Correction: When I said Blackmagic cameras are power efficient, I referred to when they are being used with V-Mount batteries. The battery life with the standard in-body batteries is still bad and always has been.
Its not a review. You need to remember that. It's very important to not categorize it as such. Linus talks more about it in the linus tech tips studio tour on gamers nexus' channel
@@xmlthegreat It's definitely not the most in depth but I'd consider this a good enough video to help make up my decision on whether or not to buy this camera
@@ConorORegan *DO NOT* make a purchase decision based on this video. I'm someone who works in this field. This does not even go close to the detail you'd need to make a decision. This is just a fun video.
Well they do it on ltt a lot too though, it's too heavily tied into the other content. Editing especially. Editing is either not their content or absolutely mainstream content on ltt. Filming is kind of unnecessary it doesn't change much from the videos they do and those are too rare for a full channel. They also need all people qualified for such a channel for filming videos in the first place and to hire a camera operator purely for making videos on it surely doesn't make the employee as happy as... operating cameras. I think unboxings and the occasional other video dedicated to it is fine for now until they get so big that they can dedicate a full team to this which is just too much as of now
"They sent over Battery Pro Grip, which is basically just like a Battery Grip" That´s basically just like me whenever I need to hit a certain number of words in a school essay.
The back screen is actually the one with ‘bad’ color. Their calibration out of the factory varies from allright to terrible, so they added a feature for you to calibrate it manually.
In one of reviews on this camera they said that the battery grip allows hot swap of batteries which comes in handy for long duration shooting with no wall plug or other power supply, which kinda make sense to me.
@@jurrich ikr. it's just people don't really shoot video in portrait (vertical) so I think the battery grip is not really a 'grip' because people won't be holding the camera vertically. thus hot-swapping batteries is the only explanation that might be useful in some cases. but yeah I agree that using something like one of those portable power supplies or vmount bat will be better.
Yeah all of the other far better battery solutions let you do that. The tilta vmount riser is the way that should be implemented if you want to stack for some reason. But for hand held I really like the weight behind the camera to counterbalance the lense and other front heavy accessories.
I love it. It's a crazy product, and a useful one. It's definitely a fun piece of kit. I hope BlackMagic continues to make fun cameras in the future, while also maturing their bigger offerings like they have already. And that grip is definitely an odd choice. Though, with a cage added to the body grip combo, and a p-tap battery hanging off the back, your weight distribution may actually balance.
Brandon's camera videos make me feel like when I was 13 and I'd just started watching LTT because I wanted to buy a new gaming keyboard and found myself down a rabbithole I'll never escape. thanks
I love it when all these pro cameras still use Sony Infolithium batteries even when it's a very old standard, it's nice seeing these batteries live on, such a heritage of these batteries being used in a lot of camera gear
Been using this since it came out in the UK, I have to say, massive improvements over the 4k and 6k, not quite as good as using an Ursa, but the size is nice. The battery grip height is slightly annoying, but the fact you can hot-swap batteries have up to like 3hours of recording is amazing. The flip-out screen is literally probably the best feature on it, when you have the 4k,6k, and 6k pro next to each other, it just leaps ahead in quality. It does have a fair few software bugs though, one being when it came out, seems to be patched now (Mostly) built-in LUTs would have so many problems actually enabling, even though it said it supported the new camera and new colour science.
The 6k pro may well end up being my first cinema-ish camera, tbh. Someone traded me a bunch of EF glass and an EOS for a mirrorless Sony I had but was not using. The only thing that is missing is something to use that glass to film with. I have large pockets 😏
the pocket cameras have definitely not been known for power efficiency. but with some solid external power delivery options the battery grip does feel pretty niche. I can see some operators going external power on most rigs and battery grip for some more handheld-y situations
The battery grip on the BMP6K is super useful when shooting real estate videos, as the camera is usually on a gimbal, with most V-mount kits affecting the balance and the time to replace in-body batteries and rebalance being functionally prohibitive. And at $150 it’s cheap enough and functional enough to make it worth the investment.
I use 2x BMPCC 6K's for work (im a Producer at a massive university). I actually filmed all day today 😅🎬. The 6k Pro is definitely tempting with added features. I despise Blackmagic's ergonomics aside from UI/menus/screen which are superior to every other camera manufacturer.
Some of the screens had a major problem with blue shift. Might be what's going on with yours as well. The released a software update where you can manually calibrate the rear screen. So my guess would be the EVF would be more accurate
I dunno why but i really enjoy this guy reviewing cameras, wish they would do more of him showing diff cameras, would be cool to see him do a vid on dslr streaming options, like with a cam link
Agreed, I wish they'd drop the ridiculous "pocket" monkier already. Blackmagic Cinema Camera 6K would have been a nice throwback to the "toaster" camera.
It is little bigger but it does so much more. Size is well justified. I just wish they do true follow-up to original Pocket. Call it Pocket classic and give it just full size hdmi and at least 2k 60p, and improve that battery life please.
The one thing that people seem to skip over with Blackmagic cameras is the image quality and color science. They easily have some of the best you can get in the price ranges their cameras fall into. Yes the form factors are unconventional and 3 party accessories aren't as plentiful. But if you want a real cinema experience and look and YOU ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT YOUR DOING TO GET THE BEST POSSIBLE IMAGE their cameras (basically the whole eco system with Davinci Resolve) is a no brainer.
We recently just got 2 of these bad boys and sold all our other cameras. It's the best camera we've ever used. Period. It's the best bang for the buck with all the features and capabilities you can get out of it.
really glad you guys checked out this camera. ive been on the fence about ordering one cause i start Film school soon and i think for the price and features it might be a great started cinema camera.
I've been using the Pocket 4K for some time now and for my purposes having a cage with an external monitor and V-Mount Battery is alot more suitable than the battery grip or the adjustable screen. The Build-in NDs are awesome but honestly no reason for me to switch as alot of affordable variable ND options exist for the majority of lenses i use
I've been waiting for a decent camcorder that does 4K+, but this definitely seems like a better option. Not exactly the form factor I'd be looking for, but the features to price ratio is a lot closer to the alternatives.
This is nothing like a camcorder. You need to buy lenses, it has basically no autofocus, the file sizes are massive, and the battery life is kinda bad. All those are the opposite of a high end camcorder.
Yeah I messed around with one of these 6k pro's the other day for the first time and I was also blown away by just how big and bulky that sucker is. Hell of a lot of value though, amazing time for camera people!
Your daylight is not the same daylight we test this. I mean it's clearly overcast when you tested the camera outdoors. Try the build in monitor when you have full strength sunlight....
I don't get it. Why do you guys show 50fps footage when the video is uploaded only in 30fps? I get that you store all your raw videos and need tons on Terabytes already, but at least for those camera review a high fps render would be nice. None the less, the review was great :D
Imagine: you are a professional filmmaker and buy a 3,500 worth of camera and you are disappointed because you can’t carry it in your pocket altough it has ”pocket” in it’s name.
I really wish there was 10 stops of ND. I've also noticed that the ND has a slight green tint to it. However, this is probably correctable by adjusting the tint function on the camera. But, yea, I think you're better off with a 6 or 4 K and then adding ND separately.
I think a cold shoe external battery has to be a better option mounted on a cage. But having a few charged batteries is how I roll and never had a problem. (Except when I forget to charge them)
I don't see this as a particularly useful all-rounder videography camera, but as a streaming/live camera (for 4k nature etc, obviously not twitch streaming) this is a pretty compelling camera. Mount it, connect a fiberoptic HDMI cable and a decent shotgun mic, and off you go. Before this, the only affordable option you had was something like a GH5 or 6D-II with a good monitor (and the same decent mic).
The battery grip could be useful for those who need to shoot lots of social media content in vertical format. That being said it wouldn’t work well ergonomically if you need to connect lots of accessories.
I recommend Titan Ridge (!) Thunderbolt 3 NVMe enclosures as an external USB-C SSD solution to record to. These can fallback to USB 3.0 5 Gbit/s the camera can use and afterwards you can attach it to a computer with Thunderbolt 3 to get full 32 Gbit/s speeds to transfer the files or directly edit off of them. (Have a PCC6k)
Less than 20 seconds in and Brandon has already shown he's a rightful LMG employee (0:14) 2 minutes later (2:08) "Notice how the original Pocket is a lot easier to get the sensor messed up with." Camera professional at work ;3
The Sigma fp is the spiritual successor of the pocket idea. There is a market for the p6kpro but it's not the most people. It will be people that come from DSLR which is a little odd. It's a Sony sensor for the p4k and p6k, unlike the Ursa line or original cinema/pocket camera which were Fairchild custom developments that BMD had an exclusivity contract with for a while. The 80MP sensor is unknown as I doubt BMD has their own fab.
Honestly kind of want to grab one of these to replace my Canon GX10 (the body retails for the same price that this whole-ass camcorder retailed for in 2017 so, like, it's entirely doable).
Correction: When I said Blackmagic cameras are power efficient, I referred to when they are being used with V-Mount batteries. The battery life with the standard in-body batteries is still bad and always has been.
Oh, ok. You've been in the field so long, Brandon! Timelines just fade out, eh?
What Lav mic are you using? It sounds so good.
@@zachariah380 They don't use lavs for Short Circuit. There's a shotgun mic above him.
Brandon putting the camera in his pocket with the sensor exposed really triggered me lol
Oh my gosh same. I was so stressed the whole time😂
When you're surrounded by that much gear I guess it loses it's charms
Disgusting. I’ll get the rubbing alcohol to clean it right away 😭
@@abavariannormiepleb9470 excuse me please dont
Easy. There are professional sensor clean tools on the market, just wipe once.
Brandon’s camera reviews are definitely some of the best videos on this channel
Its not a review. You need to remember that. It's very important to not categorize it as such. Linus talks more about it in the linus tech tips studio tour on gamers nexus' channel
@@Helycon that's very true, it's definitely not an in depth review but it's a great overview
It's a basic overview. I wouldn't make a purchase decision based on this video at all.
@@xmlthegreat It's definitely not the most in depth but I'd consider this a good enough video to help make up my decision on whether or not to buy this camera
@@ConorORegan *DO NOT* make a purchase decision based on this video. I'm someone who works in this field. This does not even go close to the detail you'd need to make a decision. This is just a fun video.
Nearly 15 minutes of Brandon constantly being surprised by how big things are
👀👀
Joe be like
Giggity
Pocket as in "Pocket Battleship"?
i mean, blackmagic for a reason
Would love a LTT channel dedicated to cameras, filming, and editing.
That would be amazing
This would definitely be fantastic, Brandon definitely knows his stuff
Don't give him Ideas that man has already opened 4 channels next thing you know he has separate channel for, cars etc.
Well they do it on ltt a lot too though, it's too heavily tied into the other content. Editing especially. Editing is either not their content or absolutely mainstream content on ltt. Filming is kind of unnecessary it doesn't change much from the videos they do and those are too rare for a full channel. They also need all people qualified for such a channel for filming videos in the first place and to hire a camera operator purely for making videos on it surely doesn't make the employee as happy as... operating cameras. I think unboxings and the occasional other video dedicated to it is fine for now until they get so big that they can dedicate a full team to this which is just too much as of now
@@achintyagamer996 honestly it makes sense to diversify channels if you can be consistent and they definitely are consistent
"They sent over Battery Pro Grip, which is basically just like a Battery Grip"
That´s basically just like me whenever I need to hit a certain number of words in a school essay.
Lmfao, same.
Lol same like me
Meanwhile for me and the other students I know, we have to to cut down words to not exceed the word limit
The back screen is actually the one with ‘bad’ color.
Their calibration out of the factory varies from allright to terrible, so they added a feature for you to calibrate it manually.
6:55 “The Pockets have always been fairly power efficient.”
- No BMPCC owner ever.
"Better have an extra V-mount battery plate" is what every BMPCC owner said :p
Yes very much this.
I think he genuinely meant inefficient. Given the context, it makes more sense too.
We demand more of this, thank you
@ham nai h wtf is this supposed to mean? This has nothing to do with cameras whatsoever..
I clicked faster than Linus dropping the camera.
Its all fun in games until Linus drops
Me too
Off
Am I the only one that wonders how many times Linus has dropped one of the REDs? Lol
In one of reviews on this camera they said that the battery grip allows hot swap of batteries which comes in handy for long duration shooting with no wall plug or other power supply, which kinda make sense to me.
Kinda, but bringing a portable power supply like the 1000W Jackery Power Station that got reviewed on LTT a while back probably makes even more sense.
@@jurrich or given that its a cine camera, youd probably just get vmounts and a plate to attack them to.
@@jurrich ikr. it's just people don't really shoot video in portrait (vertical) so I think the battery grip is not really a 'grip' because people won't be holding the camera vertically. thus hot-swapping batteries is the only explanation that might be useful in some cases. but yeah I agree that using something like one of those portable power supplies or vmount bat will be better.
Yeah all of the other far better battery solutions let you do that. The tilta vmount riser is the way that should be implemented if you want to stack for some reason. But for hand held I really like the weight behind the camera to counterbalance the lense and other front heavy accessories.
This feels like one of those WWII cameras that were basically a scaled up version of normal cameras.
Brandon checking the EVF price reminded me of Linus at the Reds Unboxing
The evf is one of the cheapest on the market.
0:00 Brandon's savage remarks is why I'm here.
"If you're looking for an affordable car, well then you've probably heard of Rolls Royce."
I love hearing Andy laugh in the background. Lets give him a shot on the SC table soon! I love you Linus!
I love it. It's a crazy product, and a useful one. It's definitely a fun piece of kit. I hope BlackMagic continues to make fun cameras in the future, while also maturing their bigger offerings like they have already. And that grip is definitely an odd choice. Though, with a cage added to the body grip combo, and a p-tap battery hanging off the back, your weight distribution may actually balance.
Brandon's camera videos make me feel like when I was 13 and I'd just started watching LTT because I wanted to buy a new gaming keyboard and found myself down a rabbithole I'll never escape.
thanks
Any update on the ursa mini pros? It might be interesting to hear about how they've worked out.
I love it when all these pro cameras still use Sony Infolithium batteries even when it's a very old standard, it's nice seeing these batteries live on, such a heritage of these batteries being used in a lot of camera gear
Been using this since it came out in the UK, I have to say, massive improvements over the 4k and 6k, not quite as good as using an Ursa, but the size is nice. The battery grip height is slightly annoying, but the fact you can hot-swap batteries have up to like 3hours of recording is amazing. The flip-out screen is literally probably the best feature on it, when you have the 4k,6k, and 6k pro next to each other, it just leaps ahead in quality. It does have a fair few software bugs though, one being when it came out, seems to be patched now (Mostly) built-in LUTs would have so many problems actually enabling, even though it said it supported the new camera and new colour science.
The 6k pro may well end up being my first cinema-ish camera, tbh. Someone traded me a bunch of EF glass and an EOS for a mirrorless Sony I had but was not using. The only thing that is missing is something to use that glass to film with.
I have large pockets 😏
the pocket cameras have definitely not been known for power efficiency. but with some solid external power delivery options the battery grip does feel pretty niche. I can see some operators going external power on most rigs and battery grip for some more handheld-y situations
Brandon is becoming my go to guy, along with the camera store, and potato jet!
Brandon and his camera reviews are always the best.
I got cargo pants. It'll fit in my pockets 💪😉
The battery grip on the BMP6K is super useful when shooting real estate videos, as the camera is usually on a gimbal, with most V-mount kits affecting the balance and the time to replace in-body batteries and rebalance being functionally prohibitive. And at $150 it’s cheap enough and functional enough to make it worth the investment.
This man proved to me that whatever you do they will complain
The first group to do a proper unboxing. Bravo LTT. Edit: It's called "Pocket" because it's easy on the "pocket"; not the size of the camera.
I use 2x BMPCC 6K's for work (im a Producer at a massive university). I actually filmed all day today 😅🎬. The 6k Pro is definitely tempting with added features. I despise Blackmagic's ergonomics aside from UI/menus/screen which are superior to every other camera manufacturer.
Some of the screens had a major problem with blue shift. Might be what's going on with yours as well. The released a software update where you can manually calibrate the rear screen. So my guess would be the EVF would be more accurate
Please give Brandon a camera centric LTT channel. It's what plants crave
I think this is the first time I ever heard something at 2500 usd being called a budget option
Brandon discussing cameras always ends as a great video!
I dunno why but i really enjoy this guy reviewing cameras, wish they would do more of him showing diff cameras, would be cool to see him do a vid on dslr streaming options, like with a cam link
My old iPhone 4s : Hold my beer
Brandon makes me want to try photography. His voice is so ASMR. Anyone else?
Agreed, I wish they'd drop the ridiculous "pocket" monkier already. Blackmagic Cinema Camera 6K would have been a nice throwback to the "toaster" camera.
I'd rather they made a better camera. They could call it the Turd Sandwich Pro for all I care.
Blackmagic Naming scheme -
Pocket as in pocket friendly ? As in easy on the wallet cause you put your wallet in your pocket ?
Brandon, I stopped carrying about cameras in 2002, but you make me want to get into it again 😁
It is little bigger but it does so much more. Size is well justified. I just wish they do true follow-up to original Pocket. Call it Pocket classic and give it just full size hdmi and at least 2k 60p, and improve that battery life please.
My friend who helps me film Weddings got this camera and we were beyond surprised. I’m excited for what the next URSA has to offer.
He is sincerely making video
The only good person on this channel
The one thing that people seem to skip over with Blackmagic cameras is the image quality and color science. They easily have some of the best you can get in the price ranges their cameras fall into. Yes the form factors are unconventional and 3 party accessories aren't as plentiful. But if you want a real cinema experience and look and YOU ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT YOUR DOING TO GET THE BEST POSSIBLE IMAGE their cameras (basically the whole eco system with Davinci Resolve) is a no brainer.
We recently just got 2 of these bad boys and sold all our other cameras. It's the best camera we've ever used. Period. It's the best bang for the buck with all the features and capabilities you can get out of it.
Always nice to see Brandon host. I don't care about video cameras, but he cares enough for both of us.
really glad you guys checked out this camera. ive been on the fence about ordering one cause i start Film school soon and i think for the price and features it might be a great started cinema camera.
I've been using the Pocket 4K for some time now and for my purposes having a cage with an external monitor and V-Mount Battery is alot more suitable than the battery grip or the adjustable screen. The Build-in NDs are awesome but honestly no reason for me to switch as alot of affordable variable ND options exist for the majority of lenses i use
Can you do a minimilist Kit/build for the regular 6K for someone wanting to shoot only TH-cam video?
just go with the 4k and save money for a lens.
I've been waiting for a decent camcorder that does 4K+, but this definitely seems like a better option. Not exactly the form factor I'd be looking for, but the features to price ratio is a lot closer to the alternatives.
This is nothing like a camcorder. You need to buy lenses, it has basically no autofocus, the file sizes are massive, and the battery life is kinda bad. All those are the opposite of a high end camcorder.
Yeah I messed around with one of these 6k pro's the other day for the first time and I was also blown away by just how big and bulky that sucker is. Hell of a lot of value though, amazing time for camera people!
A Brandon camera video, outstanding.
Gotta say: Brandon's hair always great.
Your daylight is not the same daylight we test this. I mean it's clearly overcast when you tested the camera outdoors. Try the build in monitor when you have full strength sunlight....
Brandon should do more often camera reviews and smartphone camera comparison for upcoming flagships . He is an awesome camera reviewer .
7:20 is kinda funny given how popular vertical video now is. The grip probably aged quite well.
8:02 literally looks like a cannon, the gunpowder kind
I'm gonna buy this camera. Thanks for the review
Putting a camera with an exposed sensor in your pocket... I winced.
Please review the BMD ATEM Mini extreme ISO, please
i have the 4k, and daym, except big file sizes and useless battery i absolutely love it... worth every cent
i liked the depth of field with brandon in front of the camera
I don't get it. Why do you guys show 50fps footage when the video is uploaded only in 30fps? I get that you store all your raw videos and need tons on Terabytes already, but at least for those camera review a high fps render would be nice. None the less, the review was great :D
Imagine: you are a professional filmmaker and buy a 3,500 worth of camera and you are disappointed because you can’t carry it in your pocket altough it has ”pocket” in it’s name.
BMD has had a lot of deviance on the built-in screens of the Pockets. That's why from the latest firmware on the built-in screen can be calibrated.
This video in 6 words: this is bigger than i expected
This camera looks amazing and very useful, and it is fcking affordable, which is greaatttt
I click this faster than replying to my moms texts
Perfect guy for the job 👏
I really wish there was 10 stops of ND. I've also noticed that the ND has a slight green tint to it. However, this is probably correctable by adjusting the tint function on the camera. But, yea, I think you're better off with a 6 or 4 K and then adding ND separately.
I love the OG pocket, I still use it for 'safe' action video. In car video instead of a gopro. this thing is ultra chungus.
Eyyyyyyooo new brandon video
Did you just put an uncovered sensor in your pocket? is that camera old and not useful anymore?
I know it's not a full review but some comparisons to even the camera you use for short circuit would have been nice.
I have the new 6K pro G2 with a battery grip (£ 66-second hand with 2 batteries) and yes well worth the money, I love it and yes it is very big.
Oh boy a brandon hosted video?
YES PLEASE.
I think a cold shoe external battery has to be a better option mounted on a cage. But having a few charged batteries is how I roll and never had a problem. (Except when I forget to charge them)
I love how their cameras look like a cheap Aliexpress knockoff but they perform amazing. Got to love this machine! Without grip.
I don't see this as a particularly useful all-rounder videography camera, but as a streaming/live camera (for 4k nature etc, obviously not twitch streaming) this is a pretty compelling camera. Mount it, connect a fiberoptic HDMI cable and a decent shotgun mic, and off you go. Before this, the only affordable option you had was something like a GH5 or 6D-II with a good monitor (and the same decent mic).
When will you have a “Linus Cam Tips”
Would love to see a video for camera beginners :) Like a budget setup. A Travel setup and that´s all for a good price
Just got this camera myself and compared to a c100 mark ii it is proving much better to handle for nature videography.
Dance Taran, dance. Let them see your graceful moves
The battery grip could be useful for those who need to shoot lots of social media content in vertical format. That being said it wouldn’t work well ergonomically if you need to connect lots of accessories.
Can you do lens reviews, or a separate camera unboxing channel? Really like this style of video
I would love to see your opinion on the ZCam E2 M4 as it is in a similar price range as the Black Magic cameras!
Love this camera unboxings you are doing for us ;)
cinema cam... you have to rig it as such, , also none of those other cams will give you 12 bit raw internal so that's a plus.
why are they making a motion camera more and more DSLR-shaped??
I like these vids where brandon gets to nerd out over camera specs.
i want one of those Blackmagic expensive cameras so bad!
I recommend Titan Ridge (!) Thunderbolt 3 NVMe enclosures as an external USB-C SSD solution to record to. These can fallback to USB 3.0 5 Gbit/s the camera can use and afterwards you can attach it to a computer with Thunderbolt 3 to get full 32 Gbit/s speeds to transfer the files or directly edit off of them.
(Have a PCC6k)
Less than 20 seconds in and Brandon has already shown he's a rightful LMG employee (0:14)
2 minutes later (2:08) "Notice how the original Pocket is a lot easier to get the sensor messed up with." Camera professional at work ;3
The Sigma fp is the spiritual successor of the pocket idea.
There is a market for the p6kpro but it's not the most people. It will be people that come from DSLR which is a little odd.
It's a Sony sensor for the p4k and p6k, unlike the Ursa line or original cinema/pocket camera which were Fairchild custom developments that BMD had an exclusivity contract with for a while. The 80MP sensor is unknown as I doubt BMD has their own fab.
Clunky AF - but the output is beautiful, LMG going Blackmagic has generally been a treat for the eyes
"Fits perfectly in my pocket!" - Andre the Giant, probably
Linus could fit the handheld gaming PC in his pocket. Brandon should be able to fit a DSLR.
Honestly kind of want to grab one of these to replace my Canon GX10 (the body retails for the same price that this whole-ass camcorder retailed for in 2017 so, like, it's entirely doable).
I would love to see an in depth breakdown of the shooting rigs!
But as a first timer should i just go with the 4K, or a combo like photo and film camera
Man..what camera was used to film this? looks amazing