Fared zakaria is wrong when he says India pressurized the Maharaja of Kashmir to accede to India. If anything pressurized the Raja to sign up with India, it was the unprovoked attack by Pakistan in Kashmir! In fact, when the Raja approached Sardar Patel for military help when Pakistani troops entered Kashmir, Patel told him the Indian troops are meant to protect India and not a foreign territory which Kashmir was at that time. It was then that the Raja signed the accession and once Kashmir became an Indian territory, India sent its troops to protect its territory. Had Patel been given another 15 to 20 days he would have driven the Pakistanis completely out of Kashmir. It was unfortunate that Nehru took a unilateral decision to go to UN with this problem and stopped the war. Pakistan ended up occupying a part of Kashmir.
Look at his name and see where his loyalty lies, he acts like secular, but these people have a concept of Taqquyia to lie the kuffars in Jihad, has he mentioned the Sanatham Daharm Hindus history before the Islamic invasion of Kashmir no, because he a islamists and abarhamist l, those 3 cults are he'll bent to destroy Sanatham Dharam from face of the planet wake up and stand for two your rights, these genocidal Abraham's won't shed a tear for us and maybe dedicate a wing to their museums to our lost culture like they have through out the world
"Maharaja of Kashmir decided to go with India perhaps under duress of Nehru and rulers of India"! so says this American stooge Fareed Zakaria. What duress? Kashmir was invaded by Mujahideens and Army persons dressed up as Mujahideens. Aim was to take over the valley by force. As they neared Srinagar, they resorted to loot and rape. The duress that Maharaja faced was: will India come to his rescue or not. When he signed the accession treaty, India did come to his rescue.
Fareed is an opportunist at best. He gave great reviews of Modi after he interviewed him, because he wanted to show that he would not criticize Modi just because he happens to be a muslim, he wanted to show he is unbiased. He then told John Oliver that Modi probably did not order people to kill muslims but he (Modi) probably knew that they (Muslims) would get killed anyway if he remained silent (didn't do enough). He had to somehow mention that all the courts found Modi not guilty (because he is the expert in John's show , and people would have questioned his bias if didn't mention it) but at the same time suggest that Modi is not innocent. He clearly is biased but puts across his biased point of view in subtle ways. There are many other instances where it is visible. You pointed out one here in this video. He conveniently does not mention the Mujahideens.
He said perhaps, and it's documented that the Maharaja wanted to be independent. And when the militias attacked, India put a condition on them to accept accession to India if they wished to be defended by Indian forces. Now, you could be right arguing that India put up a condition as every state legitimately could to give something in return. But it's also true that you could see it in a different perspective, that the Maharaja who would have otherwise never signed, was put in a spot to choose something when he was under attack. That perhaps India should have supported initially and negotiated later. Now, truly we'll only claim as we should that India had a legitimate right to put a condition. But it's not illogical or dystopian for a third party to see it as India taking unfair advantage of the situation and Pakistan obviously will only claim that it was completely under duress. There are no correct things in this, you are influenced by what you are taught and so is everyone. It's always better if we could find common ground for discussion with knowledgeable foreigners and sensible Pakistanis on these issues without always getting offended for people characterising thing differently from the narrative that we'd like. Obviously, it's different narratives coming together and discussing with much bigger intentions in mind. It's petty to then be caught up in smaller narrative issues and calling people names for that. Fareed Zakaria being a moderator is supposed to take a third party approach there.
Claiming that Pakistan "needs" Kashmir so that it can Start to Develop as a country (any excuse is better than none) is a load of codswallop. 'Pakistan is an army with a country, not a country with an army'. "Needing" to fight to take Kashmir is simply the army's justification for its first cut of the government budget. M.Ali Jinnah must be turning in his grave; a man with a lot to answer for.
tanjimlusary why do u say so?....i think people are having hopes from d new PM i don't know much of his activities and policies towards india but people are looking for hope from him....i might be wrong because that's what the media says....and as for about the past i think it's better to look into future not dwell over there.....
very thought provoking talks by Mr Haqqani who is a visionary standing up to entrenched bigotry and delusional mind set of the ruling class in Pakistan.He should continue his excellent debates and write on these subjects which will Inshallah one day bear fruit of tolerance,education,respect for others,enlightenment, prosperty and peace in this troubled region.May God bless him
@@_rayan9133 72 abba aur jija waale rape jihad ki najayaz paidaish ganduudin namazi aashiq gay rasool Muslim, tere tarah dikhne wale 🐖 khane wale Muhammad gando Ali laudakhor tb zada ghazi namazi pichwada waale jinnah ka baap hindu tha jaise teri begairat behaya ghasti mughaliya musalmina ammi khala ki Tarah ab teri mughaliya ghasti baaji ka din me 5 Baar doggy style namaz ke samay halala karne wala Tera jija ramlal khokhar hai 😂😂😂
Nehru-Indira-Rajiv created most of the problems for Indian people. Nehru created Kashmir and Sikh problem. Indira created Bangla Desh and aggrivated Sikh problem and Rajiv created Sri Lankan problem !
Indira did not create Bangladesh. Read up on the struggle of independence and how USSR vetoed resolutions at the UN. So there were far many actors and more importantly, a history of local movements (like 1952 Bengali Language Movement,etc) that culminated in 1971. However, India did help in the last few months of the war.
The best way might be the status quo for both of the nation and start trade to flourish between both. Both the nation have their claims for the whole of Kashmir. So, leaving a small part of it can not be accepted by any of the country or her population. The population that want to change their nationality from one to another should be allowed initially. And let the people cross the border as smoothly as much it can.
why did he say pakistan controlled kashmir " Azad kashmir", what does he mean? And if that is azad kashmir that means free kashmir then how chinese occupied kashmir is not an azad kashmir or free one.
Comments are more interesting than the discussion. Shows how less people know about the facts that led to accession of Kashmir to India. But Hussain Haqqani as he said is correct, not politically correct. That stupid nri was politically correct.
three muslims sitting together and talking about kashmir...what do you expect....Pakistan Occupied Kashmir...what these three Muslims called Azad Kashmir....is Indian territory even the Congressi Chidambram says this and it will be taken back. Everytime there is a terrorist attack India should take more of it.
European countries have same religion: Christianity. However, religion is the problem in South Asia. Thus, there can never be any peace in South Asia because of religion or of religious differences. Kashmir is not the only issue. Even if India gives Kashmir on a plate to Pakistan, they will start another issue.
This is an Islamic mindset problem. Religions has caused enough of atrocities in India, still there are people talking about Muslims are been killed. Hindus are been killed for decades. its time to ignore religion, India will be a better place without religion in the mainstream. Religion should never be an issue to be discussed. It should only be a personnel pursuit for betterment if a scripture can help some section of the society. Most indians does not need a scripture to lead their life. Scripture base religious Pakistanis are disastrous even after grabbing land from Hindus in the name of their religion.They don't value human as a whole, but religion and verses from their scripture as supreme.Biggest problem in humans perception happening in Kashmir and in many parts of the world.
Modi has said is 2022....that's it.... People used to make fun of him when he said he will remove 35A and 370... 😅 There were rivers of blood that were supposed to flow after any such actions but rather all i can see is river of tears by indians leftist and pakistanis...😭
fareed zakaria is a muslim from bombay india. his loyalty being a muslim has allegiance to porkistan. ma jinna gujarathi shia khoja grand father converted to islam sent porkistan military in disguise dressed in civilian clothes invaded kashmir. hari sing asked india's help. lord mount batten last british viceroy to india said india cannot help hari sing unless maharaja hari sing signs letter of accession to india, there was no duress or pressure from india. zakaris should be made aware. he is from india he ought to know the history, being a muslim he is sympathetic to porkistan. if he or his family migrated to porkistan he would be classified as 3rd class citizen mo(u)hajir (immigrant) of porkistan
Indians need to understand that we have forcibly been annexed and despite 50 years they have not been able to integrate us which provides manifestation of this fact. Constant killing, genocide and mass human right violations by Indian army could not waver our commitment. They should understand that our genuine struggle for freedom can be delayed but cannot be denied. A Kashmiri from Poonch
@ anwaar khan - do not worry. Integration will happen soon - and very soon you will be assimilated and mainstreamed within India and Indians. :-) India will soon - do away with 370 and 35A. That will pave the way for J&K becoming just another state of India - and integration can start happening. :-)
Partition formula clearly elucidates that Hindu majority areas to join India and Muslim majority to join Pakistan and it was applied to all princely states except Kashmir. This is how the problem started and will only settle once people will be given choice to decide.
Again pakistan stated books which claims junagadh a Hindu majority area and Hyderabad bacause they have muslim rulers while they claim Kashmir cause muslim majority. Truth- Everyone had a right to chose which country they want to go with or they want to make their own country. Kashmir wanted to be independent country and india agreed. But pakistan invaded there and broke the rule. Kashmiri raja asked help to india. At that time india came to picture. And we take 2/3rd part that time. It wasn't about hindu will go to india and muslims will go to pak. Muslims had a choice to chose between pak and ind.
Sabse pehle tu nikal BoxDK... U have done the Genocide of the indigenous people of Kashmir i.e. KASHMIRI PUNDITS...now u have no right to cry when KARMA is coming back to bite ur @ss
TYPICALMUSLIM FAREEDOPENING HIS FANGS MAHARAJA NOT UNDER PRESSURE FROM NEHRU IT WAS JINNAH AND SO CALLED TRIBALS REGULAR PAKISTAN ARMY DRESSED AS TRIALS.KASHMIRI PANDITS HAVE RIGHTS.INDIA WILL NEVER GIVE UPKASHMIR
both of the nations has an illegally occupied kashmir..... kashmiries nether whats india nor pak .. get that ....so dont try to be gods hear ..... we know our best ..... we want freedom ... freedom from india as well as from pakistan....
Then go to a island might be in pacific ocean and breath free.... Kashmir is the crown of our country. We will happily live with rest of those Kashmiris who want to be part of our nation :)
VERY GOOD ANSWER TRADE BLOOD OF INNOCENT 75 MILLION PEOPLES OF KASHMIR THAY ARE SUFFERING IN HUMANITY BY 80000+ SOLDIERS OF INDIAN ARMY IMAGINE WHAT CRUEL SINS THINGS THESE SOLDIER DOING IN KASHMIR INSANE
This debate only goes to create a situation that is already worse. The topic should have been how to create more trust between India and Pakistan. Once the trust is created then commerce and compromises can be achieved. The basic reason why Pakistan is after Kashmir never gets discussed. The reason is .. all of the rivers that flow into Panjab including the giant Indus river originate in Kashmir mountain. These waters can easily be diverted over time resulting in a dyer shortage of water leading possible to starvation and famine. It is in human for India to take that route but when there is no trust in the intention of the Indian government for the future. With history of Indian government in swallowing regions that it feels belong to united India, There is that possibility of this opportunity to subdue Pakistan into submission same as what occured in Bangladesh. This threat is the basis of the Kashmir crisis. This crisis has solution only in a build up of mutual trust. Mutual trust can never be built up with the demonstrated hatred that is so visible against non Hindus in the northern India today. Pakistan is only defending its right to have the MUslims be the first class citizen. Where in the world is such an opportunity exists for the Indian Muslim population except in Pakistan. Please change the debate in the light of my above argument. This debate has no productive results.
Within a couple of years i.e. The so called AZAD KASHMIR will be known as the erstwhile Pakistan occupied Kashmir .... Remember the year 2022... People made fun of modi when he said he will remove 370 and 35A, He will make ram temple, triple talaq, CAA... There were rivers of blood that were supposed to flow according to Pakistanis, but all that could manage to flow was rivers of tears ... So just wait for the fireworks in 2022... 😎
Apne anguthachaap jahil gando Nabi laudakhor tattikhor Muhammad ki tarah din me 5 Baar doggy style namaz me uthakar Allah ki 🍑 me lulla ho Akbar chillane wale ganduudin, jald teri begairat behaya ghasti rape jihad me chudkar convert hue ammi khala ki tarah teri baaji ki syeda ghazi haji namazi 🍑 me 🍆 ho Akbar halala me 5 Baar doggy style namaz ke samay 🍆 ho Akbar se ho raha honga 😂😂
@arslan jutt - Kashmir was and will always be a part of India. If Pakistan thinks that they can take it - let them go ahead and try one more time. Pakistan tried to take it over 4 wars - with no success whatsoever. I assure you the result will not be different in any way whatsoever in their 5th or 6th or 40th tries. That is what is being said in the clip above. Kashmir, I wd say, does belong to Kashmirs - and they are welcome to autonomous, self-rule under India. :-) Total Independence is out of question - because they they will be taken over by Pakistan like Baluchistan was. And giving it up what India controls to Pakistan - because of Muslim majority is out of question too. Does not make any strategic sense for India. So India will keep Kashmir the way Pakistan keeps Baluchistan. Those Kashmiris who don't want o belong to India - and would prefer to belong to Pakistan are free to cross the line go over to Azad Kashmir part of Pakistan :-) - that is if Pakistan is willing to have you. But I guess Pakistanis would only want Kashmir's land - not its people. :-)
Adi Shankaracharya established a Sri Sharada mandir in Kashmir and called the goddess Kashmira Pura Vaasini. This was even before Islam as a religion was established in the world. Kashmiri Hindu Pandits are THE ORIGINAL inhabitants of Kashmir. The Kashmiris that you now talk of are the migrants from Turkey and Hindus who were forcibly converted to Islam. So, just shut up and read history of Kashmir before commenting, keyboard warrior.
no the people of Kashmir belongs to Pakistan.and Kashmir is a Muslim majority state . look at UN. Pakistan will get Kashmir and try 1000 times doesn't matter..
Fared zakaria is wrong when he says India pressurized the Maharaja of Kashmir to accede to India. If anything pressurized the Raja to sign up with India, it was the unprovoked attack by Pakistan in Kashmir! In fact, when the Raja approached Sardar Patel for military help when Pakistani troops entered Kashmir, Patel told him the Indian troops are meant to protect India and not a foreign territory which Kashmir was at that time. It was then that the Raja signed the accession and once Kashmir became an Indian territory, India sent its troops to protect its territory. Had Patel been given another 15 to 20 days he would have driven the Pakistanis completely out of Kashmir. It was unfortunate that Nehru took a unilateral decision to go to UN with this problem and stopped the war. Pakistan ended up occupying a part of Kashmir.
The most correct absolute narrative to those who try to give a wrong picture of india
Look at his name and see where his loyalty lies, he acts like secular, but these people have a concept of Taqquyia to lie the kuffars in Jihad, has he mentioned the Sanatham Daharm Hindus history before the Islamic invasion of Kashmir no, because he a islamists and abarhamist l, those 3 cults are he'll bent to destroy Sanatham Dharam from face of the planet wake up and stand for two your rights, these genocidal Abraham's won't shed a tear for us and maybe dedicate a wing to their museums to our lost culture like they have through out the world
"Maharaja of Kashmir decided to go with India perhaps under duress of Nehru and rulers of India"! so says this American stooge Fareed Zakaria.
What duress?
Kashmir was invaded by Mujahideens and Army persons dressed up as Mujahideens. Aim was to take over the valley by force. As they neared Srinagar, they resorted to loot and rape. The duress that Maharaja faced was: will India come to his rescue or not. When he signed the accession treaty, India did come to his rescue.
Fareed is an opportunist at best. He gave great reviews of Modi after he interviewed him, because he wanted to show that he would not criticize Modi just because he happens to be a muslim, he wanted to show he is unbiased. He then told John Oliver that Modi probably did not order people to kill muslims but he (Modi) probably knew that they (Muslims) would get killed anyway if he remained silent (didn't do enough). He had to somehow mention that all the courts found Modi not guilty (because he is the expert in John's show , and people would have questioned his bias if didn't mention it) but at the same time suggest that Modi is not innocent.
He clearly is biased but puts across his biased point of view in subtle ways. There are many other instances where it is visible. You pointed out one here in this video. He conveniently does not mention the Mujahideens.
Surendra Nayyar
Don't you know how many Hindus have been killed from being of Islam.
He said perhaps, and it's documented that the Maharaja wanted to be independent. And when the militias attacked, India put a condition on them to accept accession to India if they wished to be defended by Indian forces.
Now, you could be right arguing that India put up a condition as every state legitimately could to give something in return. But it's also true that you could see it in a different perspective, that the Maharaja who would have otherwise never signed, was put in a spot to choose something when he was under attack. That perhaps India should have supported initially and negotiated later.
Now, truly we'll only claim as we should that India had a legitimate right to put a condition. But it's not illogical or dystopian for a third party to see it as India taking unfair advantage of the situation and Pakistan obviously will only claim that it was completely under duress. There are no correct things in this, you are influenced by what you are taught and so is everyone.
It's always better if we could find common ground for discussion with knowledgeable foreigners and sensible Pakistanis on these issues without always getting offended for people characterising thing differently from the narrative that we'd like. Obviously, it's different narratives coming together and discussing with much bigger intentions in mind. It's petty to then be caught up in smaller narrative issues and calling people names for that.
Fareed Zakaria being a moderator is supposed to take a third party approach there.
Claiming that Pakistan "needs" Kashmir so that it can Start to Develop as a country (any excuse is better than none) is a load of codswallop. 'Pakistan is an army with a country, not a country with an army'. "Needing" to fight to take Kashmir is simply the army's justification for its first cut of the government budget. M.Ali Jinnah must be turning in his grave; a man with a lot to answer for.
We are in process of leaving Pakistan and settling in Norway.. We have no hopes from this country ... Jinnah screwed us all.. big time
tanjimlusary why do u say so?....i think people are having hopes from d new PM i don't know much of his activities and policies towards india but people are looking for hope from him....i might be wrong because that's what the media says....and as for about the past i think it's better to look into future not dwell over there.....
tanjimlusary bon voyage
So now you will fuck over norway too . It'll soon end up becoming pak
very thought provoking talks by Mr Haqqani who is a visionary standing up to entrenched bigotry and delusional mind set of the ruling class in Pakistan.He should continue his excellent debates and write on these subjects which will Inshallah one day bear fruit of tolerance,education,respect for others,enlightenment, prosperty and peace in this troubled region.May God bless him
Whole Kashmir is a part of Indian
It is said that in December 1947 Patel had given Jinnah an offer of letting Kashmir go for a free hand in Hyderabad.
Jinnah the fool refused!
Jinnah aap ka bap bro
@@_rayan9133 72 abba aur jija waale rape jihad ki najayaz paidaish ganduudin namazi aashiq gay rasool Muslim, tere tarah dikhne wale 🐖 khane wale Muhammad gando Ali laudakhor tb zada ghazi namazi pichwada waale jinnah ka baap hindu tha jaise teri begairat behaya ghasti mughaliya musalmina ammi khala ki Tarah ab teri mughaliya ghasti baaji ka din me 5 Baar doggy style namaz ke samay halala karne wala Tera jija ramlal khokhar hai 😂😂😂
Nehru-Indira-Rajiv created most of the problems for Indian people. Nehru created Kashmir and Sikh problem. Indira created Bangla Desh and aggrivated Sikh problem and Rajiv created Sri Lankan problem !
Indira did not create Bangladesh. Read up on the struggle of independence and how USSR vetoed resolutions at the UN. So there were far many actors and more importantly, a history of local movements (like 1952 Bengali Language Movement,etc) that culminated in 1971. However, India did help in the last few months of the war.
Indira did not create the Bangladesh problem but solved the east pakistan problem.
Didn't expect this from Farid Zakaria, in the first one minute!
The best way might be the status quo for both of the nation and start trade to flourish between both. Both the nation have their claims for the whole of Kashmir. So, leaving a small part of it can not be accepted by any of the country or her population. The population that want to change their nationality from one to another should be allowed initially. And let the people cross the border as smoothly as much it can.
why did he say pakistan controlled kashmir " Azad kashmir", what does he mean?
And if that is azad kashmir that means free kashmir then how chinese occupied kashmir is not an azad kashmir or free one.
Azad Kashmir - Kashmir where people live freely ( Muslims)
Are there any people there in Aksai Chin?
Comments are more interesting than the discussion. Shows how less people know about the facts that led to accession of Kashmir to India. But Hussain Haqqani as he said is correct, not politically correct. That stupid nri was politically correct.
Pray for Gazah
Pakistan has 78,114 sq km, 37,555 sq to china and India rules over approximately 107,000 sq km...
three muslims sitting together and talking about kashmir...what do you expect....Pakistan Occupied Kashmir...what these three Muslims called Azad Kashmir....is Indian territory even the Congressi Chidambram says this and it will be taken back. Everytime there is a terrorist attack India should take more of it.
European countries have same religion: Christianity. However, religion is the problem in South Asia. Thus, there can never be any peace in South Asia because of religion or of religious differences. Kashmir is not the only issue. Even if India gives Kashmir on a plate to Pakistan, they will start another issue.
Sad to see sensible people like these are out of discussion ,if they are part then no another war will broke out.
If Pakistan's aim is to save Muslims of Kashmir, why don't they (Pakistanis) take all Muslims (stayed post partition) to Pakistan..
Well said. 👏👏👏👏
Ohhh nishid hajari...i respect you sir you are godgifted....🙏🙏🙏🙏
Hey just one correction..it is called pakistan occupied kashmir
Azad Kashmir
This is an Islamic mindset problem. Religions has caused enough of atrocities in India, still there are people talking about Muslims are been killed. Hindus are been killed for decades. its time to ignore religion, India will be a better place without religion in the mainstream. Religion should never be an issue to be discussed. It should only be a personnel pursuit for betterment if a scripture can help some section of the society. Most indians does not need a scripture to lead their life. Scripture base religious Pakistanis are disastrous even after grabbing land from Hindus in the name of their religion.They don't value human as a whole, but religion and verses from their scripture as supreme.Biggest problem in humans perception happening in Kashmir and in many parts of the world.
In another 5 years they will be sitting like this to discuss "Erstwhile Pakistan".....😀😀😁😁😂😂🤣🤣
Modi has said is 2022....that's it....
People used to make fun of him when he said he will remove 35A and 370...
😅
There were rivers of blood that were supposed to flow after any such actions but rather all i can see is river of tears by indians leftist and pakistanis...😭
Sorry Mr Zakaria you are confused about on Nehru and Gov of India.
fareed zakaria is a muslim from bombay india. his loyalty being a muslim has allegiance to porkistan. ma jinna gujarathi shia khoja grand father converted to islam sent porkistan military in disguise dressed in civilian clothes invaded kashmir. hari sing asked india's help. lord mount batten last british viceroy to india said india cannot help hari sing unless maharaja hari sing signs letter of accession to india, there was no duress or pressure from india.
zakaris should be made aware. he is from india he ought to know the history, being a muslim he is sympathetic to porkistan. if he or his family migrated to porkistan he would be classified as 3rd class citizen mo(u)hajir (immigrant) of porkistan
Why are you guys laughing when he said China has Third Kashmir?
Kashmir is not part for India Kashmir is part only for Pakistan what you want do everything we are more love Pakistan Army and I am Kashmiri
Agree with Haqani.
Indians need to understand that we have forcibly been annexed and despite 50 years they have not been able to integrate us which provides manifestation of this fact. Constant killing, genocide and mass human right violations by Indian army could not waver our commitment. They should understand that our genuine struggle for freedom can be delayed but cannot be denied.
A Kashmiri from Poonch
anwaar khan better accept your future with india ,becoz india will never leave kashmir!
anwaar khan Go to allah..
The problem of Kashmir is Islam.
Kashmir should be deislamised like china is doing with the uighurs.
Which Khan is in Kashmir?
@ anwaar khan - do not worry. Integration will happen soon - and very soon you will be assimilated and mainstreamed within India and Indians. :-)
India will soon - do away with 370 and 35A.
That will pave the way for J&K becoming just another state of India - and integration can start happening. :-)
Partition formula clearly elucidates that Hindu majority areas to join India and Muslim majority to join Pakistan and it was applied to all princely states except Kashmir. This is how the problem started and will only settle once people will be given choice to decide.
You clearly dont know the history of partition.
Again pakistan stated books which claims junagadh a Hindu majority area and Hyderabad bacause they have muslim rulers while they claim Kashmir cause muslim majority.
Truth-
Everyone had a right to chose which country they want to go with or they want to make their own country. Kashmir wanted to be independent country and india agreed. But pakistan invaded there and broke the rule. Kashmiri raja asked help to india. At that time india came to picture. And we take 2/3rd part that time. It wasn't about hindu will go to india and muslims will go to pak. Muslims had a choice to chose between pak and ind.
Lol....no
We freed Bangladesh
Pakistan doesn't have power to do anything
Both countries should leave... Kashmir.. and u pick traitor ( haqqani ) as ur analyst..
Sabse pehle tu nikal BoxDK...
U have done the Genocide of the indigenous people of Kashmir i.e. KASHMIRI PUNDITS...now u have no right to cry when KARMA is coming back to bite ur @ss
Keep crying
Pm Modi entered the chat. Pakkistan kya hai? 4 new countries coming soon.
Islam is not indigenous to Bharat. Thats why you never let abrahamics in.
Only means pain for the kashmiris but hey who cares
KARMA IS A B!TCH...
U did the Genocide of Kashmiri pundits now God has sent MODI to take the revenge of those innocent souls...
Now enjoy the show
TYPICALMUSLIM FAREEDOPENING HIS FANGS MAHARAJA NOT UNDER PRESSURE FROM NEHRU IT WAS JINNAH AND SO CALLED TRIBALS REGULAR PAKISTAN ARMY DRESSED AS TRIALS.KASHMIRI PANDITS HAVE RIGHTS.INDIA WILL NEVER GIVE UPKASHMIR
both of the nations has an illegally occupied kashmir..... kashmiries nether whats india nor pak .. get that ....so dont try to be gods hear ..... we know our best ..... we want freedom ... freedom from india as well as from pakistan....
Shah Himayoun The founder of Pakistan movement was kashmiri
Then go to a island might be in pacific ocean and breath free.... Kashmir is the crown of our country. We will happily live with rest of those Kashmiris who want to be part of our nation :)
Dream on.
VERY GOOD ANSWER TRADE BLOOD OF INNOCENT 75 MILLION PEOPLES OF KASHMIR THAY ARE SUFFERING IN HUMANITY BY 80000+ SOLDIERS OF INDIAN ARMY IMAGINE WHAT CRUEL SINS THINGS THESE SOLDIER DOING IN KASHMIR INSANE
Mm
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Fareed 'Plagiarist' Zakaria
This debate only goes to create a situation that is already worse. The topic should have been how to create more trust between India and Pakistan. Once the trust is created then commerce and compromises can be achieved. The basic reason why Pakistan is after Kashmir never gets discussed. The reason is .. all of the rivers that flow into Panjab including the giant Indus river originate in Kashmir mountain. These waters can easily be diverted over time resulting in a dyer shortage of water leading possible to starvation and famine. It is in human for India to take that route but when there is no trust in the intention of the Indian government for the future. With history of Indian government in swallowing regions that it feels belong to united India, There is that possibility of this opportunity to subdue Pakistan into submission same as what occured in Bangladesh. This threat is the basis of the Kashmir crisis. This crisis has solution only in a build up of mutual trust. Mutual trust can never be built up with the demonstrated hatred that is so visible against non Hindus in the northern India today. Pakistan is only defending its right to have the MUslims be the first class citizen. Where in the world is such an opportunity exists for the Indian Muslim population except in Pakistan. Please change the debate in the light of my above argument. This debate has no productive results.
What utter nonsense
Within a couple of years
i.e. The so called AZAD KASHMIR will be known as the erstwhile Pakistan occupied Kashmir ....
Remember the year 2022...
People made fun of modi when he said he will remove 370 and 35A,
He will make ram temple, triple talaq, CAA...
There were rivers of blood that were supposed to flow according to Pakistanis, but all that could manage to flow was rivers of tears ...
So just wait for the fireworks in 2022...
😎
Apne anguthachaap jahil gando Nabi laudakhor tattikhor Muhammad ki tarah din me 5 Baar doggy style namaz me uthakar Allah ki 🍑 me lulla ho Akbar chillane wale ganduudin, jald teri begairat behaya ghasti rape jihad me chudkar convert hue ammi khala ki tarah teri baaji ki syeda ghazi haji namazi 🍑 me 🍆 ho Akbar halala me 5 Baar doggy style namaz ke samay 🍆 ho Akbar se ho raha honga 😂😂
Kashmir is not part of india
@arslan jutt - Kashmir was and will always be a part of India.
If Pakistan thinks that they can take it - let them go ahead and try one more time.
Pakistan tried to take it over 4 wars - with no success whatsoever.
I assure you the result will not be different in any way whatsoever in their 5th or 6th or 40th tries.
That is what is being said in the clip above.
Kashmir, I wd say, does belong to Kashmirs - and they are welcome to autonomous, self-rule under India. :-)
Total Independence is out of question - because they they will be taken over by Pakistan like Baluchistan was.
And giving it up what India controls to Pakistan - because of Muslim majority is out of question too.
Does not make any strategic sense for India. So India will keep Kashmir the way Pakistan keeps Baluchistan.
Those Kashmiris who don't want o belong to India - and would prefer to belong to Pakistan are free to cross the line go over to Azad Kashmir part of Pakistan :-) - that is if Pakistan is willing to have you.
But I guess Pakistanis would only want Kashmir's land - not its people. :-)
Adi Shankaracharya established a Sri Sharada mandir in Kashmir and called the goddess Kashmira Pura Vaasini. This was even before Islam as a religion was established in the world. Kashmiri Hindu Pandits are THE ORIGINAL inhabitants of Kashmir. The Kashmiris that you now talk of are the migrants from Turkey and Hindus who were forcibly converted to Islam. So, just shut up and read history of Kashmir before commenting, keyboard warrior.
no the people of Kashmir belongs to Pakistan.and Kashmir is a Muslim majority state . look at UN. Pakistan will get Kashmir and try 1000 times doesn't matter..
someone tell me why Kashmir is still in lockdown condition and why 370.act is used.
Entire pakistan is part of India.
Whole Kashmir is a part of Indian