Riddle of the Osirans

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ม.ค. 2014
  • That old truth-teller/liar logic problem chestnut gets the Doctor Who treatment in Pyramids of Mars
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  • @mpittard21
    @mpittard21 6 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    This serial was my first ever Doctor Who one many years ago. It still remains one of my favorites to this day.

    • @koolmckool7039
      @koolmckool7039 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I remember watching it with my dad back when I was young. One of my favorites too.

    • @paulgriffith69
      @paulgriffith69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I was just after you. Masque of Mandragora.

  • @hugodrax71
    @hugodrax71 2 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    The best Doctor Who story of them all. Flawless.

    • @hothemeep1219
      @hothemeep1219 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Doubt

    • @Tedybear315
      @Tedybear315 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Within the top 10 at least. Several where on par with this one. Masterfully written as many of these early episodes where.

    • @martinwood744
      @martinwood744 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      But not "hand on cushion"-less.

    • @minicle426
      @minicle426 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Power of the Daleks?

  • @Rheinhard
    @Rheinhard 7 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    A classic logic puzzle...

  • @martinwood744
    @martinwood744 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    The guardian's indication was vague to the point of being useless. Lucky the Doctor had read the script.

    • @CNYTE
      @CNYTE ปีที่แล้ว +11

      From a certain angle it may seem vague but if you were looking from the perspective of the finger, it would be clearer.

    • @johngilmore697
      @johngilmore697 หลายเดือนก่อน

      As me or as a worm?

  • @georgeowain
    @georgeowain 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I’ve seen three versions of this trial in film and tv. This is the only one where the actual method to solving it plays out.

  • @coolmacatrain9434
    @coolmacatrain9434 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    That was such a bamboozle of a riddle ...when you were 9 years old! Haha!

    • @Dave-te5bs
      @Dave-te5bs หลายเดือนก่อน

      Which one would the other on choose.

    • @simmorg290
      @simmorg290 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Dave-te5bs What do you mean? Both would point to the same one.

  • @RogueWJL
    @RogueWJL 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    One of the greatest.
    Star Gate before Star Gate

  • @adambotsford9080
    @adambotsford9080 10 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    And it was honored by Jim Henson later on : Sarah's Certain Death Riddle

    • @heavymetal6662
      @heavymetal6662 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Labyrinth?

    • @ariaflame-au
      @ariaflame-au หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I am not sure how old a riddle it is.

    • @paulbeardsley4095
      @paulbeardsley4095 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ariaflame-auIt was around long before Doctor Who

  • @klandersen42
    @klandersen42 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    One of my favorite classic bits from one of my all-time favorite stories.

  • @mikebasil4832
    @mikebasil4832 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Thank you so much for posting this clip because it is one of the best Tom Baker scenes and one of my favourites. ✌🏻

  • @RikAlessi
    @RikAlessi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Pyramids of Mars ❤️

  • @bigbadbith8422
    @bigbadbith8422 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love the silver gaffa tape - those were the days….😊

  • @petermetcalfe6722
    @petermetcalfe6722 10 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Genius.

    • @manzilla48
      @manzilla48 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not really

  • @Warpedsmac
    @Warpedsmac 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I wish I had a video cassette recorder when this aired back in the day....I could have learned logic. Thanks for this post.

  • @jamesricker3997
    @jamesricker3997 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Such a simple riddle, The Asaryians had a sense of humor.
    If the defenses had deemed them a threat, they would have been instantly killed.

    • @AndrewTheZ
      @AndrewTheZ หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Osirins

  • @TheCNYMike
    @TheCNYMike หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Watching on an NTSC TV from across the room, especially if I'm watching the VHS copy I made of the PBS "movie," you would never see that the buttons were held on by duct tape. I never did until I rewatched it, on my laptop, which is two feet from my nose. But I still like the riddle. And guess who's back?

  • @RICO_SUAVE21
    @RICO_SUAVE21 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Best doctor who ever!!!!

  • @oscarsiri2763
    @oscarsiri2763 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Simple and true.

  • @jongilbertson2106
    @jongilbertson2106 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dr Who created an XOR gate.

  • @paulshorney3465
    @paulshorney3465 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Brilliant

  • @milleniumfalcon8654
    @milleniumfalcon8654 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Clever Dr🙌

  • @NLVDragon2054
    @NLVDragon2054 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    You see, that’s the REAL Doctor right there, using his impeccable and razor-sharp intellect to outwit an enemy and get he and Sarah Jane out of a jam!
    Tom Baker will always be my Dr. Who.
    I grew up watching this guy, and this guy only as the Doctor.
    Whatever the heck they’ve got going on with the latest Doctor is nothing but window dressing.
    Number 4 will always be the greatest Time Lord from Gallifrey!

  • @Comezehere
    @Comezehere หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Not smart writing. Not well done. Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant.

  • @standmccray1037
    @standmccray1037 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I had to be almost 50 to get the riddle

  • @sethsholtis5297
    @sethsholtis5297 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I've seen this episode before, but this scene wasn't in it. Why would they cut this scene? Who doesn't want to see the Doctor flex his mental muscles?

    • @jakeisthedoctor2308
      @jakeisthedoctor2308 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What are you talking about? It was in the episode

    • @sethsholtis5297
      @sethsholtis5297 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jakeisthedoctor2308 Well, it was part of that event they ran a few years ago, The Doctor's Finest. They may have edited it down for time. At least, that's my guess.

  • @theshadobase157
    @theshadobase157 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    i still got the vhs copy of this story!

  • @Workerbee-zy5nx
    @Workerbee-zy5nx หลายเดือนก่อน

    Effects were good back then..

  • @snakestaffmagic4499
    @snakestaffmagic4499 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Who's here after Ruby Sunday?

    • @paulwatson9486
      @paulwatson9486 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      EoD, but no relation. I'm just having fun.

  • @billbaggins1688
    @billbaggins1688 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The logic is on point, but how could he tell which switch that mummy was actually pointing at! Always bothered me as a kid.

  • @johngilmore697
    @johngilmore697 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How would I know which one I was

  • @doctorjoncook517
    @doctorjoncook517 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mummy’s

  • @ohyeah1994
    @ohyeah1994 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    0:34 - Duck tape?

    • @nyosito
      @nyosito 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      and badly done too - look at the creases!

    • @clocktowerhill8760
      @clocktowerhill8760 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Assistant directors have rolls of it attached to them

  • @ivanostellato9478
    @ivanostellato9478 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    or ask, if u were bady guy or good guy and wanted to die wich button to push to die

    • @MaccamatBux
      @MaccamatBux ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The bad guy would still lie and point at the good one.

    • @ivanostellato9478
      @ivanostellato9478 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MaccamatBux the evil guys would do the opposite

  • @icarusandtherabbit
    @icarusandtherabbit หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lucky Karl Pilkington wasn’t playing the Doctor.

  • @DaryckReese300
    @DaryckReese300 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This Resembles A Very Special Riddle, From An Episode of The Powerpuff Girls, "Him Diddle Riddle" In Which They Saw There Were Two Identical Ms. Keane, Which Are Hovering Over A Very Heated Swimming Pool, With Man-Eating Sharks, and Discover Which One of Ms. Keane is The Truthteller and The Other Ms. Keane is The Liar, and Also On Yu-Gi-Oh, Where Yugi Moto and Joey Wheeler Had A Very Similar Riddle, At Maximillan's Duelist Kingdom, Where They Face Off With The Two Brothers of Para and Dox.

    • @markpostgate2551
      @markpostgate2551  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes it is an example of a very old tradition of abstract logic puzzles involving truth-tellers and liars which have been appearing in TV shows, magazines and children's christmas annuals and other such places for ages and ages. The original reason I ever needed this uploaded was to use it as an example of the genre of puzzle.

  • @examiningdata7952
    @examiningdata7952 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    k9

  • @ivanostellato9478
    @ivanostellato9478 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    you found a reality wall not a puzzle, there is no solution using this reality, doctor was wrong, you have to ask .. if you were the bad guy and wanted to live which button to push to live

    • @simmorg290
      @simmorg290 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Your comment is a year old but I'll reply anyway. The good guy would know that the bad guy would lie and point to the death button so that's the button the good guy would point at. The bad guy would know that the bad guy in your question would point at the death button so he would lie and point at the live button. So obviously that's not what you want.

  • @DK-pb7tr
    @DK-pb7tr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Unfortunately the series failed after this mainly due to poor script s and casting, such a shame

    • @rw-xf4cb
      @rw-xf4cb ปีที่แล้ว

      Blame Mary Whitehouse she was on a crusade to destroy it because - think of the children...she caused the BBC to remove Holmes and Hinchcliffe there by killing the golden age of Dr Who, other than City of Death....

    • @jakeisthedoctor2308
      @jakeisthedoctor2308 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What do you mean? This season was great!

    • @MaccamatBux
      @MaccamatBux ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What are you talking about?

    • @rw-xf4cb
      @rw-xf4cb ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@MaccamatBux Mary Whitehouse was a vocal critic of the golden years of Dr Who (Tom Baker, Robert Holmes) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Seeds_of_Doom she was against the minor amount of horror/violence showing up in Dr Who and pushed to get Dr Who taken off the air. The effect was Robert Holmes was moved on to more adult tv programming and thus the great stories, Hand of Fear, Pyramid of Mars, Terror of the Zygons, Tales of Wang Chiang etc were never surpassed. I guess until what I think as the Weeping Angels probably being the most scariest of any Dr Who since Baker.

    • @rw-xf4cb
      @rw-xf4cb ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@jakeisthedoctor2308 Robert Holmes was part of the writing team for Pyramids of Mars and many others. Quote from Wikipedia
      Holmes was known for his morbid sense of humour and his inclination to write dark and disturbing material. The previous producer Barry Letts often had Holmes tone down his writing, but Letts's successor Philip Hinchcliffe wanted to take the programme in a darker and more dynamic direction along with the introduction of its new lead actor, Tom Baker.
      Holmes continued as script editor for the next three years, seeing Doctor Who through one of its most successful eras in terms of both viewing figures and critical acclaim. Despite this, a number of stories came under fire from Mary Whitehouse of the National Viewers' and Listeners' Association for their alleged excessive violence or frightening tone. Some of the most controversial stories were written by Holmes himself.

  • @visog
    @visog 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Which switch would he indicate?" for what. Script flawed as the Doctor's question does not specify an outcome so he could not know to which outcome the guardian was answering too. Labyrinth did it better: th-cam.com/video/2dgmgub8mHw/w-d-xo.html

    • @CM26617
      @CM26617 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Given that the Doctor refers to 'the question' and the Eye poses the Riddle as: "Which is the Guardian of Life?", one COULD infer that the question being posed is 'Which is the release switch?'.
      Not CLEAR, yes, but followable.

  • @narcissusnarwhal7141
    @narcissusnarwhal7141 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I watched this episode when it was first screened on TV nearly fifty (48?) years ago and remembered the scene with the riddle so vividly that I related it to my young children only yesterday. Thank you for posting this clip which my children then asked to see of it.

    • @PMA65537
      @PMA65537 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It was in the book too.