Thank you for this! Im new to rwd (GR86) and I had my first oversteer spinout at Summit Point Main (40F, wet) coming out of T9 and gave too much throttle mid turn and was not prepared how to correct it. As I started to skid, I took my foot off the gas (mistake 1), then tried to countersteer to get the car straight, but since I let off the gas, all the weight transferred to the front while trying to countersteer and not having prior practice was a scary, but good learning experience. After watching this, it makes alot more sense and I will make sure to apply in the future and keep practicing
This just happen to me at Barber,, I was going into turn 1.. My car came around , I some what lifed but never hit the brakes. Car came back around and I was fine.. Lucky i guess..just stay focus..Great vid
Does it ever pay off on a long sweeper to throttle steer (off and on) to keep the speed up and the car doing just a bit of over-steer? This seems to speed up a long turn, but does it mean I am just not going fast enough to begin with? The car I speak of has an oversteer bias, but is mostly balanced. (lightweight 300Z)
+Julia Young Don't you wish there was a rule that said, "Always do this" when it comes to driving?!! Or maybe not - that would take the fun out of it. My point being that what you're suggesting might be the best way in your car in many corners, but not always. For sure, what you're suggesting can work and be effective. And really what you're talking about is managing the weight transfer to get the car to do what you want, which is great. But to your question about whether this means you're not going fast enough, unfortunately I can't tell you without knowing more. Being able to modulate the throttle to change the balance and make the car oversteer (or understeer) does not necessarily mean you're going too slow. But it could. Try going faster to find out!
Oversteer is scary in high grip (summer tires, hot asphalt) scenarios. If you are inexperienced driver (like myself), and you try to push the car hard into a long tight street corner, the back might step out so fast that you won't be able to control the car at all..
@@Speedsecrets1 When going karting i experience sometimes experience oversteer, where in the corner, the tyres lose traction just for a sec, but it brings the engine revs right down and kills my exit speed. What can I do then? All I can think of is lower entry speed and like you said, maybe apply throttle through the corner a bit.
At the middle of the turn you want to engage the throttle just enough that the lean of the car's weight is balanced thru the side center. ...not too much weight in the front or the back. As you're coming out of the turn, progressively increase throttle keeping the car's centrifical weight balanced. Progress into slingshot acceleration letting the feel of the car dictate
So define the difference between a fishtail and oversteer. Where what you do to correct it is opposite advice. Fishtail let off the gas, oversteer step on the gas and steer into the slide. At what point is it not a fishtail but rather an oversteer and vice versa.
So many praising comments, but the whole scenario is vague, you said you want to go right, so why steer left first, which is supposed the mistake that got you in oversteer, unless you are intentionally trying to drift, which i doubt because you are explaining for amateurs.
@@Speedsecrets1 1:15, any way sir, I would recommend adding some graphics in such topic, maybe am as prof driver completely understand what you are saying, but I follow the scenario in details, and another hint, probably better since most modern cars are all wheel drive, better to address the axle drive you are explaining, as front wheel, rear axle or all wheel drive, and if the driver is using traction control or not. Thank you
@@mycomment6699 Wow. A "professional" driver who knows more than this _extremely_ experienced racer and instructor, but doesn't recognise opposite lock when it's demonstrated. The action shown at 1:15 is the most basic technique taught by every single driving instructor - if the rear steps out while turning, turn the wheel the other way. That means correcting oversteer on a left-hand corner by turning the wheel..... TO THE RIGHT!!!!! Thats how you catch a slide. ***we are talking about a rear-wheel-drive car, before you start complaining about that***
Thank you for this! Im new to rwd (GR86) and I had my first oversteer spinout at Summit Point Main (40F, wet) coming out of T9 and gave too much throttle mid turn and was not prepared how to correct it. As I started to skid, I took my foot off the gas (mistake 1), then tried to countersteer to get the car straight, but since I let off the gas, all the weight transferred to the front while trying to countersteer and not having prior practice was a scary, but good learning experience. After watching this, it makes alot more sense and I will make sure to apply in the future and keep practicing
Great simple explanation, you explained oversteer in a few minutes what some take half n hour ,well done you!
Clear and concise , thanks .
This just happen to me at Barber,, I was going into turn 1..
My car came around ,
I some what lifed but never hit the brakes. Car came back around and I was fine..
Lucky i guess..just stay focus..Great vid
Really great to understand everything that is going on with the car and understand how to compensate.
Nice video! Not lifting off the accelerator feels a bit counterintuitive and can be kind of difficult to unlearn
Really made this topic make sense!
Beautifully explained. Thanks sir!
Does it ever pay off on a long sweeper to throttle steer (off and on) to keep the speed up and the car doing just a bit of over-steer? This seems to speed up a long turn, but does it mean I am just not going fast enough to begin with? The car I speak of has an oversteer bias, but is mostly balanced. (lightweight 300Z)
+Julia Young Don't you wish there was a rule that said, "Always do this" when it comes to driving?!! Or maybe not - that would take the fun out of it. My point being that what you're suggesting might be the best way in your car in many corners, but not always. For sure, what you're suggesting can work and be effective. And really what you're talking about is managing the weight transfer to get the car to do what you want, which is great. But to your question about whether this means you're not going fast enough, unfortunately I can't tell you without knowing more. Being able to modulate the throttle to change the balance and make the car oversteer (or understeer) does not necessarily mean you're going too slow. But it could. Try going faster to find out!
You should make more videos like this.
Nevermind. You already did! Thanks for all the content.
Oversteer is scary in high grip (summer tires, hot asphalt) scenarios. If you are inexperienced driver (like myself), and you try to push the car hard into a long tight street corner, the back might step out so fast that you won't be able to control the car at all..
That's why he said squeeze the throttle not push it
Is this why they say you have to accelerate mid corner?
It's certainly a big part of the reason. It's all about balancing the car, and maximizing acceleration out of the corners.
@@Speedsecrets1 When going karting i experience sometimes experience oversteer, where in the corner, the tyres lose traction just for a sec, but it brings the engine revs right down and kills my exit speed. What can I do then? All I can think of is lower entry speed and like you said, maybe apply throttle through the corner a bit.
At the middle of the turn you want to engage the throttle just enough that the lean of the car's weight is balanced thru the side center. ...not too much weight in the front or the back. As you're coming out of the turn, progressively increase throttle keeping the car's centrifical weight balanced. Progress into slingshot acceleration letting the feel of the car dictate
So define the difference between a fishtail and oversteer. Where what you do to correct it is opposite advice. Fishtail let off the gas, oversteer step on the gas and steer into the slide. At what point is it not a fishtail but rather an oversteer and vice versa.
So many praising comments, but the whole scenario is vague, you said you want to go right, so why steer left first, which is supposed the mistake that got you in oversteer, unless you are intentionally trying to drift, which i doubt because you are explaining for amateurs.
Where do I say I want to "go right"?
@@Speedsecrets1 1:15, any way sir, I would recommend adding some graphics in such topic, maybe am as prof driver completely understand what you are saying, but I follow the scenario in details, and another hint, probably better since most modern cars are all wheel drive, better to address the axle drive you are explaining, as front wheel, rear axle or all wheel drive, and if the driver is using traction control or not.
Thank you
@@mycomment6699 Wow. A "professional" driver who knows more than this _extremely_ experienced racer and instructor, but doesn't recognise opposite lock when it's demonstrated. The action shown at 1:15 is the most basic technique taught by every single driving instructor - if the rear steps out while turning, turn the wheel the other way. That means correcting oversteer on a left-hand corner by turning the wheel..... TO THE RIGHT!!!!! Thats how you catch a slide.
***we are talking about a rear-wheel-drive car, before you start complaining about that***