As an engineer, I’d like to point out that per ANSI standard, any drawing with a lemon yellow sun, grass, and fluffy green tree requires a minimum of one (1) stick figure to indicate scale. I also want to point out that your first name was not in the upper RH corner along with the correct prefix “By”. On a personal note, I want to point out that this is a better drawing than I get from people with a “professional” title in their name and very, very expensive software that actually has the real standards supposedly built in.
It got so bad at my work that they had to give us T&D makers (I was just an intern) CAD access so we could look at the drawings when they inevitable forgot something.
The weld callouts on gov't prints are just the worst. Yeah, I totally bet you want a 2 on 5 on a 10 inch seam. Did you actually lay it out before scribbling some numbers down? Come on, man.
@@benblank609 Dude, I feel you on weld symbols and callouts. We’re a job shop and this is one area where software has made things clearly WORSE. The “symbol builder” that comes in most CAD packages along with a junior engineer that took a bunch of software classes but no basic welding guarantee that you’re gonna make a phone call to the customer with a polite version of “WTF!?!?”
As a permit reviewer I had a “wall of shame” of the most hilarious submittals I reviewed. For example, a proposed fountain and accompanying lighting that included squiggly lines for the shining lights and sprinkles coming out of the fountain. And yes, there was a stick figure man for scale. 🤣
Being a machinist for over 20 years now and never heard of this "restocking" technique. Could you make a deatiled video about it? Can it also be done on the milling machine? ...I have so many questions
Hey I just wanted to say thanks, you got me started into a career of actually tig welding. I’m 21 but at the beginning of Covid I bought a tig welder and wanted to start doing some hobby work but I couldn’t figure out how to do anything, But I had been watching your videos and you got me to the place that in level c welding when we did tig I was so good that my teacher recommended me to a brewery making place. Stainless steel sanitary tig welding and this is all possible because of your videos. Thanks this old tony!
They do exist already, just not marketed to the engineering industry. Look up farriers’ horseshoe vices and you’ll find an entire array of them at different price points and levels of complexity. Some remain parallel, some don’t. But there’s so many to choose from I’m sure you’d find something that works.
reacted earlier to search for "bernstein tools 9-205", that was removed (too commercial?). Quite recogniseable construction design: if it is good, it IS good ! Thanks again for the video TOT, It always brings tons of plessure
@@wim0104 hi, the handle 'slides' and I think can even be taken out. The (thread)end on which it works on has enough meat to be altered (shortened if really needed +hex/nut-shaped top). But, the question was: "is there such a vice on the market?", which as seen there is. Doesn't look that big or robust for heavy work, but it IS there. And even looking quite recognizable.
Easy for me to criticise, sitting here with the benefit of hindsight, but Shirley, any fool would have made a welding vice first. (a simple device with sloping clampable jaws) This would have helped enormously in the manufacture of the Filing Vice. My advice would be to do things in the correct order, as the start of you video, so perfectly demonstrated. Always happy to help. Cheers and all the best, Chancy.
@@SonofTheMorningStar666 The older you get the more tragedy you live through. I'm still relatively young but have lost my wife, friends, relatives, and most recently my job. Kinda wish I had gone with them at times.
@@stevewalston7089 Although I haven't lost what you have, I've lost plenty and if I never go to another funeral again, I'm ok with that. Life ain't easy and it seems like the older you get, the more difficult things can seem. However, life is good and I hope you are able to find happiness in your every day life. To me, dogs have been my number one source of joy (and greatest heartache when they pass) and I am very grateful I have that one thing that truly makes me smile every day.
I consider your posts the highlight of my feed, you may be busy lately and not have time to make videos as often as you used to, but I want you to know that you easily have the best cinematography on all of TH-cam and each video makes my day. I wish your family health and blessings.
@@auxchar Easily done with a saw/grinder, but easier with a mill. Cut through the face of the tube at relevant point, snip the ring and replace bolt with suitably longer one
@@auxchar I believe ToT has a time machine, although I can't remember which video it's in. He could just go back and put that longer screw in while the snap ring is still accessible.
Mr. Tony, To get at the "C" clips simply drill some large holes through the square pipe to allow you to de-clip the bolt. You can then get a slightly longer bolt to use so that you can put an axe head in the new vice! Great welds and super nice design!!
In the alternative, lose the c-clip and add a large spring in there, between the two parts of the vise. Lengthen the thread on the allen bolt and you get everything you want. Long travel, easily servicable
I started watching This Old Tony about 5 years ago or so in high school. I’m currently getting a degree in Machine Tool Technology and recently got a job running a CNC lathe. Getting Americans interested in manufacturing is a good thing, and This Old Tony is doing his part with that. Thank you for the content. It’s more than just entertainment.
Yeah man, I was working in the food industry some years back. I got hooked on TOT and machining. Went back to school for CNC programming. I’m now a Tool and Die Maker for a press facility, not far from my former shitty restaurant job.
Congratulations! You seem to be doing pretty well in life, but I'll give you just one tip. Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your might. In other words, pursue excellence. Choose to become as good as you can be, at whatever you are doing. If you already know how you want your life to work out (retire at 40, for example), make a plan starting with your goal and work backwards to where you are now. Then, simply execute the plan. These things that you love about Tony... you're probably born to do something a bit similar, with your own twist. Good luck!
I love coming back to Tony's videos. Always gives me that feeling of hanging out with with my dad in the garage on a sunday, just making stuff and learning stuff. Considering I never really had a dad, that's no small feat. Thanks for the video Da-- I mean Tony.
My dad was kind of useless with tools, but I can relate about my grandpa (mom's side). He had all the tools (that a 8 year old boy could think they exist) and when he did not he would just invent a 'prototype' of what he needed. Very resourceful guy!
It is wonderful to see you, or more correctly, your hands and to hear your voice. I don’t know where you have been, or if your life has been upset, but if it has I truly hope that everything has worked out for you. We have missed you desperately, and we need more!
The fixed jaw that you offset was in the wrong direction for gaining clearance, the offset you added actually reduced the amount of jaw opening capacity. That could be close to your 1/4" that you lost. Need to move the lower jaw down to have the clamping face as flush to the end of the tube as you can be while the floating jaw is at its max extent.
I was thinking this, lower jaw was moved up instead of down, and maybe the upper jaw could be moved up depending on how far the inner tube is able to screw in
You did not take into account the thickness of your top plate. (From the bottom of the countersink to the bottom of the plate.) And of course you could have run threads up the shoulder of your bolt a bit to get more travel. (Of course this would have made the tube overlap less so more wobbley.) Anyway my first comment. Really like your channel. Nice balance of home shop info and entertainment.
Don't weld the inner stock to the outer stock on in the base! Let the internal tube slide up and down inside the outer square stock and drill holes into it on either side. Align those hole with several matching ones at different height increments along the length of the outer square stock. Instant multiple range selection!
Always good to see Tony back in the saddle. Gotta say, that was some very professional roughing you did at the beginning. Stock replacement has always been touch and go for me.
A new This Old Tony video !!! I've had a hard week, but having this to watch on a Friday, it feels like today is my birthday (it's not). Thank you This Old Tony !
As a blacksmith of over 50 years when you said filing vise, I instantly thought of the one I have that is decades old. It is just like the photos you showed. It is very useful and you are not as limited as you may think. When used in a bench vise it provides a lot of clamping force which more than makes up for a slight out of parallel jaw alignment. I taught blacksmithing for about 30 years and have had Mark Aspery demonstrate at my annual smithing event. He is a great guy.
the vise he wanted is the gramercy tools saw vise for an off the shelf part. he was making a duckbill vise which you can still find second hand, but it looks like gramercy tools is the only company making that style of vise. a saw makers vise is a little different than a duckbill though. you can still get duckbill clamps from Irwin (i have a pair) but those are just hand pliers. the big table duckbills you have to find second hand online. he could also get a huge King Dick style wrench made by Hand Tool Rescue, but its not as wide as a duckbill and doesn't clamp as hard
Jaws that aren't parallel should be fine for flat sheet (which is mostly the point). One jaw provides the flat plate and the other jaw the clamping force. They don't even need to meet at the edge so the top jaw could be set back slightly to keep it out of the way.
This Old Tony, you create the Gold Standard of You Tube videos. Thank you so much for all you do. I honestly wished you lived next door so I was free to pick your brain and hang out. I look forward to future videos. Take care.
YAY! He's ba-ack! I've been wondering lately where you've been! You can't leave us hanging without an occasional proof of life video, Tony! Even if only a minute long! We love, miss, and Jones for you!
I used to sharpen knives, machetes, axes, lawnmower blades, ect. as I was working professionally as a handyman. You'd never know what a client would need. I built an angled holder that attached to the end of my low workbench, and hung off the edge by 10 to 12 inches. It had a couple sets of threaded holes along its length. I would use bolts with fender washers to hold down the object being sharpened with the edge to be sharpened hanging over the edge of the attachment on the long side, short side, or both. The angle to the surface would put the cutting edge flat and the bench height put the filing just above my hips. Made for a perfect edge and ergonomic work station. I could sharpen a 20" machete from nearly flat to a double bevel, razor sharp edge in about 5 minutes. I used a combination of draw filing, push filing, and a couple diamond abrasive impregnated metal pads.
I tried it for a while, but I somehow managed to screw up the speed and feed settings. The end result looked like it had a SEVERE case of Moneypox (the 'k' is silent, so I chose to omit it altogether!) I got similar results when I first tried spray-welding (I quickly learned that 24000RPM is a little quick for spray welding, so I moved the part from the CNC spindle to the lathe)
Its funny how much I would miss in this video if I didn't know anything about fabrication. The jokes about reverse milling, keeping mill-scale, etc. are a great touch
Nice! I'm a blacksmith, and ran into a similar issue... I could not find a filing vise anywhere to buy for love nor money. I resigned myself to making my own, and I was going to make the traditional style you showed examples of. (the first uncredited image is Blackbear Forge, by the by. Check out his channel if you've any interest at all, he's a fantastic educational demonstrator who is a joy to watch, much as yourself.) But, as you say, they are designed for a very narrow range of sizes, and you need to have a few of them to grip more than a few gauges of steel. I really like the version you have created! And I think it's something I can manage to replicate with my anvil-smacker tooling... though I do have a lathe and a shaper, I'm not particularly well versed in them yet :P I suspect your design wouldn't have quite the gripping potential, as it relies on a smaller screw, while the traditional ones rely on the extremely large screw of a leg vise. Realistically though, there's probably not much functional difference there.
My family sells blacksmithing tools and I could have sworn we sold these. Its been so long that I forgot what they were called and searching the website didn't yield any fruit. (name of the business is Blacksmith Depot if you are in need of blacksmith tools)
if you have a vise with easily removable jaws, you can just make a set of jaws with an offset at an angle. It takes a bit longer to set up than the spring insert ones but they will work on a variety of sizes of material.
It was such a pleasure to see a ToT video in my subscriptions today! Hope you can continue to do whatever it is that brings you joy. Wishing all the best for you and your family.
Saw vise. Mounted horizontal rather than vertically. You are welcome! But I mostly come for the humor and camera action! You are a national asset Mr Old
Knife makers make this whole thing with 2x4's, drill rod, eye bolts, and hose clamps for the file. It's like a giant Lanskey system. You can grind bevels and edges and if you do thread inserts and use machine thread eye bolts, you can get whatever precision you choose.
Except the Lansky, and the $40 Chinese clone with 15 sets of titanium stones can hold and adjust the sharpening angle, and the clamps normally rotate so you can do both sides of the knife without remounting it. Why don’t you just buy one of those when you were a knife maker? LOL
It truly is amazing what skill, experience, and patience will allow you to do in this modern age. De-roughing is something I never thought was possible.
Dammit, Tony. I come here for the square pockets. You let me down, brother. 😆 In all seriousness, I (and most likely more than a few others) still appreciate the way you do your thing. Thanks for the laughs. 🤙🏾
My superpower is that I can detect when will Tony upload a video. I start rewatching good old projects (still miss the drillpress one), as I feel the vibes going. I started my session on the end of the last week and, here we are.
This Old Tony is one of the channels that I binge when I'm sick and laying in bed all day. I woke up today with a cold. It was really considerate of him to upload while I was feeling down.
As always, just brilliant. That feeling of inadequacy while working with available tools, and then the compulsion to build some thing completely new to solve your one single problem, that's what leads to new innovations. That's what makes the world a more creative and better place 😉
Right, so here I come back home after a night out, somewhat tipsy (i.e., quite drunk) with my maccies, ready to eat a good big mac and watch some good old tony, and then there comes the first minute of the video... Safe to say I just questioned my whole existence and was really worried for myself. Now I got to the end of the video and finished the food and I did understand what happened there. Very well done! Amazing work!
You are one of the few TH-cam creators who I watch at 1x speed (rather than saving time by watching at 1.5x or 2x) because . . . . timing is everything.
Okay so first off, I'm so happy to see a video from you! I hope you and your loved ones are doing well. Second, my brain couldn't comprehend the toothed belt in the scrap pile and I thought you had digitally added in some sort of Mobius saw blade. Third, please build a Mobius saw blade and use it to cut a passage into the fourth dimension. 😻
As a knife making hobbyist this vice idea is amazing. I've been hand filing knives in a regular bench vice for a while now and that's been a nightmare. You have inspired me to try making a vice like this too.
I use a wicked edge sharpening system for my knives, but wanted something a little stronger and usable with a file when I felt like hand filing a bevel. So I took their blade clamp design and made a wider one out of steel, essentially just two wedge shapes for high angle clearance that use bolts to clamp together. I welded one of the steel wedges to a 2.5" blank trailer hitch so I can mount it in my vise, and since the other wedge uses screws to clamp against the other that was the extent of my mount. Very simple and tough, will accommodate anything from an axe head to a kitchen knife depending on the length of bolt you use. The slop in the receiver fit is taken up with two grub screws threaded directly into the receiver, and a retainer pin is no longer necessary to hold it in place. I later added a plate on the other end with various cuts in it that correspond to bevel angles, and to utilize those angles I tap a file tang into a brass tube to rest against the angle guide while filing. That basically turned it into a glorified Lansky sharpener that I can use with any file I own, and a wood blank to hold sandpaper can be used to work out problem areas before hand sanding. It's not something I use often, as I have a 2x72 grinder with bevel jigs and all sorts of other attachments, but being able to do it all by hand with more control is a nice option to have.
Now that's a craftsman! removing the metal in the EXACT same way and pattern as he added it on-that requires some serious skills right there! good boy,tony!
Tony, thanks for an interesting and enjoyable show. I use the PANAVISE 301 with the PANAVISE 354 Brass jaws to hold my cutlery, axes, sabers, lawnmower blades, and broadswords for sharpening. The universal mount allows me to position material in almost any orientation and they are relatively inexpensive. I've had the same one for 40 years with no problems. Keep up the good work showing us what a fertile imagination and good skills can make.
I just started training to become an industrial mechanic, and machining and general metalworking is a large part of the job. This channel is probably a large reason why I got interested in this in the first place, so, thank you!
I just wanted to compliment you on the quality and fantastic entertainment value of your vids. It is innovative in format and combines humour with technical content in a way that I laugh while I learn. I can appreciate each of your vids must take a LOT of time to generate and so its good news that you get plenty of views. I go back to your earliest postings and enjoy. Please keep it up.
This Old Tony videos are like fireworks over the course of the year. They are beautiful, but brief, and don't happen often. My dog is terrified of them too, but I think that's just because I play them at max volume so I can get maximum absorption. 😁
That vise reminds me of my grandad's angled saw sharpening vise. It could be adjusted to hold blades upright or horizontal. It worked on anything from his saws, to nan's kitchen knife to garden shears. I wish I had photos of it.
Easy for you to have the re-stocking function when you have bought your lathe in the future. But at least you are still a true old-fashioned gentleman when it comes to filing directions :o) Great to see a new video, Tony, thank you very much!
It's really easy. You just set the camera clock to minus when recording to make time go backwards. No need for a flux capacitor or that 88mph nonsense.
ToT, I'm about to embark on a career change at the age of 51, and become a boilermaker. All because your videos inspired me, and gave me the passion I'd been missing. Thanks! Mick
You bumped up the bottom jaw a 1/4" UP which made the jaw smaller, that is where you're 1/4" clearance went. If it was flush it would have a larger opening, or am I missing something?
I think he was already even shorter than that. ie the screw wouldn’t bite at all, so to have a functioning vice he gave up another 1/4” by bringing that plate out
You and Gergenhimer are correct. Leaving the jaw flush with the bottom pipe would've given him more clearance. The placement of the bottom jaw has no bearing on where the threads engage.
I believe it was also the angle, two parallel lines an inch apart perpendicular to the base will get closer together as you lay them over staying parallel, yet leaving their pivot points on the initial perpendicular line. Although they're not at a 45 degree angle, at 45 they're now .707" apart.
Those blacksmith vices are great super handy. Provided the jaws are long enough you can get away with a pretty good clamping range. We anvil smackers seem to run into similar problems as you.
I don't know if you've seen Fireball Tool, but he showed off a technique for dealing with the weld bead by machining a trough on the outside of the inner tube where it would rub against the weld. That way he doesn't have to either cut it open or grind it inside the tube.
ToT, you should take a look into the "Versa Vise" and the "Parrot Vise". It might not be exactly what you are looking for but if you have not seen those then it might lead you down a better search path. When you started this build it reminded me of the older coachmakers vises.
Oooh, Never thought to run my lathe in reverse with a de-roughing tool. Your genius never fails to amaze me. Have you ever though about using un-filler rod with your TIG welder though? I've had great results when I notice that I attached a table leg to my vise for instance and need to take it back off. Much quicker than getting out the grinder.
A friend of mine, roger green, made his knife working vices. They are really cool. He uses a trailer hitch, and his parts to make it a vice on a gimble kind of thing
For knives I like the lansky sharpening kit that comes with a vise pretty similar to what you made there. The vise includes guides to ensure you maintain a consistent filing angle.
You could always drill a hole into the side of that smaller tube to regain access to that snap ring and then replace the bolt with something longer. Might be a bit tricky to replace the ring through the hole, but you only need to do it once anyhow.
I just told my kid "I'm physically tired and emotionally exhausted, can you find your own dinner?" Then looked at my phone to see a TOT video. There is hope. I'm glad to see you back man.
Anyone watching this who isn't a machinist, won't get half the jokes. I love it! I love filing, too. It's one of those things... 🥰 Tells you a lot about the material.
Tony, one fast tip to get the axle in. Buy a longer bolt, like long enough for the axe to hold and lengthen the thread length with a thread die. Easy peasy! Thank you for all your content! Best, Job
As an engineer, I’d like to point out that per ANSI standard, any drawing with a lemon yellow sun, grass, and fluffy green tree requires a minimum of one (1) stick figure to indicate scale. I also want to point out that your first name was not in the upper RH corner along with the correct prefix “By”.
On a personal note, I want to point out that this is a better drawing than I get from people with a “professional” title in their name and very, very expensive software that actually has the real standards supposedly built in.
It got so bad at my work that they had to give us T&D makers (I was just an intern) CAD access so we could look at the drawings when they inevitable forgot something.
He's clearly using ISO standards, heathen. 😂
The weld callouts on gov't prints are just the worst. Yeah, I totally bet you want a 2 on 5 on a 10 inch seam. Did you actually lay it out before scribbling some numbers down? Come on, man.
@@benblank609 Dude, I feel you on weld symbols and callouts. We’re a job shop and this is one area where software has made things clearly WORSE. The “symbol builder” that comes in most CAD packages along with a junior engineer that took a bunch of software classes but no basic welding guarantee that you’re gonna make a phone call to the customer with a polite version of “WTF!?!?”
As a permit reviewer I had a “wall of shame” of the most hilarious submittals I reviewed. For example, a proposed fountain and accompanying lighting that included squiggly lines for the shining lights and sprinkles coming out of the fountain. And yes, there was a stick figure man for scale. 🤣
Can't believe that old Tony disorganized his pristine scrap collection just for cinematic effect, what an artist!
He was gonna clean up his shit, but then he got hiiigh
@@owenwilson3750 He was gonna get up and find the broom, but then he got high
@@myopinion69420 He was gonna pay his child support...
Restocking: Midieval term for punishing a repeat offender. But then he got high...
That old Tony is this old Tony's doppelganger
Being a machinist for over 20 years now and never heard of this "restocking" technique. Could you make a deatiled video about it? Can it also be done on the milling machine?
...I have so many questions
As my Russian co-worker says, “Just put it in reverse and throw the chips at it.” Seems like an easy way to start over
Nice to see you here!
The best part is that it resharpens your inserts too.
Restocking could effectively take the “bumbling” out of the machine shop. The implications are limitless.
@@FFLFFS that would be amazing. bumbling and machine shops should never mix, or at the very least not on youtube.
I love that you restocked that piece at the start of the video, just to later cut it out again exactly as it was. Amazing, peak comedy
Oh how I've missed This Old Tony! Genius idea to restock! Unlimited opportunity to avoid higher costs of materials!
running lathe backwards also rolls back power meter for double the savings!
Until now I did most of my filing in cabinets, looking forward to see how a vice would improve my document workflow.
Vice improves everything, just ask any Mob Boss.
It really only helps when you have a large file. A vice can help you compress the file, thus saving space in the cabinet.
@@aaronpike1853 7vice is my preferred compression tool
@@aaronpike1853 There's a difference between vise and vice.
never know till you try
Hey I just wanted to say thanks, you got me started into a career of actually tig welding. I’m 21 but at the beginning of Covid I bought a tig welder and wanted to start doing some hobby work but I couldn’t figure out how to do anything, But I had been watching your videos and you got me to the place that in level c welding when we did tig I was so good that my teacher recommended me to a brewery making place. Stainless steel sanitary tig welding and this is all possible because of your videos. Thanks this old tony!
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That's awesome mate, well done 👍
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good job!
The video I posted is the first of many videos I’m going to start making. It’s the start of my adventure thanks man.
So happy to see you are alive and kicking! We live for your content and your humour!
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They do exist already, just not marketed to the engineering industry. Look up farriers’ horseshoe vices and you’ll find an entire array of them at different price points and levels of complexity. Some remain parallel, some don’t. But there’s so many to choose from I’m sure you’d find something that works.
The Techno Forge ones that are basically vice grips are... beautiful
That is some great advice. A google image search brings up scads of products that are spot on.
reacted earlier to search for "bernstein tools 9-205", that was removed (too commercial?). Quite recogniseable construction design: if it is good, it IS good !
Thanks again for the video TOT, It always brings tons of plessure
@@benbos6625 how is that Bernstein design useful? It's just another vice with handles and body in the way of the file!?
@@wim0104 hi, the handle 'slides' and I think can even be taken out. The (thread)end on which it works on has enough meat to be altered (shortened if really needed +hex/nut-shaped top). But, the question was: "is there such a vice on the market?", which as seen there is. Doesn't look that big or robust for heavy work, but it IS there. And even looking quite recognizable.
Easy for me to criticise, sitting here with the benefit of hindsight, but Shirley, any fool would have made a welding vice first. (a simple device with sloping clampable jaws)
This would have helped enormously in the manufacture of the Filing Vice.
My advice would be to do things in the correct order, as the start of you video, so perfectly demonstrated.
Always happy to help. Cheers and all the best, Chancy.
This old tony is like santa for adults! Comes round once a year, and brings video gifts!
Used to be more frequent before his FIL died.
@@SonofTheMorningStar666 The older you get the more tragedy you live through. I'm still relatively young but have lost my wife, friends, relatives, and most recently my job. Kinda wish I had gone with them at times.
@@stevewalston7089
Although I haven't lost what you have, I've lost plenty and if I never go to another funeral again, I'm ok with that.
Life ain't easy and it seems like the older you get, the more difficult things can seem.
However, life is good and I hope you are able to find happiness in your every day life. To me, dogs have been my number one source of joy (and greatest heartache when they pass) and I am very grateful I have that one thing that truly makes me smile every day.
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It’s his son, Tony’s too old now
And now he’s gone again…😞
The rent must have been due.
I consider your posts the highlight of my feed, you may be busy lately and not have time to make videos as often as you used to, but I want you to know that you easily have the best cinematography on all of TH-cam and each video makes my day. I wish your family health and blessings.
I have at least 100 you tube channels subscribed to. And two with notifications enabled...
if you like cinematography checkout fortnine's channel it's damn good too
I don't have much to add, but I just wanted to thank you for all your videos. Every single one puts a smile on my face.
thanks!
Best technical drawing I've ever seen! Love it!
an often overlooked aspect of getting a good finish with de-roughing tools is using heatant.
*grumbling*
Just remember, if you take the joke too far, you end up with an actual process. (Spray Welding)
ah, yes, the stuff that comes in grey gas form and turns liquid when used
@@thomasstuart2936 And if you take the joke way way too far you end up reversing entropy and breaking the universe.
@@denisl2760 a time-reversed universe is not broken, all currently-known physics are still in-effect. check out pbs spacetime! :) peace
The thing that grinds my gears is, if you wanted more clamping range why not just re-stock the screw with some thread-swarf so it becomes longer?
We all know the right process is to heat it and pull it longer. Bolts are well known for their ductility and 6:1 expansion capability
I'm sure he could do that, but then he'd have to get at that inaccessible snap ring.
@@auxchar Easily done with a saw/grinder, but easier with a mill. Cut through the face of the tube at relevant point, snip the ring and replace bolt with suitably longer one
@@auxchar I believe ToT has a time machine, although I can't remember which video it's in. He could just go back and put that longer screw in while the snap ring is still accessible.
@@timsaveneh567 I always end up with an odd thread pitch when I do that. Did you find a work around?
Bravo, Tony - great to see a new video from you!
I’m just here for the jammy music and soothing narrations.
Joking… Always enjoy your content,creations,projects, and humor. Thanks again Tony. 🍻
Mr. Tony, To get at the "C" clips simply drill some large holes through the square pipe to allow you to de-clip the bolt. You can then get a slightly longer bolt to use so that you can put an axe head in the new vice! Great welds and super nice design!!
In the alternative, lose the c-clip and add a large spring in there, between the two parts of the vise. Lengthen the thread on the allen bolt and you get everything you want. Long travel, easily servicable
I started watching This Old Tony about 5 years ago or so in high school. I’m currently getting a degree in Machine Tool Technology and recently got a job running a CNC lathe. Getting Americans interested in manufacturing is a good thing, and This Old Tony is doing his part with that. Thank you for the content. It’s more than just entertainment.
Yeah man, I was working in the food industry some years back. I got hooked on TOT and machining. Went back to school for CNC programming. I’m now a Tool and Die Maker for a press facility, not far from my former shitty restaurant job.
@@000AllLitUp000 you mean your new workplace is located near your old one? Or your current job is as crappy as your old one? 😅 I hope it's the former.
Congratulations! You seem to be doing pretty well in life, but I'll give you just one tip. Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your might. In other words, pursue excellence. Choose to become as good as you can be, at whatever you are doing.
If you already know how you want your life to work out (retire at 40, for example), make a plan starting with your goal and work backwards to where you are now. Then, simply execute the plan. These things that you love about Tony... you're probably born to do something a bit similar, with your own twist. Good luck!
ToT is single-handedly responsible for the entire building I erected in my back yard that is now full of machine tools. The man is a menace!
ToT is also responsible for my entire engineering degree. One of the best things I ever did.
I love coming back to Tony's videos. Always gives me that feeling of hanging out with with my dad in the garage on a sunday, just making stuff and learning stuff. Considering I never really had a dad, that's no small feat. Thanks for the video Da-- I mean Tony.
One main reason why I read so many comments is because of brilliant comments like yours.
Thanks man! 😄
My dad was kind of useless with tools, but I can relate about my grandpa (mom's side). He had all the tools (that a 8 year old boy could think they exist) and when he did not he would just invent a 'prototype' of what he needed. Very resourceful guy!
Oh thank god I'm not the only one
It is wonderful to see you, or more correctly, your hands and to hear your voice. I don’t know where you have been, or if your life has been upset, but if it has I truly hope that everything has worked out for you. We have missed you desperately, and we need more!
TOT is back!
That restocking technic is brilliant. Now I can turn my giant scrap bin back to parts bin.
The fixed jaw that you offset was in the wrong direction for gaining clearance, the offset you added actually reduced the amount of jaw opening capacity. That could be close to your 1/4" that you lost. Need to move the lower jaw down to have the clamping face as flush to the end of the tube as you can be while the floating jaw is at its max extent.
I was thinking this, lower jaw was moved up instead of down, and maybe the upper jaw could be moved up depending on how far the inner tube is able to screw in
Ahh, the cut 3 times measure one person...
You did not take into account the thickness of your top plate. (From the bottom of the countersink to the bottom of the plate.) And of course you could have run threads up the shoulder of your bolt a bit to get more travel. (Of course this would have made the tube overlap less so more wobbley.)
Anyway my first comment. Really like your channel. Nice balance of home shop info and entertainment.
Don't weld the inner stock to the outer stock on in the base! Let the internal tube slide up and down inside the outer square stock and drill holes into it on either side. Align those hole with several matching ones at different height increments along the length of the outer square stock. Instant multiple range selection!
From the “D’OH!!! (Forehead-Smack)” Department….
Brilliant!
200 iq move
@@ElAirHawkThank you. I yelled an obscenity when he tacked the outside...
@@EddSjo It just made sense!
We have a grinding vise that operates by that scheme.
Very practical.
Always good to see Tony back in the saddle. Gotta say, that was some very professional roughing you did at the beginning. Stock replacement has always been touch and go for me.
As one gets younger, one tends to undo things more and more oftener.
Tony, you have been missed. I hope things are going well for you, and if not I hope whatever may be "not well" improves for you.
Love watching mysterious hands creating! Nice idea.
A new This Old Tony video !!! I've had a hard week, but having this to watch on a Friday, it feels like today is my birthday (it's not). Thank you This Old Tony !
As a blacksmith of over 50 years when you said filing vise, I instantly thought of the one I have that is decades old. It is just like the photos you showed. It is very useful and you are not as limited as you may think. When used in a bench vise it provides a lot of clamping force which more than makes up for a slight out of parallel jaw alignment. I taught blacksmithing for about 30 years and have had Mark Aspery demonstrate at my annual smithing event. He is a great guy.
the vise he wanted is the gramercy tools saw vise for an off the shelf part. he was making a duckbill vise which you can still find second hand, but it looks like gramercy tools is the only company making that style of vise. a saw makers vise is a little different than a duckbill though. you can still get duckbill clamps from Irwin (i have a pair) but those are just hand pliers. the big table duckbills you have to find second hand online. he could also get a huge King Dick style wrench made by Hand Tool Rescue, but its not as wide as a duckbill and doesn't clamp as hard
Jaws that aren't parallel should be fine for flat sheet (which is mostly the point). One jaw provides the flat plate and the other jaw the clamping force. They don't even need to meet at the edge so the top jaw could be set back slightly to keep it out of the way.
Glad to see a new video from my favourite temporal-spatial machining channel!
Don't forget to set your lathe to "2" when making multiple copies! 😅
Technical drawings should always look like this! :)
You never saw the stuff I got a distinction for...
Another Quality video bordering on perfection. Thank you for your diligence.
This Old Tony, you create the Gold Standard of You Tube videos. Thank you so much for all you do. I honestly wished you lived next door so I was free to pick your brain and hang out. I look forward to future videos. Take care.
I don’t know why but these videos just make me smile so much
YAY! He's ba-ack! I've been wondering lately where you've been! You can't leave us hanging without an occasional proof of life video, Tony! Even if only a minute long! We love, miss, and Jones for you!
I think Adam Savage scared the hell out of him when he acknowledged him about a month back. ... .
Old Tony, so great to have you back! We missed you!
I always heard Frank Zappa was the Mother of Invention 🤔
I used to sharpen knives, machetes, axes, lawnmower blades, ect. as I was working professionally as a handyman. You'd never know what a client would need. I built an angled holder that attached to the end of my low workbench, and hung off the edge by 10 to 12 inches. It had a couple sets of threaded holes along its length. I would use bolts with fender washers to hold down the object being sharpened with the edge to be sharpened hanging over the edge of the attachment on the long side, short side, or both. The angle to the surface would put the cutting edge flat and the bench height put the filing just above my hips. Made for a perfect edge and ergonomic work station. I could sharpen a 20" machete from nearly flat to a double bevel, razor sharp edge in about 5 minutes. I used a combination of draw filing, push filing, and a couple diamond abrasive impregnated metal pads.
Glad to see your back. I like what you've done with your hair. Not many men can pull off a man-bun.
I appreciate the how-to! Inverse turning is something I've been wanting to get into for a while
I tried it for a while, but I somehow managed to screw up the speed and feed settings.
The end result looked like it had a SEVERE case of Moneypox (the 'k' is silent, so I chose to omit it altogether!)
I got similar results when I first tried spray-welding (I quickly learned that 24000RPM is a little quick for spray welding, so I moved the part from the CNC spindle to the lathe)
I think you need a valmorphanizing attachment to do that
You had me going for a second there. I was worried this was going to be a serious machining video. This is a serious roughing video.
That 'technical drawing' is very aesthetically pleasing. 🦊💙
This has to be the first time I've seen 'reversed' video actually used appropriately and in an entertaining way. Well done! Love the content!
So good to have you back, the only you tube machinist where the lines of physics and reality are blurred to make a jumble of sense.
Its funny how much I would miss in this video if I didn't know anything about fabrication. The jokes about reverse milling, keeping mill-scale, etc. are a great touch
Nice! I'm a blacksmith, and ran into a similar issue... I could not find a filing vise anywhere to buy for love nor money. I resigned myself to making my own, and I was going to make the traditional style you showed examples of. (the first uncredited image is Blackbear Forge, by the by. Check out his channel if you've any interest at all, he's a fantastic educational demonstrator who is a joy to watch, much as yourself.) But, as you say, they are designed for a very narrow range of sizes, and you need to have a few of them to grip more than a few gauges of steel. I really like the version you have created! And I think it's something I can manage to replicate with my anvil-smacker tooling... though I do have a lathe and a shaper, I'm not particularly well versed in them yet :P
I suspect your design wouldn't have quite the gripping potential, as it relies on a smaller screw, while the traditional ones rely on the extremely large screw of a leg vise. Realistically though, there's probably not much functional difference there.
Check out the real avid gun vise if you hadnt already solved the issue, its expensive but seems pretty solid
Gramercy Tools saw vise looks like exactly the off the shelf vise he wanted
My family sells blacksmithing tools and I could have sworn we sold these. Its been so long that I forgot what they were called and searching the website didn't yield any fruit. (name of the business is Blacksmith Depot if you are in need of blacksmith tools)
if you have a vise with easily removable jaws, you can just make a set of jaws with an offset at an angle. It takes a bit longer to set up than the spring insert ones but they will work on a variety of sizes of material.
It was such a pleasure to see a ToT video in my subscriptions today! Hope you can continue to do whatever it is that brings you joy.
Wishing all the best for you and your family.
Sir, your sense of humor is TRULY beautiful, I hope you know that
Saw vise. Mounted horizontal rather than vertically. You are welcome! But I mostly come for the humor and camera action! You are a national asset Mr Old
Knife makers make this whole thing with 2x4's, drill rod, eye bolts, and hose clamps for the file. It's like a giant Lanskey system. You can grind bevels and edges and if you do thread inserts and use machine thread eye bolts, you can get whatever precision you choose.
Best restocking ever! I want to learn hot to do it!
It’s like a much better version of a Lansky vise for knife sharpening. Wish I had thought of this when I was a knife maker. Great build Tony! 👍
Except the Lansky, and the $40 Chinese clone with 15 sets of titanium stones can hold and adjust the sharpening angle, and the clamps normally rotate so you can do both sides of the knife without remounting it. Why don’t you just buy one of those when you were a knife maker? LOL
My thoughts exactly!
@@BikingVikingHH where did you buy the 40$ chinese one?
That's what I was thinking... "Holy Hell, Tony made a Lansky from scratch."
@@BikingVikingHH titanium plated diamond stones* it's just a yellow version of the regular silver diamond stones. idk if that makes it any better.
It truly is amazing what skill, experience, and patience will allow you to do in this modern age. De-roughing is something I never thought was possible.
Dammit, Tony. I come here for the square pockets. You let me down, brother. 😆
In all seriousness, I (and most likely more than a few others) still appreciate the way you do your thing. Thanks for the laughs. 🤙🏾
Your restocking skills are quite literally the best I've ever seen 🧐
My superpower is that I can detect when will Tony upload a video. I start rewatching good old projects (still miss the drillpress one), as I feel the vibes going. I started my session on the end of the last week and, here we are.
Or maybe I'm watching constantly, who knows
@@Bence507 Rewatching ToT videos is like ... emotionnal comfort food!
I did the same thing and actually when I saw this video I thought it was an old one, so maybe all of us did the same thing and her its another video
I also miss the drill press video.
ToT said he was gonna reupload it, but I guess he's a little busy.
This Old Tony is one of the channels that I binge when I'm sick and laying in bed all day. I woke up today with a cold. It was really considerate of him to upload while I was feeling down.
As always, just brilliant. That feeling of inadequacy while working with available tools, and then the compulsion to build some thing completely new to solve your one single problem, that's what leads to new innovations. That's what makes the world a more creative and better place 😉
Right, so here I come back home after a night out, somewhat tipsy (i.e., quite drunk) with my maccies, ready to eat a good big mac and watch some good old tony, and then there comes the first minute of the video... Safe to say I just questioned my whole existence and was really worried for myself. Now I got to the end of the video and finished the food and I did understand what happened there. Very well done! Amazing work!
Tot .. the only channel I immediately stop what I'm doing to watch. Great as always
Man, you need to make more films more often, your simply the #1 machinist on this tube! Thanks a lot from Sweden.
You are one of the few TH-cam creators who I watch at 1x speed (rather than saving time by watching at 1.5x or 2x) because
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timing is everything.
Sometimes I think, "Oh... No jokes? Straight to the machining, huh?"
And then I'm undisappointed by additive manufacturing on a lathe. 😉
I am straight up jealous of your "scrap pile". I aspire to have such a collection.
Yay! The filing show is back! I don't know why but I really enjoy the filing videos the most. Cheers!
Okay so first off, I'm so happy to see a video from you! I hope you and your loved ones are doing well.
Second, my brain couldn't comprehend the toothed belt in the scrap pile and I thought you had digitally added in some sort of Mobius saw blade.
Third, please build a Mobius saw blade and use it to cut a passage into the fourth dimension.
😻
Didn't I see you hanging out at the Mobius strip joint?
@@ExtantFrodo2 👀
As a knife making hobbyist this vice idea is amazing. I've been hand filing knives in a regular bench vice for a while now and that's been a nightmare. You have inspired me to try making a vice like this too.
Looked up fixed angle sharpening systems. There are some very cheap and effective solutions
I use a wicked edge sharpening system for my knives, but wanted something a little stronger and usable with a file when I felt like hand filing a bevel. So I took their blade clamp design and made a wider one out of steel, essentially just two wedge shapes for high angle clearance that use bolts to clamp together. I welded one of the steel wedges to a 2.5" blank trailer hitch so I can mount it in my vise, and since the other wedge uses screws to clamp against the other that was the extent of my mount. Very simple and tough, will accommodate anything from an axe head to a kitchen knife depending on the length of bolt you use. The slop in the receiver fit is taken up with two grub screws threaded directly into the receiver, and a retainer pin is no longer necessary to hold it in place. I later added a plate on the other end with various cuts in it that correspond to bevel angles, and to utilize those angles I tap a file tang into a brass tube to rest against the angle guide while filing. That basically turned it into a glorified Lansky sharpener that I can use with any file I own, and a wood blank to hold sandpaper can be used to work out problem areas before hand sanding. It's not something I use often, as I have a 2x72 grinder with bevel jigs and all sorts of other attachments, but being able to do it all by hand with more control is a nice option to have.
Now that's a craftsman! removing the metal in the EXACT same way and pattern as he added it on-that requires some serious skills right there! good boy,tony!
This will always be my favorite you tube channel!
Such a treat when there is a This Old Tony video waiting for me.
Tony, thanks for an interesting and enjoyable show. I use the PANAVISE 301 with the PANAVISE 354 Brass jaws to hold my cutlery, axes, sabers, lawnmower blades, and broadswords for sharpening. The universal mount allows me to position material in almost any orientation and they are relatively inexpensive. I've had the same one for 40 years with no problems. Keep up the good work showing us what a fertile imagination and good skills can make.
Seems like you also created a sheet metal bender for smaller pieces or light duty sheet metal work too. Loved the humor in this video. Great stuff.
Good thing you aren't one of those strange people that would just clamp the file and move the workpiece, we wouldn't have gotten this awesome video 😎
I just started training to become an industrial mechanic, and machining and general metalworking is a large part of the job. This channel is probably a large reason why I got interested in this in the first place, so, thank you!
You sir are the expert at repairing broken edges.
I just wanted to compliment you on the quality and fantastic entertainment value of your vids. It is innovative in format and combines humour with technical content in a way that I laugh while I learn. I can appreciate each of your vids must take a LOT of time to generate and so its good news that you get plenty of views. I go back to your earliest postings and enjoy.
Please keep it up.
Pro tip... When restocking and de-roughing, a moron tool works best. It's old school but truly the best way to put more on.
was having a rough day, but it’s all good now that Tony put out a video
Is that because of de-roughing he did at the beginning?
This Old Tony videos are like fireworks over the course of the year. They are beautiful, but brief, and don't happen often. My dog is terrified of them too, but I think that's just because I play them at max volume so I can get maximum absorption. 😁
Kinda same as Sawyer's use for sharpening crosscut saws, your channel is the one I never miss
That vise reminds me of my grandad's angled saw sharpening vise. It could be adjusted to hold blades upright or horizontal. It worked on anything from his saws, to nan's kitchen knife to garden shears. I wish I had photos of it.
I had the same thought, I use an antique ball joint saw filing vise for blade work.
Yep. I use one of those to sharpen my hand saws, axes, knives, mower blades, etc. Wonderful, simple design too.
If you cut a window in the inner piece, you could gain access to that clip, so you could remove the bolt and put in a longer one. :)
Easy for you to have the re-stocking function when you have bought your lathe in the future. But at least you are still a true old-fashioned gentleman when it comes to filing directions :o)
Great to see a new video, Tony, thank you very much!
It's really easy. You just set the camera clock to minus when recording to make time go backwards. No need for a flux capacitor or that 88mph nonsense.
ToT, I'm about to embark on a career change at the age of 51, and become a boilermaker.
All because your videos inspired me, and gave me the passion I'd been missing.
Thanks!
Mick
Tony, Great to see another video about a most useful item. Don't forget to add the kids and cats in the next adventure!
You bumped up the bottom jaw a 1/4" UP which made the jaw smaller, that is where you're 1/4" clearance went. If it was flush it would have a larger opening, or am I missing something?
I had the same thought, bumping it up a quarter inch lost him a quarter inch
I think he was already even shorter than that.
ie the screw wouldn’t bite at all, so to have a functioning vice he gave up another 1/4” by bringing that plate out
You and Gergenhimer are correct. Leaving the jaw flush with the bottom pipe would've given him more clearance. The placement of the bottom jaw has no bearing on where the threads engage.
I believe it was also the angle, two parallel lines an inch apart perpendicular to the base will get closer together as you lay them over staying parallel, yet leaving their pivot points on the initial perpendicular line. Although they're not at a 45 degree angle, at 45 they're now .707" apart.
The screw ran out of threads I believe, if the lower jaw had been flush with the pipe, the upper wouldn't have had enough travel to meet it.
Those blacksmith vices are great super handy. Provided the jaws are long enough you can get away with a pretty good clamping range. We anvil smackers seem to run into similar problems as you.
I don't know if you've seen Fireball Tool, but he showed off a technique for dealing with the weld bead by machining a trough on the outside of the inner tube where it would rub against the weld. That way he doesn't have to either cut it open or grind it inside the tube.
THIS... is why I love this channel. You can never take yourself too seriously in life.
Nice work TOT! I needed this today.
Keep the burner on this. An upgraded version of this is something a lot of people would be interested in making /buying. I want one. ✌ 😃
ToT, you should take a look into the "Versa Vise" and the "Parrot Vise". It might not be exactly what you are looking for but if you have not seen those then it might lead you down a better search path. When you started this build it reminded me of the older coachmakers vises.
Oooh, Never thought to run my lathe in reverse with a de-roughing tool. Your genius never fails to amaze me.
Have you ever though about using un-filler rod with your TIG welder though? I've had great results when I notice that I attached a table leg to my vise for instance and need to take it back off. Much quicker than getting out the grinder.
I think you meant "TIG separator".
Yeah, TIG wick, it's like solder wick or "desoldering braid".
You mean air arc cutting/gouging?
A friend of mine, roger green, made his knife working vices. They are really cool. He uses a trailer hitch, and his parts to make it a vice on a gimble kind of thing
That was your best intro yet... very, very well done...
You are not right!!!! Had so much fun watching you. Joe Gibbs Racing vet.
For knives I like the lansky sharpening kit that comes with a vise pretty similar to what you made there. The vise includes guides to ensure you maintain a consistent filing angle.
Except those aren't a consistent angle. They get shallower the further you swing to the side. Really not useful for kitchen knives.
You could always drill a hole into the side of that smaller tube to regain access to that snap ring and then replace the bolt with something longer. Might be a bit tricky to replace the ring through the hole, but you only need to do it once anyhow.
I just told my kid "I'm physically tired and emotionally exhausted, can you find your own dinner?"
Then looked at my phone to see a TOT video. There is hope.
I'm glad to see you back man.
It's good to teach them early. Tony-time is higher up in the pyramid of needs than offspring-feeding-time.
Just don't let them back into the house until they show up with at least 3 pelts...
@@TheBrokenLife I needed to bring back 5 :/
@@LlamaCraft Judging by your username, those Llamas learned their lesson!
Anyone watching this who isn't a machinist, won't get half the jokes.
I love it!
I love filing, too. It's one of those things... 🥰
Tells you a lot about the material.
Tony, one fast tip to get the axle in. Buy a longer bolt, like long enough for the axe to hold and lengthen the thread length with a thread die. Easy peasy! Thank you for all your content! Best, Job
He needs to file an "axle"? I missed that part.