Someone with Complete Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome (CIAS) cannot respond to testosterone including the vocal cords hence their voice will sound female. Someone with CAIS may not necessarily be androgynous looking and someone who is androgynous looking does not necessarily have CAIS
I'm also intersex, I was born in May 7 ,2005 when my doctor congratulated my mom and dad that a baby boy was born... After a few months mom notice that I have two girly legs, and so my mom and dad took me to the specialist as well but instead of the XY I literally and figuratively have XX which is a female genes... And now I'm 14 and my voice still sounds like a girl and my legs definitely looks like a girl and I grew a tiny boob... Thank you so much... I'm not alone... ☺
Albert Robin so, you have female characteristics, but you don’t have the insides of a female? if i offend you i totally apologize, just ignore it because that was NOT my intention. I’m really curious. I’m just now finding out about this.
People please learn the difference between intersex and transgender before you comment. It's already bad enough that people need to know the difference before they decide to be hateful because some can deal with a intersex person and not a transgender person. It's sad that people can't just decide on if they like a person or not because of how they act or treats that person, instead of what they look like and or do with their life. It's also sad that people can't just act mature and keep it moving when they come across someone they are disgusted by for dumb reasons most of the time. We really have let history get to us in so many ways and not for the best.
Manvir Sandhu Pidgeon is Intersex. Also chanel wasn’t born a boy, she confirmed this In Ridiculousness. Its a celebrity that looks like her but is a dude and isnt her.
ty lynn- educate more the word hermaphrodite has the same meaning as intersex it's said to be a nicer way of saying it! I'm annoyed that SCT(so-called transgender's ) claim intersex when they are not, it's horrible to lie to get your way claiming to be something you are not! More people are becoming annoyed with SCT as they should be! Good day!
Intersex doesn't mean "mixed genders" or anything like that. It's about sex chromosomes, genitals, reproductive organs, hormones etc. Gender is the social and psychological expression of traits we often associate with certain binary sexes. Intersex people can be of any gender- masculine, feminine, etc. Pidgeon for example is nonbinary. They don't identify on the male-female spectrum of gender. Hope that helps!
but if you are really intersex but many years about are human civilization bud i learning in astral with mystic arts but many learning be in but if i can have a time but a problem with fascinating intersex but I am interested in the theme of hermaphrodites, but what causes what you are now, but in the depths of the soul can be induced the possibility of reincarnation but that it affects it is 7% -12% of the population what if you like the soul? but that you are born as I was before I wrote if I was in your place so if doctors, although in quotation marks can not find anything, and unless you let the icecat do hysterectomy but I would say "when I was born so I die to old age when I chose this to best save burning karma and also helped mankind to understand that there are people who do not act as Orthodox medicine Men and Woman say but how many times in history there were many signs of being born in animals also hermaphrodites are part of the whole of nature and not only affects both humans and animals are as old as animals, what if it is a kind of anomaly which is the highest creator imagination and the experience of the whole planet and people and other extra-planet populations but we are not the exception it is everywhere but we are also not in the universe ourselves here and mini whose goals are to help us and others and others want to destroy us will be better when we choose light
I really hope doctors will quit making snap decisions and will help intersex folks live their lives in that in-between, middle ground, or help them to the gender they want, instead of forcing a bad compromise. Growing up figuring out you're gay can be tough enough. Learning you're intersex, or having it be obvious, has got to be tough to deal with. -- Hey, best wishes to you. It takes courage to face life's rough times for being different. :hug:
How can somebody dislike a video of someone literally just conveying the fact they were born with ambiguous genitalia, this is a very informational video in general Edit: I noticed comments on this comment suggesting the dislike ratio could be from the poor editing quality of the video or another un-known reason . i hope others may take that into consideration ,as i have myself now.
I saw you on buzz feed and thought you were amazing! Didn't know you had a TH-cam channel until now though. I think it's great you're spreading awareness and understanding of intersex people, keep doing what you're doing lovely!
@gayTouretteandOCDer no you are not alone we are all here for each other no matter what even if we are strangers and far away from each other, LOVE, PEACE, HUGS :'(
Crushed Belette no body chooses to be born with a different type of genitalia than the norm stop beige a troll . These are not Transgender you troll they are people born with both or ambiguous genitalia which is a normal mutation and none of your business love all and stop trying to rile people up
How ignorant and weird that almost 400 people gave this a thumbs down. It’s genetics people of the dark ages! It’s God’s creation. And it’s common. Sorry to pop your Adam and Eve bubble. 🙄
Scott Riddle it's not Gods creation. God created Adam and Eve perfect, NO human being is perfect, that's why we get old and die. Sin is the cause of disease, old age and death.
Sarah Soliman intersex people probably have to figure their gender out by themselves. If you watch the vid again you can see pigeon says they are intersex and non binary. Sex:intersex gender:non binary. I’m sure there are binary intersex people too.
I grew up with an intersex friend, my friend's family came from Kenya to receive surgery and my grandmother paid for their housing and food during their stay. She visited the family 3 times a week and always brought me to play with the children. They dressed my friend as a girl for so long because of Faith's voice and then after a few years,Faith began developing men features, which resulted in the family changing Faith's entire identity. When I was young I didn't really understand, but I always felt so sorry for Faith. Faith was always miserable. I'm glad you have the courage to speak for those who feel so alone in the world. ❤️
Wow! Good for you for telling your story, I'm a RN and I've been telling people for years that some people are born this way, and a lot of people didn't believe it's possible and didn't really want to hear about it. I'm sorry your parents were so mis informed that you had to undergo unnessesary surgery, you seem like a really good and happy person, thanks for sharing something so personal, I wish you the best
Thank you for a wonderful film and a job well done. I am also an intersex person. My intersex variation of cryptorchild. I want to say that no matter who you are intersex,gay,polysexual,transgender,demisexual,panromantic,non binary and so on,you deserve happiness. Your orientation,gender identity or intersex variation is just a feature of your biology,there is no need to be afraid of this or something like that, you need to be a good person and bring good to the world. Good luck to you! And sorry for the grammatical errors in the text.
Oh my gosh! I just got my national geographic in the mail and I screamed. My mom asked me what was wrong and I just yelled "PIDGEON"! I'm so happy that you are on the cover! And there are really good articles in this issue. I will be keeping it for a long time.
I always thought that I was a fairly fluid thinker but I have to admit I probably would have based my decisions around what was right for my baby on the advice and ‘expertise’ of medical professionals. Thank you for sharing your incredible story and for enlightening me. Whilst I doubt that I’ll ever have to have these conversations with a Dr, I can honestly say that I would never now consider making a decision for my child before they were able to communicate their identity to me themselves. You’re a real inspiration, I’m so sorry that you ever went through this but, because of you, many other intersex children will never have to. ✌🏼
Wow. The doctors lied about needing your gonads removed. Actually in the US and UK some were trained to lie about this because it would be too hard for parents to handle. I would leave my kid alone and see how they develop.
Okuhle Osh No no, you dont see. This cancer risk is only increased for people with XY chromosome but showing female characteristics. For females with XX chromosomes gonadectomy is not neccessary. This guy surely needed it.
Mind 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯you learn something new everyday! Much love & respect! Hands down to you for sharing your story! Now...lol I have to watch again! Lol to make sure I get what you are sayin. ☺️😁
Ooh! I love that an intersex individual is also hitting the youtube scene. Thank you for educating the general population. Quick note, gonads is the word used for the sex organs regardless of how testicle like or ovaries-like they are.
I had something similar happen when my child was born. When I gave birth, immediately said it's a boy! Which is what I already knew due to ultrasound. Shortly after, the nurses and doctors were confused as to why my son didn't have testicles. The sack was there but nothing was inside of them. Btw, this hospital was shitty because it was a small town hospital and the doctors weren't equipped to take on what was about to happen next. So the doctor comes in and point blank rudely tells me "we don't know what IT is". Excuse me? It? The fuck? That's my child and I literally just went through hell (20 hours labor) I'm tired and you're being rude? He then says something along the lines (it's been almost 10 years so I don't remember word for word so please excuse my memory) "we don't know what your child is because we don't see any testicles. We don't know if it's a male without testicles or a female with a VERY enlarged clitoris. If your child is male but has ovaries your child can die". Here I am a 19 year old single, scared to death mother hearing something is going on with her baby. 😳 so because the hospital was small they didn't have the equipment needed to actually determine his DNA and do all that jazz. The only thing they could do was use an ultrasound on his abdomen to see if he had testicles. They couldn't find them so he ended up staying the night but the next morning he was transported by ambulance to a children's hospital 2 hours away (which is in the city I currently live now). I was released after I was suppose to stay my visit and went straight to where he was. The children's hospital apologized to me for such bad behavior those moronic doctors and nurses at the little hospital had. They told me that it wasn't super common but that they had seen a few cases and was going to run all kinds of tests to figure out what was going on. In the end, he had a chromosomal analysis done and I had to wait on the results to come in (not sure how long it took) but he was in fact 100% male. The other thing they did was check to see if it was ovaries or testicles. It was of course testicles and that they were undescended. So he ended up having surgery at 13 months to drop them into his sack. They waited til then because they said usually at a year testicles will drop if they haven't by birth. He's not intersex but I just wanted to share my story because it was sort of similar at the beginning as far as "what are the organs in the abdomen" thing. It was definitely scary for me especially being a teen. His dad wasn't in the picture. He refused to come to the hospital for his birth so my parents were there. My dad went the hell off on the hospital for their unprofessional conduct and how they immediately told me he was going to die if he had ovaries. They did say that having the surgery would be the best option if they didn't drop because he was at higher risk for cancer.
I'm so sorry they exhibited such unprofessional behavior towards you. We need to get rid of the binary concept of sex and gender. It's an illusion. We exist in a spectrum. A healthy, beautiful, spectrum. This type of unnecessary trauma is UNNECESSARY.
MSLT thanks for sharing. I too had a horrible experience with a shitty hospital and staff. This was 14 years ago before they had patient surveys and all that. I also was young and didn't know how to handle it. My daughter's situation was different, but none the less had do deal with ignorant staff on top of it. I'm glad your dad put them in their place.
Hospitals shouldn't be rude like that regardless. I was born with a cyst and they had the gall to tell my mom I was "deformed" She was horrified of course, turns out it was nothing serious at all.
Sorry to hear about what happened. It sounds like yet another case of doctors carrying out unnecessary and harmful surgery on an intersex person. If you have AIS then the gonadectomy was not only unnecessary, but actually harmful, as it's removed what were functioning hormone-producing organs, and has unnecessarily made you dependent on HRT for the remainder of your life. A person with AIS develops testicles just like an XY male does, it's just that the mutation that causes AIS means that your body doesn't respond to testosterone, so all your development takes place as if there was no testosterone present (which causes you to develop a female body, except without female internal organs, and with internal testes in place of ovaries). There's some speculation amongst doctors of an increased risk of the internal testicles in people with AIS becoming cancerous later in life, but to my knowledge there's no proof of that, and even if there is an increased risk, it's quite small (no more than the risk of breast cancer for instance). On the other hand, in conditions where gonadal dysgenesis has occurred (such as Swyer's Syndrome), the "streak gonads" (which are what develop in place of ovaries or testicles in cases of gonadal dysgenesis) do need to be removed. since they're not capable of producing hormones anyway, and there's a big risk of them becoming cancerous. However, with AIS, gonadectomy shouldn't be necessary, or certainly not until adulthood anyway.
You can be proud of yourself. So young and brave enough to put a face on an issue that is complicated and surrounded with so much prejudice. Thank you so much for posting your story. Also, you're very, very cute.
Pidgeon you are a beautiful person!!! Watching this vid i saw this person with what could only be described as an incredible aura! You have both inward and outward beauty, too bad there aren't more people like you. People like you bring more to the world and to the people around you, causing smiles giggles and all around good moods. I know this as i have been lucky enough to have had more than a couple of them as friends throughout my life.
At first I didn't know what intersex mean and so I was like imma watch this, because I was bored when I heard their voice I was like😱 I was like, this is cool😂
You do have a nice voice, but that's not why we listen to you, beyond the first few seconds. It's because you have good and important things to teach us.
So glad I found your channel. I had a pt that was also intersex. But her family k ew and the Dr wanted to wait till puberty to perform any surgery etc. Thanks for being so brave
Condition? In Germany we're about to acknowledge intersex officially as the 3rd biological Sex so in the passport will probably be "x" as an option next to "f" for female and "m" for male. Btw you're hella hot oml
That's true and false both. Yes, there is the option to have your legal gender/sex replaced by "divers" or an empty spot but medically speaking Germany is super far behind. Intersex is still taught to be a condition and surgeries on intersex folks, especially babies, are extremely common because surgeons make a ton of money with it. So, Germany is one of the many countries that still pathologizes intersex and contributes to the detriment of intersex people, whereas in Malta and Chile those surgeries are forbidden.
Thanks for sharing your story! I think that probably people like you are here to help us all question our beliefs and assumptions. My family is conservative and when they bring up bathroom issues, since they are intolerant of transgender people, I bring up intersex people, ambiguous from birth and I am sure dealing with the same issues. You are beautiful and I am glad you’re here!
You're amazing and super pretty!! Ever since I saw you on the buzzfeed intersex video I became really obsessed with you haha can't wait to see more from you!
I guess you should be, just a little. But forget Natalia, I've already picked you out to marry my son or daughter (don't care which). They're both happily heterosexually partnered up for the moment, but I can soon break that. LOL.
Subscribed after seeing you and your cool haircut/style yesterday in my feed. Thank you for your bravery to be informative and educating the world. You have a hard time with words. Lol
I recognize you from the intersexion documentary! So happy that you’ve started your own channel to educate others on intersex! Before my gender studies class I didn’t know much about it either and now I wish more people would begin to petition some kind of law that could stop non-consensual surgeries from happening on infants and children.
dear gawd. every time i hear a story like this, i get mad. i also love that you did your best to elucidate all on the science behind this, despite it not being your responsibility to explain your own existence. you did a fantastic job, obvs. thank you!
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I feel like all the dislikes are from anti trans people who think pigeon is some sort of trans person but were too ignorant to realize what intersex really means
There's an ancient Sumerian myth about a gender ambiguous person who is able to seduce the death godess with their beauty and mystery, however they trick the godess and free the godess of fertility whom the death godess was holding captive. the death goddess punishes this person by forcing them to be out cats and forever live in the shadows. However the goddess of fertility took pity on them and gave them the power of healing and prophecy.
Yeah, we're definitely fckn cursed as far as the 'forever out cast' thing.... Its like a cruel fckn joke that nature has played birthing us into a world that it KNOWS we will have to forever suffer & live with unearned "punishment" /mistreatment, suicide-inducing loneliness & ostracization, endless humiliation & dehumanization, & a long list of other messed up stuff for our entire lives... JUST because of how we we're born ..... Pigeon is lucky though... At least she/he doesn't have to endure being Intersex AND Black in this Hell called "Life"...
Our science teacher actually had a whole lesson about this! And I’m glad that I got to learn it, because everyone is so different. And it’s very good to have the knowledge about this, thanks for the video!
When I went to Nursing School in 1980, we learned that intersex babies used to be given surgery ASAP after they were born, to assign and correct their sex organs. That was the “standard of care”, thought to be in the child’s best interests, but it tended to have terrible consequences. I thought “wait and see” before surgery was today’s standard of care for intersex kids, but you had a different experience!
Yes they (the current medical establishment who is entrusted with our care) try to make it seem that way but it’s a lie... they are still more or else operating the same way... not enough has changed.
Pidgeon: I think the younger professionals value informed consent much more highly, and are less likely to be paternalistic, but it’s inherent in “professional ethics”. I’ve seen vast improvements during my life, but we must still demand high-quality healthcare, which is evidence-based!!!
@@sandrastreifel6452 yes, the younger folks are definitely way better. problem is, many of the older folks are still in charge of the peds uro and endo clinics and are able to exert their way of thinking... outwardly facing the try to paint a rosier picture, but they are still performing elective surgeries on intersex kids bodies for appearance sake... robbing us of our autonomy and often leaving us with medical issues. not to mention a lifelong dependency on healthcare in a country that doesn't have single payer--but that's another topic for another day.
I just want to hug you, not out of pity or anything but because you just seem so sweet and I can’t help but smile looking at you❤️ (sry if that sounded weird😂)
I've been seeing your Part 4, pop up in my recommendations lately... Thought I'd take a look at the first, and I have to say I love your attitude and the way you present your info. Very real, and I really appreciate this. Thank youu.
because it's so uncommon, many people would look down on the condition but it's incredibly brave of you to be very open about it. I've learned so much within 5 minutes! you're awesome :-)
My body developed male facial hair and body hair and odor and had semi male muscles and a private (but small), but my skeletal structure is feminine as I have small shoulders, small hands, and legs taller than my torso. About 4 weeks ago, my Testosterone level bottomed out, and my hips grew half an inch and starting curving as opposed to looking rectangular. My stomach grew round, my skin turned softer, and my eye lashes are now about 50% thicker. My glutes used to be small and rectangular, yet turned puffy and rectangular, then turned fat and round. I started growing breasts and have around a AA cup size now. I never really knew I wasn't 100% male until just the last 4 weeks. I haven't seen a doctor yet, but I bet if I have a Chromosome test done, I'll find out I'm XXY. I have lots of personality symptoms of Klinefelter's Syndrome, as well.
once I watched a Japanese tv drama about an intersex girl. that's when I found out about the condition and made my own research. and I am surprised that transexualism is spoken about more than the intersex, because intersex people have been here from the beginning of times and there a lot of historical evidences to that. when I was in louvre in Paris I saw that amazing sculpture of hermaphrodite and I got a feeling that in ancient times the intersex people were considered to be some sort of exotic god like beauty angels.
S B in many cultures around the world they were there was a tribe and I forgot what they were called but they lived in the Amazon and they believed that if there were intersex people they were worshipped because they were believed to literally be demigods however the Romans were not so kind they believed intersex people to be evil Omens and would literally burn them alive it's kind of sad
Pidgeon- I want to commend you for explaining your situation so well. Sadly, I learned about this in 1978 in college. When I would try to explain, people would tell me “that’s not true” or “they don’t know that”. Well obviously they DID know about it but evidently they didn’t share it within the medical community (before internet) fast enough. Heartbreaking that so many people have suffered needlessly. Thank you for sharing your truth!
Just found your video and need to make a few comments. 1) you did a great job explaining the situation. 2) not sure of your age but would say you are very mature to handle a topic like this on a public forum. 3) I learned a few things from your video , thank you.
don't worry over the little mistakes when sharing. it get's easier sharing on youtube the longer you share new video's. and please take breaks, it can be very easy to burn out with sharing over and over. it is good to see you sharing on YT.
+Pidgeon not to sure about the pro tips comment i honestly felt like an idiot most of the time... i mean i shared alot and some subjects hurt sharing. honestly i ended up stopping making videos in 2012 after getting alot of miss information being shared about me by other activists. someday i may share more it is good to see others though i mean having varying opinions and stories from others is good for everyone.
I just loved the way you explained the birth story and paediatrician thing p🤣. I’m a paediatrician and I could totally relate it 😚👍🏻👍🏻 you are awesome 😎
Listen! Listen! Your explanation was simply awesome. And lol you sound like me trying to say something important. Stumbling and tumbling over words. ❤️
Thanks for being cute and explaining about intersex. I am non binary androgynous or something but have lived as a male most of my life and fathered 3 kids. But hey, life is not that simple and I am coming to terms with who I really am and found someone who can relate to that.
I'm intersex as well and for whatever reason, your video was recommended to me without even typing this term in the search bar. 😂 All the best to you and greetings from North Germany. 😉
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Your gender is called FIIIINE
Seriously though...😍😍😍
Yes
I'm hearing a women voice but seeing a sexy men
I'm shook.....my heart is confused
Someone with Complete Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome (CIAS) cannot respond to testosterone including the vocal cords hence their voice will sound female. Someone with CAIS may not necessarily be androgynous looking and someone who is androgynous looking does not necessarily have CAIS
@@ZZ-lo3ek But CAIS are when the external genitalia are that of a female right? But this "it" over here, has a male body, so what is his type then ?
@@hyikun8123 Who has a male body?
@@hyikun8123 Female body. Complete CAIS look female at birth.
Kyra Allen I’m bi so I don’t care
Your voice😍
It's voice
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Dirk Slabbert It is voice? What?
honestly, so calming. such a beautiful soul.
socialwork63 no your not the only one I don't care what it is its beautiful❤
I'm also intersex, I was born in May 7 ,2005 when my doctor congratulated my mom and dad that a baby boy was born... After a few months mom notice that I have two girly legs, and so my mom and dad took me to the specialist as well but instead of the XY I literally and figuratively have XX which is a female genes... And now I'm 14 and my voice still sounds like a girl and my legs definitely looks like a girl and I grew a tiny boob... Thank you so much... I'm not alone... ☺
Albert Robin so, you have female characteristics, but you don’t have the insides of a female? if i offend you i totally apologize, just ignore it because that was NOT my intention. I’m really curious. I’m just now finding out about this.
@@isaacwgnr130 i- 💀
Albert Robin i am intersex too
Intersex gang
@David Leslie lmao internet scientists wannabe love diagnosing people they don't even know and haven't even met.
Wait, two girly legs?!?!? After few months you born? So... what did your legs look like then?
People please learn the difference between intersex and transgender before you comment. It's already bad enough that people need to know the difference before they decide to be hateful because some can deal with a intersex person and not a transgender person. It's sad that people can't just decide on if they like a person or not because of how they act or treats that person, instead of what they look like and or do with their life. It's also sad that people can't just act mature and keep it moving when they come across someone they are disgusted by for dumb reasons most of the time. We really have let history get to us in so many ways and not for the best.
This is probably a weird thing to say but I really like the sound of your voice
*clears throat* why thank you ;)
Inclinedtorecline same 😂
Inclinedtorecline me too!😗
Me too
Dude same
Pidgeon should become a model....would love to see Pidgeon as the face of Chanel
imsailormars too hot for Chanel tbh
Hes a guy he cant be a model dumbass
Manvir Sandhu Pidgeon is Intersex.
Also chanel wasn’t born a boy, she confirmed this In Ridiculousness. Its a celebrity that looks like her but is a dude and isnt her.
Mauro Pereira I’m sure they were talking about the BRAND Chanel 😂😂😂 and there a such thing as male models!^
I really appreciate you talking about this!! it just annoys me when people confuse intersex with transgender...
keep up the good work!! loved it!!
Please don't get annoyed. Just continue to educate. I assumed pigeon was a hermaphrodite when I saw the title.
ty lynn- educate more the word hermaphrodite has the same meaning as intersex it's said to be a nicer way of saying it! I'm annoyed that SCT(so-called transgender's ) claim intersex when they are not, it's horrible to lie to get your way claiming to be something you are not! More people are becoming annoyed with SCT as they should be! Good day!
Channeling Natasha
I agree with you 100%! This transgende hijacking is become enough already!!!
Dr. Alan Rothschild Trans people claim to be intersex?
You look super interesting like you look like a perfect mix of both genders , like I know that’s what intersex is but it’s just so fascinating 🤩
I agree it’s really interesting
Mixed genders
Intersex doesn't mean "mixed genders" or anything like that. It's about sex chromosomes, genitals, reproductive organs, hormones etc. Gender is the social and psychological expression of traits we often associate with certain binary sexes. Intersex people can be of any gender- masculine, feminine, etc. Pidgeon for example is nonbinary. They don't identify on the male-female spectrum of gender. Hope that helps!
mario yea
but if you are really intersex but many years about are human civilization bud i learning in astral with mystic arts but many learning be in but if i can have a time but a problem with fascinating intersex but I am interested in the theme of hermaphrodites, but what causes what you are now, but in the depths of the soul can be induced the possibility of reincarnation but that it affects it is 7% -12% of the population what if you like the soul? but that you are born as I was before I wrote if I was in your place so if doctors, although in quotation marks can not find anything, and unless you let the icecat do hysterectomy but I would say "when I was born so I die to old age when I chose this to best save burning karma and also helped mankind to understand that there are people who do not act as Orthodox medicine Men and Woman say but how many times in history there were many signs of being born in animals also hermaphrodites are part of the whole of nature and not only affects both humans and animals are as old as animals, what if it is a kind of anomaly which is the highest creator imagination and the experience of the whole planet and people and other extra-planet populations but we are not the exception it is everywhere but we are also not in the universe ourselves here and mini whose goals are to help us and others and others want to destroy us will be better when we choose light
I really hope doctors will quit making snap decisions and will help intersex folks live their lives in that in-between, middle ground, or help them to the gender they want, instead of forcing a bad compromise. Growing up figuring out you're gay can be tough enough. Learning you're intersex, or having it be obvious, has got to be tough to deal with. -- Hey, best wishes to you. It takes courage to face life's rough times for being different. :hug:
How can somebody dislike a video of someone literally just conveying the fact they were born with ambiguous genitalia, this is a very informational video in general
Edit:
I noticed comments on this comment suggesting the dislike ratio could be from the poor editing quality of the video or another un-known reason .
i hope others may take that into consideration ,as i have myself now.
Jak -no. Because nowadays there are ignorant people who prefer to be stupid, but that's why there are sensible and understanding people like us.
Why assume that they're thumbing down because of the subject? The video was poorly edited and very jumpy and confusing.
yeah
@@sabrinasavage8040 yeah
@@sabrinasavage8040 it could be the editing i hope your right
I saw you on buzz feed and thought you were amazing! Didn't know you had a TH-cam channel until now though. I think it's great you're spreading awareness and understanding of intersex people, keep doing what you're doing lovely!
Thanks boo
I, too, am intersex (AIS, here too). LOVE the video. I feel SOOOO alone. Thanks for making me feel normal!
herm hugs!
@gayTouretteandOCDer no you are not alone we are all here for each other no matter what even if we are strangers and far away from each other, LOVE, PEACE, HUGS :'(
Crushed Belette no body chooses to be born with a different type of genitalia than the norm stop beige a troll . These are not Transgender you troll they are people born with both or ambiguous genitalia which is a normal mutation and none of your business love all and stop trying to rile people up
gayTouretteandOCDer I hope you don’t feel alone anymore!
You're not alone. But you're not normal either. Not being mean, jus realistic. This condition is too rare to be normal.
How ignorant and weird that almost 400 people gave this a thumbs down. It’s genetics people of the dark ages! It’s God’s creation. And it’s common. Sorry to pop your Adam and Eve bubble. 🙄
Scott Riddle it's not Gods creation. God created Adam and Eve perfect, NO human being is perfect, that's why we get old and die. Sin is the cause of disease, old age and death.
Carol Evans Actually, God did NOT create Adam and Eve perfect because if he did they wouldn’t have ate the fruit from the tree.
Carol Evans What a ridiculous thing to say!
Carol Evans that’s right.
Rotten_Apple 101 that was human choice lol
Your voice / accent is my favorite thing! It’s so pure and soothing
A Sens you mean this person clearly has no culture or heritage? Yeah.
Diamond.Cr00ks what? Obviously everyone has an accent no matter where they’re from.
I've never heard of this till now
thanks for stopping by and learning :)
Sarah Soliman intersex people probably have to figure their gender out by themselves. If you watch the vid again you can see pigeon says they are intersex and non binary. Sex:intersex gender:non binary. I’m sure there are binary intersex people too.
even till now I have not listen but I respect these people
dont they teach this stuff at schools? kids should be learning this in bio...
Youve never heard of a hemephrodite?
I grew up with an intersex friend, my friend's family came from Kenya to receive surgery and my grandmother paid for their housing and food during their stay. She visited the family 3 times a week and always brought me to play with the children. They dressed my friend as a girl for so long because of Faith's voice and then after a few years,Faith began developing men features, which resulted in the family changing Faith's entire identity. When I was young I didn't really understand, but I always felt so sorry for Faith. Faith was always miserable. I'm glad you have the courage to speak for those who feel so alone in the world. ❤️
you're kinda attractive, man.
as in gender neutral term.
Swaroma909 Dair dats a women, well kind of, um
@David Leslie no INTERSEX or do male chromosomes mean nothing to you? Also Pigeon Identifies as non conforming - sorry but these are the facts.
Ser glian but no thing 😕
@David Leslie They are intersex biogical, and identified as a non binary
Hahah good one
Wow! Good for you for telling your story, I'm a RN and I've been telling people for years that some people are born this way, and a lot of people didn't believe it's possible and didn't really want to hear about it. I'm sorry your parents were so mis informed that you had to undergo unnessesary surgery, you seem like a really good and happy person, thanks for sharing something so personal, I wish you the best
Thank you for a wonderful film and a job well done. I am also an intersex person. My intersex variation of cryptorchild. I want to say that no matter who you are intersex,gay,polysexual,transgender,demisexual,panromantic,non binary and so on,you deserve happiness. Your orientation,gender identity or intersex variation is just a feature of your biology,there is no need to be afraid of this or something like that, you need to be a good person and bring good to the world. Good luck to you! And sorry for the grammatical errors in the text.
Oh my gosh! I just got my national geographic in the mail and I screamed. My mom asked me what was wrong and I just yelled "PIDGEON"! I'm so happy that you are on the cover! And there are really good articles in this issue. I will be keeping it for a long time.
You’re amazing. I love you. An inspiration 💖
Eden my queen
Eden The Doll - hey Eden im in love with ur brother
Thank you love ❤️
Eden ! 😍🖤🖤🖤🖤
I always thought that I was a fairly fluid thinker but I have to admit I probably would have based my decisions around what was right for my baby on the advice and ‘expertise’ of medical professionals. Thank you for sharing your incredible story and for enlightening me. Whilst I doubt that I’ll ever have to have these conversations with a Dr, I can honestly say that I would never now consider making a decision for my child before they were able to communicate their identity to me themselves. You’re a real inspiration, I’m so sorry that you ever went through this but, because of you, many other intersex children will never have to. ✌🏼
Wow. The doctors lied about needing your gonads removed. Actually in the US and UK some were trained to lie about this because it would be too hard for parents to handle. I would leave my kid alone and see how they develop.
moi I am a doctor and you literally talk shit, gonads need to be removed due to high risk of germ cell cancers.
InfiniteBeach34 You’re no doctor.😂😂😂🙄
Panga LeeLee enjoy your teratoma :)
Panga LeeLee I actually am, I graduated last june but why would I try to convince some random person on internet?
Okuhle Osh No no, you dont see. This cancer risk is only increased for people with XY chromosome but showing female characteristics. For females with XX chromosomes gonadectomy is not neccessary. This guy surely needed it.
Mind 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯you learn something new everyday! Much love & respect! Hands down to you for sharing your story! Now...lol I have to watch again! Lol to make sure I get what you are sayin. ☺️😁
I love it when people appreciate new/different qualities about others - rather than disrespecting and shutting down their explanation. xx
Ooh! I love that an intersex individual is also hitting the youtube scene. Thank you for educating the general population. Quick note, gonads is the word used for the sex organs regardless of how testicle like or ovaries-like they are.
I had something similar happen when my child was born. When I gave birth, immediately said it's a boy! Which is what I already knew due to ultrasound. Shortly after, the nurses and doctors were confused as to why my son didn't have testicles. The sack was there but nothing was inside of them. Btw, this hospital was shitty because it was a small town hospital and the doctors weren't equipped to take on what was about to happen next. So the doctor comes in and point blank rudely tells me "we don't know what IT is". Excuse me? It? The fuck? That's my child and I literally just went through hell (20 hours labor) I'm tired and you're being rude? He then says something along the lines (it's been almost 10 years so I don't remember word for word so please excuse my memory) "we don't know what your child is because we don't see any testicles. We don't know if it's a male without testicles or a female with a VERY enlarged clitoris. If your child is male but has ovaries your child can die". Here I am a 19 year old single, scared to death mother hearing something is going on with her baby. 😳 so because the hospital was small they didn't have the equipment needed to actually determine his DNA and do all that jazz. The only thing they could do was use an ultrasound on his abdomen to see if he had testicles. They couldn't find them so he ended up staying the night but the next morning he was transported by ambulance to a children's hospital 2 hours away (which is in the city I currently live now). I was released after I was suppose to stay my visit and went straight to where he was. The children's hospital apologized to me for such bad behavior those moronic doctors and nurses at the little hospital had. They told me that it wasn't super common but that they had seen a few cases and was going to run all kinds of tests to figure out what was going on. In the end, he had a chromosomal analysis done and I had to wait on the results to come in (not sure how long it took) but he was in fact 100% male. The other thing they did was check to see if it was ovaries or testicles. It was of course testicles and that they were undescended. So he ended up having surgery at 13 months to drop them into his sack. They waited til then because they said usually at a year testicles will drop if they haven't by birth. He's not intersex but I just wanted to share my story because it was sort of similar at the beginning as far as "what are the organs in the abdomen" thing. It was definitely scary for me especially being a teen. His dad wasn't in the picture. He refused to come to the hospital for his birth so my parents were there. My dad went the hell off on the hospital for their unprofessional conduct and how they immediately told me he was going to die if he had ovaries. They did say that having the surgery would be the best option if they didn't drop because he was at higher risk for cancer.
I'm so sorry they exhibited such unprofessional behavior towards you. We need to get rid of the binary concept of sex and gender. It's an illusion. We exist in a spectrum. A healthy, beautiful, spectrum. This type of unnecessary trauma is UNNECESSARY.
MSLT thanks for sharing. I too had a horrible experience with a shitty hospital and staff. This was 14 years ago before they had patient surveys and all that. I also was young and didn't know how to handle it. My daughter's situation was different, but none the less had do deal with ignorant staff on top of it. I'm glad your dad put them in their place.
That Dr. was terribly rude OMG
Hospitals shouldn't be rude like that regardless. I was born with a cyst and they had the gall to tell my mom I was "deformed" She was horrified of course, turns out it was nothing serious at all.
you did a really good job pidgeon! I'll be excited to watch more.
thanks for the encouragement!!
Thanks Carly!!
1:00 "let me sniff peppermint " bahahha im so dead
Lol 3 minutes into the video and I'm still focused on your name being pigeon😂😂
Sorry to hear about what happened. It sounds like yet another case of doctors carrying out unnecessary and harmful surgery on an intersex person. If you have AIS then the gonadectomy was not only unnecessary, but actually harmful, as it's removed what were functioning hormone-producing organs, and has unnecessarily made you dependent on HRT for the remainder of your life.
A person with AIS develops testicles just like an XY male does, it's just that the mutation that causes AIS means that your body doesn't respond to testosterone, so all your development takes place as if there was no testosterone present (which causes you to develop a female body, except without female internal organs, and with internal testes in place of ovaries). There's some speculation amongst doctors of an increased risk of the internal testicles in people with AIS becoming cancerous later in life, but to my knowledge there's no proof of that, and even if there is an increased risk, it's quite small (no more than the risk of breast cancer for instance).
On the other hand, in conditions where gonadal dysgenesis has occurred (such as Swyer's Syndrome), the "streak gonads" (which are what develop in place of ovaries or testicles in cases of gonadal dysgenesis) do need to be removed. since they're not capable of producing hormones anyway, and there's a big risk of them becoming cancerous. However, with AIS, gonadectomy shouldn't be necessary, or certainly not until adulthood anyway.
you're spot on and super knowledgeable :) thanks for watching!
Hugh Easton it’s not really unessesary
Hugh Easto
+Hugh Easton That's really interesting. I always took the necessity of gonadectomy as gospel in AIS. Thanks for making me re-think it.
Except that in complete AIS the body cannot respond to testosterone from the abdominal testes and so a person with CAIS will need oestrogen therapy.
Gosh you’re beautiful, inside and out...thank you for this explanation, I watched with my 14 year old son to educate him 😍
I just love how confident you're about your body, it's inspiring.
You can be proud of yourself. So young and brave enough to put a face on an issue that is complicated and surrounded with so much prejudice. Thank you so much for posting your story. Also, you're very, very cute.
Pidgeon you are a beautiful person!!! Watching this vid i saw this person with what could only be described as an incredible aura! You have both inward and outward beauty, too bad there aren't more people like you. People like you bring more to the world and to the people around you, causing smiles giggles and all around good moods. I know this as i have been lucky enough to have had more than a couple of them as friends throughout my life.
At first I didn't know what intersex mean and so I was like imma watch this, because I was bored when I heard their voice I was like😱 I was like, this is cool😂
Thank gawd I have this voice, or I don't know if anyone would subscribe lol ;)
You do have a nice voice, but that's not why we listen to you, beyond the first few seconds. It's because you have good and important things to teach us.
So glad I found your channel. I had a pt that was also intersex. But her family k ew and the Dr wanted to wait till puberty to perform any surgery etc. Thanks for being so brave
I’m intersex too. So I know how you feelllll I got my mother’s face. My fathers legs sort of but I’m taller than both. And I have XY (Male)
Is this a joke cause I’m 100% sure your lying
Condition? In Germany we're about to acknowledge intersex officially as the 3rd biological Sex so in the passport will probably be "x" as an option next to "f" for female and "m" for male.
Btw you're hella hot oml
Oh that's cool
That's true and false both. Yes, there is the option to have your legal gender/sex replaced by "divers" or an empty spot but medically speaking Germany is super far behind. Intersex is still taught to be a condition and surgeries on intersex folks, especially babies, are extremely common because surgeons make a ton of money with it. So, Germany is one of the many countries that still pathologizes intersex and contributes to the detriment of intersex people, whereas in Malta and Chile those surgeries are forbidden.
USA sucks
So basically he’s a boy whose balls never dropped. And his body produces too much estrogen because of it or blocks testosterone.
Thanks for sharing your story! I think that probably people like you are here to help us all question our beliefs and assumptions. My family is conservative and when they bring up bathroom issues, since they are intolerant of transgender people, I bring up intersex people, ambiguous from birth and I am sure dealing with the same issues. You are beautiful and I am glad you’re here!
You're amazing and super pretty!! Ever since I saw you on the buzzfeed intersex video I became really obsessed with you haha can't wait to see more from you!
obsessed?? should I be worried ;) ?
I guess you should be, just a little. But forget Natalia, I've already picked you out to marry my son or daughter (don't care which). They're both happily heterosexually partnered up for the moment, but I can soon break that. LOL.
im trying to be respectful. so what are your pronouns? like would you rather be called he/him /she/her or they/them ?
Maja Imani I like they them... ☺️
Pidgeon u got it love🤟🏽🤟🏽💞
Shim/shem
I'm intersex. I have turners syndrome, when a female has only one X chromosome. I have only known for less than a year and I'm a teenager.
OMG. Your personality and your sense of humor gives me life. Subscribed to see how this story unfolds.
Subscribed after seeing you and your cool haircut/style yesterday in my feed. Thank you for your bravery to be informative and educating the world. You have a hard time with words. Lol
ADHD is a pain in the butt.
Love you no matter what. We are here for you pidgeon. ♡
I'm learning about this in my endocrinology class this semester, but it is really interesting to hear you speak about it!
This was so interesting, I can't wait to see more Pidgeon!
Thanks Candy
Mychael's Channel
I recognize you from the intersexion documentary! So happy that you’ve started your own channel to educate others on intersex! Before my gender studies class I didn’t know much about it either and now I wish more people would begin to petition some kind of law that could stop non-consensual surgeries from happening on infants and children.
dear gawd. every time i hear a story like this, i get mad. i also love that you did your best to elucidate all on the science behind this, despite it not being your responsibility to explain your own existence. you did a fantastic job, obvs. thank you!
Hey Pidgeon (and viewers)! I'm Ryan Little. Super honored to have my music in this video. Be sure to subscribe to my channel for more dope music and new releases :)
hey Ryan! Thanks for making dope beats to step to 🙏🏽
You are amazing❤️
Keep going!
u too sweet 😊
Will do... thanks for the encouragement
Pidgeon
I hate that the doctors convince the parents to choose
Thankyou for comforting me. I am intersex too but I think I'm more a woman but everyone bullied me growing up because they thought I was more a man.
Your my biggest inspiration
I’m so sorry that happened. I hope brighter days are ahead for you 🙏🏼
@@pidgepagonis thankyou so much !!
This is the first time I’m getting a more detailed explanation on what intersexuality is-thank you so much-I’m happy to have a better understanding
I love your courage and bringing awareness ❤️😻
I feel like all the dislikes are from anti trans people who think pigeon is some sort of trans person but were too ignorant to realize what intersex really means
There's an ancient Sumerian myth about a gender ambiguous person who is able to seduce the death godess with their beauty and mystery, however they trick the godess and free the godess of fertility whom the death godess was holding captive. the death goddess punishes this person by forcing them to be out cats and forever live in the shadows. However the goddess of fertility took pity on them and gave them the power of healing and prophecy.
Yeah, we're definitely fckn cursed as far as the 'forever out cast' thing.... Its like a cruel fckn joke that nature has played birthing us into a world that it KNOWS we will have to forever suffer & live with unearned "punishment" /mistreatment, suicide-inducing loneliness & ostracization, endless humiliation & dehumanization, & a long list of other messed up stuff for our entire lives... JUST because of how we we're born ..... Pigeon is lucky though... At least she/he doesn't have to endure being Intersex AND Black in this Hell called "Life"...
@@luminescent__ You are an angel
Our science teacher actually had a whole lesson about this! And I’m glad that I got to learn it, because everyone is so different. And it’s very good to have the knowledge about this, thanks for the video!
When I went to Nursing School in 1980, we learned that intersex babies used to be given surgery ASAP after they were born, to assign and correct their sex organs. That was the “standard of care”, thought to be in the child’s best interests, but it tended to have terrible consequences. I thought “wait and see” before surgery was today’s standard of care for intersex kids, but you had a different experience!
Yes they (the current medical establishment who is entrusted with our care) try to make it seem that way but it’s a lie... they are still more or else operating the same way... not enough has changed.
Pidgeon: I think the younger professionals value informed consent much more highly, and are less likely to be paternalistic, but it’s inherent in “professional ethics”. I’ve seen vast improvements during my life, but we must still demand high-quality healthcare, which is evidence-based!!!
@@sandrastreifel6452 yes, the younger folks are definitely way better. problem is, many of the older folks are still in charge of the peds uro and endo clinics and are able to exert their way of thinking... outwardly facing the try to paint a rosier picture, but they are still performing elective surgeries on intersex kids bodies for appearance sake... robbing us of our autonomy and often leaving us with medical issues. not to mention a lifelong dependency on healthcare in a country that doesn't have single payer--but that's another topic for another day.
Huuuuh there should be more intersex people in the world, such a beautiful creation from heaven so unique and undefined!!! Human life is dope ❤️
I just want to hug you, not out of pity or anything but because you just seem so sweet and I can’t help but smile looking at you❤️ (sry if that sounded weird😂)
Can I marry this human.
Ye tumse sadi kyo kregi
I've been seeing your Part 4, pop up in my recommendations lately... Thought I'd take a look at the first, and I have to say I love your attitude and the way you present your info. Very real, and I really appreciate this. Thank youu.
because it's so uncommon, many people would look down on the condition but it's incredibly brave of you to be very open about it. I've learned so much within 5 minutes! you're awesome :-)
I love this so much 💚
yay!
Mari S l
Pidgeon lll
My body developed male facial hair and body hair and odor and had semi male muscles and a private (but small), but my skeletal structure is feminine as I have small shoulders, small hands, and legs taller than my torso. About 4 weeks ago, my Testosterone level bottomed out, and my hips grew half an inch and starting curving as opposed to looking rectangular. My stomach grew round, my skin turned softer, and my eye lashes are now about 50% thicker. My glutes used to be small and rectangular, yet turned puffy and rectangular, then turned fat and round. I started growing breasts and have around a AA cup size now. I never really knew I wasn't 100% male until just the last 4 weeks. I haven't seen a doctor yet, but I bet if I have a Chromosome test done, I'll find out I'm XXY. I have lots of personality symptoms of Klinefelter's Syndrome, as well.
Stop wishing to become part of the trend.
@@michaelr.4878 its not a trend. Its genetics
once I watched a Japanese tv drama about an intersex girl. that's when I found out about the condition and made my own research. and I am surprised that transexualism is spoken about more than the intersex, because intersex people have been here from the beginning of times and there a lot of historical evidences to that.
when I was in louvre in Paris I saw that amazing sculpture of hermaphrodite and I got a feeling that in ancient times the intersex people were considered to be some sort of exotic god like beauty angels.
S B in many cultures around the world they were there was a tribe and I forgot what they were called but they lived in the Amazon and they believed that if there were intersex people they were worshipped because they were believed to literally be demigods however the Romans were not so kind they believed intersex people to be evil Omens and would literally burn them alive it's kind of sad
Pidgeon- I want to commend you for explaining your situation so well. Sadly, I learned about this in 1978 in college. When I would try to explain, people would tell me “that’s not true” or “they don’t know that”. Well obviously they DID know about it but evidently they didn’t share it within the medical community (before internet) fast enough. Heartbreaking that so many people have suffered needlessly. Thank you for sharing your truth!
Just found your video and need to make a few comments.
1) you did a great job explaining the situation.
2) not sure of your age but would say you are very mature to handle a topic like this on a public forum.
3) I learned a few things from your video , thank you.
don't worry over the little mistakes when sharing. it get's easier sharing on youtube the longer you share new video's. and please take breaks, it can be very easy to burn out with sharing over and over. it is good to see you sharing on YT.
thanks for the advice & pro-tips 🙌🏽
+Pidgeon not to sure about the pro tips comment i honestly felt like an idiot most of the time... i mean i shared alot and some subjects hurt sharing. honestly i ended up stopping making videos in 2012 after getting alot of miss information being shared about me by other activists. someday i may share more it is good to see others though i mean having varying opinions and stories from others is good for everyone.
+Kailana Alaniz sorry, just meant to say thank you for your kind and excellent tips
I just loved the way you explained the birth story and paediatrician thing p🤣. I’m a paediatrician and I could totally relate it 😚👍🏻👍🏻 you are awesome 😎
Shruti Shinde what country are you in?
India :)
I know this is supposed to be serious/informative but your corky personality made me laugh a few times so I had to subscribe lol
yay! I love making people laugh
Listen! Listen! Your explanation was simply awesome. And lol you sound like me trying to say something important. Stumbling and tumbling over words. ❤️
As a human bio major you’ve done a better job at explaining the science better than my professors
Your voice literally shocked me! My eyes bugged out lol
for some reason i never realized red heads are that rare. i just thought there were more in certain places like ireland or something
I have Swyer "syndrome" but nobody knew until I was 17. Yay for intersex.
Such an important video. thank you so much for being so open. The more intersex awareness and visibility the better!
Mind blown 🤯... what an incredible world we live in, clicked because of how unfamiliar the word intersex was, very impressed with how open you are
Wow! I had no idea about all of this. Thank you so much for the information. New subbie
kmhtigger I love that you said subbie! watch the end of my latest video :)
Thanks for sharing your story! I enjoyed watching this and learning
thanks so much! I'm uploading a new video soon!
Hi intersex, I'm dad
(Literally haven't even watched the video yet lmao)
I think you are an amazing human being. I hope that you continue to educate others through your personal experiences and true charisma.
Your personality is adorable and I love how much you smile omg. You explain this really well
What pronouns do you use?
I use gender neutral--but more on that in the next video ;)
Ok I'll be patient :)
Pidgeon so they/them?
Perhaps "it" and and or "itself"?
Felicity Ray Self way to be derogatory... Jackass.
Thanks for being cute and explaining about intersex. I am non binary androgynous or something but have lived as a male most of my life and fathered 3 kids. But hey, life is not that simple and I am coming to terms with who I really am and found someone who can relate to that.
Ralph Beardmore how can you relate to this person? Its an deformity. Its way different from your stupid other non existent gemders.
+Kathy And The Machine you're literally insulting both the original commenter and Pidgeon in this comment so get off their channel
Kirstyn Morris nah i have the right to be here
+Kathy And The Machine you have the right to do what you want but we don't have the right to be ourselves. got it ;)
Kirstyn Morris uh no i don't understand. I'm just telling this person about unisex is a deformity. Unless you don't understand logic and common sense.
ahhh
oml
you are so cute
OML thank you
You are amazing and you did an EXCELLENT job on your first video let alone being vulnerable! You should be so proud of yourself!
Omg I love everything about you. Your appearance, your voice, your personality, and your shirt lmao
you might be my new baeeeee....
yeah probs
I think you're so cool. I wanna be your friend.
you gassing me up.
As a straight, cisman, *I FIND YOU EXTREMELY HOT!*
I’m mad confused now because you’re like really pretty in a manly way but I’m straight but I think now I might be bi curious from watching this video.
Good on you for educating folks!
I'm intersex as well and for whatever reason, your video was recommended to me without even typing this term in the search bar. 😂
All the best to you and greetings from North Germany. 😉
I just saw your shirt and
oml I love it
Natalya Kobiatchi I make them! Follow @toocutetobebinary on instagram 💕👽💜
Is it just me... or do they look like zac efron in the thumbnail?
you look like zac efron tbh
Lully Bay omg yes yes
where
WAIT NO I SEE IT
And in Peru there's a model named Sebastian Lizarzaburu identical to this person.
I love the vibes you give off ☺️❤️ can't wait for more episodes 😋
Fascinating and informative and just chill. Thank you for sharing your story and educating! And Pidgeon is the best name EVER!