Ernst, main stream media are brainwashing people with a marxist skewed referring to the South Africal political past as "during Apartheid" and the political present as "during Democracy". It is time for you and the Solidarity Movement to change this lying narrative please.
Finally!! A rational, educated, forensic mind with the accompanying language to express what needs to be said. 😊 Please get out there and speak to our youth. They need to hear this.
Agree 💯, this is why Zuma deluxe says that the Dutch Roman law system must be scrapped as 🖤🖤🖤 people cannot understand them or life by them as thy have tribal council law's 😂😂
Orania is looking for residents. Otherwise there’s Kleinfontein, another Afrikaner settlement near Pretoria. You could just get together and create another Orania.
@@bevturner2258Exactly, those who want an independant homeland, it is not going to happen until the majority votes for a government that will allow it. And the chances of that is remote if not nil. But self sufficiency (as per Orania) or moving to WC is the short term solution and keeping them successfull and keeping all inhabitants happy long term is the next project. Federalism (as understood in the west) is also not going to be allowed to happen in the political sphere. Again not until the improbable / impossible happens where the majority votes for it or a government allowing it.
But your problem is that the white people are the minority in country, 😢😢😢😢😢😢, you sit with majority of population who since few years only get a 30 % pass rate grade 12 certificate as want to become lawyers chartered accountants bank officials 💊💊💊 pilots for SAA 😂😂😂😂, it cannot change
Martin van Staden remains a spectacular political analyst in the same vein as RW Johnson and that ilk of intellectual, social and philosophical giants this country has had benefit of the voices of.
Elon Musk 🤣😂🤣 is like Mark Shuttleworth who are not interested in South Africa unless they can make money 🤑💰 on their terms,if Starlink ever is allowed in South Africa then you know he did a under the carpet deal 🤝 with ANC cadres or Rama himself seeing they met in New York recently, never trust a ANC cadres or a white South African who left the country and became rich overseas 😂😂😂😂
Starlink will go around the World and will be free.ANC were a total failure.Theyve destroyed all that was beautiful and good and functioned.And having only 30% of those who actually voted is not a success but shows no confidence Yet ANC are still acting as if they have total power and control
IT is important to NOT underplay the impacts of BEE or in in fact voluntary on compliance to BEE as it not only impacts access to STATE TENDERS but many, many private businesses, corporates and enterprises themselves will voluntarily EXCLUDE your non compliant business from supply and services or any dealings whatsoever.
In reality white owned companies get the bulk of state tenders and contracts while black owned companies get less than 1% of contracts in the private sector. You cry baby
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Morgan Freeman was asked how do you get rid of racism..he said stop talking about it
Please read Cuan Elgin's book called Bulala (aba tagati) it's a great read about our history ...how we came to be .. The sequel is Return to the Covenant by Cuan Elgin.
I am not that well-articulated and just say it as it is. OIL and WATER do not mix and only once someone can develop a formula to get past this issue, we will always have racism problems in this country but is also evident still in many parts of the world especially the USA. But the formula is actually very simple. Known as RESPECT - Respect for other cultures, the law, and each other.
Makes me think of Thomas Sowell youtube videos & books ( Affirmative Action Around the World: An Empirical Study and Preferential policies ). Its a wrong response to Apartheid not respecting property rights abuse & racial preferences by dong the same.
Praktiese stappe vir die algemene man op straat om te volg om dit teen te staan op groot skaal sal help. Almal weet dit vir die afgelope 30 jaar. Hoop julle jonger generasie sal beter leiding gee aan gemeenskappe om dit om te keer. Ek glo baie sit en wag vir leiding ... aanlyn. Dankie
Ons sal maar onder mekaar moet begin koop en verkoop en dienste lewer. M.a.w ons kan mekaar ondersteun i.p.v op staat kontrakte en ander groepe steun. Dit is wat die Moslems en Jode doen. Orania wys ons kan, maar sonder om ons af te sonder soos hulle.
Dankie! PRAKTIESE stappe is die oplossing, oneindige You Tube videos waarin vertel word wat ons lankal weet selfs nog voor baie politici gaan ons nerens bring nie maar dit lyk vir my dis nou die nuwe norm.
But just remember the younger generation only need a 30 % pass rate since recently, these same 🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤 people want to become lawyers doctor 💊 chartered accountants with such a certificate , 😢😢😢 history in South Africa had taught us never to trust 🖤🖤🖤🖤 Look what happened to Sarel Cilliers and Dingaan in 1800 causing the battle of Blood River, this is the biggest problem with South Africa
@@eisbeinGermany Ongelukkig word selfs ons jonger generasie deur die 30% geraak en die hartseer is baie maak nie matriek nie. Daar is n behoefte aan volwasse onderrig en dit gaan lank vat as n mens alles net in afrikaans wil doen. Daar moet voorsiening gemaak word vir afrikaans en engels. Aanlyn is n manier om ook meer te bereik en is nie net n "woke" intervensie nie. Daar is baie kwalifikasies rakende BEE wetgewing, minder word bereik deur hoe dit om te swaai in die werkplek op n wetlike manier. Probeer meer mense te bereik, aanlyn. Ongelukkig kan baie nie ledegeld betaal nie. Maar baie kan hul kantoor beskikbaar stel vir klein groepe jongmense aanlyn. Sal seker tyd neem om die kopskuif te maak, maar na 30 jaar kan dit seker gedoen word.
A hand out is not a good intention. Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day teach him to fish and he will thrive and live to feed himself and family. Dont ctiple the people of SA grow them to be awesome.
Great discussion, it certainly applies to many western culture countries. It also applies to illegal immigration, which is impacting many countries economies, as well as increasing crime and poverty in those countries. It is puzzling why the government’s are letting million’s of criminals, and uneducated people into their countries, unless it is to increase the number of ‘rent seeking’ programs for votes and control of the population. Identity politics is expanding in the U.S., which means it is a very successful operation. Affirmative action works! (for the Marxist government) Thanks again for the interesting and informative interview’s.
One of the negatives of BEE is that companies have outsourced software development to what they see as more component companies because building software teams means you have to choose the best team or the projects just get to expensive... basically companies have in essence stopped building for the long term.. its a major concern..
Precisely. It's hard but rewarding to build a proper software development team, and very expensive to outsource to an inefficient 100% BEE compliant entity. Speaking from experience..
I am all for personal freedom from any perspective but surely to be educated about all perspectives, one must get different perspectives in addition to this echo chamber
BEE must be abolished in its entirety or development will remain stagnant. Why has south africa not been taken to the International Court of Justice?? DA has been *VERY COMPLICIT* on the BEE policy, that has been very benificial for white owned corporates and industry (there are many reasons) that have taken full advantage of the corrupt government and their cabal, have stiffled or prevented competition, and have maintained *BIG BUSINESS MONOPOLIES* ,
Well, instead of using BEE or BBBEE , use your own apartheid words. Try job reservation. Much the same thing, it’s about exclusion based on race. Only difference is the preferred colour is now reversed.
This a typical case of lawfare where laws are reinterpreted for political expediency for being convenient and subterfuge despite for being improper or immoral as retribution to the previous dispensation and increasing ill-gotten gains with perpetuation of Ineptocracy due to kakistocracy and this is clear with the current governANCe in South Africa! Ineptocracy - “A system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers”. Kakistocracy - a government in which the worst people are in charge
Ek stem 100% saam met Rian ons praat en praat oor goed wat ons al gatvol voor is maar die You Tube ding is mos lekker dit gee ons relevansie terwyl die mense vrek van ellende in plakkerskampe. Al wat van belang is is politieke partye se onderlinge gevegte en mislukkings asof hulle ons leiers is wat ons iewers gaan bring en niemand kom dit agter nie.
Vraag groot asb? So. Sars gee ons geld vir ( Treasury') en dan word die geld uit gegee en in meeste gevale gesteel. So Hoekom stop SARS nie vir Treasury' en vra vrae en so dink ek dat dir geld wat gemors word links en regs terug gegee word aan die taxpayer's
It’s not about how many race laws there were before 1994 compared to after 1994. It’s about how those laws were enforced. Have you ever been forcibly removed from your home because you're living in the wrong area? Maybe you've forgotten that homes were bulldozed to the ground because the area was being cleared for Whites. Ever been arrested and thrown in a police van because you didn't have your dompas with you? I could go on, but there's no point. It's in the past. But please be honest enough to acknowledge what happened during apartheid.
"But please be honest enough to acknowledge what happened during apartheid." Not only during apartheid also before apartheid, acknowledge the brutal attacks on the Voortrekkers at Blood River, Blaauw Krans, Moord Drif, Weenen, and many more other places where whites were brutally attacked and whole families wiped out.
@@nedor64 South Africa has a bloody history indeed. I’m not minimising what happened to Afrikaners at all. My great granny was Afrikaans and suffered at the hands of the British in a concentration camp during the Anglo Boer War. Her stories were horrifying. The fact is that every group has suffered loss. Fighting over land is never civilised. War is devastating.
You gloss over the problem of poverty in SA by saying it can be fixed. It is however, a fact of life here. 75% of South African workers earn less than R6,000 per month. We have one of the most unequal societies in the world. That’s the problem the ANC government has been unable to fix. That’s why they have introduced all these race laws. It’s just an attempt to create a more equal society.
"That’s the problem the ANC government has been unable to fix" For the very simple reason, you cannot provide jobs to a population that just continues to grow without proper planning. Who is going to supply all the jobs while the world economy is stagnating??
@@nedor64 It’s not true that the population is continuing to grow without proper planning. The birth rate has been declining steadily and is now sitting at 2.3 which is fine. Unfortunately we’re dealing with the problems of the past, in more ways than one. The ANC government started out with high hopes, but looting and corruption has finished us off. The tax base is too small and steadily shrinking. We’re hitting almost 28 million grant recipients. That’s nearly half the population. I don’t pretend to have all the answers. Frankly, it’s overwhelming.
@@bevturner2258 "The birth rate has been declining steadily and is now sitting at 2.3 which is fine" No its not fine, where do you think all this new-borns will get a job in future? "Unfortunately we’re dealing with the problems of the past, in more ways than one" The problem is not what happened in the past the problem is what is happening now in this country. First of all, we do not have enough water, electricity, schools, hospitals, etc. to provide for everyone, but apart from that, it is not our duty to provide everything for everyone. "We’re hitting almost 28 million grant recipients" And then you say a 2.3% growth is fine! really! that is without those millions walking over our borders on a yearly basis? So what is your solution because people black and white are getting fed-up and it is becoming more serious every day??
Wow! The lies we tell to maintain a particular narrative🤔 Go and live in Nigeria for 2 months, travel the length and breadth of it. Then go to Gabon and do same. Let's see if you still think SA is the most unequal society in the world.
I really don't see how one can say Apartheid was well intended. That's like saying Hitler's programme was well intended because he said it'll be better for Jews and Germans to live apart. Point being, the rhetoric of 'separate development' does not matter - what were the actual policies? The only conclusion can be they knew exactly what they were doing but knew they couldn't come out and say it. Hence the rhetorical justifications.
"I really don't see how one can say Apartheid was well intended" The purpose of apartheid was to uplift a people to secure a future for them. "That's like saying Hitler's programme was well intended because he said it'll be better for Jews and Germans to live apart" Let's suppose the Jews and the Germans lived separately then that tragedy would never have happened or not?
@@nedor64 Uplift the people of which colour on the expense of slavery to which colour? ... the arrogance of the beneficiaries of apartheid to think that our Government will never survive without them is so super disappointing. These Gentlemen on this conversation has No idea of what they talking about. Why is the landlord expropriation issue so sensitive to white people? It's very useless to think that White people are the only people that matters in South Africa! This video just show's what you think of Black lives and in preference you would love to have Apartheid return in South Africa
@@thandolwethudywili4784 Let me teach you some history, current affairs and the future of this country, so fasten your seatbelt because I am straight forward I say what I want to. You ask ; "Uplift the people of which colour" well obviously white people because the Zulu won't uplift the Greek people or the Irish won't uplift the Portuguese. You are responsible for your own people and future nobody else. White Afrikaans people went through many problems like wars, droughts, poverty they never ask anybody to help them they uplift themselves. What is wrong with you? "the arrogance of the beneficiaries of apartheid to think that our Government will never survive without them is so super disappointing" This government know very well they cannot do anything without white people that is why there is a so-called GNU now and you can be very glad it happened. "It's very useless to think that White people are the only people that matters in South Africa!" Mainly BLACK people standing around in parking lots showing me where to park, how to get my car out of a parking, sitting next to the road looking for a job and we never told them to do that. White people have never said they are the only people who are important in SA, but we want recognition for what we have done for the country over 371 years because it is only fair. "This video just show's what you think of Black lives and in preference you would love to have Apartheid return in South Africa" What do you think the ANC/EFF/Mk think of white people, they cannot stop talking about apartheid and how cruel whites is ne'. What happened to Zimbabwe/Rhodesia why are there so many Zimbabweans in South Africa, can't they look after themselves I mean they have a country with minerals, wildlife, everything but they come to South Africa to buy from whites. What is happening in South Africa all the state dept's are bankrupt where is the money, who stole it? Crime, corruption, fraud, poverty, everything is out of control WHY, is it because you spend to much of your valuable time telling whites how bad they are while they give jobs to thousands of your people??? At the moment we have the white Solidarity Movement, a white University (Akademia) a white Technical college (Sol Tech) new private schools what have you got NOTHING because you spend all your time dreaming about us whites as if we are the most important people in this country. Maybe we are cheers! dream on.
Oh dear, I was put off by the spinning ball, front and center! We do not live on a ball, way to go on your contribution to the biggest lie of the last century. So sad.
This guy speaks with NO EMOTION whatsoever just rambling on and this on such an important subject. Very disappointed Ernst, you want to tell me you couldn't find a better knowledgeable speaker with more empathy regarding this sensitive subject????
This is not good PR for settlers... Africa is rising from the deepest sleep and this kind of arrogance and insults is going to cause damage to the settlers community...we can rebuild this country together instead of this disrespect that I'm hearing from this clown who's hosting the podcast
"Africa is rising from the deepest sleep and this kind of arrogance and insults is going to cause damage to the settlers community..." I tend to disagree if you look ate how many Zimbo's crossing our borders illegally every day. The "settlers" are busy developing towns, Universities, Colleges, schools, etc what are you developing?
@@nedor64 Those so called Zimbos are africans like myself...i come from the sotho tribe and they are also found in Zim.. so I'm partly Zimbo..self hate is not a disease I'm suffering from...i don't hate any other race but I dislike arrogance and undermining of people solely because they are different...the revolution won't be televised trust me on that
@@nedor64 Those so called Zimbos are africans like myself...i come from the sotho tribe and they are also found in Zim.. so I'm partly Zimbo..self hate is not a disease I'm suffering from...i don't hate any other race but I dislike arrogance and undermining of people solely because they are different...the revolution won't be televised trust me on that
@@Samuel-f2y "i don't hate any other race but I dislike arrogance and undermining of people solely because they are different...the revolution won't be televised trust me on that" Me too I don't hate others BUT don't undermine my right to decide upon my own future as I don't want to do it to you. "the revolution won't be televised trust me on that" No problem with that you should remember "revolutions" are violent and after that violence you still might not have achieved your end goal.
@@nedor64 The colonial state killed , raped, tortured, stole minerals that belonged to the natives... after that they don't atleast return stolen properties.. instead we have to work for the kids of colonial masters just to get by.. that is definitely unsustainable... so the revolution will bring balance...we only need dignity and equality..is that too much to ask...we all need honest resolutions.. so we can live together in peace
Ask many black men on the streets, outside of those forced off ancestral lands,most highly likely don't give a you know what about injustices of the past, what's done is done, we concern ourselves with current issue's, you're conflating a simple issue, poverty has a face, and it's black, wealth also has a face, it's white, you are 100% aware that South Africa has the highest gini coefficient on earth, all BEE(amongst other laws) is trying to do, is address this level of inequality, clearly wealthy white South Africans have no interest in sharing their wealth voluntarily, this is black South Africa's only mechanism. There is nothing on where a white lives or where he should sit on a bench, walk etc, these are predominantly Economic Laws,you guys know very well, outside of state contracts and licenses to mine/spectrum etc whites can trade freely outside complying, no one will arrest you for being a 100% white owned wholesaler/retailer/manufacturer etc, it's allowed legally. On the most part, i enjoyed Martin's views👍🏾great episode gents🔥
At what do you have to ask yourself is it down to genetics? Kenyans are the best marathon runners because of genetics. 99% of all inventions are made or harvested by Europeans.
I see that you are slow, I can tell you whites are not going to ask you for our land! Only a minority of the Afrikaans community is Dutch and arrived in Cape Town many came for Ptolomaic Egypt and Europes Jewish/Christian persecutions. We are not going to beg the black man for justice or land! Blacks biggest mistake was democracy we will not be forgetting the very communism that you know we despise! Never mind the reverse apartheid race laws it’s the communism that you continue to fight for that we ensure that the large majority is done with you
O and your rich government mps, will they share their wealth? I will absolutely not share my wealth with people who just want and want but dont want to work hard and take responsibility for their actions. My wealth will only be used for innocent children and sick children. Nothing for grown lazy people.
Unfortunately, you do not take into consideration all the facts. Whites in SA population declined by more than half from about 10 million to 4 million. The black population increased to 47 million. The number of blacks working in government and corporations with decent incomes are more than the entire white population. Most of the whites had to start their own business to make a living, and many take large life policies to leave for their children. There are many poor whites, not as many as blacks because whites are less than 7% of the population. It's insane to have a racial economic law against a race with such a small footprint. No, it's not just insane it's unconstitutional.
The richest man in south Africa is black BBBBEEEE has only benefited the black elite. It has done nothing for the people it has been designed to help. Yes there are some wealthy white people who have been wealthy for generations but now the normal man in the street is equally poor - black or white. Indian people are wealthy for the simple reason they stick together and help each other out. The same cannot be said for any other race , they are all equally poor. You now find white squatter camps too. Albeit not on the same scale because not too many children are born to these people. South Africa for good intent has become the most rascist country in the world. America is has the same affirmative action laws and follows closely behind. You just have to look at their response to Hurricane Helene. Nothing, why? Because mostly whites were effected. Hurricane Katrina different story because it was the South mostly black communities. The whole world is race befok and maybe in 1000 years when AI has taken over will people all be United in there humanity and forget about what colour you are. Like MLK said just people by the content of their character not by the colour of their skin. 😢😢
@@warrengrant Start more to take on projects that people can see what you are trying to tell them like for example Orania. People can see it's working, that's how you'll get people to support your plan, but here it's just talk and talk and people are sick of it, it means nothing to the common man on the street.
The problem is you do not understand your identity. You mistakenly believe that your identity is connected to your skin colour and your language and your culture. Who is the "we" you refer to?
Nice blksplaining. You tell me what I know about myself and then ask me what I am. I don’t pretend to understand you people, but I do know you’re too different from me and my people to ever be anything but an adversary. Your hostile reply is proof enough.
@@MuzorewaRatshikuni "You mistakenly believe that your identity is connected to your skin colour and your language and your culture" My identity is definitely connected to my skin colour, language and my culture you cannot separate it.
@@TickleMeChelmno If you believe a lies about your identity (i.e that it is connected to your skin colour, your language and your culture), you will not understand others as well. The group or community which has propagandised you to connect your identity to your skin colour, your language and your culture has you under their control. Who are you? Are you your skin colour? Are you your language? Are you your culture? You need to be set free my friend, from the lies of those who have control over you by lying to you about who you are, lying to you about your identity. But anyway, nothing can be done for a person who insists on believing lies about themselves!
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Ernst, main stream media are brainwashing people with a marxist skewed referring to the South Africal political past as "during Apartheid" and the political present as "during Democracy". It is time for you and the Solidarity Movement to change this lying narrative please.
A communitarian and an individualist sitting down and having a normal exchange of thinking. How refreshing!
Finally!! A rational, educated, forensic mind with the accompanying language to express what needs to be said. 😊 Please get out there and speak to our youth. They need to hear this.
Thank you Lord.
Thank you Ernst.
The only way to end it is effecting the money. Simply put, if I’m not welcome in the economy then neither is my tax money.
This is only the way
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I agree as a black guy , I believe everybody with skill and ambition must be encourage to start business to create many jobs
@@Enoch940 hell yes. Being a victim is in the mind of the beholder. Well done Sir
These race laws are designed to impoverish your sons while keeping your daughters in circulation for m'sedge-ination.
Wake up
Thankyou for a HONEST CONVERSATION
If we still not all equal under common law then give us a homeland so i can live by rules made by my culture and not african raciest laws
Agree 💯, this is why Zuma deluxe says that the Dutch Roman law system must be scrapped as 🖤🖤🖤 people cannot understand them or life by them as thy have tribal council law's 😂😂
Orania is looking for residents.
Otherwise there’s Kleinfontein, another Afrikaner settlement near Pretoria.
You could just get together and create another Orania.
@@bevturner2258Exactly, those who want an independant homeland, it is not going to happen until the majority votes for a government that will allow it. And the chances of that is remote if not nil. But self sufficiency (as per Orania) or moving to WC is the short term solution and keeping them successfull and keeping all inhabitants happy long term is the next project. Federalism (as understood in the west) is also not going to be allowed to happen in the political sphere. Again not until the improbable / impossible happens where the majority votes for it or a government allowing it.
@@JJfromJ
Yes, you’ve gone through the various options.
I grew up in KZN, but now live in the WC 😊
Ernst you make us proud! JY MAAK ONS TROTS
But your problem is that the white people are the minority in country, 😢😢😢😢😢😢, you sit with majority of population who since few years only get a 30 % pass rate grade 12 certificate as want to become lawyers chartered accountants bank officials 💊💊💊 pilots for SAA 😂😂😂😂, it cannot change
top notch convo. 👏
The ANC promised to destroy Apartheid and transform South Africa. The ANC transformed Apartheid and destroyed South Africa.
EXACTLY !!
Ethical. Thank you for your excellent work.
Ernst always enjoy your info
Martin van Staden remains a spectacular political analyst in the same vein as RW Johnson and that ilk of intellectual, social and philosophical giants this country has had benefit of the voices of.
Hopefully musk and others remember this apartheid law of a n c before investing
Elon Musk 🤣😂🤣 is like Mark Shuttleworth who are not interested in South Africa unless they can make money 🤑💰 on their terms,if Starlink ever is allowed in South Africa then you know he did a under the carpet deal 🤝 with ANC cadres or Rama himself seeing they met in New York recently, never trust a ANC cadres or a white South African who left the country and became rich overseas 😂😂😂😂
Lol musk is not racist like you.
Starlink will go around the World and will be free.ANC were a total failure.Theyve destroyed all that was beautiful and good and functioned.And having only 30% of those who actually voted is not a success but shows no confidence Yet ANC are still acting as if they have total power and control
Race-Equity laws should also include what each race will be required to CONTRIBUTE ! I’m sick of Economic FREELOADERS ☝🏻😲
IT is important to NOT underplay the impacts of BEE or in in fact voluntary on compliance to BEE as it not only impacts access to STATE TENDERS but many, many private businesses, corporates and enterprises themselves will voluntarily EXCLUDE your non compliant business from supply and services or any dealings whatsoever.
In reality white owned companies get the bulk of state tenders and contracts while black owned companies get less than 1% of contracts in the private sector. You cry baby
Morgan Freeman was asked how do you get rid of racism..he said stop talking about it
Stop talking about racism, the truth wont make it go away.
@@TshepangMoletsane-l7g ha ha ha the truth ha ha ha
Take them to the ICJ
Please read Cuan Elgin's book called Bulala (aba tagati) it's a great read about our history ...how we came to be ..
The sequel is Return to the Covenant by Cuan Elgin.
I am not that well-articulated and just say it as it is. OIL and WATER do not mix and only once someone can develop a formula to get past this issue, we will always have racism problems in this country but is also evident still in many parts of the world especially the USA. But the formula is actually very simple. Known as RESPECT - Respect for other cultures, the law, and each other.
Makes me think of Thomas Sowell youtube videos & books ( Affirmative Action Around the World: An Empirical Study and Preferential policies ). Its a wrong response to Apartheid not respecting property rights abuse & racial preferences by dong the same.
Dit kom ook neer op die erge aanwas. Die oormag oor die minderheid. Dis hoekom hulle nooit by n punt kan uitkom van Selftevredenheid nie!
Praktiese stappe vir die algemene man op straat om te volg om dit teen te staan op groot skaal sal help. Almal weet dit vir die afgelope 30 jaar. Hoop julle jonger generasie sal beter leiding gee aan gemeenskappe om dit om te keer. Ek glo baie sit en wag vir leiding ... aanlyn. Dankie
Ons sal maar onder mekaar moet begin koop en verkoop en dienste lewer. M.a.w ons kan mekaar ondersteun i.p.v op staat kontrakte en ander groepe steun. Dit is wat die Moslems en Jode doen. Orania wys ons kan, maar sonder om ons af te sonder soos hulle.
Dankie! PRAKTIESE stappe is die oplossing, oneindige You Tube videos waarin vertel word wat ons lankal weet selfs nog voor baie politici gaan ons nerens bring nie maar dit lyk vir my dis nou die nuwe norm.
But just remember the younger generation only need a 30 % pass rate since recently, these same 🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤 people want to become lawyers doctor 💊 chartered accountants with such a certificate , 😢😢😢 history in South Africa had taught us never to trust 🖤🖤🖤🖤
Look what happened to Sarel Cilliers and Dingaan in 1800 causing the battle of Blood River, this is the biggest problem with South Africa
@@eisbeinGermany Way to fken stupd for their own good...these XENOPHOBIC 30% brigades....monkey see monkey do.
@@eisbeinGermany Ongelukkig word selfs ons jonger generasie deur die 30% geraak en die hartseer is baie maak nie matriek nie. Daar is n behoefte aan volwasse onderrig en dit gaan lank vat as n mens alles net in afrikaans wil doen. Daar moet voorsiening gemaak word vir afrikaans en engels. Aanlyn is n manier om ook meer te bereik en is nie net n "woke" intervensie nie. Daar is baie kwalifikasies rakende BEE wetgewing, minder word bereik deur hoe dit om te swaai in die werkplek op n wetlike manier. Probeer meer mense te bereik, aanlyn. Ongelukkig kan baie nie ledegeld betaal nie. Maar baie kan hul kantoor beskikbaar stel vir klein groepe jongmense aanlyn. Sal seker tyd neem om die kopskuif te maak, maar na 30 jaar kan dit seker gedoen word.
A hand out is not a good intention. Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day teach him to fish and he will thrive and live to feed himself and family. Dont ctiple the people of SA grow them to be awesome.
BEE in SA has got nothing to do with rectifying the past. It's simply tribalism.
The ANC government is punishing the Whites for apartheid era job reservation.
Yes, it is tribalism.
Nothing has really changed, except the colour of the favoured tribe.
BEEE is stealing, because the person want something he is nòt going to pay or work for. Finish en klaar.
Great discussion, it certainly applies to many western culture countries. It also applies to illegal immigration, which is impacting many countries economies, as well as increasing crime and poverty in those countries. It is puzzling why the government’s are letting million’s of criminals, and uneducated people into their countries, unless it is to increase the number of ‘rent seeking’ programs for votes and control of the population. Identity politics is expanding in the U.S., which means it is a very successful operation. Affirmative action works!
(for the Marxist government) Thanks again for the interesting and informative interview’s.
One of the negatives of BEE is that companies have outsourced software development to what they see as more component companies because building software teams means you have to choose the best team or the projects just get to expensive... basically companies have in essence stopped building for the long term.. its a major concern..
Precisely. It's hard but rewarding to build a proper software development team, and very expensive to outsource to an inefficient 100% BEE compliant entity. Speaking from experience..
Hi Ernst: fantastiese channel: in vandag se tye is 50min vir TH-cam mense baie lank, probeer om die uitsendings te edit tot maks 10min.
Can I get a t-shirt illustration of the race law project
"Good intentions " as a legal defense . .. is very bad or am I really stupid..... ?
Why no waah waah over ex Govt speaker Baleka Mbete and her Mining bbbeee mining Rmillions....???
Who was supposed to benefit...???
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I am all for personal freedom from any perspective but surely to be educated about all perspectives, one must get different perspectives in addition to this echo chamber
BEE must be abolished in its entirety or development will remain stagnant.
Why has south africa not been taken to the International Court of Justice?? DA has been *VERY COMPLICIT* on the BEE policy, that has been very benificial for white owned corporates and industry (there are many reasons) that have taken full advantage of the corrupt government and their cabal, have stiffled or prevented competition, and have maintained *BIG BUSINESS MONOPOLIES* ,
Race laws were introduced by the British first.
Yes, that’s true. However, the enforcement of these laws was not brutal and violent.
Ek mis baie ou jare gelede vir PW Botha. Hy was n goeie president en hy was streng maar hy was reg. Ek hou niks van FW de Klerk. Ek is trots op julle.
Well, instead of using BEE or BBBEE , use your own apartheid words.
Try job reservation. Much the same thing, it’s about exclusion based on race.
Only difference is the preferred colour is now reversed.
This a typical case of lawfare where laws are reinterpreted for political expediency for being convenient and subterfuge despite for being improper or immoral as retribution to the previous dispensation and increasing ill-gotten gains with perpetuation of Ineptocracy due to kakistocracy and this is clear with the current governANCe in South Africa!
Ineptocracy - “A system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers”.
Kakistocracy - a government in which the worst people are in charge
They are like kids in school , don't stop living in the past and if you give them a ice-cream they cry for a chocolate !!!
Whose crying now?? 😂😂😂
@@ThembaNyikanyika The European kids because their ice-creams got stolen.
"Race" ...Race is what it must ask itself, what colour toilet paper is.🧐.. After having to wipe up all the crap in the Whole Wide World...😮😅😊
Ons kan praat tot in ons m SA is op man
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Ek stem 100% saam met Rian ons praat en praat oor goed wat ons al gatvol voor is maar die You Tube ding is mos lekker dit gee ons relevansie terwyl die mense vrek van ellende in plakkerskampe. Al wat van belang is is politieke partye se onderlinge gevegte en mislukkings asof hulle ons leiers is wat ons iewers gaan bring en niemand kom dit agter nie.
Martin's accent sounds very scandinavian.
Holland Dutch
I think he's 100% Afrikaans who has spent too much time in the USA.
Sounds like he’s from the Netherlands.
Dutch accent
Who cares.
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Actually country of origin and where you grew up can influence your thinking. So it’s interesting 😊
Zombie SA okays
Vraag groot asb?
So. Sars gee ons geld vir ( Treasury') en dan word die geld uit gegee en in meeste gevale gesteel. So
Hoekom stop SARS nie vir Treasury' en vra vrae en so dink ek dat dir geld wat gemors word links en regs terug gegee word aan die taxpayer's
BEE keep the intelligence out of tendering to allow corruptions
It’s not about how many race laws there were before 1994 compared to after 1994.
It’s about how those laws were enforced.
Have you ever been forcibly removed from your home because you're living in the wrong area?
Maybe you've forgotten that homes were bulldozed to the ground because the area was being cleared for Whites.
Ever been arrested and thrown in a police van because you didn't have your dompas with you?
I could go on, but there's no point.
It's in the past.
But please be honest enough to acknowledge what happened during apartheid.
"But please be honest enough to acknowledge what happened during apartheid." Not only during apartheid also before apartheid, acknowledge the brutal attacks on the Voortrekkers at Blood River, Blaauw Krans, Moord Drif, Weenen, and many more other places where whites were brutally attacked and whole families wiped out.
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South Africa has a bloody history indeed.
I’m not minimising what happened to Afrikaners at all. My great granny was Afrikaans and suffered at the hands of the British in a concentration camp during the Anglo Boer War. Her stories were horrifying. The fact is that every group has suffered loss. Fighting over land is never civilised. War is devastating.
😢😊😇🤧sad...beeeee
You gloss over the problem of poverty in SA by saying it can be fixed.
It is however, a fact of life here.
75% of South African workers earn less than R6,000 per month.
We have one of the most unequal societies in the world.
That’s the problem the ANC government has been unable to fix.
That’s why they have introduced all these race laws.
It’s just an attempt to create a more equal society.
"That’s the problem the ANC government has been unable to fix" For the very simple reason, you cannot provide jobs to a population that just continues to grow without proper planning. Who is going to supply all the jobs while the world economy is stagnating??
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It’s not true that the population is continuing to grow without proper planning. The birth rate has been declining steadily and is now sitting at 2.3 which is fine. Unfortunately we’re dealing with the problems of the past, in more ways than one.
The ANC government started out with high hopes, but looting and corruption has finished us off. The tax base is too small and steadily shrinking. We’re hitting almost 28 million grant recipients. That’s nearly half the population.
I don’t pretend to have all the answers. Frankly, it’s overwhelming.
@@bevturner2258 "The birth rate has been declining steadily and is now sitting at 2.3 which is fine" No its not fine, where do you think all this new-borns will get a job in future? "Unfortunately we’re dealing with the problems of the past, in more ways than one" The problem is not what happened in the past the problem is what is happening now in this country. First of all, we do not have enough water, electricity, schools, hospitals, etc. to provide for everyone, but apart from that, it is not our duty to provide everything for everyone.
"We’re hitting almost 28 million grant recipients" And then you say a 2.3% growth is fine! really! that is without those millions walking over our borders on a yearly basis? So what is your solution because people black and white are getting fed-up and it is becoming more serious every day??
Wow! The lies we tell to maintain a particular narrative🤔
Go and live in Nigeria for 2 months, travel the length and breadth of it.
Then go to Gabon and do same.
Let's see if you still think SA is the most unequal society in the world.
I really don't see how one can say Apartheid was well intended. That's like saying Hitler's programme was well intended because he said it'll be better for Jews and Germans to live apart.
Point being, the rhetoric of 'separate development' does not matter - what were the actual policies?
The only conclusion can be they knew exactly what they were doing but knew they couldn't come out and say it. Hence the rhetorical justifications.
"I really don't see how one can say Apartheid was well intended" The purpose of apartheid was to uplift a people to secure a future for them. "That's like saying Hitler's programme was well intended because he said it'll be better for Jews and Germans to live apart" Let's suppose the Jews and the Germans lived separately then that tragedy would never have happened or not?
Apartheid gave homelands to all ethnicities until your rainbow savior demolished all of it
Godwin’s law on cue.
You guys all had homelands until Mandela came along,
@@nedor64 Uplift the people of which colour on the expense of slavery to which colour? ... the arrogance of the beneficiaries of apartheid to think that our Government will never survive without them is so super disappointing. These Gentlemen on this conversation has No idea of what they talking about. Why is the landlord expropriation issue so sensitive to white people? It's very useless to think that White people are the only people that matters in South Africa! This video just show's what you think of Black lives and in preference you would love to have Apartheid return in South Africa
@@thandolwethudywili4784 Let me teach you some history, current affairs and the future of this country, so fasten your seatbelt because I am straight forward I say what I want to. You ask ; "Uplift the people of which colour" well obviously white people because the Zulu won't uplift the Greek people or the Irish won't uplift the Portuguese. You are responsible for your own people and future nobody else. White Afrikaans people went through many problems like wars, droughts, poverty they never ask anybody to help them they uplift themselves. What is wrong with you?
"the arrogance of the beneficiaries of apartheid to think that our Government will never survive without them is so super disappointing" This government know very well they cannot do anything without white people that is why there is a so-called GNU now and you can be very glad it happened. "It's very useless to think that White people are the only people that matters in South Africa!" Mainly BLACK people standing around in parking lots showing me where to park, how to get my car out of a parking, sitting next to the road looking for a job and we never told them to do that. White people have never said they are the only people who are important in SA, but we want recognition for what we have done for the country over 371 years because it is only fair.
"This video just show's what you think of Black lives and in preference you would love to have Apartheid return in South Africa" What do you think the ANC/EFF/Mk think of white people, they cannot stop talking about apartheid and how cruel whites is ne'. What happened to Zimbabwe/Rhodesia why are there so many Zimbabweans in South Africa, can't they look after themselves I mean they have a country with minerals, wildlife, everything but they come to South Africa to buy from whites. What is happening in South Africa all the state dept's are bankrupt where is the money, who stole it? Crime, corruption, fraud, poverty, everything is out of control WHY, is it because you spend to much of your valuable time telling whites how bad they are while they give jobs to thousands of your people???
At the moment we have the white Solidarity Movement, a white University (Akademia) a white Technical college (Sol Tech) new private schools what have you got NOTHING because you spend all your time dreaming about us whites as if we are the most important people in this country. Maybe we are cheers! dream on.
Oh dear, I was put off by the spinning ball, front and center! We do not live on a ball, way to go on your contribution to the biggest lie of the last century. So sad.
This guy speaks with NO EMOTION whatsoever just rambling on and this on such an important subject.
Very disappointed Ernst, you want to tell me you couldn't find a better knowledgeable speaker with more empathy regarding this sensitive subject????
I'll be sure to cry next time to establish my credibility.
Ina.... he IS AN EXPERT on the subject matter. That's ALL that counts.
Facts vs Feelings 😂
This is not good PR for settlers... Africa is rising from the deepest sleep and this kind of arrogance and insults is going to cause damage to the settlers community...we can rebuild this country together instead of this disrespect that I'm hearing from this clown who's hosting the podcast
"Africa is rising from the deepest sleep and this kind of arrogance and insults is going to cause damage to the settlers community..." I tend to disagree if you look ate how many Zimbo's crossing our borders illegally every day. The "settlers" are busy developing towns, Universities, Colleges, schools, etc what are you developing?
@@nedor64 Those so called Zimbos are africans like myself...i come from the sotho tribe and they are also found in Zim.. so I'm partly Zimbo..self hate is not a disease I'm suffering from...i don't hate any other race but I dislike arrogance and undermining of people solely because they are different...the revolution won't be televised trust me on that
@@nedor64 Those so called Zimbos are africans like myself...i come from the sotho tribe and they are also found in Zim.. so I'm partly Zimbo..self hate is not a disease I'm suffering from...i don't hate any other race but I dislike arrogance and undermining of people solely because they are different...the revolution won't be televised trust me on that
@@Samuel-f2y "i don't hate any other race but I dislike arrogance and undermining of people solely because they are different...the revolution won't be televised trust me on that" Me too I don't hate others BUT don't undermine my right to decide upon my own future as I don't want to do it to you. "the revolution won't be televised trust me on that" No problem with that you should remember "revolutions" are violent and after that violence you still might not have achieved your end goal.
@@nedor64 The colonial state killed , raped, tortured, stole minerals that belonged to the natives... after that they don't atleast return stolen properties.. instead we have to work for the kids of colonial masters just to get by.. that is definitely unsustainable... so the revolution will bring balance...we only need dignity and equality..is that too much to ask...we all need honest resolutions.. so we can live together in peace
Ask many black men on the streets, outside of those forced off ancestral lands,most highly likely don't give a you know what about injustices of the past, what's done is done, we concern ourselves with current issue's, you're conflating a simple issue, poverty has a face, and it's black, wealth also has a face, it's white, you are 100% aware that South Africa has the highest gini coefficient on earth, all BEE(amongst other laws) is trying to do, is address this level of inequality, clearly wealthy white South Africans have no interest in sharing their wealth voluntarily, this is black South Africa's only mechanism.
There is nothing on where a white lives or where he should sit on a bench, walk etc, these are predominantly Economic Laws,you guys know very well, outside of state contracts and licenses to mine/spectrum etc whites can trade freely outside complying, no one will arrest you for being a 100% white owned wholesaler/retailer/manufacturer etc, it's allowed legally.
On the most part, i enjoyed Martin's views👍🏾great episode gents🔥
At what do you have to ask yourself is it down to genetics? Kenyans are the best marathon runners because of genetics. 99% of all inventions are made or harvested by Europeans.
I see that you are slow, I can tell you whites are not going to ask you for our land! Only a minority of the Afrikaans community is Dutch and arrived in Cape Town many came for Ptolomaic Egypt and Europes Jewish/Christian persecutions. We are not going to beg the black man for justice or land! Blacks biggest mistake was democracy we will not be forgetting the very communism that you know we despise! Never mind the reverse apartheid race laws it’s the communism that you continue to fight for that we ensure that the large majority is done with you
O and your rich government mps, will they share their wealth? I will absolutely not share my wealth with people who just want and want but dont want to work hard and take responsibility for their actions. My wealth will only be used for innocent children and sick children. Nothing for grown lazy people.
Unfortunately, you do not take into consideration all the facts.
Whites in SA population declined by more than half from about 10 million to 4 million. The black population increased to 47 million.
The number of blacks working in government and corporations with decent incomes are more than the entire white population. Most of the whites had to start their own business to make a living, and many take large life policies to leave for their children. There are many poor whites, not as many as blacks because whites are less than 7% of the population. It's insane to have a racial economic law against a race with such a small footprint.
No, it's not just insane it's unconstitutional.
The richest man in south Africa is black
BBBBEEEE has only benefited the black elite. It has done nothing for the people it has been designed to help.
Yes there are some wealthy white people who have been wealthy for generations but now the normal man in the street is equally poor - black or white.
Indian people are wealthy for the simple reason they stick together and help each other out.
The same cannot be said for any other race , they are all equally poor.
You now find white squatter camps too. Albeit not on the same scale because not too many children are born to these people.
South Africa for good intent has become the most rascist country in the world. America is has the same affirmative action laws and follows closely behind.
You just have to look at their response to Hurricane Helene.
Nothing, why? Because mostly whites were effected.
Hurricane Katrina different story because it was the South mostly black communities.
The whole world is race befok and maybe in 1000 years when AI has taken over will people all be United in there humanity and forget about what colour you are.
Like MLK said just people by the content of their character not by the colour of their skin.
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A whole lot of intellectual crap!
What do you think would be a better approach to addressing the challenges South Africa is facing today?
@@warrengrant Start more to take on projects that people can see what you are trying to tell them like for example Orania. People can see it's working, that's how you'll get people to support your plan, but here it's just talk and talk and people are sick of it, it means nothing to the common man on the street.
Perhaps do difficult for you to understand?
Julle utopia(s) het al bestaan…1960’s apartheid Suid Afrika, goddank dit sal nooit weer nie🙏
Nothing about it is acceptable. Racism is a violatpon of dignity and God given human rights. But then the ANC do kot acknowledge God
Do we first have ti be arrested falsely before the constitutionality of these false laws
We’re just too different from them.
The problem is you do not understand your identity. You mistakenly believe that your identity is connected to your skin colour and your language and your culture.
Who is the "we" you refer to?
Nice blksplaining. You tell me what I know about myself and then ask me what I am.
I don’t pretend to understand you people, but I do know you’re too different from me and my people to ever be anything but an adversary. Your hostile reply is proof enough.
This is exactly what I’m talking about.
@@MuzorewaRatshikuni "You mistakenly believe that your identity is connected to your skin colour and your language and your culture" My identity is definitely connected to my skin colour, language and my culture you cannot separate it.
@@TickleMeChelmno
If you believe a lies about your identity (i.e that it is connected to your skin colour, your language and your culture), you will not understand others as well.
The group or community which has propagandised you to connect your identity to your skin colour, your language and your culture has you under their control.
Who are you?
Are you your skin colour?
Are you your language?
Are you your culture?
You need to be set free my friend, from the lies of those who have control over you by lying to you about who you are, lying to you about your identity.
But anyway, nothing can be done for a person who insists on believing lies about themselves!