This line of reasoning is very valid and worth considering. That is to say, we must see those who may defined as gifted as individual with special needs.
At times I Just wish giftedness was not such a taboo. I wish i wasn't supposed to feel guilty of thriving. I wish "society" wouldn't dismiss us as "bragging" when we really are not, and also dismiss us when we're complaining about our very real problem. When I entered middle School I had high hopes. I hoped in the School I was going to I would be actually able to make real friends, because There would be other kids like me, and they would understand me, and the teachers would too. I was told I was wrong, That I had absurd expectations, That others gifted kids were well integrated, That Giftedness doesn't really matter except for getting good grades and good grades are undeserved when you're gifted, That I was privilèged, That my comportment was wrong, That I was annoying and That no one cared about my "uninteresting" interests. That I should make an effort to be normal like everyone else, and That I should pass unremarked. I was bullied. Nah, harassed. Bullied is not strong enough of a term. Bullies told me I was alone, friendless, and That I should kill myself already. What I've lived through no one should have to live it.I'm in 12th grade, and I've just discovered I'd been lied to. That I wasted 5 years of my life believing lies. I discovered many other kids in my class were gifted, That they were my friends, and That they were definitely as quirky and socially awkward as me, because quirks and awkwardness come from overexcitablities, dyssynchronia and think process différences, and are characteristics of giftedness. That giftedness definitely matters in life, and That you Can talk about it with concerned friends. That they all have actually interesting interests That they talk about when between them, and That they really are more than the "normal Person" façade they put on. That we are actually sharing jokes together, That I get them and That they Are actually funny. That most of them were bullied in middle School, because of their différences, and thought they were the only ones because that's what they were told. That they told the teacher once they were happy That I was finally talking to them. I discovered I was not uninteresting as I was told. That I can actually have friends. And That I didn't have to adapt one bit to "the Real world", because Real friends only like the Real you. With quirks and all.This Is knowledge no gifted Child should be denied.
Very interesting indeed. Affirming the vulnerability of these special group as well as highlighting the diverse dimensions of which a 'gifted' individual may affected. Well done.
This happened to me I have HSP (extrovert) and Irlens syndrome...took 56 years to get it right, and have been through hell dealing with arrogant inept idiots that thought I was too stupid to understand how I felt and that it was all in my head.
I am in gifted and whenever I have to do a math problem on the board in front of class I overthink everything and everyone asks why I answered everything but the question
Cadee Haugsness I can relate I always overthink stuff and answer everything but the answer also I qualified as gifted and everyone always asks about it
I had some of the problems you talk about in this video. I figured out computer programming at 9 years old by reading manuals, but nothing in school made sense. I was thought to be gifted, but was totally lost in the gifted classes. But I did start my own business providing computer applications, so I must have learned something in school in the long run. I think I just had some learning curves that got in the way when I was a kid.
I was coded with a learning disability when I was a child, despite acing tests after I appeared to be playing rocket ship with my pencil during lessons. No one identified me as a gifted child or a 2e child, I didn't know I was a gifted child until my 30s, and I just discovered the term twice exceptional at 42 years of age. How has this knowledge evaded me and my family for so long?
I started talking when I was 3 months old. I started reading when I was 8 months old. When I was 3 years old I already knew how to read and write fluently, sum up, take away, the rivers, the countries, the presidents, the scientists, and before I was 5 I already had my own thoughts about reality, society, drugs, war and even death. When I was at school I was most of my time alone in the playground. I felt forced to be there and I had a huge weight on my shoulders. It felt like hell. I had great marks but started failing and getting into real trouble. A huge depression and phobias, anger... I finished school in the end even though I failed 7 subjects on my last year. I studied 4 degrees (couldn't finish them in the end), I understand 8 languages at different levels. I had a couple of jobs and again I had trouble there and couldn't fit in... After several years of complete isolation and depression I found my passion and my reason to live. I'm a voice actress, writer, photographer, artist, composer and I study mathematics and physics among other things on my free time. I do know my IQ (done the Weschler and orientative Mensa test as well) but I really don't care much about it. I don't believe a bunch of numbers define us. Only our thoughts and actions and fighting for what makes us push forward is what matters.
Carlota Milla Funes im so sorry.... :( im a parent to 2 2e girls... Finding a way to challenge and educate is hard... Th goodness 4 social media u can find more ppl like u and u found your passions
Why being "gifted" is actually a curse. Understanding and feeling things more strongly than most other people is really an aweful experience, especially when no one else seems to know what you are going through.
That might be true if you come to say you're profoundly gifted, I dont see how it's a curse for the moderate gifted - the ones who barerly pass the perimeter in giftedness causing them more trouble than functional life with lesser disturbances. I've read many comments featuring your idea of it being cursed, have seen responses to those comments aswell such as (I feel guilty for not being gifted) in return the gifted person says - (Dont worry you arent missing much, it's more of an issue than a gift) Its as if you're all embedded into the idea of owning giftedness, (My life is determinated by how gifted I am) + shouldn't gifted people be slower by the excruciating pressure mental disorders depression issues going on in your life or you must think substance addiction brain foginess unhygienic life style dosnt affect any of you due to the intensity of your giftedness.
Could this also be the reason I am so emotionally charged a lot of the time in stressful situations? I was accepted into California's GATE program a year or two before I had to move to another state. I was apparently 'too old' for the new state's Gifted tests, and the GATE assessment didn't pass over because of some arbitrary bullshit. Unsurprisingly, middle school is where everything started going downhill for me. In contrast to some of the wonderful stories you hear sometimes about kids who graduate early, I wasn't given the help I needed. No one 'caught on' to the realization that I couldn't make it in school. Even the psychiatrist I ended up seeing for three years didn't catch on- and I told her about the GATE program. I'm a dropout now, and there's almost nothing to do. I'm in a rut in life, and I can wholeheartedly blame my middle school experience for it.
Right. Doesn't matter. Use your talent. Make experiments. Many geniuses had hard lives but did not give up, paid their dues. Beethoven. Mozart. Paul Dirac...
(I am a 'gifted' child on here) This is very true, luckily I have been accelerated three years in education, and at age 11, am in senior school (and extension) :). I would say these attributes are true; I am quite sensitive to some things, I got really bored in school (hence acceleration), etc. I am not _that_ extreme in terms of sensitivity, allergies (none) asthma (none) etc. though haha
When i was young nobody knew about this. But i would have liked tot skip classes or work on my own level. I was a frustrated, angry little girl who had tot go to school to learn.... nothing. Bah
Oh my god this reminds me of my primary school days lol my teacher Mr.Henry was always puzzled with why I was so defiant and refused to do the work when he knew I could. It was boring lol
I'm gifted in English, math and history but I have a speech and wrinting disorder. I tend to leave out words or talk to fast that no one will understand me and my sister would have to translate. Plus I have both asthma and allergies. I am very sensitive to loud nioses and people say it just anxiety which I admit I have but I think there is more to the iceberg. I took speech classes during math and gifted English in English. Nobody taught me comma or clauses or semi colon cuase I had to do speech class and advanced English. Mutiple time I would cry myself to sleep be cuase of stress and it's all because of being " gifted". Being gifted has more cons than pros which leads to mental disoders and trouble but it's just because of how they are being taught.
I think it sucks everywhere because we just aren't like other people. We don't think the same way. We don't look at the world the same way. Our brains don't process inputs the same way. We just don't fit in. Fortunately, now we have the internet and we can find and build communities online for support.
Talio Divino gifted and accelerated classes are not the same thing. You have to be gifted in order to be put in a specifically gifted class or program, at least in LA.
True, and sometimes an accelerated course just isn’t the best option for a gifted student, I believe everyone has their gifts including myself but the traditional model of education isn’t right for me. I learn and process information differently and the corrupt bureaucracy of public education won’t realize this.
i've been reading about this a lot recently, and it seems like i might have this. a lot of articles and things mentioned being bothered by the seams on socks, and tags, both of those have always bothered me a lot. when i was little i spent a lot of time adjusting my socks so that the seam wouldn't bother me. as well, i cannot use super soft tissues, and prefer rough ones, because the texture of tissues for some reason makes me extremely uncomfortable and bothers me. also, i get very exited over different smells, or recognizing one, or if i have a piece of fabric or something that i like the texture of, i'll hold on to it and use as a crutch in public situations
Omg yes when I was little I had a huge problem with socks I just couldn’t stand them if they weren’t 100% cotton and if my hand touched my mothers car seat I would freak out and want to cry just because of the material
I dont understand people who act out due to boredom. There is so much to do and wonder about in this world. A person with even an ounce of creativity will find ample ways to keep themselves occupied.
Yes, but, in schools You don't always have the choice. I spend nearly all of my classes reading or scribbling etcætera, but not all teachers accepted it. The worst are teachers who think You can't multitask, and if i'm doing something else i mustn't be listening (though teachers end up surprised when they ask what they Just said to prove i'm not listening, and I answer right). And even if your teachers are accepting, You may feel like you're wasting your time in schools scribbling when You could do so much more, including actually Learning things, like you're supposed to do in schools...
When I was a child, I didn't have friends. I have depression, OCPD, and I'm socially awkward. My perfectionism affects my video game playing, as I'm either resetting save files or methodically planning every step as I progress. In high school, I excelled in science and mathematics, but I failed English and history. I have never needed to use a calculator. I loved learning, but I wasn't being challenged enough. At the age of 16, I took 3 IQ tests over the course of about 9 months. My results were 135, 124, 115, in that order. I was very confused about these test scores. Over the years, I have been systematically improving my ability to write and articulate my advanced knowledge of physics. When I first read about giftedness I was shocked to discover that a gifted person taking a standardized test is not unlike an adult taking a test for children, exaggerated by common core. Today, I'm preparing to write a scientific paper, inspired by a recurring nightmare.
I'm 95th percentile, and trust me when I say this; IQ does not mean a lot. I'm currently in High School and I have decided to drop out in order to pursue my career in the Trades early. Now I won't be stuck with a bunch of idiots for the rest of my life, keeping me from moving forward. Good Luck!
I know this is a bit late, the iq test that I have taken with my psychologist was much higher than the 135 that you scored. I will not say how.much bcs of some reasons. I have not shown any abilities like yours. I was not that good at math and science. I did not display any "gifted" ability at all , but I scored really high. I have seen many people with lower iq than mine be able to do many things that I just cant. My point is that I believe that even if you have really high iq and another person has lower iq than you, it does not mean that you will be better. I see it like potential that may or may not manifest. I scored in the 99.99 percentile but I did not manifest any special ability. But a friend of mine that scored 130 is much better at science and math.
People used to say I was gifted but now I’m pretty sure I’m actually a ‘smaller version’ of savant syndrome. I’m not impressive with math but I have different sensory experiences and can remember facts about my interests quite easily!
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School is just there to teach us to take orders, to follow schedules set for us by our superiors, and to make sure we learn to act relatively normal so we are employable and useful without being too self reliant or forward thinking so we cause problems. School isn’t there to teach us to think or be happy: that’s crazy! Plus there’s such a long precedent of ignoring bored smart kids, wouldn’t it be best to just stick with tradition? Why rock the boat? Wouldn’t want to splash everybody else enjoying the nice boat ride :P
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Does anyone know any place that I could go to talk with other gifted people? Preferable something like an internet forum or something? Would be really helpful.
Yes, you should check out the facebook group 'Intergifted'. It's a wonderful way to connect with other gifted people. I've found it to be so validating.
Hmmmm...in my experience, the ASD message here is indeed to the detriment of children. Students whose parents want to make the ASD experience fall under the umbrella of their Gifted experience...these kids suffer the most! With ASD interventions in place, so much of the sensory, the intensity, and rigidity can be coped with in a healthy manner through appropriate interventions. Don't turn away from the diagnosis, saying that it is the Giftedness that creates the appearance of ASD. This is to the child's detriment, not only today, but into all the future days when the parent will no longer be here... The diagnosis is just the ticket for the legal right to the interventions the child needs and deserves. I've witnessed it set my son free. And, as a Gifted teacher (based on full scale IQ 130+), I've witnessed some of my Gifted students suffer through each day of school because they don't have the interventions needed to address the ASD aspect of their genuine being. That's why I ran, not walked, to get my son the diagnosis when I saw the very same attributes in him. And the interventions for ASD have not affected his Gifted IQ in the least, it has just set him free from the sensory, the intensity, the rigidity chains that bound him. It didn't remove them, but it allowed him to proceed through life with healthy ways to cope. He is now flexible, he now has tools to deal with sensory overload that actually work, he has words to express the intensity so we can work on it externally, not just suffer from it internally. Obviously our life is never close to perfect, but oh how I wish I could give my students with Giftedness plus undiagnosed ASD these same chances. But I can't, because the parents don't want to inquire further about the ASD possibility. This is speaking through my experience, my truth, as both a human with a family full of amazing and precious Aspies plus a teacher of the genuinely Gifted.
Bcs they are gifted does not mean that they have mastered the subject and that is the reason they are bored. Many can very well be bored bcs the subject is not challenging at all. This causes the person to be bored and fail the class. If you get bored bcs something is really easy, then you do not have an interest in that subject and do not learn it at all.
Because unfortunately they're labelled as disabled and struggle to make it through the education system because the cognitive issues I'm not even educated I left school at the end of year 10 but I am a high functioning autism I understand exactly what's being said here clearly you need to get more education so that you can understand it with ur neourotypical brain. There's an insight
That way of thinking is only for the underachievers who want to feel like something "more" or "better", even though they are not. It is also the way of thinking of those controllers of society that would like to see everyone numbed and dumbed. Reality is that some people do excel in some areas, or many areas, more than others. Just the way it is. And just as the very low I.Q. people, or those with various disabilities need different and extra teaching or help in general, so to do those on the higher end of the spectrum. If everyone is forced to pretend we are all the same, there will be, and currently are, many problems.
Is it weird that I am highly gifted and I act like and I am considered as a normal person? I'm in a gifted program but I'm not any different than the all other kids!
Just because you take advanced, accelerated, and gifted classes doesn't mean you are diagnosed Gifted. It's not the same thing as being super smart. It's a specific psychiatric diagnosis that has several components to it including high intelligence.
I'm autistic, not gifted and really liked most of the talk but whilst I am not gifted I don't think that no autistic person is gifted or no gifted person is autistic. Maybe I just misunderstood the "many of them are diagnosed with autism whilst it isn't true at all" part but to me it sounds like "no gifted person is autistic" and vice versa. But maybe she just wanted to make clear that a lot of gifted people are misdiagnosed with autism
Are they, though? Misdiagnosed with autism? Everything I've rrad about the so called gifted diagnosis screams autism. And not only autism, but autism with ADHD. That's what I have, and I fit the twice exceptional profile exactly. 2e is autism with ADHD. The sooner everyone can put their egos aside and recognize that, the sooner we can prevent absolute horror stories like my life.
i think everyone is gifted and unique and our schools need to learn to accommodate each everyone of us as individuals instead of all of us trying to fit into a narrow definition of intelligence.
I agree that there are people who are gifted in all areas. I agree with everything you said. I don't think I wrote my comment well. I especially agree with the last thing you said "What school need to do is to understand what gifted really is and support each student and every single student average (above, bellow and in between)". I guess I got insecure when she was talking about gifted because I've never felt brilliant
Our schools. These legal child abusers ARE NOT my schools. We don't get education you do it yourself. Leftside brain prison camps and see them brag about progression. I have had enough of this bullshit. Learn what to think not how to think and learn to remember.
I hear this "everyone is gifted" line a lot from educators who don't seem to understand the concept of a normal distribution, or multiple intelligences. I think it's a politically correct stance which refuses to recognize that some people can achieve much higher heights of intellectual pursuit than others. I think you are conflating "gifted" with "unique", so the very concept of gifted becomes muddled.
As someone who is gifted and twice exceptional I can tell you that you misunderstand "gifted". You saying everyone is gifted is like saying everyone is autistic. Did you listen to and comprehend the video? I'm not trying to be aggressive or talk down to you. To be diagnosed as gifted you have to have specific symptoms, same with autism. Only certain people are "gifted" in a medical/psychological sense. Gifted doesn't always mean you are smarter or have a higher IQ. When someone is as unfortunate as myself, gifted with ADHD, it is more of a curse.
I wonder if finding handwriting to be not only boring, but physically painful, and to try to avoid it at all costs using stratégies is a characteristic of giftedness... Personally, I couldn't write fluently before âge 10, still can't use a ballpen, write more than 10 lines with the same pen, or more than 3,5 pages at all. I'm in 12th grade and my hand regularly overheats and ceases functionning in the middle of exams. I can't even hold a pen after That. And I end up writing half as many pages as others, even though I spend more time. However, I'm fascinated by writing, and calligraphy and other alphabet always interested me. But when I have to write, I Just can't,
my parents didnt knew that i have very high iq and have very low emotional and social abilities,untill i developted OCD and several other anxity problems that i needed a doctor.and doctor told my parents.However i dont thing that doctor is right about me.i am not smart i am just a normal guy with normal intelligence.i never studied astronomy at age of 5 or 6.i started studying astronomy at age of 16 or 17.
same here, let's hope we can get it all together, and finally use it for good, I realised it recently too and kinda wish I could of known earlier, teachers could have known about it and change their ways with us. I'm glad I've found this video too, I can finally do something about it confidently.
I got a gifted letter telling me I was able to join gifted classes but idk what to do and I don't even think I'm gifted tbh and also don't like school and anti social as well have asthma
I am gifted my bf is gifted and our son is gifted definitely more on my level than his sister my son was calling me by my first name at 10 months old Ericka he also knew more about the solar system than I did at the age of 2 at 9 he is into manifesting, energy, the earth, universe meditation this is a kid who has non stop questions wants to know how much water is in the ocean by weight Kilograms down to grams this kid wants details about details and will make up a random question about air just to get answers he is so curious about everything. His teacher wants to place him in GATE. Which lead me here, just a over protective mom doing some research.
i was labeled a slew of disabilities aspergers for studying geography ocd odd bipolardepresed for enforcing human rightshumanitarian criminal refugee constitutional law
All kids are special but not all kids are gifted. You have to take a four hour exam and your IQ has to be higher than the average persons IQ. As a gifted child myself i can say that the children in regular education learn way differently than kids classified as a gifted child. If you put a regular educated child in a gifted class they will suffer its the same if you put a gifted child in regular education.
Agree with Adriana - and the mindset that all kids are gifted (as defined by professionals in psychology and education) actually can cause damage to those who don't have special needs addressed because of that mindset. But I also agree that all children are special.
The term "Gifted" is an unfortunate one that stuck. You're correct, all children have gifts. "Gifted" is a psychologically defined term that cannot and should not be used on all children.
The best way to summarize gifted children is that their brains and development are different than the average person. Gifted kids tend to figure out the world and outside skills such as reading and science while their peers are learning social skills and emotional intelligence. Gifted kids learn these things later in life, albeit a lot differently because at that point you're expected to have social skills figured out when you're 20.
I can relate.... You end up feeling like an Outsider. Silly people ridicule what they don't understand, and call you different. Sad ppl
Oh my God you describe my personality as a child 🥺 I remember a lot of bright lights whenever I try to remember a past memory
This line of reasoning is very valid and worth considering. That is to say, we must see those who may defined as gifted as individual with special needs.
At times I Just wish giftedness was not such a taboo. I wish i wasn't supposed to feel guilty of thriving. I wish "society" wouldn't dismiss us as "bragging" when we really are not, and also dismiss us when we're complaining about our very real problem. When I entered middle School I had high hopes. I hoped in the School I was going to I would be actually able to make real friends, because There would be other kids like me, and they would understand me, and the teachers would too.
I was told I was wrong, That I had absurd expectations, That others gifted kids were well integrated, That Giftedness doesn't really matter except for getting good grades and good grades are undeserved when you're gifted, That I was privilèged, That my comportment was wrong, That I was annoying and That no one cared about my "uninteresting" interests. That I should make an effort to be normal like everyone else, and That I should pass unremarked. I was bullied. Nah, harassed. Bullied is not strong enough of a term. Bullies told me I was alone, friendless, and That I should kill myself already. What I've lived through no one should have to live it.I'm in 12th grade, and I've just discovered I'd been lied to. That I wasted 5 years of my life believing lies. I discovered many other kids in my class were gifted, That they were my friends, and That they were definitely as quirky and socially awkward as me, because quirks and awkwardness come from overexcitablities, dyssynchronia and think process différences, and are characteristics of giftedness. That giftedness definitely matters in life, and That you Can talk about it with concerned friends. That they all have actually interesting interests That they talk about when between them, and That they really are more than the "normal Person" façade they put on. That we are actually sharing jokes together, That I get them and That they Are actually funny. That most of them were bullied in middle School, because of their différences, and thought they were the only ones because that's what they were told. That they told the teacher once they were happy That I was finally talking to them. I discovered I was not uninteresting as I was told. That I can actually have friends. And That I didn't have to adapt one bit to "the Real world", because Real friends only like the Real you. With quirks and all.This Is knowledge no gifted Child should be denied.
As someone with a gifted education background, I really resonate with this speech. It is well done and addresses many sticky topics tactfully.
Very interesting indeed. Affirming the vulnerability of these special group as well as highlighting the diverse dimensions of which a 'gifted' individual may affected. Well done.
This happened to me I have HSP (extrovert) and Irlens syndrome...took 56 years to get it right, and have been through hell dealing with arrogant inept idiots that thought I was too stupid to understand how I felt and that it was all in my head.
Here you are now proving there’s light at the end of the tunnel!
I am in gifted and whenever I have to do a math problem on the board in front of class I overthink everything and everyone asks why I answered everything but the question
Cadee Haugsness I can relate I always overthink stuff and answer everything but the answer also I qualified as gifted and everyone always asks about it
I am about to be in gifted can somebody tell me what it’s like
I had some of the problems you talk about in this video. I figured out computer programming at 9 years old by reading manuals, but nothing in school made sense. I was thought to be gifted, but was totally lost in the gifted classes. But I did start my own business providing computer applications, so I must have learned something in school in the long run. I think I just had some learning curves that got in the way when I was a kid.
I got you
Very interesting.
I was coded with a learning disability when I was a child, despite acing tests after I appeared to be playing rocket ship with my pencil during lessons. No one identified me as a gifted child or a 2e child, I didn't know I was a gifted child until my 30s, and I just discovered the term twice exceptional at 42 years of age. How has this knowledge evaded me and my family for so long?
I started talking when I was 3 months old. I started reading when I was 8 months old. When I was 3 years old I already knew how to read and write fluently, sum up, take away, the rivers, the countries, the presidents, the scientists, and before I was 5 I already had my own thoughts about reality, society, drugs, war and even death.
When I was at school I was most of my time alone in the playground. I felt forced to be there and I had a huge weight on my shoulders. It felt like hell. I had great marks but started failing and getting into real trouble. A huge depression and phobias, anger...
I finished school in the end even though I failed 7 subjects on my last year.
I studied 4 degrees (couldn't finish them in the end), I understand 8 languages at different levels.
I had a couple of jobs and again I had trouble there and couldn't fit in...
After several years of complete isolation and depression I found my passion and my reason to live. I'm a voice actress, writer, photographer, artist, composer and I study mathematics and physics among other things on my free time.
I do know my IQ (done the Weschler and orientative Mensa test as well) but I really don't care much about it.
I don't believe a bunch of numbers define us.
Only our thoughts and actions and fighting for what makes us push forward is what matters.
Carlota Milla Funes im so sorry.... :( im a parent to 2 2e girls... Finding a way to challenge and educate is hard... Th goodness 4 social media u can find more ppl like u and u found your passions
3 month olds can barely hold their head up while on their stomach.
... fighting for what makes us push forward.... Yes.
2E for this cat who was diagnosed as an adult. Gifted and ADHD. And asthma too. The things l learned from this talk. :)
I'm worried I've had undiagnosed ADD my whole life.
if i really want to learn something i can learn it within 2 weeks
Pretty long time to learn how to tie your shoe or make jello, but quite impressive for astrophysics or hostage negotiation ;)
2 weeks i enough time for me too
take up jiu jitsu then come back and tell me that.. lmao
without listening through this, gonna say gifted is close to the spectrum
Why being "gifted" is actually a curse. Understanding and feeling things more strongly than most other people is really an aweful experience, especially when no one else seems to know what you are going through.
That might be true if you come to say you're profoundly gifted, I dont see how it's a curse for the moderate gifted - the ones who barerly pass the perimeter in giftedness causing them more trouble than functional life with lesser disturbances. I've read many comments featuring your idea of it being cursed, have seen responses to those comments aswell such as (I feel guilty for not being gifted) in return the gifted person says - (Dont worry you arent missing much, it's more of an issue than a gift) Its as if you're all embedded into the idea of owning giftedness, (My life is determinated by how gifted I am) + shouldn't gifted people be slower by the excruciating pressure mental disorders depression issues going on in your life or you must think substance addiction brain foginess unhygienic life style dosnt affect any of you due to the intensity of your giftedness.
Could this also be the reason I am so emotionally charged a lot of the time in stressful situations? I was accepted into California's GATE program a year or two before I had to move to another state. I was apparently 'too old' for the new state's Gifted tests, and the GATE assessment didn't pass over because of some arbitrary bullshit. Unsurprisingly, middle school is where everything started going downhill for me. In contrast to some of the wonderful stories you hear sometimes about kids who graduate early, I wasn't given the help I needed. No one 'caught on' to the realization that I couldn't make it in school. Even the psychiatrist I ended up seeing for three years didn't catch on- and I told her about the GATE program. I'm a dropout now, and there's almost nothing to do. I'm in a rut in life, and I can wholeheartedly blame my middle school experience for it.
Right. Doesn't matter. Use your talent. Make experiments. Many geniuses had hard lives but did not give up, paid their dues. Beethoven. Mozart. Paul Dirac...
(I am a 'gifted' child on here)
This is very true, luckily I have been accelerated three years in education, and at age 11, am in senior school (and extension) :). I would say these attributes are true; I am quite sensitive to some things, I got really bored in school (hence acceleration), etc.
I am not _that_ extreme in terms of sensitivity, allergies (none) asthma (none) etc. though haha
When i was young nobody knew about this. But i would have liked tot skip classes or work on my own level. I was a frustrated, angry little girl who had tot go to school to learn.... nothing. Bah
I have asthma and allergies and I aswell get really bored in school and miss so much days
Oh my god this reminds me of my primary school days lol my teacher Mr.Henry was always puzzled with why I was so defiant and refused to do the work when he knew I could. It was boring lol
I'm gifted in English, math and history but I have a speech and wrinting disorder. I tend to leave out words or talk to fast that no one will understand me and my sister would have to translate. Plus I have both asthma and allergies. I am very sensitive to loud nioses and people say it just anxiety which I admit I have but I think there is more to the iceberg. I took speech classes during math and gifted English in English. Nobody taught me comma or clauses or semi colon cuase I had to do speech class and advanced English. Mutiple time I would cry myself to sleep be cuase of stress and it's all because of being " gifted". Being gifted has more cons than pros which leads to mental disoders and trouble but it's just because of how they are being taught.
😭 the sense of relief after seeing this video is overwhelming me. This is me (2e)
Im gifted and it sucks its almost like a curse, specially when u live in a very conservative country like mine (mexico)
I think it sucks everywhere because we just aren't like other people. We don't think the same way. We don't look at the world the same way. Our brains don't process inputs the same way. We just don't fit in. Fortunately, now we have the internet and we can find and build communities online for support.
I understand you ... I'm afraid I might just die like this sometimes
Excellent. I know assorted geniuses. All different. All strange in fascinating ways. Let them be themselves.
Just want to point out, that being in gifted or accelerated classes at school, does not necessarily mean you yourself are gifted.
yes that's so true because children have that in their mind they are gifted because they are in that class
Talio Divino gifted and accelerated classes are not the same thing. You have to be gifted in order to be put in a specifically gifted class or program, at least in LA.
Why would one be in a gifted class, unless they were tested and designated to be there?
The Outlander their parents donated a lot to the school. (More of a private school issue though.)
True, and sometimes an accelerated course just isn’t the best option for a gifted student, I believe everyone has their gifts including myself but the traditional model of education isn’t right for me. I learn and process information differently and the corrupt bureaucracy of public education won’t realize this.
i've been reading about this a lot recently, and it seems like i might have this. a lot of articles and things mentioned being bothered by the seams on socks, and tags, both of those have always bothered me a lot. when i was little i spent a lot of time adjusting my socks so that the seam wouldn't bother me. as well, i cannot use super soft tissues, and prefer rough ones, because the texture of tissues for some reason makes me extremely uncomfortable and bothers me. also, i get very exited over different smells, or recognizing one, or if i have a piece of fabric or something that i like the texture of, i'll hold on to it and use as a crutch in public situations
Omg yes when I was little I had a huge problem with socks I just couldn’t stand them if they weren’t 100% cotton and if my hand touched my mothers car seat I would freak out and want to cry just because of the material
The hilarious part of most of the comments are related to flexing and how gifted they are. No, you're not.
I dont understand people who act out due to boredom. There is so much to do and wonder about in this world. A person with even an ounce of creativity will find ample ways to keep themselves occupied.
Yes, but, in schools You don't always have the choice. I spend nearly all of my classes reading or scribbling etcætera, but not all teachers accepted it. The worst are teachers who think You can't multitask, and if i'm doing something else i mustn't be listening (though teachers end up surprised when they ask what they Just said to prove i'm not listening, and I answer right).
And even if your teachers are accepting, You may feel like you're wasting your time in schools scribbling when You could do so much more, including actually Learning things, like you're supposed to do in schools...
When I was a child, I didn't have friends. I have depression, OCPD, and I'm socially awkward. My perfectionism affects my video game playing, as I'm either resetting save files or methodically planning every step as I progress. In high school, I excelled in science and mathematics, but I failed English and history. I have never needed to use a calculator. I loved learning, but I wasn't being challenged enough. At the age of 16, I took 3 IQ tests over the course of about 9 months. My results were 135, 124, 115, in that order. I was very confused about these test scores. Over the years, I have been systematically improving my ability to write and articulate my advanced knowledge of physics. When I first read about giftedness I was shocked to discover that a gifted person taking a standardized test is not unlike an adult taking a test for children, exaggerated by common core. Today, I'm preparing to write a scientific paper, inspired by a recurring nightmare.
I'm 95th percentile, and trust me when I say this; IQ does not mean a lot. I'm currently in High School and I have decided to drop out in order to pursue my career in the Trades early. Now I won't be stuck with a bunch of idiots for the rest of my life, keeping me from moving forward. Good Luck!
I know this is a bit late, the iq test that I have taken with my psychologist was much higher than the 135 that you scored. I will not say how.much bcs of some reasons. I have not shown any abilities like yours. I was not that good at math and science. I did not display any "gifted" ability at all , but I scored really high. I have seen many people with lower iq than mine be able to do many things that I just cant. My point is that I believe that even if you have really high iq and another person has lower iq than you, it does not mean that you will be better. I see it like potential that may or may not manifest. I scored in the 99.99 percentile but I did not manifest any special ability. But a friend of mine that scored 130 is much better at science and math.
People used to say I was gifted but now I’m pretty sure I’m actually a ‘smaller version’ of savant syndrome. I’m not impressive with math but I have different sensory experiences and can remember facts about my interests quite easily!
(Not trying to be one of those people who act super smart for attention, just saying some people are different, especially with sensory stuffs)
When Smart/gifted children are bored because Teacher is helping Students catchup. Bored Smart Students will add classroom distraction. Parent/Teacher should supersize their studies with Free MOOC courses from World Mentoring Academy or EdX [Harvard & MIT], and if students take the 34 CLEP's[Collegeboard AP's] which have no min age req [k6+] can earn College credit.
School is just there to teach us to take orders, to follow schedules set for us by our superiors, and to make sure we learn to act relatively normal so we are employable and useful without being too self reliant or forward thinking so we cause problems. School isn’t there to teach us to think or be happy: that’s crazy!
Plus there’s such a long precedent of ignoring bored smart kids, wouldn’t it be best to just stick with tradition? Why rock the boat? Wouldn’t want to splash everybody else enjoying the nice boat ride :P
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I hope you can start over and get going again.
Does anyone know any place that I could go to talk with other gifted people? Preferable something like an internet forum or something? Would be really helpful.
There are "Gifted Adults" and "Intellectually Gifted Adults" on Facebook. Both are Closed Groups so just ask to join...
InterGifted is another Facebook group and more international in nature.
Kenneth Trueman Thanks :)
Yes, you should check out the facebook group 'Intergifted'. It's a wonderful way to connect with other gifted people. I've found it to be so validating.
Beth Heinecamp It seems to be a page not a group?
Hmmmm...in my experience, the ASD message here is indeed to the detriment of children. Students whose parents want to make the ASD experience fall under the umbrella of their Gifted experience...these kids suffer the most! With ASD interventions in place, so much of the sensory, the intensity, and rigidity can be coped with in a healthy manner through appropriate interventions. Don't turn away from the diagnosis, saying that it is the Giftedness that creates the appearance of ASD. This is to the child's detriment, not only today, but into all the future days when the parent will no longer be here... The diagnosis is just the ticket for the legal right to the interventions the child needs and deserves. I've witnessed it set my son free. And, as a Gifted teacher (based on full scale IQ 130+), I've witnessed some of my Gifted students suffer through each day of school because they don't have the interventions needed to address the ASD aspect of their genuine being. That's why I ran, not walked, to get my son the diagnosis when I saw the very same attributes in him. And the interventions for ASD have not affected his Gifted IQ in the least, it has just set him free from the sensory, the intensity, the rigidity chains that bound him. It didn't remove them, but it allowed him to proceed through life with healthy ways to cope. He is now flexible, he now has tools to deal with sensory overload that actually work, he has words to express the intensity so we can work on it externally, not just suffer from it internally. Obviously our life is never close to perfect, but oh how I wish I could give my students with Giftedness plus undiagnosed ASD these same chances. But I can't, because the parents don't want to inquire further about the ASD possibility. This is speaking through my experience, my truth, as both a human with a family full of amazing and precious Aspies plus a teacher of the genuinely Gifted.
Totally agree with you!
When I was six, I knew long division, when I was 10 I got 99 for computing 99 math but barely passed reading
You wanna cookie?
You are also describing an HSP.
Good presentation
Good presentation.
Who else is advanced gifted ?
Uneyvis Morales I’m gifted at taking things personally
Can someone be GT in the arts ? I’m a little slower at working than others but I do make good grades but I’m strongest in the art side .
Maybe you have already figured it out but yes. You can be gifted in any kinds of visual arts and not being the brightest in academics.
Bcs they are gifted does not mean that they have mastered the subject and that is the reason they are bored. Many can very well be bored bcs the subject is not challenging at all. This causes the person to be bored and fail the class. If you get bored bcs something is really easy, then you do not have an interest in that subject and do not learn it at all.
Because unfortunately they're labelled as disabled and struggle to make it through the education system because the cognitive issues I'm not even educated I left school at the end of year 10 but I am a high functioning autism I understand exactly what's being said here clearly you need to get more education so that you can understand it with ur neourotypical brain. There's an insight
I have gifted classes and is taking an accelerated math class. I have all A's and feel no pressure. However, I don't feel gifted or special at all :(
Yes. My brain knows, but not me. It doesn't make sense but it just happens.
you are gifted I think yes
Sara Huang i do to and i am about to go to gifted classes as well
That way of thinking is only for the underachievers who want to feel like something "more" or "better", even though they are not. It is also the way of thinking of those controllers of society that would like to see everyone numbed and dumbed. Reality is that some people do excel in some areas, or many areas, more than others. Just the way it is. And just as the very low I.Q. people, or those with various disabilities need different and extra teaching or help in general, so to do those on the higher end of the spectrum. If everyone is forced to pretend we are all the same, there will be, and currently are, many problems.
Is it weird that I am highly gifted and I act like and I am considered as a normal person? I'm in a gifted program but I'm not any different than the all other kids!
Just because you take advanced, accelerated, and gifted classes doesn't mean you are diagnosed Gifted. It's not the same thing as being super smart. It's a specific psychiatric diagnosis that has several components to it including high intelligence.
@@prterrell can you elaborate please
0:30 I know more astronomy than math too!
I'm autistic, not gifted and really liked most of the talk but whilst I am not gifted I don't think that no autistic person is gifted or no gifted person is autistic. Maybe I just misunderstood the "many of them are diagnosed with autism whilst it isn't true at all" part but to me it sounds like "no gifted person is autistic" and vice versa. But maybe she just wanted to make clear that a lot of gifted people are misdiagnosed with autism
The last, yes.
Are they, though? Misdiagnosed with autism? Everything I've rrad about the so called gifted diagnosis screams autism. And not only autism, but autism with ADHD. That's what I have, and I fit the twice exceptional profile exactly. 2e is autism with ADHD. The sooner everyone can put their egos aside and recognize that, the sooner we can prevent absolute horror stories like my life.
i think everyone is gifted and unique and our schools need to learn to accommodate each everyone of us as individuals instead of all of us trying to fit into a narrow definition of intelligence.
I agree that there are people who are gifted in all areas. I agree with everything you said. I don't think I wrote my comment well. I especially agree with the last thing you said "What school need to do is to understand what gifted really is and support each student and every single student average (above, bellow and in between)". I guess I got insecure when she was talking about gifted because I've never felt brilliant
Our schools. These legal child abusers ARE NOT my schools. We don't get education you do it yourself. Leftside brain prison camps and see them brag about progression. I have had enough of this bullshit. Learn what to think not how to think and learn to remember.
I hear this "everyone is gifted" line a lot from educators who don't seem to understand the concept of a normal distribution, or multiple intelligences. I think it's a politically correct stance which refuses to recognize that some people can achieve much higher heights of intellectual pursuit than others. I think you are conflating "gifted" with "unique", so the very concept of gifted becomes muddled.
As someone who is gifted and twice exceptional I can tell you that you misunderstand "gifted". You saying everyone is gifted is like saying everyone is autistic.
Did you listen to and comprehend the video? I'm not trying to be aggressive or talk down to you.
To be diagnosed as gifted you have to have specific symptoms, same with autism. Only certain people are "gifted" in a medical/psychological sense.
Gifted doesn't always mean you are smarter or have a higher IQ. When someone is as unfortunate as myself, gifted with ADHD, it is more of a curse.
Gifted are supposed to be in seperate classes because if people put us the gifted kids in normal classes it will be too easy and we will be bored.
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This whole video is just coming for me. My handwriting is NOT that illegible! ... okay maybe it is.
I wonder if finding handwriting to be not only boring, but physically painful, and to try to avoid it at all costs using stratégies is a characteristic of giftedness...
Personally, I couldn't write fluently before âge 10, still can't use a ballpen, write more than 10 lines with the same pen, or more than 3,5 pages at all. I'm in 12th grade and my hand regularly overheats and ceases functionning in the middle of exams. I can't even hold a pen after That.
And I end up writing half as many pages as others, even though I spend more time. However, I'm fascinated by writing, and calligraphy and other alphabet always interested me. But when I have to write, I Just can't,
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So that's why I cut the tags off my T-shirts.
my parents didnt knew that i have very high iq and have very low emotional and social abilities,untill i developted OCD and several other anxity problems that i needed a doctor.and doctor told my parents.However i dont thing that doctor is right about me.i am not smart i am just a normal guy with normal intelligence.i never studied astronomy at age of 5 or 6.i started studying astronomy at age of 16 or 17.
same here, let's hope we can get it all together, and finally use it for good, I realised it recently too and kinda wish I could of known earlier, teachers could have known about it and change their ways with us. I'm glad I've found this video too, I can finally do something about it confidently.
I got a gifted letter telling me I was able to join gifted classes but idk what to do and I don't even think I'm gifted tbh and also don't like school and anti social as well have asthma
Hey i want one
A lot of gifted kids have thing like autism and OCd (ADHD and some others)
aww wow
I am the greatest and most gifted human in the universe. Bow to me.
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being gifted has nothing to do with some imperfections or defects in the gifted;
I am gifted my bf is gifted and our son is gifted definitely more on my level than his sister my son was calling me by my first name at 10 months old Ericka he also knew more about the solar system than I did at the age of 2 at 9 he is into manifesting, energy, the earth, universe meditation this is a kid who has non stop questions wants to know how much water is in the ocean by weight Kilograms down to grams this kid wants details about details and will make up a random question about air just to get answers he is so curious about everything. His teacher wants to place him in GATE. Which lead me here, just a over protective mom doing some research.
i was labeled a slew of disabilities aspergers for studying geography ocd odd bipolardepresed for enforcing human rightshumanitarian criminal refugee constitutional law
You won't be labeled an expert in English or grammar, that's for sure.
Off topic but she sounds like thatveganteacher
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EINSTEIN WAS GIFTED?????ALL CHILDREN ARE GIFTED AND SPECIAL!!!!!!!!
All kids are special but not all kids are gifted. You have to take a four hour exam and your IQ has to be higher than the average persons IQ. As a gifted child myself i can say that the children in regular education learn way differently than kids classified as a gifted child. If you put a regular educated child in a gifted class they will suffer its the same if you put a gifted child in regular education.
Agree with Adriana - and the mindset that all kids are gifted (as defined by professionals in psychology and education) actually can cause damage to those who don't have special needs addressed because of that mindset. But I also agree that all children are special.
The term "Gifted" is an unfortunate one that stuck. You're correct, all children have gifts. "Gifted" is a psychologically defined term that cannot and should not be used on all children.
All children have gifts, but not all children are intellectually gifted.
The best way to summarize gifted children is that their brains and development are different than the average person. Gifted kids tend to figure out the world and outside skills such as reading and science while their peers are learning social skills and emotional intelligence. Gifted kids learn these things later in life, albeit a lot differently because at that point you're expected to have social skills figured out when you're 20.