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Can You Trust NileRed?

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ก.ย. 2023
  • This video is just for fun to see if I can recreate his experiments. *I did generalize the (optimal) meaning of peer review, often it is not necessarily reproduced (replicated). Unless the paper is purely calculations etc like we more often see in physics. A lot of papers are not reproducible even if they are peer reviewed, which is why replication is the ultimate test of truth for an experimental procedure. Even with non-identical condition, since many steps can be done slightly differently even though in essence the chemistry is the same. We sometimes see this with checkers from OrgSyn who will slightly modify the procedure if they found something better.
    Videos followed
    Chromyl chloride: • Making my favorite liq...
    Benzaldehyde: • Turning paint thinner ...
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  • @fatman9644
    @fatman9644 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9547

    Now we need a third chemistry youtuber to see, whether we can trust Chemiolis

    • @skyethebi
      @skyethebi 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +280

      That Chemist sort of did that

    • @craigstephenson7676
      @craigstephenson7676 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +620

      @@skyethebinow we need NileRed to see whether we can trust That Chemist

    • @skyethebi
      @skyethebi 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@craigstephenson7676 I think NileRed should see whether we can trust Sir Humphry Davy. Check to make sure that strontium and potassium really exist.

    • @JaredBrewerAerospace
      @JaredBrewerAerospace 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +90

      I vote that we have NurdRage moderate all of this!

    • @serenitybysaf
      @serenitybysaf 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      this aged well

  • @vsGoliath96
    @vsGoliath96 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4104

    Honestly, the point where Nile tried to make cherry flavoring and accidentally created a war crime was one of *the* chemistry moments of all time.

    • @devoosdude9809
      @devoosdude9809 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +269

      He is Canadian so it’s kinda expected

    • @itsTyrion
      @itsTyrion 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      He what?

    • @vsGoliath96
      @vsGoliath96 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +590

      @@itsTyrion He uh... he miscalculated some things on his recent video where he tried to turn paint thinner into cherry soda flavoring and accidentally created a gas that is banned by the Geneva Convention because it was used as a dispersion weapon during WWI.

    • @omgdodogamer4759
      @omgdodogamer4759 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +123

      @@itsTyrion he made mustard gas or something

    • @vaeger2947
      @vaeger2947 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +101

      If you take in to account his heritage it’s even funnier

  • @walli6388
    @walli6388 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6822

    Better Question: Can we trust NileGreen?

    • @GAFUKIS
      @GAFUKIS 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +79

      True

    • @informalchipmunk5775
      @informalchipmunk5775 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +133

      You can

    • @MaC_MoNeY415
      @MaC_MoNeY415 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +135

      Can we trust Nile Blue?

    • @staskielkowski2797
      @staskielkowski2797 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      Phsss its mister now

    • @xenajin6827
      @xenajin6827 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      I'll do you even better: who's NileGreen

  • @Wielorybkek
    @Wielorybkek 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2518

    in chemistry we don't copy video ideas, we REPRODUCE them

    • @Chico_Julio
      @Chico_Julio 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

      In all fields of science is done. And is a CRUCIAL step to theory develelopment, as a validation process.

    • @Wielorybkek
      @Wielorybkek 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +77

      @@Chico_Julio true, it just looks funny from the content creation perspective :p

    • @gizmothepiefaceman3062
      @gizmothepiefaceman3062 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@Wielorybkekonly kinda. While in creation you typically want to do what’s popular, and will get you more sales. In chemistry it’s more about what get you results

    • @lynianore7891
      @lynianore7891 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      And then we use clickbait titles

    • @trustmeimabiochemist3929
      @trustmeimabiochemist3929 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      peer review

  • @mlv3999
    @mlv3999 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3314

    “As a creator, I understand why he left out the yield. As a chemist, fuck you.” 😂

    • @129140163
      @129140163 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +145

      12:35 😂

    • @TheBearInTheChair
      @TheBearInTheChair 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +136

      Science and Medicine, one of the few places left in Academia where they throw hands😂

    • @TheBearInTheChair
      @TheBearInTheChair 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@129140163You are a gentleman and a scholar.

    • @Atetrigrams
      @Atetrigrams 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

      That made me laugh because everything else was so subtle or just a bit backhanded😭

    • @isaarunarom7830
      @isaarunarom7830 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      came to the comments to check for this before i wrote it myself, not dessapointed to see it as the 5th comment listed.

  • @blastron
    @blastron 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5356

    off-handedly describing the chromyl chloride cleanup as "I then cleaned it all with water" when NileRed has an entire video documenting his own disastrous cleanup is just a little bit cruel

    • @Simlatio
      @Simlatio 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nontrashfire2 ...Stupid...guy! I SAID PLUUUUHHHH!

    • @Truth-And-Freedom
      @Truth-And-Freedom 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But nile is a creepy little pee drinker

    • @Truth-And-Freedom
      @Truth-And-Freedom 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@nontrashfire2shush with your childish nonsense dear.
      You don't get to pick what other people call you ......

    • @marcellvarga410
      @marcellvarga410 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      my bad dude, it wont happen again man@@nontrashfire2

    • @craigstephenson7676
      @craigstephenson7676 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nontrashfire2 assume deez nuts

  • @hukaman88
    @hukaman88 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2279

    I don't trust him to bake cookies thats for sure

    • @GigsVT
      @GigsVT 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

      that was the duumbest waste of money. he's really gone downhill. money made him dumb

    • @error-4518
      @error-4518 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +207

      @@GigsVT I bet he earned the money back tenfold, so not really waste of money in that sense lol. But yea money makes creators less creative overall I think.

    • @GigsVT
      @GigsVT 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@error-4518 sure but that's part of the problem. If he can get revenue and patron for doing dumb stuff why would he even bother doing chemistry.

    • @maximianocoelho4496
      @maximianocoelho4496 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      Its like a new mr. beast, he know what the platform wants, not what chem enthusiast appreciate. I wont deny that he started the chemistry movement in youtube, him and fire&explosions, but I no longer what his stupid videos, I mean, where is the use in cola made from gloves? I really miss when he worked in his parents garage, those videos helped me a lot in college lab (specially the caffeine extraction). Its an equipment for each video and it isnt used anymore. I see him releasing a video in after months, I wonder how the patreons feel about that.

    • @oohshiny8713
      @oohshiny8713 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +106

      Ann Reardon had a look at that, big issues were (1) the chocolate Nile used was 100% cocoa (most commercial dark chocolate is 80% cocoa, 20% sugar); and (2) the flour he used was "hard red spring wheat" - which is quite bitter - but also the flour was packaged in 2013. Using stale bitter flour and no sugar in the chocolate - there was nothing wrong with the recipe itself - the choice of ingredients is what killed it.

  • @seyd5912
    @seyd5912 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1127

    Name a more iconic duo than Chemiolis and the short-path Vacuum destillatilation apparatus .
    I'll wait.

    • @chuckcrunch1
      @chuckcrunch1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +131

      explosions and fire and plastic cups

    • @kaboom4679
      @kaboom4679 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

      ChemicalForce and the stuff of our collective nightmares .

    • @ravencrovax
      @ravencrovax 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      ​@@kaboom4679i was going to say ChemicalForce and way too many unnecessarily long slow motion shots.

    • @jerrysanchez5453
      @jerrysanchez5453 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

      Extractions and ire and tar

    • @mbainrot
      @mbainrot 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jerrysanchez5453 Explosions and Fire AND Extractions and Ire and Orange Chemistry

  • @gersonrendon2188
    @gersonrendon2188 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +996

    Nile Red is just great. He's huge because he is honest and humble and incredibly committed to improving the quality and variety of his content. You may complain that his videos are not that instructional but then again he's pretty much the only person in the world who can practice chemistry at that level just for fun. I think we should celebrate we live in a period of time in which that is possible.

    • @zpbeats3938
      @zpbeats3938 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Preach bro 🤙

    • @kIngshufle
      @kIngshufle 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

      De tantos idiomas decidiste hablar factos

    • @thehipsterhamster1929
      @thehipsterhamster1929 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Factos, jajaja el espanglish xd

    • @loll0l114
      @loll0l114 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Upvote

    • @lisaisa
      @lisaisa 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      right because even if he gave us a step by step i’d probably end up killing myself LOL.. i am not a chemist

  • @AquibMohammedAyman
    @AquibMohammedAyman 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +731

    Well I do not trust him with my life, but otherwise I think he is okay

    • @EvanBoyar
      @EvanBoyar 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      I'd trust more people with my life than I would trust to not finish my fries.

    • @AquibMohammedAyman
      @AquibMohammedAyman 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@EvanBoyar but can you trust a person with your life who DOES NOT finish his/her fries?

    • @saba-rr8dw
      @saba-rr8dw 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@AquibMohammedAymanyes, because those leftover fries are becoming mine.

    • @malcolmhein1858
      @malcolmhein1858 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I wouldn't trust him with my wife, either.

  • @wefyb2
    @wefyb2 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1240

    With hindsight, things look messier than they ought to. It is a lot easier to break down a process and make improvements when you have a well edited, 30 minute video to follow to recreate and improve a synthesis. Creators like Nigel are a brilliant resource for providing followable, reproducible processes that are extremely atypical. You can find a million videos of people making "typical" synthesis, but as far as I know, nearly nothing that Nigel has done on his channel is provided elsewhere at any where near the same level of clarity.
    His videos on Aerogel and ferrofluid are quite literally one-of-a-kind public resources.

    • @jsalsman
      @jsalsman 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +175

      It kind of makes you wonder why professional academic chemists don't typically produce video content to go with their synthesis and analysis papers.

    • @ExarchGaming
      @ExarchGaming 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +76

      if nile has a problem, it's laziness. Not doing things properly because he doesn't feel like it. which is totally fine, but it does harm the educational purity of what he's doing. Sometimes I feel like he's lost his spark to create the content, as taking like 8 months to do a single set of reactions is wild. There are chemtubers that make weekly or at least monthly content doing the exact same thing that nile does.
      Thought Emporium has the same kind of problem, but i think he's a content creator second and a scientist first. at least as far as i'm aware.
      Nile happens to be the most entertaining, I feel though, E&F is as well, but he's even lazier than nile is, and he could really really do with some upgraded videography.

    • @dalfifran7572
      @dalfifran7572 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +175

      Not doing things properly when the guy using safety equipment and procedure rivaling many uni lab and far outstrip many youtube home chemist is a wild claim.
      As for taking months for project, i do agree it's slow, not sure about it's "lazy" since we don't know how many multiple project he have, what equipment/resource he need and wait, etc... @@ExarchGaming

    • @drewbabe
      @drewbabe 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +117

      @@ExarchGaming fwiw, not necessarily agreeing or disagreeing with you, but he's mentioned in his videos that his content creation pipeline has lots of things happening in parallel, and he often tries to make a video on something, fails, and scraps it. That's pretty common for any content creator who does stuff that requires lots of effort and/or time to make. With that said, most creators who do this have a period where they release stuff infrequently as their pipeline expands, but eventually they kind of "catch up" and are able to put out content regularly, it'll just be content that has been in the works for several months at a minimum. He's been like this for a while, so I can only guess that there are more reasons to it than simply just not having hit a good stride yet. Could be lack of ideas that are working out, lack of motivation or some other kind of burnout, over-focus on his side channels and tiktok/youtube shorts, or any number of other reasons. Only he and the people he's close to really know

    • @theexchipmunk
      @theexchipmunk 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +119

      @@ExarchGaming You are making one really big assumption. That his video are educational in the first place. They really are not, they are generally entertainment. Like how most historical sewing videos are also no intruction, but showing a process thats interesting to some, but mostly with the goal of entertaining and showing what you can do.

  • @Arcanist_Gaming
    @Arcanist_Gaming 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +763

    To be fair, he's not doing things to make effective processes, he's just kind of shitposting lmao (and he usually _does_ mention his yields, including those of less than satisfactory runs)

    • @Crawfishness
      @Crawfishness 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +168

      His videos are largely for shits and giggles, and entertainment. If he was trying to make legitimate tutorial/educational videos, I trust he'd be more professional.

    • @izzydo3494
      @izzydo3494 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Especially when half his videos are of him dropping things on the floor

    • @Arcanist_Gaming
      @Arcanist_Gaming 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@izzydo3494 He _does_ love to drop things on* the floor lmao. Who doesn't, though?

    • @chidori0117
      @chidori0117 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@RoastCDuck Do you mean to say there was no established synthesis fpr Benzaldehyde so he had to create one? In which case no there are multiple and he did not have to create one ... if you are talking about another vid why would this be relevant here?

    • @samuestos6908
      @samuestos6908 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      "I wasn't even trying"
      To be fair, he deserves to not be appreciated by the chemistry community.
      To receive disdain from thorough chemists that don't have the attention he has.
      Nilered is a wonderful magnet to transform normies into amateur chemists.
      I love him for that reason.

  • @AKATenn
    @AKATenn 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +567

    Nile red wouldn't want you to trust him, he'd want you to look at the source material, and others work too, same as he did.

    • @zandaroos553
      @zandaroos553 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

      I don’t think Nile trusts himself let’s be real here

    • @AKATenn
      @AKATenn 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@zandaroos553 True, how many scientist got themselves mamed, irradiated, killed tho... seems to be a risk they all take... i think tho, nobody should try this stuff unless they have the right equipment and know how to use it all, and actually know how to do the math... it's chemistry, not alchemy...

    • @royk7712
      @royk7712 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@zandaroos553 that's why he always drop and smash a lot of things, he's so frustrated by the reaction so he doesnt even trust himself

  • @ContemporaryAlchemist
    @ContemporaryAlchemist 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +323

    "...requires advanced knowledge of chemistry acquired through many years of suffering" hit WAY too close to home for me. Ow.

  • @prdprdprdprdprdel
    @prdprdprdprdprdel 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +676

    "As a chemist, fuck you" came so far out of the left field.. Great one..

    • @129140163
      @129140163 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      12:38 Those little things are what makes these videos so entertaining! 😂

    • @thecountrychemist2561
      @thecountrychemist2561 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      That got me laughing. Same though. I need to know

  • @TK-en2hq
    @TK-en2hq 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +940

    "trust is mostly irrelevant to science"
    Spoken like a man who has never blindly replicated a lab experiment from the 70's. Trust is like, 90% of not dying during experimental replication.

    • @draggy76
      @draggy76 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      by how much shit he has to look up and how little he most likely knows about science, i'd say you hit the nail on the head there.

    • @IAOIceland1984
      @IAOIceland1984 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +165

      ​@@draggy76​ do you think science is just experimenting wildly using your intuition? Just look at a scientific paper mate, we back up each and every sentence with a paper justifying the information in the sentence. You should not trust your memory in science, look shit up and confirm what process is best for each step of a reaction as well as possible reaction paths.

    • @UrbanJackJr
      @UrbanJackJr 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@IAOIceland1984yet there are hundreds of unreproducible papers out there

    • @mozarteanchaos
      @mozarteanchaos 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +64

      @@draggy76 sorry, do you think scientists actually just hold all information relevant to their field in their heads at all times or something? they're people, not computers.

    • @FullThrottleRacing535
      @FullThrottleRacing535 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@draggy76 Stupid reply to be honest.

  • @nickpekor4450
    @nickpekor4450 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +815

    First Explosions&Fire and now NileRed. Who's the next target for Chemiolis to start chemistry beef with?

    • @Yiiino
      @Yiiino 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

      Chemdelic? 🤔

    • @quint3ssent1a
      @quint3ssent1a 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +130

      Prussian Blue. I bet Chemiolis will have a cardiac arrest once he catches a whiff of what this mad lad is cooking.

    • @T3sl4
      @T3sl4 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Heck with that, where's Greeniolis at??

    • @foxyfoxington2651
      @foxyfoxington2651 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      Chemiolis takes down himself in a long, weird, recursive beef that loops until it eventually collapses in on itself and forms a black hole from which no views or likes or comments can escape. Make it happen!

    • @BillAnt
      @BillAnt 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I trust Chemiolis more than the other guys, this dude is good... really good.

  • @skyethebi
    @skyethebi 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +288

    That Chemist: “Can we trust Chemiolis?”
    Chemiolis: “Can we trust NileRed?”
    NileRed: “Can we trust Sir Humphry Davy?”

  • @vincenzo5816
    @vincenzo5816 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +211

    >Want to fix errors of others
    >Handles dangerous chems with exposed arms

    • @abnorc8798
      @abnorc8798 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +64

      Safety violations increase engagement via the comment section, which is far more important.

    • @aiexzs
      @aiexzs 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@abnorc8798 i'm so so so sure you're thinking too far into it

    • @nathanlamaire
      @nathanlamaire 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@abnorc8798💀

    • @abhaybhatt4286
      @abhaybhatt4286 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It balances out with NileRed pouring the most dangerous shit without a funnel

  • @FriedEgg101
    @FriedEgg101 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +129

    To be fair to NileRed, he kind of makes a thing about not being that scrupulous with his method; like a soft-core edgyness. And I guess that's part of the appeal? But he appears to freely admit to cock ups, and from someone with just chemistry a-level (me) he seems to explain the chemistry well too. I see no reason not to trust him, at the level that I need to trust him. This video was also interesting though. Can't complain at more chemistry content.

    • @ashrowan2143
      @ashrowan2143 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Yeah I definitely don't have a high enough understanding of Chem to reproduce any of his tests myself but from the stuff I do know his science is solid he screws around and uses tools he doesn't need to for the fun of things so I trust that he's creating what he says he is to the level I need to which is fun science man who's making things for the hell of it

  • @isocle
    @isocle 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +292

    The clickbait we all deserve

  • @outcastatsabre
    @outcastatsabre 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +191

    But why wouldn't you taste test something prepared with carbon tet and hexavalent chromium??😮

    • @EddieTheH
      @EddieTheH 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +95

      Also known as "Detroit mineral water" 😁

    • @foxyfoxington2651
      @foxyfoxington2651 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      That's what always got me about the original video: Making soda using the most carcinogenic and toxic route humanly possible and then drinking it for views.

    • @EddieTheH
      @EddieTheH 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      @@foxyfoxington2651 Confidence in the chemistry.

    • @justsomeguy5628
      @justsomeguy5628 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

      Exactly. Any imperfections just add unique flavor that you will almost certainly remember for the rest of your life.

    • @TS-jm7jm
      @TS-jm7jm 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      ​@@justsomeguy5628lol, for however long that ends up being

  • @hotketchup100
    @hotketchup100 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +204

    Today, I had my first analytic chemistry lab. It was only orientation, and going over sylabus, but I still managed to have a look around the (really old, like waaaaay too old) lab, and I saw a 2L bottle full of chromyl chloride (full), and as I leaned in, to read the label (wanted to know the year, and it was 1987), the teacher just came over to me, and just told me to keep away from that cabinet, as it was actually filled with a lot of other solutions, including some dichromates, and other. Let's just say, I'll be extra careful, not to knock anything over, as I will be working pretty close to it.
    The best part is, that the cabinet isn't even locked. And neither are the labs (why? I have no idea).

    • @urazon9465
      @urazon9465 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      In my city there is a research institute which is the merge of several smaller labs. When they moved in their new, big and fancy lab, they lost some uranium rocks like ten years ago, nobody knows where those are to this day.

    • @xenajin6827
      @xenajin6827 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Same in my college too😂. They haven't locked the cabinets and have some starting products to make explosives like trinitrotoluene💀

    • @moonik665
      @moonik665 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

      The reason it's not locked is because it can defend itself.

    • @hendraibaraki
      @hendraibaraki 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Maybe for safety reason... If for any reason.. any of that chemical storage exploded.. fall or anything.. it will be easy to evacuate out of the lab.. instead locked in

    • @dangoldbach6570
      @dangoldbach6570 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      I was installing a fume hood in a lab and the ancient cabinet next to me had to move over. I opened the door and find a 1kg. Bottle of potassium cyanide smiling at me. Gently closed door, Backed out of room.

  • @cypherusuh
    @cypherusuh 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +78

    He's chemist with high-grade equipment and safety measurement. But we don't watch his channel for just science, but because he's entertaining us with actual science.
    It's called Edutainment, not online class.

    • @Yahya98
      @Yahya98 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Exactly. Well said. We don't watch his channel for science, but to fall asleep 😂

    • @platty9237
      @platty9237 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think that’s implied. This seems more like a challenge to see if the experiment is somewhat reproducible.

  • @Shorty50
    @Shorty50 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

    Nile red has a very advanced home lab and I think sometimes he over does very simple steps in procedures which more than likely impacts his yields :)

    • @gavincregan7892
      @gavincregan7892 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I think this exact thing whenever he touches anything that resembles a tool.

    • @ExarchGaming
      @ExarchGaming 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      he's lazy, that's all. that's why his yields get fubared. it's part of his charm, same with Explosions and Fire.

    • @JaredBrewerAerospace
      @JaredBrewerAerospace 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Have you seen his new lab? He offhandedly has a tube furnace and an NMR that he's used once. It's far from a home lab.

    • @JaredBrewerAerospace
      @JaredBrewerAerospace 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@ExarchGaming I feel that Nile tries hard to be a real chemist. E&F is a super smart dude and does it for fun, which is where I find the entertainment value.

    • @thejohnkaufman
      @thejohnkaufman 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      ​@@JaredBrewerAerospaceE&F is also technically a physicist, which makes his chemistry shitposting in a shed even funnier

  • @carterpochynok4874
    @carterpochynok4874 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Its really cool that you chem TH-camrs seem to be teaming up to test each other's methods and demonstrate peer-review to your audience in the form of entertainment. Keep it up!

  • @barfbot
    @barfbot 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +82

    just seeing two chemist (amateur or otherwise) doing the same procedures can be very enlightening when it comes to lab techniques

  • @Dr_Mario2007
    @Dr_Mario2007 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +145

    I just generally like watching NileRed, as well as the other chemists including Chemiolis as well, as I like to see how they put chemicals together to make something, including my favorite, fluorescent chemistry.

    • @Vile_Entity_3545
      @Vile_Entity_3545 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      He makes very entertaining videos.

    • @mookinbabysealfurmittens
      @mookinbabysealfurmittens 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You might like ChemicalForce (lots of glowing, sparks, etc. & nice shots) and StyroPyro (more into lasers & engineering but is a chemist proper, and lots of glow!)

    • @Vile_Entity_3545
      @Vile_Entity_3545 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@mookinbabysealfurmittens He makes the best. That video nearly a year or so ago that looked like a mini nuke was the bees knees.

    • @mookinbabysealfurmittens
      @mookinbabysealfurmittens 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Vile_Entity_3545 I like Styropyro's little squirrel pal. And his newest full video (not short) is pretty impressive. There's more than one mushroom cloud!

    • @Isissa125
      @Isissa125 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      im a tar chemistry man myself

  • @NickGarcia1519
    @NickGarcia1519 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Peer review and reproduction are two very different and very important processes in science. Peer review is when experts read and critique articles before they are published. Reproduction is when other labs try to reproduce the same results, like with lk99

  • @meatmobile
    @meatmobile 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    'no drama', clearly made to start drama

  • @skotdude
    @skotdude 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    You forgot the part where he actually makes his videos entertaining.

  • @phobos1963
    @phobos1963 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Finally some drama in the youtube chemistry community (don't touch prussian blue you will end up finding a pipe bomb in your next delivery)

  • @chinjunsi7752
    @chinjunsi7752 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    You are asking can we trust nilered but I'm now asking can we trust YOU?!?

  • @MegaBrokenstar
    @MegaBrokenstar 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    The quality of science on TH-cam is increasing constantly and I’m loving it. Peer review, reproduction, formal scientific disputes, it’s amazing. A whole new venue for scientific research, funded by the curiosity of viewers rather than the potential for industrial profit.

    • @birblover6423
      @birblover6423 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Im loving it honestly, never did i think i would see someone peer review nile red and its been 2 times now! Both incredibly done and educational as well :)

  • @dahat1992
    @dahat1992 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    So, "amateur chemist in their 20s is inefficient and make mistakes" is somehow news now?

    • @TheSectric
      @TheSectric 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I like how he acts like Nile doesn't also constantly mention his method was inefficient. Like I swear one of his most said phrases in his videos is "there is probably a way better way to do this but here's what I did"

  • @Peter_Lustik
    @Peter_Lustik 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Man, you should really be a bit more careful when distilling ether. The Setup at 11:03 screams for a fire. I've heard of many cases where ether fumes ignited on a hot plate, its really not fun. Make sure to use a roundbottom next time. D:

    • @MichaelLapore-lk9jz
      @MichaelLapore-lk9jz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      D-i-stilling! Not destilling!

    • @Peter_Lustik
      @Peter_Lustik 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MichaelLapore-lk9jz fixed!

  • @theIargedude
    @theIargedude 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    chemiolis once again proving that he's an attack chemist

  • @logancontracier7125
    @logancontracier7125 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    I think that’s what’s crazy to me about chemistry is that there is so many different ways to try to get the same product but with varying results

  • @ipiqqyfpv
    @ipiqqyfpv 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    This would be really cool as a video series

  • @sgt-Badger
    @sgt-Badger 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Two of the best Chemistry TH-camrs, I want them to colab and make met-.

    • @Crawfishness
      @Crawfishness 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Methyl anthranilate!

  • @pzyko21
    @pzyko21 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I am really curious how this channel will do in a year or two, i really like it, short, info packed, and from the looks pro safety chemistry videos. i dont understand half the things but your words make me partly understand it funny liquid man

  • @theprogrammer32
    @theprogrammer32 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    "As a creator, I understand... As a chemist, fuck you."
    literally just sums up a lot of his content tbh

    • @129140163
      @129140163 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      12:35

  • @kaiying74
    @kaiying74 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'm a Computer Scientist with bad High School chemistry, I have no idea what either you or Nile are talking about. I still watch fascinated at you guys doing what looks like magic to me.

  • @mopippenger7373
    @mopippenger7373 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    First Extractions and Ire, now NileRed... who's gonna get their villain origin story next?

  • @defenestrated23
    @defenestrated23 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    "In this video, I dunk on Nigel's chemical techniques and get better yields. "

  • @thaddeusk
    @thaddeusk 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I trust him enough that I don't need to watch this video.

  • @daltonsoutherland8836
    @daltonsoutherland8836 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    The way he just casually talks about using chromyl chloride and carbon tetrachloride otherwise known as the cancerous superduo 😂

  • @dzhangarbadmaev1057
    @dzhangarbadmaev1057 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Great idea, reproducibility is important

  • @magiclegume
    @magiclegume 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Sure NileRed had a lot of screwups and this video does seem like he’s better and cleaner but let’s remember that this is a second attempt. As all things in experimentation goes, the 1st attempt usually gets most of the erroneous paths. Ergo, the 2nd has a much more straightforward way of getting it right, and in a cleaner way too.

  • @nicolazamprotta492
    @nicolazamprotta492 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    10:12 From my experience is advice that acqueous phase(bottom layer) is separated using the faucet instead the organic phase(top layer) using the upper part of the separatory funnel. Since most of the time the product of interest it's in the organic phase using this method you prevent contamination with what's in the acqeous phase

  • @JustAPakistaniGamer
    @JustAPakistaniGamer 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    man what a title... as a marketer and an SEO specialist... gotta give you credits for good homework and research... !!!! know that your genius is appreciated... content is also quality !! so double thumbs up on that....
    Don't stop keep it up... 1 million subs await... :)
    Good luck

  • @caldilworth1344
    @caldilworth1344 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I love this idea and hope you keep testing our NileRed's syntheses!

  • @giacom312
    @giacom312 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    That chromyl chloride mechanism hurt my organic chemist's eyes and soul

  • @corpsepenis3088
    @corpsepenis3088 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +158

    Chemiolis is every other chemistry youtubers dad who fixes all their errors lol

    • @alexpotts6520
      @alexpotts6520 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      New Chemiolis bio just dropped.

    • @BillAnt
      @BillAnt 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Chemiolis: "Hold my beaker, this is how it's done correctly!" haha

    • @vitamin9165
      @vitamin9165 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      the shade is so funny but also as an amature its ueful to see the reasoning behind things and all the little details that matter.

    • @damngood8476
      @damngood8476 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Well to be fair you have to do the mistakes first to improve on them so kudos to both :) science is about refining and progression

    • @vitamin9165
      @vitamin9165 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@damngood8476 Yup I agree Nile's videos are great

  • @ananteshesha5788
    @ananteshesha5788 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I know you are dutch Chemiolis you cant hide your dutch accent from a fellow dutchman

  • @pedroalexandredillemburg3751
    @pedroalexandredillemburg3751 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Now I wanna see if you can trust Nile green

  • @Salamandra40k
    @Salamandra40k 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    A big explanation for how and why Nile seems to have his videos always be chaotic is just...how he is. Go watch him try to make anything that isnt necessarily chemistry- the "making my own chocolate" and "making a bismuth knife" videos are great examples of how you can see he reacts to things normally...as in, he really has no idea what hes doing, and just makes guesses, which usually turn out sliiiightly wrong, but mostly right. Not to say he isnt smart, at all, I'm simply saying he has no patience and can be disorganized

  • @yeoldebaccyfarm3081
    @yeoldebaccyfarm3081 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    sensory analysis. my favorite analytical method.

  • @ArysenNoName
    @ArysenNoName 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You just opend a paradox cause… how can I trust you?

  • @tanvach
    @tanvach 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    13:45 I don't know why, but seeing that tiny stir bar spin make me chuckle

  • @maxxuel9181
    @maxxuel9181 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    But what makes you think that we can trust you? 🤨

  • @Tomnickles
    @Tomnickles 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Since I don't watch TH-cam to reproduce the video's I see, sure we can trust him.

  • @f0rtuzer0
    @f0rtuzer0 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Funny because I literally just watched a video by `That Chemist`titled `Can we trust Chemiolis?`... lol. Who guards the guards, and all that.

    • @Anumera
      @Anumera 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Was looking for this because the same happened to me. Can't wait for the 4th in the series, since is turtles all the way down.

  • @treanttrooper6349
    @treanttrooper6349 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    " as a content creator, i understand leaving out yueld, as a Chemist, fuck you" broo that had me CRYING 😂😂

  • @fire-ballmc9741
    @fire-ballmc9741 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    This is genius! Make videos in a very similar way to nilered a channel who uploads like 3 times a year and then make a video with a clickbait title about him that would make nilered viewers curious so you get allot of his audience and because of the similar style allot will probably stay!
    edit: This is not meant to sound negative.

  • @LouiesLog
    @LouiesLog 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    He's one of the few people I would instantly trust just from personality. I know you shouldn't but he is not purposely misleading, I think he has a more enjoyable way of doing things rather that doing everything for perfection. I guess it's a good way to get views to critique a bigger TH-camr.

  • @fmdj
    @fmdj 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    This is probably a tough question to answer but I keep asking it to myself (not a chemist): to what extent do we understand what goes on in a chemical reaction? like, say I wanna synthesise a given compound: is there in general a finite set of rules I can look up and use to eventually deduce a synthesis procedure, or will there be a lot of reaction-specific knowledge that requires a lot of trial and error?

    • @JossCard42
      @JossCard42 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      As I (another non-chemist) understand it, we have a pretty good idea of what's going on inside a given chemical reaction, provided we know all the materials involved. Most of early chemistry revolved around A lot of chemistry projects are 80% figuring out what is going to happen on paper long before you start adding chemicals in beakers.
      If you're interested, the Crash Course channel on TH-cam has a series on chemistry that has helped me get a better understanding of what's actually happening inside those flasks and also briefly covers the big discoveries that led to our current understanding of chemistry.

    • @MDNQ-ud1ty
      @MDNQ-ud1ty 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ZERO. you have zero understanding of what is going on. What you learn is not what, how, or why BUT *when*. 99% of so called scientists completely fail at having a clue what they are doing and it makes them dangerous. Like a kid that has a gun and thinks he's a gun expert or a government that has nukes and thinks they are gods gift to humanity.
      All science is is models of reality(*MODELS*). Science works by making those models approximate reality until they no longer work to achieve new results(which is why science is stagnating now). Statistics/repeatability is what makes things work and provides the answers for the *when*. E.g., *When* I do X and Y and then Z I get Q. All science is is statistics applied to logic for approximate the cause and effects of temporal coherency. It works quite well because the universe is relatively stable currently.

    • @EddieTheH
      @EddieTheH 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      As with most science, it was all trial and error in the early days, when enough is discovered by trial and error for patterns to emerge, the picture gains more and more resolution, which gives us more data to make more accurate predictions. Now we have some pretty decent software to model reactions based on previously gathered data, which is more or less accurate. We can pick and choose chemical building blocks with various functional groups and how they behave (how to assemble and disassemble them), these narrow down the possible reactions to the point where organic synthesis is almost akin to Lego, only putting the blocks together isn't quite as simple. When it gets to the actual practical application, reactions are mostly predictable now, so we return to the trial and error to fine tune the synthesis. Tweaking variables one at a time until we get consistent, repeatable results.
      Chemistry involves a *lot* of repetition.
      Chemistry involves a *lot* of repetition.
      Chemistry involves a *lot* of repetition.
      😁

    • @fmdj
      @fmdj 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      very helpful thank you both!

    • @MDNQ-ud1ty
      @MDNQ-ud1ty 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fmdj both doesn't include me since there are 3 replies in the last hour. I'm likely shadow banned, can you verify?

  • @humanbean3
    @humanbean3 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    i should start a chemistry channel and just mix random liquids together and just pretend to produce some chocolate or maybe gummy bears or something

    • @twosquids
      @twosquids 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You have a promising tiktok career

  • @Leoo___
    @Leoo___ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Next video: NileRed: can we trust Chemiolis?

    • @cooldude7301
      @cooldude7301 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nobody cares what Nile red thinks. He sucks

    • @alexpotts6520
      @alexpotts6520 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Next NileRed video: turning Chemiolis into strawberry milkshake

  • @Digital.Dictator
    @Digital.Dictator 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Someone quickly inform NileRed let's get this youtube drama started.

    • @silksongoutyet
      @silksongoutyet 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      can't wait for the diss tracks

  • @BroversXproductions
    @BroversXproductions 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Waiwaitwait we're doing chemtube drama now?

  • @madoba8717
    @madoba8717 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    As a chemical engineer, I leave it up to the chemists

  • @ClearlyJoking
    @ClearlyJoking 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    You can definitely trust him to make something stinky

  • @zenithparsec
    @zenithparsec 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This is a chemistry diss-track.

  • @TheBackyardChemist
    @TheBackyardChemist 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I usually dont bitch about atom efficiency, but this Étard reaction is something truly horrendous. You want to oxidize something, but your oxidant remains still mostly oxidized in the Étard complex, so you have to add a bunch of reductant to workup your oxidation reaction...
    What an awfully wasteful reaction.

  • @topsunnn
    @topsunnn 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love NileRed. Can't wait for his uploads

  • @awli8861
    @awli8861 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    but can we trust you?

  • @electronium6378
    @electronium6378 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    i trust nilegreen

  • @farmvilleawesome
    @farmvilleawesome 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i really appreciate chemiolis showing the mechanisms for this. with me taking my first orgo semester this year, its nice to be able to get used to them out of class!

  • @simonomisimonomis
    @simonomisimonomis 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i love how in the upcoming videos there was a video from that chemist about should i trust chemiolis

  • @m3m3sis
    @m3m3sis 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    I never took his videos as purely educational but playful and inspirational. I think people should take everything with a grain of salt if its not from an official governmental body and even then I'd hold a healthy amount of skepticism.

    • @shimmya
      @shimmya 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s fair to assume but it would be great if he added a disclaimer about that somewhere

  • @ommhatre3645
    @ommhatre3645 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The oxygen does not take a proton from the toluene before the double bond of the ring attacks the chromium its vice versa in my opinion cuz the oxygen isn't basic enough and the hydrogen isn't acidic enough to drive the reaction. So the double bond of the ring attacks the chromium first(which breaks a chromium oxygen bond simultaneously and an O- is formed) leading to formation of a carbocation which then pulls electrons from the carbon hydrogen bond making the hydrogen very acidic. It is then deprotonated by the O- forming the following intermediate product

  • @TonyDeBlark
    @TonyDeBlark 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    11:03
    If you gonna do this, you gonna have a very bad time. Vapors are very flammable and can easily ignite from the heat

  • @DeVoidLij
    @DeVoidLij 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Nilered should seriously publish a paper detailing every step he takes for his syntheses

  • @lebo1999
    @lebo1999 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    i love how youtube science has gone so far that (even if as a meme) we have youtubers peer reviewing youtubers
    20/10 meta content

  • @giupinkfairy
    @giupinkfairy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I wish I had a quarter of his equipment. Have you seen his Spectrophotometer?????? Not even my university has half of his equipment

  • @abhaybhatt4286
    @abhaybhatt4286 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I dont get why NileRed didnt just go with the halogenation --> substitution --> oxidation pathway, looks way safer and less random in terms of regiochemistry assuming he uses some protecting groups. I think he just wanted to use kewl blood juice lol

  • @nanakimurasaki
    @nanakimurasaki 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    You know. I am 100% for these playful jabs at Nilered. The subtle yet pronounced fuck you at the end was a chef kiss moment.

  • @sinecurve9999
    @sinecurve9999 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    12:43 Geeez dude! You're taking this waaay too personal.

  • @tweakerkid
    @tweakerkid 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nile Red conducted amazing science when he created Aerogel, a beautiful etherial looking substance.

  • @maniesh
    @maniesh 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's great to see other creators reproduce and improve upon popular experiments on youtube. Unlike other types of videos on youtube, I think people are more accepting of recreations when it's done with scientific experiments. Although the clickbait title on this video is not ideal, I understand that because of nature of this platform it is necessary in order to gain visibility.

  • @Manarinni
    @Manarinni 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    One thing I'd like to add is that Nile is very honest and straight forward in saying that he is learning, and he is very open when things don't go his way, and you got to give him that

  • @Zettymaster
    @Zettymaster 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    "wet it with some carbon tet" bro is just casually using the ozone destroyer 9000 for wetting filter paper

  • @lukenawrocki5042
    @lukenawrocki5042 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't even know what you were trying to make but just watched the whole thing so facinated

  • @sunsetappleton6080
    @sunsetappleton6080 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    was really expecting a saucy exposé, thumbnail game strong

  • @MeNanWazaHowitzer
    @MeNanWazaHowitzer 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Dude im a big fan of yours and niles content and i get that there’s different ways of doing things but why so hostile ? The guy has done well in popularising chemistry in a world of click bait circus prank shorts and pseudo science conspiracies. May be im over thinking it and you guys have a healthy YT relationship but this video come across like you are bitter and hostile towards nile imo. Still enjoyed it though

  • @kashjpm2272
    @kashjpm2272 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    i trust him as much as one can, he is to me what ozymandias was to the egyptians

  • @Aldertonartco
    @Aldertonartco 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Where did you get your mantle/? Looks so sturdy - I always think that when watching your vids….

  • @buckshott00
    @buckshott00 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    So you're saying a BSC from McGill is worthless 🤓 lol
    I love that you talked about, and placed such a high value on, reproducibility. It'd be cool if in the future when you discuss peer review and improved methods, if you could discuss better means and methods available to the "home chemist" and "amateur chemist". Nigel's methods aren't great but he shows his mistakes and flaws too. Too often Chemistry seems inaccessible because "how dare the unwashed masses attempt to something left to their betters". I think a lot knowledgeable people unknowingly come of as condescending or they do it knowingly under the guise of "safety". Nigel has his faults but he does make Chemistry seem accessible. So as a Chemist, not the greatest, but as a "Science Communicator" working under the restraints of TH-cam he's doing pretty well.

  • @slushyboyexperte8749
    @slushyboyexperte8749 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I dont understand why he was using this complicated Method, when he just could do a Swern oxidation. Did the Swern oxidation by myself for Benzaldehyde and i worked perfectly.

    • @tomflanagan878
      @tomflanagan878 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Maybe he was concerned about sulfur-containing stuff contaminating his product

    • @TonyDeBlark
      @TonyDeBlark 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@tomflanagan878yeah, but Cr traces are very beneficial for health 😅

    • @Grak70
      @Grak70 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Some people just don’t want everything they own to smell like rank farts for months.

    • @durshurrikun150
      @durshurrikun150 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maybe TEMPO oxydation is better