This is the second interview in as many days that I’ve seen with Humza Yousaf. Once again the point is hammered home that Scotland has the far superior leader than England, for the second first minister in a row; and while I’ve literally lost count of how many prime ministers we’ve had in that same time, none match up to either Humza or Nicola Sturgeon in my book (including the probable-future-PM of Keir Starmer). Mark Drakeford in Wales seems like he’s been a decent chap (various interviews with him making that even clearer than just what you see of him in the news etc), and given Michelle O’Neill has been first minister in northern Ireland for all of 7 days it’s probably a bit early to say conclusively one way or the other… but England is very much trailing the pack here, and shaming us all!
@@MsJaytee1975 sure, and I rate both of them! As well as Jamie Driscoll, the mayor of North of Tyne, who I have a lot of time for (and have donated to his campaign, despite living nowhere near, as a Londoner!) But they’re not national leaders, are they? I love a metro mayor, but they don’t have as much power and authority as the leader of a full country or devolved government, so there’s still plenty more for England to do here!
What an absolute delight Humza Yousaf is. I wish that the UK national political scene could be debated in this tone; basic humanity, basic decency, honesty, candor and transparency. I'm a member of the Labour party, but if I was in Scotland, he'd be giving me serious reason to switch. Keir take note!
Humza Yousaf is a breath of fresh air compared to Sunak and Starmer. So tired of incompetence, corruption and divisiveness in Westminster. Great show as always Coco and Nish xXx
Suella Braverman. ACKKKKKK! We have some schmucks in office in Canada (our prime Minister, the head of the Conservatives, Premier of Ontario and Alberta)🇨🇦 but Suella scares me in a way that even Trump doesn't.
Honestly, Scottish politicians across the board are still quite human sounding, even the tories, well some of them. And I say that even when it comes to politicians I disagree with.
Humza feels like he comes from a different era of politics where respect for your opposition is given as people, and their policies are what are attacked. I do wish there been a few more questions about the internal issues inside the SNP in differences of opinions that were raised during the leader election. But Also I didn't want any of these question removed so I guess you just have to have him back.
As you say he seems to be from an era of politics we don't see as much of right now so I don't think you'd get much of an answer beyond a diplomatic "internal debate/differing opinions happens - the party chose the direction - respect to his opponents".
Nish getting in the joke about how a young boy would have a... strong right arm rather than working a tough job. With the First Minister, no less! You could hear how scandalous it was by Coco's panicked voice! 🤣
Of COURSE Brett Goldstein ♥️ follows PSUK 😁 Obviously that's not my only takeaway from this brilliant episode - the Humza Yousaf interview at last! - but that early mention of Brett out a huge smile on my face, and it's still there
I like Humza and I think he’s a decent First Minister, but he’s let down often by his cabinet, especially those on the centre right of the SNP. I voted no in the 2014 independence referendum and I currently have no idea how I would vote in another one. I would be more likely to vote yes if more in the SNP were like Humza and spoke out about injustice. Edit: I can’t believe he just said Kier Starmer rubber dingied him, he’s been in Dundee too long. 😂😂😂😂
no voters put Scotland in every bit the mess the rest of us said it would be in. I'd never admit that I voted no. The damage that it has done and continues to do is immeasurable.
Oh the dangers of political knowledge and understanding - how scary. Limited mentality doesn't say anything at all about ability. Learning is possible from birth to death. People should base their voting decisions on a thorough understanding of material conditions, not the ideas of random people online. Whatever your limited judgement of me is, it has absolutely no material bearing whatsoever on the outcome of anyone else's votes.
Suella Braverman has a Indo-African background. Indo-Africans historically came to Africa during the British Empire's time, with the English colonial power. At that time they served the British as butlers or as leaders on the plantations. That is why these people, the Indo-Africans, are also quite racist, especially towards Black Africans.
Maybe it's because I'm from the US and we are supposed to have that whole separation of Church and State thing, but I don't want to see anyone going through the performative motions of their religion during working hours and especially not when you are performing the duties of public office. I don't care of it's the Muslim call to prayer or someone on their knees with hands clasped in prayer to Jesus or any other practice of any other religion. It's fine to do it, but faith is a deeply personal thing and I just don't feel it's appropriate to make a spectacle out of it and especially not when your on the clock.
As a senior politician, you are always on the clock, so is he NEVER allowed to practice his religion? The news of his election came out in the evening (fasting ends at sunset).Also, Yousaf was the more secular choice in the SNP leadership race, compared to the committed Calvinist Katie Forbes.
On the other hand it's maybe a good thing to say 'Here I am'. No artifice. It's not as if we Scots were unaware of his faith. As an aside, that was a spectacle? LoL.
I mean he’s Scottish First Minister so there isn’t separation of Church and State. As a child I had to learn and recite Christian prayer at school, and religious education was a subject on our timetable. The Scottish Parliament has a Time for Reflection each week where speakers address the parliament for a few minutes, the speakers are based on the balance of belief in Scotland, so while they are mostly Christian, other faiths and those with no religious belief are also included, so it’s not separate from our politics either. I’m not religious, but religious groups are part of society, so I have no problem with a First Minister who publicly practices his faith, especially when it’s a politician who will still vote for policies his religion may disagree with.
That whole separation of church and state is a load of nonsense though, isn't it? As I understand it, you don't have a hope in hell of becoming a politician, and remaining one, without 1) being religious, and 2) publicly proclaiming your religiosity to anyone within earshot. That's not how we do things in Scotland, or in the other countries that make up the UK. In fact, being outwardly religious can be a major turn-off for some people. But, in saying all of that, we also do have the House of Lords - with special provisions being made for the Church of England and the like.
Thanks for being a guest on the pod Humza. He’s a nice bloke. Where can I find this E Jean Carroll Interview please? Please, I’m a avid follower of E Jean!
@@allmyworldlygoods I found it on Apple podcast thanks. It’s actually inspired me so I’m listening to her book ‘What do we need men for? A modest proposal’ with my one free credit free trial on audibly. She’s fascinating.
I won't write it, but it's a shortened version of Pakistan. Racists use it as a slur against South Asians generally, not just those from/ with heritage from Pakistan.
Additional context that sort of makes the story really unbelievable to a Uk audience- it's arguably the most common racist slur in the country. There's still parts of the older generations that don't see it as wrong.
I really hope the SNP can manage to pick themselves up for the general election because nothing could be worse for the country than Labour thinking they’ve got an unqualified majority and we need the SNP to force them out of their navels and into thinking about what the country needs and what the point of the Labour party’s existence is
any time a politician says "there is no relationship here" there is DEFINITELY a relationship there. coco should introduce herself as nish if she wants (and vice versa). plenty of podcasters do it (not introduce themselves as nish specifically, but introduce themselves as different members of the podcasting crew). plus lovett from pod save us rarely intros himself as his actual name. hell, he'll probably intro himself as nish any day now. final note: as a USian listener, it is SO BIZARRE hearing people describe themselves as republicans.
I must have missed the part where you asked him about the split in his party on social issues such as LGBT rights where 48% of SNP members voted for the candidate opposing him that is on record as saying she'd have voted against equal marriage, and wouldn't vote for the gender recognition act, nor defend it.
We may wish that were the case but if she were truly an irrelevant backbencher she wouldn’t have gained 48% of the votes against Yousaf for leadership. Her views obviously represent almost half of the SNP members.
@@garrickdarts It boils down the nature of the SNP as a party, unlike the rest they have never been centred around a set of political ideals, usually defined as right, left or liberal, rather the SNP are centered on independence. Brexit, a referendum where a large part of the argument for it was based on the notion of sovereignty and taking back control showed that both left and right are capable of voting along nationalistic lines. And so it's always been with the SNP, the membership has never been all one thing, it draws from all sides. Salmond handled this best I feel, with a background in finance he used right of centre economic policies but kept the old labour voters going SNP by adopting the left of centre social policies. Sturgeon, who comes from a background of fighting Thatcherism and championing the causes of the poor, women and minorities, shifted the focus more to centre left and social issues, and it made her a very popular First Minister for a very long time, never losing an election and winning a landslide in all she did stand in. But whilst the top of the party and its public face went left, the membership had never changed, it was as always a mix of right and left. Arguably in fact the party membership, in line with the public had shifted on some subjects a little more right. So it's no real surprise a candidate at the leadership election, Forbes, who represented that side of the party took half the vote. What is of more interest is what Humza does with that knowledge, he did drop pursuing the gender recognition bill and we haven't heard much on such issues since. It would seem he has taken note, and his own religious and moral background would I should think lean him more instinctively towards the fellow religious and moral positions he shares with those such as Forbes and those she represents. If he's good he may be able to find a balance by representing the two sides of the party.
@@garrickdarts It boils down the nature of the SNP as a party, unlike the rest they have never been centred around a set of political ideals, usually defined as right, left or liberal, rather the SNP are centered on independence. Brexit, a referendum where a large part of the argument for it was based on the notion of sovereignty and taking back control showed that both left and right are capable of voting along nationalistic lines. And so it's always been with the SNP, the membership has never been all one thing, it draws from all sides. Salmond handled this best I feel, with a background in finance he used right of centre economic policies but kept the old labour voters going SNP by adopting the left of centre social policies. Sturgeon, who comes from a background of fighting Thatcherism and championing the causes of the poor, women and minorities, shifted the focus more to centre left and social issues, and it made her a very popular First Minister for a very long time, never losing an election and winning a landslide in all she did stand in. But whilst the top of the party and its public face went left, the membership had never changed, it was as always a mix of right and left. Arguably in fact the party membership, in line with the public had shifted on some subjects a little more right. So it's no real surprise a candidate at the leadership election, Forbes, who represented that side of the party took half the vote. What is of more interest is what Humza does with that knowledge, he did drop pursuing the gender recognition bill and we haven't heard much on such issues since. It would seem he has taken note, and his own religious and moral background would I should think lean him more instinctively towards the fellow religious and moral positions he shares with those such as Forbes and those she represents. If he's good he may be able to find a balance by representing the two sides of the party.
It took me a long time to actually read about the gender vote because it's just not interesting to me. When I finally did read about it, it was clear that it really is just not interesting. I bet most of you who have an obsession with it have never actually read what the policy was meant to be, which was nothing interesting. Some people are just easily led though.
You guys are far to deferent and didn't ask any pointed questions at all -- just like the Brexiteers, those clamouring for an independent Scotland should have a plan for what happens AFTER they break ties with their largest trade partner with whom they SHARE A BORDER. What is the SNP's actual plan? They don't seem to have one that makes sense, even if independence is a lofty and worthy ideal -- it just isn't practical. It will absolutely cripple Scotland, just how Brexit has massively injured the British economy. Being less starstruck would work in your favour, you're too kind.
Am I dreaming, or did I just listen to a politician actually answer questions for 45 mins?!
Exactly what I was going to say
what a relatable, funny and authentic person! Thanks for this interview, wishing him all the best!
It’s crazy that I’m listening to a politician who actually seems comfortable talking and answering questions it feels so unreal
This is the second interview in as many days that I’ve seen with Humza Yousaf. Once again the point is hammered home that Scotland has the far superior leader than England, for the second first minister in a row; and while I’ve literally lost count of how many prime ministers we’ve had in that same time, none match up to either Humza or Nicola Sturgeon in my book (including the probable-future-PM of Keir Starmer).
Mark Drakeford in Wales seems like he’s been a decent chap (various interviews with him making that even clearer than just what you see of him in the news etc), and given Michelle O’Neill has been first minister in northern Ireland for all of 7 days it’s probably a bit early to say conclusively one way or the other… but England is very much trailing the pack here, and shaming us all!
You have the likes of Andy Burnham and Sadiq Khan.
@@MsJaytee1975 sure, and I rate both of them! As well as Jamie Driscoll, the mayor of North of Tyne, who I have a lot of time for (and have donated to his campaign, despite living nowhere near, as a Londoner!)
But they’re not national leaders, are they? I love a metro mayor, but they don’t have as much power and authority as the leader of a full country or devolved government, so there’s still plenty more for England to do here!
Proud to have Humza as our first minister 🏴👏🏻🏴
What an absolute delight Humza Yousaf is. I wish that the UK national political scene could be debated in this tone; basic humanity, basic decency, honesty, candor and transparency. I'm a member of the Labour party, but if I was in Scotland, he'd be giving me serious reason to switch. Keir take note!
Are you white?
Gosh hes very likeable for a politician
A politician with a sense of humor and a personality. Sunak take note.
4:01 First Minister's got jokes 😂
Why is Nish so well groomed? Did last episode's discussion trigger something?
Great interview both you and I'm not just saying that to lend my weight to the algorithm
Can we have one episode with just the Coco & Nish intro - it really cheered me up.
Great episode.
First Minister Yousaf seems like a really fantastic person. I think Scotland is lucky to have him.
What’s your view of Islamist terrorists - nice guys?
I like him, and I don’t vote SNP, I liked Sturgeon too.
this man is doing everything for all Scotland. I wish rishi would do the same for England
I do love the Scottish accent. Good interview too.
Scotland will thrive with independence
Nish - you are my favourite comedian ever! "First minister - cry me a f***ing river". THANK YOU.
Humza Yousaf is a breath of fresh air compared to Sunak and Starmer. So tired of incompetence, corruption and divisiveness in Westminster. Great show as always Coco and Nish xXx
American here and no offense to nish and coco love your accent but always love Scottish and Irish accents lol
Suella Braverman. ACKKKKKK! We have some schmucks in office in Canada (our prime Minister, the head of the Conservatives, Premier of Ontario and Alberta)🇨🇦 but Suella scares me in a way that even Trump doesn't.
She is horrifying in every way
I've voted SNP consistently over the last ten years, and despite their recent troubles, they still seem better than labour or the tories.
The bar *is* low, but... yeah
The SNP have been the best government Scotlands had & their politicians are way more impressive than Westminster politicians
it's alien to see a politician sounding so...human.
Uncanny valley
Honestly, Scottish politicians across the board are still quite human sounding, even the tories, well some of them. And I say that even when it comes to politicians I disagree with.
Coco is funnier and smarter than Nish. Just a given.
Hey, hey, hey! Clearly Coco is funny and smart, but no need to denigrate Nish over it! 😅
Not saying Nish is a derp and unfunny. Just find Coco smarter and funnier.
It's impossible not to be funnier than Nish.
Humza is a great leader and the man who will lead us to independence. Saor alba gu brath!
Humza feels like he comes from a different era of politics where respect for your opposition is given as people, and their policies are what are attacked.
I do wish there been a few more questions about the internal issues inside the SNP in differences of opinions that were raised during the leader election. But Also I didn't want any of these question removed so I guess you just have to have him back.
As you say he seems to be from an era of politics we don't see as much of right now so I don't think you'd get much of an answer beyond a diplomatic "internal debate/differing opinions happens - the party chose the direction - respect to his opponents".
Nish getting in the joke about how a young boy would have a... strong right arm rather than working a tough job. With the First Minister, no less! You could hear how scandalous it was by Coco's panicked voice! 🤣
Of COURSE Brett Goldstein ♥️ follows PSUK 😁
Obviously that's not my only takeaway from this brilliant episode - the Humza Yousaf interview at last! - but that early mention of Brett out a huge smile on my face, and it's still there
Rishi Sunak thinks he's passing by denying.
Humza Yousaf 👏👏👏👏👏👍
Love
I like Humza and I think he’s a decent First Minister, but he’s let down often by his cabinet, especially those on the centre right of the SNP. I voted no in the 2014 independence referendum and I currently have no idea how I would vote in another one. I would be more likely to vote yes if more in the SNP were like Humza and spoke out about injustice.
Edit: I can’t believe he just said Kier Starmer rubber dingied him, he’s been in Dundee too long. 😂😂😂😂
no voters put Scotland in every bit the mess the rest of us said it would be in. I'd never admit that I voted no. The damage that it has done and continues to do is immeasurable.
@@abody499 People like you are why I’m reluctant to vote yes.
yes, that perfectly captures the limited mentality of no voters.
@@abody499 Ah yes, replying with ableism, just proving the dangers within the yes campaign
Oh the dangers of political knowledge and understanding - how scary. Limited mentality doesn't say anything at all about ability. Learning is possible from birth to death. People should base their voting decisions on a thorough understanding of material conditions, not the ideas of random people online. Whatever your limited judgement of me is, it has absolutely no material bearing whatsoever on the outcome of anyone else's votes.
I got Quibi just to watch your show
Nish I'm buying Coco a pressure washer, because well... She's the funny one and you're...
Suella Braverman has a Indo-African background. Indo-Africans historically came to Africa during the British Empire's time, with the English colonial power. At that time they served the British as butlers or as leaders on the plantations. That is why these people, the Indo-Africans, are also quite racist, especially towards Black Africans.
Maybe it's because I'm from the US and we are supposed to have that whole separation of Church and State thing, but I don't want to see anyone going through the performative motions of their religion during working hours and especially not when you are performing the duties of public office. I don't care of it's the Muslim call to prayer or someone on their knees with hands clasped in prayer to Jesus or any other practice of any other religion. It's fine to do it, but faith is a deeply personal thing and I just don't feel it's appropriate to make a spectacle out of it and especially not when your on the clock.
As a senior politician, you are always on the clock, so is he NEVER allowed to practice his religion? The news of his election came out in the evening (fasting ends at sunset).Also, Yousaf was the more secular choice in the SNP leadership race, compared to the committed Calvinist Katie Forbes.
I agree your personal religious choice should be kept 100% out of the State.
On the other hand it's maybe a good thing to say 'Here I am'. No artifice. It's not as if we Scots were unaware of his faith. As an aside, that was a spectacle? LoL.
I mean he’s Scottish First Minister so there isn’t separation of Church and State. As a child I had to learn and recite Christian prayer at school, and religious education was a subject on our timetable. The Scottish Parliament has a Time for Reflection each week where speakers address the parliament for a few minutes, the speakers are based on the balance of belief in Scotland, so while they are mostly Christian, other faiths and those with no religious belief are also included, so it’s not separate from our politics either.
I’m not religious, but religious groups are part of society, so I have no problem with a First Minister who publicly practices his faith, especially when it’s a politician who will still vote for policies his religion may disagree with.
That whole separation of church and state is a load of nonsense though, isn't it? As I understand it, you don't have a hope in hell of becoming a politician, and remaining one, without 1) being religious, and 2) publicly proclaiming your religiosity to anyone within earshot. That's not how we do things in Scotland, or in the other countries that make up the UK. In fact, being outwardly religious can be a major turn-off for some people. But, in saying all of that, we also do have the House of Lords - with special provisions being made for the Church of England and the like.
Thanks for being a guest on the pod Humza. He’s a nice bloke.
Where can I find this E Jean Carroll Interview please? Please, I’m a avid follower of E Jean!
I think if you search for Strict Scrutiny podcast it should pop up
@@allmyworldlygoods I found it on Apple podcast thanks. It’s actually inspired me so I’m listening to her book ‘What do we need men for? A modest proposal’ with my one free credit free trial on audibly. She’s fascinating.
43:00 Kid Starver strikes again.
Same american I'm just curious what is the p.word mentioned about rishi sibling? Seemed like it was a slur
P*ki
I won't write it, but it's a shortened version of Pakistan. Racists use it as a slur against South Asians generally, not just those from/ with heritage from Pakistan.
Additional context that sort of makes the story really unbelievable to a Uk audience- it's arguably the most common racist slur in the country. There's still parts of the older generations that don't see it as wrong.
Yeah it's a little insane. I was still hearing it at school a decade ago. It's ubiquitous.
I really hope the SNP can manage to pick themselves up for the general election because nothing could be worse for the country than Labour thinking they’ve got an unqualified majority and we need the SNP to force them out of their navels and into thinking about what the country needs and what the point of the Labour party’s existence is
This dude could be Kal Penn’s cousin.
If you can read your own name Nish youre doing better than Biden
any time a politician says "there is no relationship here" there is DEFINITELY a relationship there.
coco should introduce herself as nish if she wants (and vice versa). plenty of podcasters do it (not introduce themselves as nish specifically, but introduce themselves as different members of the podcasting crew). plus lovett from pod save us rarely intros himself as his actual name. hell, he'll probably intro himself as nish any day now.
final note: as a USian listener, it is SO BIZARRE hearing people describe themselves as republicans.
I must have missed the part where you asked him about the split in his party on social issues such as LGBT rights where 48% of SNP members voted for the candidate opposing him that is on record as saying she'd have voted against equal marriage, and wouldn't vote for the gender recognition act, nor defend it.
Why would they ask him about an irrelevant backbencher? All that would do is give Forbes the attention she wants.
We may wish that were the case but if she were truly an irrelevant backbencher she wouldn’t have gained 48% of the votes against Yousaf for leadership. Her views obviously represent almost half of the SNP members.
@@garrickdarts It boils down the nature of the SNP as a party, unlike the rest they have never been centred around a set of political ideals, usually defined as right, left or liberal, rather the SNP are centered on independence. Brexit, a referendum where a large part of the argument for it was based on the notion of sovereignty and taking back control showed that both left and right are capable of voting along nationalistic lines. And so it's always been with the SNP, the membership has never been all one thing, it draws from all sides.
Salmond handled this best I feel, with a background in finance he used right of centre economic policies but kept the old labour voters going SNP by adopting the left of centre social policies. Sturgeon, who comes from a background of fighting Thatcherism and championing the causes of the poor, women and minorities, shifted the focus more to centre left and social issues, and it made her a very popular First Minister for a very long time, never losing an election and winning a landslide in all she did stand in. But whilst the top of the party and its public face went left, the membership had never changed, it was as always a mix of right and left. Arguably in fact the party membership, in line with the public had shifted on some subjects a little more right. So it's no real surprise a candidate at the leadership election, Forbes, who represented that side of the party took half the vote.
What is of more interest is what Humza does with that knowledge, he did drop pursuing the gender recognition bill and we haven't heard much on such issues since. It would seem he has taken note, and his own religious and moral background would I should think lean him more instinctively towards the fellow religious and moral positions he shares with those such as Forbes and those she represents. If he's good he may be able to find a balance by representing the two sides of the party.
@@garrickdarts It boils down the nature of the SNP as a party, unlike the rest they have never been centred around a set of political ideals, usually defined as right, left or liberal, rather the SNP are centered on independence. Brexit, a referendum where a large part of the argument for it was based on the notion of sovereignty and taking back control showed that both left and right are capable of voting along nationalistic lines. And so it's always been with the SNP, the membership has never been all one thing, it draws from all sides.
Salmond handled this best I feel, with a background in finance he used right of centre economic policies but kept the old labour voters going SNP by adopting the left of centre social policies. Sturgeon, who comes from a background of fighting Thatcherism and championing the causes of the poor, women and minorities, shifted the focus more to centre left and social issues, and it made her a very popular First Minister for a very long time, never losing an election and winning a landslide in all she did stand in. But whilst the top of the party and its public face went left, the membership had never changed, it was as always a mix of right and left. Arguably in fact the party membership, in line with the public had shifted on some subjects a little more right. So it's no real surprise a candidate at the leadership election, Forbes, who represented that side of the party took half the vote.
What is of more interest is what Humza does with that knowledge, he did drop pursuing the gender recognition bill and we haven't heard much on such issues since. It would seem he has taken note, and his own religious and moral background would I should think lean him more instinctively towards the fellow religious and moral positions he shares with those such as Forbes and those she represents. If he's good he may be able to find a balance by representing the two sides of the party.
It took me a long time to actually read about the gender vote because it's just not interesting to me. When I finally did read about it, it was clear that it really is just not interesting. I bet most of you who have an obsession with it have never actually read what the policy was meant to be, which was nothing interesting. Some people are just easily led though.
Three smug racists.
@@chrisbfreelance what racism? Where?
Humza Youseff - can’t wait to vote him out!
You guys are far to deferent and didn't ask any pointed questions at all -- just like the Brexiteers, those clamouring for an independent Scotland should have a plan for what happens AFTER they break ties with their largest trade partner with whom they SHARE A BORDER. What is the SNP's actual plan? They don't seem to have one that makes sense, even if independence is a lofty and worthy ideal -- it just isn't practical. It will absolutely cripple Scotland, just how Brexit has massively injured the British economy.
Being less starstruck would work in your favour, you're too kind.
Yousaf - disgrace of a politician! How’s his affair with another woman going? Are you going to interview his wife?
🤡👆Disgrace politician 😂👉Boris Johson had an affair with another woman 👈😂
This guy is the biggest mistake in Scotlands history!
I thought King James was
The SNP have been the best government Scotlands had & Yousef is a good FM.
@@catrionaskivingtonskivingt4819 You are either a Muslim or deluded!!
Nish - you are my favourite comedian ever! "First minister - cry me a f***ing river". THANK YOU.
"Nish - you are my favourite comedian ever! "
A sentence nobody has ever said.
@@chrisbfreelance That makes me a nobody.