Thank you for the nice review. the hot air gun rest pointing downward gave me pause. Pointing downward makes it harder for it to cool and more likely to fail as well as possibly melt your desk ;) If you look at 3:09, before you removed the cover, the mounting holes were oriented upward (as they also did on the other side). So, i believe that you installed the cover backwards when you re-assembled it. So many years later that it probably does not matter, but if it hasn't already failed, or you have have had to replaced it, you might want to reverse the cover and the gun rest.
If u get one pick up one of the $12 hakko soldering iron temp clone things. The iron was way out of calibration and had to jack it all the way up to melt solder. If i remember correct the blue block on the right is the soldering iron adjust. Works fine now that its claibrated
great review Just curious when you tested the draw in the beginning you didn't turn the master switch off on the back was wondering if that would totally stop the power draw?
dude you need to invest in some good de soldering tools , solder wick , de solder pump . pulling parts off by just heated the solder is a good way to pull of solder runs or pads.
Very good, very informative review! However, you accidentally left almost seven minutes of blank screen + video editing snippets at the end. BTW, what do you use for video editing? I've only done a little of it, but last time I downloaded with TH-cam Video Downloader, edited with Windows Movie Maker, and converted with Handbrake.
24:08 That idea you had about the thin sheet metal between the tip and the ceramic element is a good idea... The tip on my cheapo 12 dollar 60-watt iron is the same style as those and it has a thin cylindrical bushing inside the sleeve of the tip to make the tip fit better. Works great!
Nice Station and good review, thanks. So i bought it too, mine also come in without power switch on back , just the plug in cord to work. It got cut out for it, ca we install it ? which wires to cut and connect? also a Question: after plug in just on bottom display showing lines, top for solder is blank but after turning on it works. It's damaged? Why isn't showing up top display lines at start?
I always appreciate you people reviewing things that actually involved an eyes on inspection. Couple of things I might add are that test the actual tip temp with an odd on for your VOM to see if it is really off fr enough to hurt anything & if it is then merely gently crimp it down to a tighter size. Also, although it helps secure those circuit board connector screws you mentioned, that coating on them is actually to prevent someone from getting a shock IF they are inside the case where they are not supposed to be & have forgotten to unplug the unit and discharge it. Again, Thanks for taking the time to do this for all of us out here!
I bought this model and I had issues with getting the power to turn on and when it did I would have to unplug it to turn it off. I opened it up to find the power button had been burning the whole time and wasn't connecting properly anymore. The off button on the top of the power button was also burning up from the power button. I had to clean it up and solder them to get a better connections. It's not worth the money.
The heating element on my Hakko 936 has a metal cylinder around it where the tip goes, that would probably take up some of the slack in the tip. I think this thing uses the same 900m style tips, not sure though.. That tip that comes with it is really loose looking for sure though. Just realized how old the video is. Does this thing still work?
advertiva You don't want to do that. The thermal expansion of the two materials is hard to estimate, adding a 3rd material may damage it or jam the tip on.
Just looking into getting one of these. Hey, thanks a lot for the dis-assemble so that we could ALL check everything out...nice job. You were very thorough.
Most of these units have a main switch on the back so they don't draw power all the time when plugged in. Looks like yours has the cutout for it but they've blanked it off - cheapskates!
Bought an 852 few years ago .. No issues no problems.. in June I’ll have had it 2 1/2 yrs Paid $150 cdn 🇨🇦 Worth every penny.. Cheers from Northern Ontario (HudsonBay)🇨🇦
Hi, i have the same unit as you do. But the brand name my unit has is Zeny. I need a replacement soldering iron. Do you know where i can find one. Hope to hear from you soon. Many thanks in advance
I bought one of these 2 months ago every thing worked fine for about 15 min, the the fan stopped working then ( it smells burned ). not getting any good help from where I bought it ( China ) anyways I checked the voltage up to fan motor it reads 42 dc volts but motor is rated 24 dc volts I think it's burned out. Question, where on the board do I look thats causing this problem ? Has anybody had this problem with this unit ?
Thanks for the input. but I did order it for 220-240 volts. I just shelved it . This particular unit is a chinese counterfeit , which most of there shit is. (electronics) I contacted the OEM manufacturer and there unit has a overload circuit built in and other safeguards. lesson learned, something HAS to be left out of a product when they are made and sold so cheaply , as a rule of thumb as the saying goes.
This guy is very Thoreau with this topic of skill on what he knows.. I believe he should have more subs because he is good at what he knows and what skills he has on this topic of computers and other stuff.. Great video man keep up the great work on your videos.
Gamer Russell think the only reason he doesn't is because the videos are too long. One key to having a lot of views on a review video is keep it short. I only found this video because it had the most views on it, I was not excited about the length. I don't always have 25mins to watch a review and I'm sure most don't. A lot of editing will have to go into the video to get the same points across but it will be shorter.
To my knowledge the heating elements of the hot air gun run on mains voltage while the heating elements of the T12 tips are running on 12-25V. So the answer is: no. However there are smaller and cheaper control units available for that type of heatgung. I got mine for 25$ at AliExpress. Professional devices like the Quick Hot Air station split the heating and the blower elements: The air stream is created from the control unit and delivered using a pipe to the heating element/handset. This seems to produce better results (faster heatup, stable temperature) and smaller hand sets, which is preferred for PCB rework/reflow.
@@sbeezynukka Sorry, looks like I misunderstood you. You were talking about the soldering iron part of the station? I bet this runs on 12-25V DC so it may be compatible (not with the handle, though), however KSGER, Quicko and other "T12-style" makers do have different pin mappings (4 or 5 lines, depending on the station). Also they have custom heating profiles for each tip programmed to the controller. I'm not sure if you can update the controller firmware of this station to match the T12 tips. Probably not.
charlie brownau I'm pretty sure he has much more expensive gear already in use, and just did this as a standard review for somebody who would consider it.
Dude, the most obvious thing you should have noticed before takin it apart is the mfg F'd up on the live pwr protection input. The neutral is switched and fused not the live/ hot lead. That means it's always live, even when it's turned off. They did this to save a few bucks on putting a proper switch and fuse.
Don't think so. Incoming fuse is on the brown phase with the blue neutral connected straight through. IEC colour codes rather than US, since they just seem to have stuck a US plug on a European cable.
Shouldn't need to, as the brown 'should' be the phase - they seem to have taken reasonable care over the rest of the construction (apart from the mediocre earth connection) - but it would do no harm to check that it is connected to the correct pin on the US plug.
Please if you are a begginer but really want to learn electronics DO NOT, DO NOT!!! buy this peace of garbage. This product don't have quality. Buy Weller or Hakko they are more expencive but not as JBC and they really work.
Yes I watch the video. I think that you haven't work with Hi quality tools yet, but for sure this equipment is a waste of money. Look how much a Weller or Hakko cost. On 2 layers boards you don't need a lot of heat to work but multi layers you will need it. Just watch some videos of Weller and Hakko hot air stations and you will see. Any way is your choice. Once you try one of this you will immediately throw away that peace of garbage. Hey don't feel bad, we are here to help ok. Thanks.
Hector Alvarez *Im with you 90% but you gotta remember not everone can throw like $700USD at a hobby there not sure they wanna get into. I only just recently bought my JBC and yes its awsome but so was my shitty plug in wall iron. What I'm getting at is that starting out buy a cheap solder station. Buy top notch gear only if necessary.*
I don't think your tweezers are big enough lol
was thinking the same great lab tweezers
Thank you for the nice review. the hot air gun rest pointing downward gave me pause. Pointing downward makes it harder for it to cool and more likely to fail as well as possibly melt your desk ;) If you look at 3:09, before you removed the cover, the mounting holes were oriented upward (as they also did on the other side). So, i believe that you installed the cover backwards when you re-assembled it. So many years later that it probably does not matter, but if it hasn't already failed, or you have have had to replaced it, you might want to reverse the cover and the gun rest.
This is the best review on a product I've ever seen!Looking to take mine apart as soon as it arrives.Thanks for your time.Daniel
Actually, you should turn up the temperature on the iron to 450 when soldering bigger contacts, 300 degrees isn't enough.
Good review.
If u get one pick up one of the $12 hakko soldering iron temp clone things. The iron was way out of calibration and had to jack it all the way up to melt solder. If i remember correct the blue block on the right is the soldering iron adjust. Works fine now that its claibrated
I've seen those clone irons. They're better than what comes with this? Are they 25 volt?
great review Just curious when you tested the draw in the beginning you didn't turn the master switch off on the back was wondering if that would totally stop the power draw?
Mine must be an older version, it does not have a switch
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dude you need to invest in some good de soldering tools , solder wick , de solder pump . pulling parts off by just heated the solder is a good way to pull of solder runs or pads.
Very good, very informative review!
However, you accidentally left almost seven minutes of blank screen + video editing snippets at the end.
BTW, what do you use for video editing? I've only done a little of it, but last time I downloaded with TH-cam Video Downloader, edited with Windows Movie Maker, and converted with Handbrake.
24:08 That idea you had about the thin sheet metal between the tip and the ceramic element is a good idea... The tip on my cheapo 12 dollar 60-watt iron is the same style as those and it has a thin cylindrical bushing inside the sleeve of the tip to make the tip fit better. Works great!
Nice Station and good review, thanks.
So i bought it too, mine also come in without power switch on back , just the plug in cord to work. It got cut out for it, ca we install it ? which wires to cut and connect?
also a Question: after plug in just on bottom display showing lines, top for solder is blank but after turning on it works.
It's damaged? Why isn't showing up top display lines at start?
I had taken mine apart to do a repair, and forgot how to put it back together. Thanks for the video sir, very helpful.
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Gday, thanks for the good review
I always appreciate you people reviewing things that actually involved an eyes on inspection. Couple of things I might add are that test the actual tip temp with an odd on for your VOM to see if it is really off fr enough to hurt anything & if it is then merely gently crimp it down to a tighter size. Also, although it helps secure those circuit board connector screws you mentioned, that coating on them is actually to prevent someone from getting a shock IF they are inside the case where they are not supposed to be & have forgotten to unplug the unit and discharge it. Again, Thanks for taking the time to do this for all of us out here!
Just got the WEP version, it's exactly the same, thanks for the knowledge 👍
I have one; it seems to work okay. For regular soldering I stick with the Hakko 928.
I bought this model and I had issues with getting the power to turn on and when it did I would have to unplug it to turn it off. I opened it up to find the power button had been burning the whole time and wasn't connecting properly anymore. The off button on the top of the power button was also burning up from the power button. I had to clean it up and solder them to get a better connections. It's not worth the money.
i have a friend that has one just like tgis and he been useing it for about three years now and still work just like the day it came :)
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Nicely done and very helpful. I'll take your recommendation!
Possibly the best product review I've ever seen! Thanks!
junk they last about 2 seconds
these are expensive now, £70
The heating element on my Hakko 936 has a metal cylinder around it where the tip goes, that would probably take up some of the slack in the tip. I think this thing uses the same 900m style tips, not sure though.. That tip that comes with it is really loose looking for sure though. Just realized how old the video is. Does this thing still work?
Hows the station doing since you bought it
Still working well although it doesn't get heavy use. Great for salvaging parts.
Put a Hako 901 on it I did and it was way off Jeff.
Add layer of thin copper sheet between the ceramic element and the tip
advertiva You don't want to do that. The thermal expansion of the two materials is hard to estimate, adding a 3rd material may damage it or jam the tip on.
Just did this mod to it and it made a big difference
would copper foil tape work?
I just bought it I hope it arrives quick and really helpful video
Just looking into getting one of these. Hey, thanks a lot for the dis-assemble so that we could ALL check everything out...nice job. You were very thorough.
Most of these units have a main switch on the back so they don't draw power all the time when plugged in. Looks like yours has the cutout for it but they've blanked it off - cheapskates!
that pisses me off 😠
That transformer was really going at it with the noise.
Mine uses 160-215 watts on max air and solder. I got a dud?
Bought an 852 few years ago ..
No issues no problems.. in June I’ll have had it 2 1/2 yrs
Paid $150 cdn 🇨🇦
Worth every penny..
Cheers from Northern Ontario (HudsonBay)🇨🇦
Hi, i have the same unit as you do. But the brand name my unit has is Zeny. I need a replacement soldering iron. Do you know where i can find one. Hope to hear from you soon. Many thanks in advance
Very similar to my Saike 952D+ resoldering station. No differences.
Hi, I'm loking for cheap options and want to know if yours is still working, and if you have liked so far. Thanks.
There is a kill switch in the back
getting the heat down on one side is not pretty expressive ----
Would it work with 240v?
No you need to buy the 240v version, the heating hot air element runs directly on the mains.
YIHUA-862D + yes you can rewire the primary side transformer, wire in series
Wow, definitely want to have this plugged into a power strip with a switch. The 6 watts of power draw over a year is around $16-$18 in the USA.
Wow $18 a year to have a station running 24/7. What a huge impact on the bill.
what's the diameter of nozzles?
Does the unit show the temperature in Celsius or Fahrenheit degrees?
Celsius
Thanks for video made it an easy decision! Just ordered
I bought one of these 2 months ago every thing worked fine for about 15 min, the the fan stopped working then ( it smells burned ). not getting any good help from where I bought it ( China ) anyways I checked the voltage up to fan motor it reads 42 dc volts but motor is rated 24 dc volts I think it's burned out. Question, where on the board do I look thats causing this problem ? Has anybody had this problem with this unit ?
Hemi Power you probably plugged into into a 240V socket....
Thanks for the input. but I did order it for 220-240 volts. I just shelved it . This particular unit is a chinese counterfeit , which most of there shit is. (electronics) I contacted the OEM manufacturer and there unit has a overload circuit built in and other safeguards. lesson learned, something HAS to be left out of a product when they are made and sold so cheaply , as a rule of thumb as the saying goes.
question? how heave is the soldering iron docking station?
Ebay listings show the whole package is about 10lbs, maybe 5-8 of that is the base station
SOLD
Hi, what is that nois? Is it from soldering station?
Would the 852d+ be a better option than the 862. Or is the 862 better?
the 852d+ has the hot air fan in the base instead of the handpiece, I chose the 862 for a more flexible cord
This is certainly not the cheapest!
Like christmas!
Will this work for removing HDMI ports?
You have to be careful with connectors not to melt any plastic components but with care it should be possible
Enjoyed the review.
I got one with the power supply on it. I love it.
This guy is very Thoreau with this topic of skill on what he knows.. I believe he should have more subs because he is good at what he knows and what skills he has on this topic of computers and other stuff.. Great video man keep up the great work on your videos.
Gamer Russell think the only reason he doesn't is because the videos are too long. One key to having a lot of views on a review video is keep it short. I only found this video because it had the most views on it, I was not excited about the length. I don't always have 25mins to watch a review and I'm sure most don't. A lot of editing will have to go into the video to get the same points across but it will be shorter.
*thorough
does anyone know if this gun works with the t12 style irons like ksger etc?
To my knowledge the heating elements of the hot air gun run on mains voltage while the heating elements of the T12 tips are running on 12-25V. So the answer is: no. However there are smaller and cheaper control units available for that type of heatgung. I got mine for 25$ at AliExpress. Professional devices like the Quick Hot Air station split the heating and the blower elements: The air stream is created from the control unit and delivered using a pipe to the heating element/handset. This seems to produce better results (faster heatup, stable temperature) and smaller hand sets, which is preferred for PCB rework/reflow.
Horst Fuchs thanks! The hakko style tips are fine too! I just like the pull out push in nature of the the t12 styled tips
@@sbeezynukka Sorry, looks like I misunderstood you. You were talking about the soldering iron part of the station? I bet this runs on 12-25V DC so it may be compatible (not with the handle, though), however KSGER, Quicko and other "T12-style" makers do have different pin mappings (4 or 5 lines, depending on the station). Also they have custom heating profiles for each tip programmed to the controller. I'm not sure if you can update the controller firmware of this station to match the T12 tips. Probably not.
Horst Fuchs I was talking about the wand
how many volts or watts
700w
Did you happen to keep using this or look into another one instead ?
charlie brownau I'm pretty sure he has much more expensive gear already in use, and just did this as a standard review for somebody who would consider it.
charlie brownau Just saw a comment further down. He said it still works great, but he doesn't use it much except for salvaging parts. :)
if it ant broke then dont have to take it apart ppl like us just want to no how to use it and not the insides of eatch part :)
Dude, the most obvious thing you should have noticed before takin it apart is the mfg F'd up on the live pwr protection input. The neutral is switched and fused not the live/ hot lead. That means it's always live, even when it's turned off. They did this to save a few bucks on putting a proper switch and fuse.
Don't think so. Incoming fuse is on the brown phase with the blue neutral connected straight through. IEC colour codes rather than US, since they just seem to have stuck a US plug on a European cable.
So flipping the cables would fix it? :v
Shouldn't need to, as the brown 'should' be the phase - they seem to have taken reasonable care over the rest of the construction (apart from the mediocre earth connection) - but it would do no harm to check that it is connected to the correct pin on the US plug.
so, why does the transformer stay energized?
I got one with a 0 to 15 v power supply on it
Please if you are a begginer but really want to learn electronics DO NOT, DO NOT!!! buy this peace of garbage. This product don't have quality. Buy Weller or Hakko they are more expencive but not as JBC and they really work.
I don't know, it looks to be pretty well made for the money. Did you watch the video or just give a "Cheap = Junk" knee-jerk reaction?
Yes I watch the video. I think that you haven't work with Hi quality tools yet, but for sure this equipment is a waste of money. Look how much a Weller or Hakko cost. On 2 layers boards you don't need a lot of heat to work but multi layers you will need it. Just watch some videos of Weller and Hakko hot air stations and you will see. Any way is your choice. Once you try one of this you will immediately throw away that peace of garbage.
Hey don't feel bad, we are here to help ok.
Thanks.
Hector Alvarez this is good entry level stuff, not everyone can afford weller
For the price point this looks really good! Especially if you're still an EE student like me. It will get the basics done.
Hector Alvarez *Im with you 90% but you gotta remember not everone can throw like $700USD at a hobby there not sure they wanna get into. I only just recently bought my JBC and yes its awsome but so was my shitty plug in wall iron. What I'm getting at is that starting out buy a cheap solder station. Buy top notch gear only if necessary.*