was misremembering it was 5++ from chaos armor and a 5+++ from the crown
@@TeutonicKnight92 you dont get +1 from mounted, thats 8th edition, only bardling and/or armoured hide can give you armor!
Thomas the Train
demi Griff knights are a must as empire
I'm kinda amazed that with all the tournaments i've seen you've fought 0 bretonians so far, they are one of the flagship and their sales are through the roof. Just kinda funny that they aren't in any of the tournies from what i've seen from you (im the only one who has them often at my own local shop)
There were 2 Bretonnia players there, speaking as one of them. I just think that people who are dissatisfied with AoS have rebased or are re-using models so they don't want/need to get the BIG boxes, just the rule books
@@MrKneeby Fair enough, also there is still the painting issue, sure you CAN paint them as ducal themed, but that's lame, I have been slowly painting all my individual knights and it would be daunting to someone with less experience painting.
@@janehrahan5116 Ah, my Brettonian's are exiles o each one will be a somewhat unique paint job, so mine will take forever XD