Interview with Chrigel Glanzmann (Eluveitie) about veganism

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  • @zerogivesbeats
    @zerogivesbeats 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video, thanks for sharing this!
    I don't know why but I was listening to Eluveitie these days and I was asking if any of the band member could be vegan and here I am. This made my day 😅

  • @MetalBere
    @MetalBere 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    👏👏👏

  • @sandrorass9607
    @sandrorass9607 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting! I'd like to hear more!

    • @chrigelglanzmann8971
      @chrigelglanzmann8971 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello thanks for your comments and supports, your comments and constant supports have brought me this far. Keep supporting❤️
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  • @paulfuentes5276
    @paulfuentes5276 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    😍⁠

    • @chrigelglanzmann8971
      @chrigelglanzmann8971 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi, thanks for your comments and support, your constant comments and support brought me here. Keep supporting Please send me an email via luke bryan goodliving@gmail.com

  • @stephaniephilippe3965
    @stephaniephilippe3965 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    💚

    • @chrigelglanzmann8971
      @chrigelglanzmann8971 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello thanks for your comments and supports, your comments and constant supports have brought me this far. Keep supporting❤️
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  • @Telladriel
    @Telladriel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have a couple of maybe unrelated thoughts that I want to write down.
    First off, while I am somewhat invested in vegetarian/vegan culture, I can't help but to find it hypocritical. For instance, you condemn anyone who isn't a vegan, but then say preaching is not cool or whatever. But if you as a vegan are factually and objectively right, then isn't it your duty to spread this information. Having said that, I do agree that that is not the best approach, people definitely don't like being told what to do and it actually creates a counter effect, they then become defensive of their current stance.
    Also, you said multiple times that you weren't aware of how bad things were, but I wonder if Kay or Fabi were more vocal about it, would you do it sooner or maybe not at all.
    As for my second thought, I think in the grand scheme of things being 100% vegan is not the answer. I think buying local is more important. Don't fund the mass factories of death, but buy from a local farmer who grows his crops and livestock on free range. I think that globalisation and foreign import is what brought us to this downfall. I mean, we eat fruits and vegetables out of season which are then imported from like Australia on big boats and aircrafts. If we just ate locally, no imports, no mass industries, we'd be better off.

    • @Eluveitieprivat
      @Eluveitieprivat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hey Noel
      Thanks for your comment and your thoughts! Appreciate it!
      Regarding the first part of what you said, I'd like to point out the following:
      Firstly I am not condemning anybody! Why should I or how on earth would I own the right to do so? And yes, I do believe it's not cool to preach at anybody. And no, I don't think it is my duty to do so.
      But this is kind of an endless topic we could discuss forever without getting anywhere, it's like coming a full circle, a catch-22 situation. It's what we saw and see happening also with religions. Example: Orthodox catholics believe non-catholics will go to hell. When they're telling dissident people so, it's understandable though that these get offended. So that's not cool. But then again, if catholics really believe that, wouldn't it simply be an act of love to actually go out and try to "convert" everybody?
      It's an endless story! And I don't see much of a point in it.
      And at the end of the day it's always also a question of the matureness and serenity of everybody... in the sense of: To what extent do I let opinions and statements of other people offend me at all? It's my decision after all, isn't it? ;)
      But anyway:
      I do not condemn and I don't think it's right to condemn. And no, I don't think it's my duty, nor do I think it's cool to preach.
      But I do think it's a good and important thing to educate myself as well as to pass around information.
      All the more since this is NOT about an opinion, a religion, a lifestyle or anything like that. For instance: If water shortage, conservation of water and sustainability is a common topic in our societies (which it is, at least around where I'm from), then I do think it is important to also point out the fact that 15'000 liters of water are needed to produce only 1 kg of beef. What everybody does with this information is up to them, obviously.
      What you say regarding Kay or Fabi: Maybe? Who knows. But at the end of the day I'm coming back to the "process thing". ;) You know, today there are so many things being in a sorry state in this world, things we all should deal with, I suppose. Going vegan is only one step. I think it's a very effective step, but it's still just one of many.
      Then regarding your second statement:
      First of all, I never said (and neither would I) that going vegan is "the answer". I definitely do think it is a very, very effective way that solves surprisingly much at once and I don't see why I should not do that, especially since it's so easy to do. But I don't think it's the answer to all of our problems.
      I absolutely agree with what you say about globalisation and crazy imports! Totally. And I absolutely agree with you regarding buying locally! Thumbs up!
      And in theory I would even agree with you in what you say about industrial mass farming vs. free range (apart the fact that also free range animals aren't excited about being killed, apart the fact that also free range babies are taken from their free range mothers, apart from the fact that also free range milk is still fucking baby food and not meant for adults, apart from the fact that also proteins from free range animals adhere our blood vessels, and so on). But only in theory... because unfortunately it's not real. Not with nearly 8 million humans on the planet! It simply is not even closely possible to cover the demand of 8 mio meat eating & milk consuming humans with free range farming! Not if we don't have a second planet of the size of the earth, which we only use for that free range farming.
      It MAYBE could be possible if everybody would cut down their demand for animal products massively (like in: eating 50 gram of meat and consuming 1 glass of milk per week or every two weeks max). And then... we're pretty much at the beginning again. ;) Go around and tell people that they should do so. What reactions would you get, you think? ;)
      But even then we'd still be stuck with all the problems animal farming comes with... the emissions (which would be significantly lowered then, but still), the very unsustainable water wastage, the crazy import transports and deforestation (because even with free range farming: It heavily depends on where on the planet you do so, but for a lot of territories on this planet it's not possible to raise free range livestock AND sufficiently produce crops/soy to feed your livestock at the same time! In most cases it would still remain mandatory to import crops from anywhere).
      Damn! What a fucking chatterbox I am, haha! Sorry for writing a bloody novel again. If this goes on like that, I'll soon have to stop being a musician and start being a book writer. ;)))
      Wish you a good day!

    • @GianAlbertin
      @GianAlbertin  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hey Noel
      Besides everything Chrigel said, it is a fact that regional meat does far more damage to the planet than imported plants. But fortunatly you can eat vegan and regional.

    • @Telladriel
      @Telladriel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Eluveitieprivat Thank you for your response, and I don't mind the long format at all :) You have to come to terms that you've always been a chatterbox haha Hopefully, if Eluveitie ever books a gig in Croatia again we could go more in-depth with the topic.
      As for now, yeah, great analogy with the religion conversions. It is indeed a possibly endless loop, and it's super dumb that people are more acceptive of their imaginary religion than they would ever be of veganism, even though the latter solves real world issues, and the foremer, well, really only creates them haha. Like I said, I am not strictly vegan, but whenever I can I try to reduce animal product intake. What I observed as I learned about veganism is how much tradition and basic upbringing during childhood affects your perception on it. For instance, I was raised without knowing what meat is, or where it comes from. To me, it was just simply food. Something I ate that tasted good, and I never second questioned it. And now that I am an adult, and I obviously know a lot more about the world, I somehow still don't have, how should I say it, enough of a level of sympathy towards animals. And it really does suck. I know it's wrong, and I know that in x amount of years from now people will be looking back and saying "how could we do that to animals in those times". I believe I am aware of it enough to understand it, but a lot of people wouldn't even bother.
      I guess what I'm trying to say is that it will take many more years and many more generations until people change their mindset towards animals. And, to be honest, as it stands, I don't think we are even going in that direction for now.
      And as far as the local growing thing goes, I think you're also right. It's definitely unsustainable in the long term, but it's a good starting point. You say how easy it is to go vegan, and I feel that really depends from person to person and, again, how they were raised and all that. Buying locally is the minimum such people could do, hell maybe even higher prices make them cut down on the meat and make them eat healthy most of the days. But again, unfortunately, capitalism and low price hunting which is now in our bones prevents such endeavours.
      Also on a sidenote, at least here in Croatia, being a vegan is substantially more expensive. Almond milk is like twice the price of the animal origin one, a lot of the vegan fast food restaurants are also maybe even triple the price of regular ones and so on, so unless you really are only eating homemade salads, it's going to be expensive on your wallet.

    • @Telladriel
      @Telladriel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@GianAlbertin Well in that case, it's kind of a moral dilemma, innit? Should we try to give animals a better life or should we reduce the damage to our planet. Of course, in this case going vegan is definitely the right thing, this is more of a cynic in me making the comment

    • @Eluveitieprivat
      @Eluveitieprivat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Telladriel Hey Noel! Thank you so much for your very interesting and enjoyable comment! "...even though the latter solves real world issues, and the foremer, well, really only creates them" Hahaha, good one! ;)
      Yeah, I totally underrstand you there. It's a bit the same for me - as also grew up unterstanding meat as "just food", not realising it's actually body parts of killed animals. That's a bit what I meant in the interview. There's sooo many things, so much mischief in our modern societies we're simply born into, we're raised with and we're being told it's all "normal" and "just what we do and always have done". It's by far not only about eating habits and our behaviour towards animals; there's a billion things and aspects in the ways of our lives. Unfortunately. But yeah... step by step we can open up our minds and change things for the better. And yes, you're right, it takes time! Now I notice I didn't mention that in the interview, but personally I think that every little step matters! If people are not going vegan, fair enough... but every single steak less bought, every single package of almond milk bought instead of cows milk, ect. already makes a difference!
      And so yes, it's the same with buying locally! Every locally grown cucumber bought instead one imported from another continent already makes a difference! So that's good! :)
      Again, it's a process. And I do think every single person has their own "journey" as well as their own "time schedule"! This is also another point why I do think it's pointless to preach at people! Look at myself, best example. I was raised "loving animals", for instance. But at the same time I was raised that eating them is perfectly normal and fine. Since my childhood nature and the environment were important to me. But at the same time I grew up with a lot of ecologically damaging habits. And it took me many years to realise bit by bit and my journey is FAR from being over, I'm still continuously learning (need to); I had to turn 45 years old to skip animal products from my plate. And so on.
      Yeah, I agree with you - it takes a lot of time for our societies to change. And sadly I also think that we humans - as a global entirety - aren't even going in that direction for now.
      But, I also do believe that an awakening, a change of thinking is happening. And it's growing day by day!
      I do believe we're about to stand at some kind of crossroads and I do believe that things will change.
      Well, they have to change otherwise there's a very dark future for mankind (if a future at all). And if we're not changing by ourselves, we'll reach a point where our governements will have to force changes by law in order to ensure the survival of the human race. We are not at this point yet. But it will definitely come.
      Sorry to hear about the situation with the prices there, though. It's crazy and unintelligible though. Hope (and keep my fingers crossed) that it's going to change. But I'm actually fairly positive about that! :) In Switzerland you obviously also buy pretty expensive vegan stuff and also you can buy ridiculously cheap animal products. But if you buy more or less "decent" animal products (local & organic, for instance), then they're pretty expensive and definitely more expensive than regular or even organic vegan stuff. That's where I've drawn my conclusion from. But true, it can also be the other way round, depending on what you buy.
      And yes, I know, I've always been a chatterbox. :-/ And that's why I now finally stop fuckin writing, haha! :)
      Hell yeah, we also hope badly that we can finally come back to Croatia as soon as possible!!!
      Till then - have a great time & be safe!

  • @Eerielai
    @Eerielai 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All / most problems having the same soltuion is a sign of ideologically possessed thinking. People don't have ideas, ideas have people.

  • @xoxorini
    @xoxorini 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please inform yourself about supplements if you go vegan. I think it is not responsible to say just cut off all animal products without also at least say that. Beside of that I really enjoyed the video. I really like the idea of planting trees. Also (I don't know if it is done already) but one can look that band merch is produced environmently friendly and not by child labour and so on. :-)

    • @Eluveitieprivat
      @Eluveitieprivat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hey Xoxorini
      Thanks for your comment, appreciate it! :) Responsible or not, well I'm not a doctor nor nutrition adviser and I'm personally also not really doing supplements (if you worry about B12, for example - quite some of the plant-based cheese I enjoy comes enriched with B12, and other than that, the way I live with all our animals and our garden I get in touch with actual and healthy soil a lot, I should take in enough of B12 there already ;)).
      But yeah, be this as it may - I officially add this to what I said in the interview: If you think about going vegan, please inform yourself about a what healthy vegan diet is. Or more precisely: Generally inform yourself about healthy diet! (@xoxorini: Did you know that most patients with B12 deficiencies are not vegans but meat eaters? ;) There's many aspects playing a role there)
      But anyway, if you think about going vegan too I generally hope that inform yourself thoroughly anyway. Because I want you to be convinced! ;)
      About your input on the merch production: Yessss! Of course you're right. I didn't mention this in the interview. But yes, that's another topic for us we're currently dealing with: To produce ecofriendly, fair trade and no bloody child labour merchandise. Cool you mentioned that!

    • @xoxorini
      @xoxorini 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Eluveitieprivat I am sorry if my comment sounded too harsh, I informed myself about the vegan diet and therefore know that a lot of people had health problems because they were not informed enough (reputable sources are important), so I just wanted to add that. It is a pity if someone tries it but quit just because they did not feel well because of nutritional deficiency. Thank you very much for your response :-)

    • @Eluveitieprivat
      @Eluveitieprivat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@xoxorini Nothing to say sorry for! :) It wasn't harsh! I appreciate your comment.
      And yes, you're right, it's generally important to educate oneself about nutrition! And yes, you're right, it would be a pity if someone goes vegan and then quits again because of developing deficiencies or so. True!
      But I still wanna make this clear here: It's true that it is very easy to be vegan and still eat very unhealthy. Sure.
      But that's a general problem, not a vegan one! ;)
      Of course you can develope a vitamin B12 deficiency by going vegan, for instance. But you can also develope a vitamin B12 deficiency as a meat eater or vegetarian.
      I think it's important to keep the "big picture" in mind:
      There are some vegans (or people that just went vegan) that develop deficiencies or start feeling unwell due to their new diet. That's true!
      There are millions of meat eaters developing diabetes, various heart diseases, cardio-vascular diseases, diverse forms of cancer, ect. and millions of meat eaters DYING each year of the consequences of these diseases, of heart attacks, of adiposity, ect. due to their diet. That's also fuckin true!
      But of course industry and media focus on the few vegans that start to feel unwell because of their transition to a plant-based diet and try so hard to draw the public's attention to the risks of a vegan diet. Ahm yeah.... :)))
      Of course you're right! And I appreciate your comment! I think it's important that everybody gets proper information (and yes, reputable sources are very important! I absolutely agree!).
      But I still also wanna officially make it clear here that we also should not let ourselves be lulled in by widely spread fairy tales. Let's keep scientifical numbers on the top of our heads, let's keep a realistic view on things as they are!
      For... IF we're thinking and worrying about healt, the vegan diet is not the one being the actual problem! ;)

    • @chrigelglanzmann8971
      @chrigelglanzmann8971 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello thanks for your comments and supports, your comments and constant and supporting❤️
      Please send me a mail via glanzmannchrigel46@gmail.com