for some people a 250 fits their body type much better and allows them to take advantage of the ninja 250's nimble handling. There are smaller bikes with higher displacement though they still weigh significantly more. I personally am too tall for a ninja 250 but to each their own.
65-70 hp would be amazing on this bike, that would mean it would be making more than 1/3 the power of bikes with 4x its own cc range. Also you have to take in to consideration the power to weight ratio on these bikes, This 250 weigh's only a 170KG stock so 1 litre bikes weigh about 200+ KG so there is a big difference when getting more horses out of such a light weight bike. You would only have to change the sprockets and you could gain alot more higher top end out of it.
Here in Indonesia we mod our 250's because there's a tax on bikes with a larger than 250cc capacity, big bikes cost, on average, 2.5-3 times more than they would abroad. They're not even on regular sale here, you'd have to order one through grey import or through the Harley Davidson dealer, which is the only big bike sold regularly here (of which the cheap ones cost you $60.000.-) . In short, if we can tune our 250's, we do it
Wow, just looked up the old cbr.. You are right! I'm almost positive the new 250s are all single cylinder though. I wanna see the size of a 250cc inline 4's piston... lol.
hahaha ^^ sure there are... every big japanese brand had one back in the 90's... look for honda cbr 250rr - i think it was the best of them all - and it made 45hp at around 18'000rpm, without turbo of course!
I've got a cbr250rr 1991 and yeah new it would have made 45hp and go 200kph at 19.5k rpm although it spikes HP at somewhere near 15-16k rpm. I want to turbo it but the small cylinders would have a hard time compared to this which is either a 1 or 2 cylinder. And the availability for parts for the ninja will a lot more than for an old CBR 250rr
best 250 ever, it screamed to a 19,000 rpm redline (there were two versions I think one may have been a lower redline but the one I know/want is 19k) unfortunately the only way to get it in the US is to import it via gray market from japan. you can get it cheaper from australia but the ones in australia have generally been thrashed to hell already. someday I'll own one and turbo that...45hp pre turbo/other performance mods :)
In Indonesia all bike above 250cc are subject to luxury tax, so a 600cc bike with a price tag of US$8K will be tagged around US$24K, not to mention other tax such as customs, import tax, et cetera. So it still cheaper to built a 250cc bike with a turbo than spend your money to buy a 600cc bike in Indonesia
@codyschuyler They did. But it didn't sell well 22 years ago and they haven't tried since. it's called a CBR400, In the US there's only the CB-1. I have a CB-1. It makes about 62hp and jetted, tuned for racing, kerker exhaust.
yes unfortunately they are not very common even in my country, they are becoming very very rare. that's because when it was introduced the cb400 and cb600 hornet they became favorites. especially the 400
it's about about 26 hp stock, but with a performence exhaust, air filter etc it has about 30hp + a turbo that makes the number double on a normal engine means that it's 60 hp like on this 250cc engine.
@carsnwomen91 oh i forgot that factory numbers are crank instead of wheel. yep, 25 for one with a bit of wear and only a couple of more hp for one in top condition. jets+ exhaust only gets it around 30. that makes this turbo 250r which starts with almost the same engine pretty amazing. double the power! should be easy to get over 200kmh i hope, with a sprocket change
@XboxTrimival Neither do you, a stock 250r has just over 30hp at the crank and delivers just over 26 at the rear wheel, so this turbo setup has produced some 32rwhp extra...
Pretty much, I'm Malaysian and a 600 fits me just right actually. Also, I wanted to get myself a 600. But turns out my license is restricted to 250. So I got a 250 and pretty much happy with it. All I have to do now is use it for 2 years, Get a full license, then upgrade to a 600.
Hehe. No, man. I was making a joke because you meant to say "stock" (as in OEM or original part) but used"stuck" (as in being being trapped or caught) instead. Good job on that ninja. Those little bikes are really sweet and economical as well. I ride an old ninja ZX10. Cheers!
@nickcarullo But that 250 there has more bhp per litre than your bike, that 250 will have about 70hp at the crank for it to have 58hp at the rear wheel, your bike produces merely 37hp at the crank per 250ccm displacement.
@revadimarco Fact is this is home tuning. Only japan has an out of the box kit for the 250 availlable. so don't expect this in a bengkel near your home ;)
like what nick said, in Australia we have a law where by when you first get your license you are limited to a 250cc or below. Therefore we buy a 250cc for the first year and if we get bored of it we try and boost the power. Wish it wasn't the case and we could choose to die on an R1 quicker :)
dear goodness, I'd love to do this to a 250. Better handling and probably better acceleration than a 600. Maybe match a 600 super sport? Its similar power with half the weight.
A yamaha TZR 250 2 stroke, which has 50hp stock, would do between 170-180km/h, the race version of this bike which produces about 60hp does 190-200km/h So that's an indication of how fast the Ninja 250r turbo will go, keep in mind the TZR250 is 20kg's lighter. And wont explode, eventually.
@killbillkrishna well it does and it doesn't, a standard version of this bike struggles to get to the red line point in 6th gear but with all this extra torque and power it will be able to red line straight through the rpm's & gain an extra 1k rpm and gain about 10mph top end with standard gearing but i'm not sure how the internals of the bike would deal with that its possible with riding like that the insides would start to break down so the only option really would be to change the sprockets
well some states simply limit the cc such as WA, however others also restrict on a power to weight basis, such that someone could ride a gold wing, but not a cbr400..kinda weird but i guess it works. Also the power to weight ratio is done on the stock bike stats, so this still would be fine
i know that many people think its pointless to have a turbo on this bike only to make 58 hp but compared to how light the bike is then its useful. its always best to compare ratios.
Hey guys i'm looking for a first time bike ... and I think this is the one for me. I'm just wondering though about the upgrades like this for the bike I prob wont be doing anything to the bike once i get it apart from change the exhaust etc but how do I go about getting upgrades like this for the bike in the near future? also if I had it tuned to work with a turbo id also want the bottom end changed so it can propperly take the new pressures it would receive for more power and longevity
@arizotje ....This is a serious question..? ...would you like me to draw you a picture? the bikes I mention have the same hp ratio, therefore the comparison is accurate, the only difference being that the 2 stroke has that power stock and will thus have longer gears to accompany the power, but who cares if its 2 stroke or 4 stroke, that's entirely beyond the point.
@mikk999 your zzr has about 25whp, even if you add 20% over the whp for crank hp its still far from the factory claimed 40... still an awesome bike nonetheless, i had one for 3 years
@fifielcoolio Because in alot of Asian countries they have such high taxes on bikes over a certain CC that this is cheaper. In places like Indonesia where this was done, you might have to pay close to $20k or more just to get a 600cc bike. So over there you will find that the Ninja 250 is actually king of the streets. They mod the ever living crap out of them and come up with things like this 58hp beauty that many of us in the USA would love to have.
@blakecot This is what I was told by people over there as to why they do so many mods to 250's. On the ninjette.org forums we have people from over there and according to them it's just cheaper to mod a 250 and do turbo's then to get a 600+cc bike because of the taxes on them.
anyone know how this bike wil perform with this setup but the engine rebuilt with JE-spares STD 286cc 13:5:1 big bore pistons and ofc the engine re-built to take more punishment such as higher compression and higher rpm's?
some people have restricted license. Unless they spend more money and time for a full license they are stuck with a 250. Also its Indonesia. 250 is the perfect size cause its small. Good luck going around with a 600.
@XboxTrimival Get your facts straight! stock 600cc push 110 at the crank, stock kawa 250r push 31 at the crank. The 58 hp here is at the wheel! So this is about 70 at the crank. Would beat a stock 600cc in the twisties.
Then i can inform you that there is even put turbo on 50cc, so that piston are like peanut then? And if you browse the nett, you can even find turbo for most engiens!
I second this! That's been my bike for 2 years. I'm looking into ways to get more power out of it without upgrading to 600. (still getting a ZX-6R, but that doesn't change my plans for the 300; I'd rather mod it and have 2 funs bikes instead of 1)
+Jeff and the Quest It's cheaper than anyother little bike but still around 1k if you do your own labor but you can get more than this out of it. you can make 80whp all day and not open the motor although some studs wouldn't be a bad idea. really the weak link in the ex250 motor is the crank and they don't go unless one or more of two conditions outside of problems and that is don't rev pass 16k and don't make more than 110ftlbs then it won't snap at the timing gear. but turbo easy 100 efi depends on what you want but ecotrons is around 500 and your gonna want to swap out some extra cheap parts or microsquirt much nicer but alltogether your gonna be closer to 650. and pluming well go but a heatgun and some pvc and get to it. make sure you give your self at least 3 times displacement of plenum and youl make thins power at less rpm and 7-8psi on a rhb32/31. and more like 80whp at 18ish but then heat is a thing and you might want to look into meth injection instead of an air to air like they have here. very cheap to make preturbo and it keeps my Frankenstein cool at 25psi with 14:1cr and air oil cooling given I built the engine for it but still my head temps are hotter when I let it idle for along time. then it might get to 280 but as soon as I get some boosting in it drops to low 200s.
@panamastr hey wheres ur 1000cc? can i see it? can we see it? can all of youtube see it?? can u see u ride it on a track without u crashing or overtaken by a 600??
so dope . i always thought how this bike has an underpowered engine that can handle a lot more . definitely experimenting with a turbo in the future
for a 250 four stroke to hit 58HP! thats pretty bad ass!
for some people a 250 fits their body type much better and allows them to take advantage of the ninja 250's nimble handling. There are smaller bikes with higher displacement though they still weigh significantly more. I personally am too tall for a ninja 250 but to each their own.
This is what we want all of our ninja 250 's to be like lol
now go out there and kick some ass, damnit!!
65-70 hp would be amazing on this bike, that would mean it would be making more than 1/3 the power of bikes with 4x its own cc range. Also you have to take in to consideration the power to weight ratio on these bikes, This 250 weigh's only a 170KG stock so 1 litre bikes weigh about 200+ KG so there is a big difference when getting more horses out of such a light weight bike. You would only have to change the sprockets and you could gain alot more higher top end out of it.
200 hp would be great from a 125
That sounds entertaining :) I bet that puppy's a little rocket sled.
That bike sounds so nice.
Here in Indonesia we mod our 250's because there's a tax on bikes with a larger than 250cc capacity, big bikes cost, on average, 2.5-3 times more than they would abroad. They're not even on regular sale here, you'd have to order one through grey import or through the Harley Davidson dealer, which is the only big bike sold regularly here (of which the cheap ones cost you $60.000.-) . In short, if we can tune our 250's, we do it
thats sick man!!
Wow, just looked up the old cbr.. You are right! I'm almost positive the new 250s are all single cylinder though. I wanna see the size of a 250cc inline 4's piston... lol.
hahaha ^^ sure there are... every big japanese brand had one back in the 90's... look for honda cbr 250rr - i think it was the best of them all - and it made 45hp at around 18'000rpm, without turbo of course!
I've got a cbr250rr 1991 and yeah new it would have made 45hp and go 200kph at 19.5k rpm although it spikes HP at somewhere near 15-16k rpm. I want to turbo it but the small cylinders would have a hard time compared to this which is either a 1 or 2 cylinder. And the availability for parts for the ninja will a lot more than for an old CBR 250rr
In the video Ninja 250 R
2 silinder
12000 rpm
Cbr250rr 90's
4 silinder
rpm 18000
best 250 ever, it screamed to a 19,000 rpm redline (there were two versions I think one may have been a lower redline but the one I know/want is 19k) unfortunately the only way to get it in the US is to import it via gray market from japan. you can get it cheaper from australia but the ones in australia have generally been thrashed to hell already. someday I'll own one and turbo that...45hp pre turbo/other performance mods :)
In Indonesia all bike above 250cc are subject to luxury tax, so a 600cc bike with a price tag of US$8K will be tagged around US$24K, not to mention other tax such as customs, import tax, et cetera. So it still cheaper to built a 250cc bike with a turbo than spend your money to buy a 600cc bike in Indonesia
@codyschuyler They did. But it didn't sell well 22 years ago and they haven't tried since.
it's called a CBR400, In the US there's only the CB-1. I have a CB-1. It makes about 62hp and jetted, tuned for racing, kerker exhaust.
the cb250 hornet 4cyl. that was a cool 250 with almost 17.000 rpm redline
yes unfortunately they are not very common even in my country, they are becoming very very rare. that's because when it was introduced the cb400 and cb600 hornet they became favorites. especially the 400
Really cool!
it's about about 26 hp stock, but with a performence exhaust, air filter etc it has about 30hp + a turbo that makes the number double on a normal engine means that it's 60 hp like on this 250cc engine.
That engine will blow up
@carsnwomen91 oh i forgot that factory numbers are crank instead of wheel. yep, 25 for one with a bit of wear and only a couple of more hp for one in top condition. jets+ exhaust only gets it around 30. that makes this turbo 250r which starts with almost the same engine pretty amazing. double the power! should be easy to get over 200kmh i hope, with a sprocket change
@codyschuyler they actually came out with the ninja 400r this year....
@chrikoo The limit ( in nsw atleast ) is 660 for learners, p1 and p2
Couple questions:
blow-through or draw through?
What carbs used?
How was almost 8:1 compression achieved?
mantap bro!!
@Fasesure93 Only a 2stroke that was limited life , might be powerful but can't have the same condition
@XboxTrimival Neither do you, a stock 250r has just over 30hp at the crank and delivers just over 26 at the rear wheel, so this turbo setup has produced some 32rwhp extra...
This is awesome. How fast does it go??
nice :) my stock zzr 250 got over 170kmh. this has 18hp more so i wonder if it could break 200kmh
@Stavrosqq nice point.
Pretty much, I'm Malaysian and a 600 fits me just right actually. Also, I wanted to get myself a 600. But turns out my license is restricted to 250.
So I got a 250 and pretty much happy with it. All I have to do now is use it for 2 years, Get a full license, then upgrade to a 600.
Hehe. No, man. I was making a joke because you meant to say "stock" (as in OEM or original part) but used"stuck" (as in being being trapped or caught) instead.
Good job on that ninja. Those little bikes are really sweet and economical as well.
I ride an old ninja ZX10. Cheers!
turbo 250r ninja... how much speed could it go??? (not stock trans pinions of course)
@nickcarullo But that 250 there has more bhp per litre than your bike, that 250 will have about 70hp at the crank for it to have 58hp at the rear wheel, your bike produces merely 37hp at the crank per 250ccm displacement.
@revadimarco Fact is this is home tuning. Only japan has an out of the box kit for the 250 availlable. so don't expect this in a bengkel near your home ;)
like what nick said, in Australia we have a law where by when you first get your license you are limited to a 250cc or below. Therefore we buy a 250cc for the first year and if we get bored of it we try and boost the power. Wish it wasn't the case and we could choose to die on an R1 quicker :)
I like the idea. Turbo 250 on e85, since the displacement limit for karting is 250cc (insurance), and e85 will help it run cooler.
dear goodness, I'd love to do this to a 250. Better handling and probably better acceleration than a 600. Maybe match a 600 super sport? Its similar power with half the weight.
A yamaha TZR 250 2 stroke, which has 50hp stock, would do between 170-180km/h, the race version of this bike which produces about 60hp does 190-200km/h
So that's an indication of how fast the Ninja 250r turbo will go, keep in mind the TZR250 is 20kg's lighter. And wont explode, eventually.
if im not mistaken they have made a 400r ninja already
@killbillkrishna well it does and it doesn't, a standard version of this bike struggles to get to the red line point in 6th gear but with all this extra torque and power it will be able to red line straight through the rpm's & gain an extra 1k rpm and gain about 10mph top end with standard gearing but i'm not sure how the internals of the bike would deal with that its possible with riding like that the insides would start to break down so the only option really would be to change the sprockets
0:44 Wow!!! Chair Tunning!!!
The Ninja 400r does exist, it was released in 2010.
well some states simply limit the cc such as WA, however others also restrict on a power to weight basis, such that someone could ride a gold wing, but not a cbr400..kinda weird but i guess it works. Also the power to weight ratio is done on the stock bike stats, so this still would be fine
i know that many people think its pointless to have a turbo on this bike only to make 58 hp but compared to how light the bike is then its useful. its always best to compare ratios.
double the hp is not useless at all :)
Hey guys i'm looking for a first time bike ... and I think this is the one for me. I'm just wondering though about the upgrades like this for the bike I prob wont be doing anything to the bike once i get it apart from change the exhaust etc but how do I go about getting upgrades like this for the bike in the near future? also if I had it tuned to work with a turbo id also want the bottom end changed so it can propperly take the new pressures it would receive for more power and longevity
what tail light kit is that? looks sick
hajar blehh...
@IJOHNBOY 164 hp (122 kW) at 9,500 rpm (at the crank).
At high RPM parallel twins sound like inline-4 bikes @ low-mid range RPM ngl
@arizotje ....This is a serious question..? ...would you like me to draw you a picture? the bikes I mention have the same hp ratio, therefore the comparison is accurate, the only difference being that the 2 stroke has that power stock and will thus have longer gears to accompany the power, but who cares if its 2 stroke or 4 stroke, that's entirely beyond the point.
@mikk999 your zzr has about 25whp, even if you add 20% over the whp for crank hp its still far from the factory claimed 40... still an awesome bike nonetheless, i had one for 3 years
Mantap
@fifielcoolio Because in alot of Asian countries they have such high taxes on bikes over a certain CC that this is cheaper. In places like Indonesia where this was done, you might have to pay close to $20k or more just to get a 600cc bike. So over there you will find that the Ninja 250 is actually king of the streets. They mod the ever living crap out of them and come up with things like this 58hp beauty that many of us in the USA would love to have.
well, how do you explain the ice melting + the ice got history as scientists can see
Did this run with stock pistons ?
@EchoNatek I have an Yamaha FZR 600..I sold the 125 in october of last year, haha
I'd be more than happy if my ninja 250r '09 FI had 50hp on the rear wheel
Which type of turbo you can used?
@blakecot This is what I was told by people over there as to why they do so many mods to 250's. On the ninjette.org forums we have people from over there and according to them it's just cheaper to mod a 250 and do turbo's then to get a 600+cc bike because of the taxes on them.
nice song !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Stavrosqq Sorry but a stock 1100XX does NOT have 165hp!
Would it work for my 06' Ninja 250?
Intercooler?
0:50... OMG so much POWAAAAAAAAA!!! XD
anyone know how this bike wil perform with this setup but the engine rebuilt with JE-spares STD 286cc 13:5:1 big bore pistons and ofc the engine re-built to take more punishment such as higher compression and higher rpm's?
So now it's as powerful as the 500R
power to weight boys.. power to weight..
...not to mention that parts, tires, insurance, ect are cheaper
I'd go turbo on my 250 in a heartbeat.
nice ride dude!
i just can't stop laugh with "MEGASQUIRT" hahahaa it such a porn name isn't it hahaha
58,2 whp......nice power for 250cc engine
@killbillkrishna nope it doesent increase the top speed, only amazing acceleration
They do make a 400r! check out there website.
wow sweet
how much faster does the turbo make it?
canggih
is that racefit growler
some people have restricted license. Unless they spend more money and time for a full license they are stuck with a 250.
Also its Indonesia. 250 is the perfect size cause its small. Good luck going around with a 600.
Well. Looks like I'm going shopping today.
Hi sir, I am about to look at injecting my 250gpx would you share pictures of the mod?
@XboxTrimival Get your facts straight! stock 600cc push 110 at the crank, stock kawa 250r push 31 at the crank.
The 58 hp here is at the wheel! So this is about 70 at the crank. Would beat a stock 600cc in the twisties.
How big of a turbo are they using?
@poopalarge why are you even comparing a 2 stroke to a 4 stroke???
i say get all u can out of it!.my hat is off to u guys.goes to show u that with some help there is morepower somewhere in that engine to be tapped.
pero que cuantos kilómetros por hora le sacaron ?
Then i can inform you that there is even put turbo on 50cc, so that piston are like peanut then? And if you browse the nett, you can even find turbo for most engiens!
Id like to turbo my bike. Has awesome low end power lacks top end
how much to put a turbo on a 2015 ninja 300
I second this! That's been my bike for 2 years.
I'm looking into ways to get more power out of it without upgrading to 600. (still getting a ZX-6R, but that doesn't change my plans for the 300; I'd rather mod it and have 2 funs bikes instead of 1)
+Jeff and the Quest It's cheaper than anyother little bike but still around 1k if you do your own labor but you can get more than this out of it. you can make 80whp all day and not open the motor although some studs wouldn't be a bad idea. really the weak link in the ex250 motor is the crank and they don't go unless one or more of two conditions outside of problems and that is don't rev pass 16k and don't make more than 110ftlbs then it won't snap at the timing gear. but turbo easy 100 efi depends on what you want but ecotrons is around 500 and your gonna want to swap out some extra cheap parts or microsquirt much nicer but alltogether your gonna be closer to 650. and pluming well go but a heatgun and some pvc and get to it. make sure you give your self at least 3 times displacement of plenum and youl make thins power at less rpm and 7-8psi on a rhb32/31. and more like 80whp at 18ish but then heat is a thing and you might want to look into meth injection instead of an air to air like they have here. very cheap to make preturbo and it keeps my Frankenstein cool at 25psi with 14:1cr and air oil cooling given I built the engine for it but still my head temps are hotter when I let it idle for along time. then it might get to 280 but as soon as I get some boosting in it drops to low 200s.
Anyone see any video of zxr250 4cylinder turbo?
What turbo is on that bike? ( as in if i wanted to get one like it what its full name and code?)
@panamastr hey wheres ur 1000cc? can i see it? can we see it? can all of youtube see it?? can u see u ride it on a track without u crashing or overtaken by a 600??
You install turbo?
hey can anyone tell me where i can this turbo from for my ninja 250 ...
yeah,suckers,but i actually love the face they make when i smoke them with a ''single cylinder 2stroke''
it doesnt change the top speed does it???
So they just limit the cc but not the hp/kW's?
Ninja nya keen bener,suaranya sampe nyaring banget,pasti knalpotnya mahal
which the maximum speed attained?
How's the fuel economy on turbo'd ninja?
keren Two thumb up
top speed?
Yup, she's my little wombat :)