"... for those of you here who feel their body didn't do the right thing because you didn't fight and you didn't flee, but you froze, I'm here to say your body did exactly what it was supposed to do, it was protecting you..." Exactly what I needed to hear, what a blessing! Thank you, Irene
You described the dichotomy of the body responding to pleasure while knowing this is wrong while being molested is what has tortured me for 50+ years. The guilt has tortured me and it took me until my 40s to even call it incest by my father. I was 15 yrs old when it began. I felt I was complicit because of my age. Because of my physical response and my inappropriate relationship with my perpetrator. I blamed myself and I labeled myself as depraved, a monster, and later I had many more dangerous labels. I’ve lived a tortured life of self imposed trauma and frozen. I have had years of effective talk therapy and EMDR, but the pain in my body and the terror/anxiety that I was a monster remained. I recently found your videos (one month ago) and you have given me hope that I will have my life back some day, even though I am now 67 yrs old. Your videos on Somatic healing is absolutely life-saving. I plan on starting your 21 day program this month. Thank you for your work. You are a blessing to me. 🌺
This Here......someone finally said it ...I'm so proud of you for being so courageous...I know that was hard .love to you for helping me and others .my story is a Lil different because I can't remember what happened to me ... Initially however I've been living out this truma my whole life . Until I start asking questions. It took one beautiful soul that I could confide in .bless him. But anyway Thank you for your comment ❤❤.love and healing to us.
I would argue there is something wrong with talk therapy when the therapist can’t help you past a certain point and denies your reality bc they don’t have a better solution
I’ve had problems with holistic healers too.. I called for a treatment and she was booked out- but I had a feeling someone would cancel. Then it happened and I boasted with delight. She took offense like I had wished something bad on someone to miss their appointment. I was like, never mind 😂. My poor brother was turned away from someone who said you need a psychotherapist I can’t help you- made him feel totally REJECTED. He wasn’t kind about it. He hasn’t turned to therapy till this day. My brother just don’t wanna talk about it. Some people need doctors but me and my brother don’t have insurance. So we can’t rely. Have to go within and just experience life and learning. If you have insurance and you have the time to sift through therapists- that may be good for you.. there are many options no one is without options never give up 🖤❤️🩹🤍
Thank you for having the courage to tell the truth. I've been doing this work for quite some time and it's been very difficult to find people who are doing the work to heal this very difficult issue. It's like being locked in a steel cage and the door is highly sexualized. Any way thank you
I LOVED the annihilation article. My mind embodied me in a panther in front of my child self, snarling and stalking the target. I scratched and bit and tore. It felt good to finally defend myself.
This is really important to me and I implement this with my patients. I am a proctologist and pelvic Tension is a big problem for many patients. Thank you Irene 💖
I figured out during the last roller-coaster month, which i also commented in video chat and Irene also read it in the video, , that my body is so intelligent. That it titrates emotions by itself if i trust and let it do it in its way. Its so mindblowing realization to me.. :) It will never go too far. Only my mind would want to push. So i am learning to leave this job to the body. My job is to trust it and telling myself that its ok and its safe. I also noticed that because i wasnt allowed to express, show emotions, i just automatically dissociate. So i am also learning to notice that and also telling myself that these are my emotions and i have all right to feel them. It's not easy because i live in a toxic environment, my father sexualy harassed me, but somehow i move forward. Thanks to Irene and her team.. and 21 days NSTU that i bought last year this time. Changed my life so much. ❤️
FSM (frequency specific microcurrent) can also be very helpful. They actually have different frequencies to treat various emotions (fear, anger, sadness, etc.) and they even have a vagus nerve frequency to help the body achieve full parasympathetic state.
Men don't even have rights over their own cocks, and they deserve the basic human right of all their genitals. If it is not a life saving procedure it is mutilation. Normalize NOT cutting up your sons' cocks, America. Normalize men owning their own cocks, and not having their cocks be public property of their parents and America. Circumcision, male genital mutilation, is immoral and disgusting. Most Americans, conservatives or liberals, love to ignore this. The USA mutilated 1.4 million baby boys in 2022 alone. Over 4,000 a day. 80.5% of men in USA are cut, no consent, they don't know how authentic sex feels like. Then the USA jokes about circumcision in their crappy TV shows and movies. Only a slave would joke about his own violation and the violation of other baby boys. Christians in your country can't read the New Testament properly, it seems. Apostle Paul calls circumcision mutilation and emasculation. Foregen is a biotech company that is fully reversing circumcision with regenerative medicine. This is beyond foreskin restoration which doesn't bring back the inner mucosal lining, Meissner's corpuscles, fine touch receptors, and other musculature like the dartos muscle. Over 6500+ species of mammals have foreskins. That isn't a mistake. Do animals take better care of themselves than humans? Europe knows better, Japan, too...the majority of the world, in fact. His penis is his own, it's not the family penis. To deny any of this is to be emotionally avoidant, willfully ignorant - and from ignorance comes acts of evil.
Through listening to you in this exact video I ve been met with what holds me back and it is a belief system. I am erasing it. So helpful ! i monitor how it goes. Thank you !
This work *takes* work! LOL It's a labor of love with oneself for sure. Around 43:00 about the pop through of somatic memories - years ago, I had learned to do progressive relaxation (the "start at your feet and tense your toes, now let them go..." type process). I liked it and had done it, though usually with either an audio tape guiding or in other situations, but the first time I tried it at home by myself with just my own thoughts guiding me along, I got into a really really deep state of relaxation, so much so that I nearly fell asleep. It actually prompted a panic feeling! It took a long to understand why. It had been a very uncommon thing for most of my life for me to be able to not be hypervigilant or tense while awake and not impaired in any way.
Thank you for this - so very helpful. Just one comment I'd add that the terminology in this video is relevant to some people who've experienced sexual trauma, but not all... for instance the word 'attack' doesn't apply to me... sometimes sexual trauma can be experienced as non violent and even experienced as non abusive, even though boundaries have been broken and the person was violated...I know that won't apply to the masses but maybe for some... So fascinating - I would like to try somatic experiencing but after finding some peace in my body after many difficult years, I'm also wary of stirring things up again. Thanks again.
Hi Beanee Babee, Seth here with Team Lyon. Thanks so much for sharing these nuances! I hear you on not wanting to stir stuff up if you've found a certain level of peace. And that may be best! I suppose you could contemplate whether there still is unresolved trauma that you are holding, or not, and if so how that may be affecting you. And consider if you need to have a lot of practices and routines in place in order to feel ok. If so, then it's your call whether it would be worth unpacking that stuff, because you are correct that if there is unresolved trauma in your system, you will have to eventually feel it on its way out the door, and that can certainly be unpleasant. On the other hand, it is impossible to achieve our full level of vibrancy, vitality, purpose, and overall health if we have unresolved trauma in the system. One of the key practices we teach it the principle of titration, along with gradual capacity building. This work is not at all about confrontation and being overwhelmed, we really focus on going slow, bit by bit, such that when the unpleasant things do arise, we have the capacity and knowledge to process them. Irene has a couple videos on titration that may be good to consider.... th-cam.com/video/Qxd8hTMUSOY/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/kUgkowZhmWs/w-d-xo.html
Hey Mermaid Blues, Seth here with team Lyon. Yes, unfortunately there are SO many potentially traumatic things that have been normalized. You can heal the damage though!
Thank you for this and also highlighting injuries outside of abuse too. I came down on bar of bike as a child and feel I still hold that trauma here as well as a guy being rough many years later
Thank you. This was very informative and helpful Irene. I'm making fabulous process in my healing after being stuck for two decades. This healing modality works! Looking forward to SBSM in 2022!
If going into sexuality with myself basically almost always brings up a huge amount of fight/flight-energy followed by restlessness and sleepless nights - i dont even know what the question is - is that a sure sign of having some (sexual) trauma stored in the body? how to handle these energies? and will this ever be discharged/released and manageable? im starting to learn again to be very very slow and mindful so that its not too much at once coming up but........i dont know...it feels like always walking on eggshells...never fully enjoying the experience...always careful to not get overwhelmed by it all...im avoiding human contact at large for a long time now for the same reason...its like everything could at any moment stir it all up again...and if that happens i dont know how to process it or how to be with whats going on...thank you for any further help in this... and thank you so much for all your videos on this channel...maybe i will join one of your drop-in-classes soon...all the best until then... ❤️
Hi Lunz, Seth here with Team Lyon. What you describe is certainly is a sure sign of unresolved trauma in the system, though it's hard to say for sure whether that trauma is necessarily sexual. It could be, or it could be related indirectly to sexuality or the genital area, or it could be that the high energy state of arousal triggers the high energy state of the unresolved survival energy. So, the way to work with that is to do what your doing - go slow, and when stuff starts to come up, pause the sexual activity and really attend to what is arising. It sounds like you would really benefit from doing this somatic trauma work in general so yes, please join us for a drop in class, and also be sure to check out IRene's free resources and other online programs. Free Resources - irenelyon.com/free-resources-2/ Online Programs - irenelyon.com/programs/
@@fleurdemaya1484 I woke up in the trauma of it this morning like it was happening all over it made me feel angry and naturally want to hurt them for it. As does still happen to me.
You just told my story. Same with me nearly identical including sleep issues and and avoidance. I have resolved a of the trauma but it's still a real problem for me. The last issue that found is the pattern of disorganized attachment from childhood way before I had the ability to talk. Thank you hang in there you are not alone in this.
Oh ok I want to clarify my question - I more meant, if we didn’t necessarily have sexual trauma but we’re just in toxic (emotionally) intimate relationships can the same symptoms arise? I presume yes
You betcha. That is why much of the core work is the same at the outset. Then, with more skill and understanding of our own biology and unique patterns of behaviour and how we interact with the world around us, or within us internally, we might seek out specific types of therapy, bodywork, group support etc. Hope that helps. Irene.
Aurora, Jen here from Team Lyon. The information that Irene teaches about trauma includes physical abuse. She has many related resources about trauma and how it impacts us. I realize you're familiar with her channel, and if you haven't watched her free Healing Trauma video training in a while it might be worth watching. She covers a lot of related info in that series. free Healing Trauma video training - irenelyon.com/healing-trauma
I love your work. I actually feel confronting is helpful for moving out of freeze. Otherwise I remain vulnerable prey. It's bad precedent fore not to stand up for myself.
So I've lived most of my life in fight/flight and recently have started finding myself in freeze/dissociation more often. Is this something to be concerned about...Like things are getting "worse" or a sign of moving out of fight/flight in the right direction?
I think freeze is a sign of exhaustion. It's my situation. I used to go more fight or flight and then I kind of gave up. Now it's usually a freeze response. 😢
I hope you still read and respond to comments on this after a couple of years. My question is (note, I am only at the beginning of the video so far) how would one go about removing this kind of trauma from the body when the event was an imagined and perceived threat, as a child, rather than having any actual physical experience?
Kerri Greig, Jen here from Team Lyon. When the event is imagined we approach it the same way that we would an actual physical experience. The essence of this process involves learning about the nervous system, taking steps to grow nervous system capacity, and then learning to work with held survival responses. Irene created a Field Guide to Working with the Nervous System. I'll link to it here in case you'd like to learn more. Field Guide to Working with Your Nervous System - irenelyon.com/field-guide-to-your-nervous-system
Hey foreverpiano, Seth here with Team Lyon. Yes, that can absolutely happen! It's not uncommon at all to have unexplainable emotions and sensations arise without any context or memories. That's the beauty of doing this somatic-based approach to trauma healing, we don't have to know what happened in order to work with it - the body knows! And as we become more and more tuned in with the body and how to allow what it presents to move through and resolve, very often memories will spontaneously arise.
I have this idea that sexual trauma is big trauma and more difficult to heal then any other trauma. Or do we have to consider it as any other trauma and working on releasing the stuck emotions and building capacity?
Hi Amira Dancer, Jen here from Team Lyon. There are many factors involved it what it takes to heal a specific trauma - it's not as straightforward as saying one type is the most difficult. For example, one person may experience sexual trauma and have access to a good support system and an early foundation of nervous system regulation, this would likely have a very different impact than if someone also has a history of early trauma and didn't have access to a support system. This is in NO way intended to minimize the impact of this trauma on either person, rather to highlight that what it takes to heal is unique to each person and nervous system and depends on a variety of factors. And yes, taking steps to build nervous system regulation and capacity and to allow what needs to express to express is part of healing sexual trauma. There is also often a relationship component to healing sexual trauma (as is the case with many traumas).
I have an overwhelming amount of traumas that have been brought up ...😢where do i start?...is crying helping ..my vagus nerve..i have paralyzed vocal cords.its like my voice is being quieted even more .im in pretty bad shape here . I do have a feeling in my heart that i will be ok after my healing ❤️ so i am hopeful.
Hello, Sophia here from Team Lyon. I'm sorry to hear you're navigating a difficult situation, we appreciate your share. If you're interested in learning more about your nervous system and how to work with it, we highly recommend Irene's free resources and mini-training, all housed under this link: irenelyon.com/free-resources/ If you're completely new to this work, you can start with this page: irenelyon.com/new-here/ Additionally, here is a TH-cam playlist with practical exercises: th-cam.com/play/PL_tIcR-r0CU5Xss_Mq1buU-tWdYVQksjI.html Please feel free to reach out to our support inbox if you have any questions. All the best
How do we separate these from our body tho? I know what happened wasn't on but the feelings are I am 45 and still can't climax with a partner and my legs do this thing I can't control which makes it very frustrating for my partner . I was abused by my grandpa from age 7-10 didn't tell till I was 12. Summers I spent there with him. Also my babysitter 15 boy when I was home. I have recently learned how much this was still effecting me till recently. Your very unclear tho I know it's in the body how do I get it to separate? Somatic ?
Chrissy - Mara here with Team Lyon. Sorry to read of your sexual trauma and how it's affecting you in the present day. You asked how to get it to separate. I understand that you're asking how to heal that past trauma so your body is no longer defending you against an old threat when you are in a sexual situation. This work can take time, education, knowledge, and sometimes work with a skillful Somatic Experiencing Practitioner, versed in sexual abuse. Consider starting with the Healing Trauma videos: irenelyon.com/healing-trauma-freeresources/
You mentioned about getting into what happens when something happens when we're young but we don't have memory of it (at 24:42) but I don't think you elaborated on it, will there be another video to follow on this?
Hi Michele S, Jen here from Team Lyon. I'm not sure if Irene will make another video about this, and she does have a related one about working with traumas that you don't remember. I'll link to that one in case you'd like to check it out. Can you process a trauma you don't remember? - th-cam.com/video/dv7lOnbk03w/w-d-xo.html
what do i do when a lot of these feelings start coming up at school would pendulation work effectively so that i can carry on or ? not quite sure on this
Hi Zoe Bell, Jen here from Team Lyon. It depends on your nervous system capacity and the intensity of the feelings. If it's possible to pendulate, then yes, you can definitely try that. If it's an option to step away - to go outside, get a drink of water, etc., sometimes this can be helpful too. I'll link to two resources of Irene's that you might check out. It they are helpful, you might adapt them or when it's happening, and you can also practice after the fact, when you feel like you have the time and space to do so. DIY: Ancient Anxiety Medicine - th-cam.com/video/0ICsbXUCKmM/w-d-xo.html&lc=UgzKvm65Pqe9xARznlN4AaABAg 4 Simple Steps to Calm Overwhelm - irenelyon.com/4-steps-to-calm-overwhelm/
It’s not about it being a decision or not; it’s about the body’s response. Irene (or one of her team) commented on another person’s comment about having an IUD inserted. It is traumatizing for the body, just as how a “routine” tonsillectomy can be very traumatic to the body. It’s not about the cognitive story of what’s happening; it’s about it being invasive towards the body and interfering with things in ways that are not natural for the body. It causes a survival response to kick in, even if you’re under anesthetic and can’t feel that happening. Just like in preverbal trauma where you don’t remember it but it still has an effect, surgery is the same and needs the appropriate work to allow the survival stress to move up and out. Hope that helps. :)
I use to think I was 2 people I would look in the mirror and I looked normal like I always did but I would feel different and thought I was really good at hiding horrible things that happened to me this was me in the 7 th grad e I use to go to my friend houses after school and wonder if their fathers did the same and they learned to be actors too later it was boyfriends yes Iwas screamed at too I just thought I was born bad It played out later in so many ugly self hating ways
"... for those of you here who feel their body didn't do the right thing because you didn't fight and you didn't flee, but you froze, I'm here to say your body did exactly what it was supposed to do, it was protecting you..."
Exactly what I needed to hear, what a blessing! Thank you, Irene
How beautifully helpfull this comment is, thanks!
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I'm not sure if that's ever been a conscious choice for anyone.that did not preplan their reaction to that particular event
You described the dichotomy of the body responding to pleasure while knowing this is wrong while being molested is what has tortured me for 50+ years. The guilt has tortured me and it took me until my 40s to even call it incest by my father. I was 15 yrs old when it began. I felt I was complicit because of my age. Because of my physical response and my inappropriate relationship with my perpetrator. I blamed myself and I labeled myself as depraved, a monster, and later I had many more dangerous labels. I’ve lived a tortured life of self imposed trauma and frozen. I have had years of effective talk therapy and EMDR, but the pain in my body and the terror/anxiety that I was a monster remained. I recently found your videos (one month ago) and you have given me hope that I will have my life back some day, even though I am now 67 yrs old. Your videos on Somatic healing is absolutely life-saving. I plan on starting your 21 day program this month. Thank you for your work. You are a blessing to me. 🌺
I'm so sorry for your trauma. Your father should be in prison forever. I hope he is not doing well and never did. V
This Here......someone finally said it ...I'm so proud of you for being so courageous...I know that was hard .love to you for helping me and others .my story is a Lil different because I can't remember what happened to me ... Initially however I've been living out this truma my whole life . Until I start asking questions. It took one beautiful soul that I could confide in .bless him. But anyway Thank you for your comment ❤❤.love and healing to us.
I would argue there is something wrong with talk therapy when the therapist can’t help you past a certain point and denies your reality bc they don’t have a better solution
ive seen this so many times. help seekers fired for being too negative, closed hearted, "unwilling" to get over something
Holistic healer will help you 🙏
I couldn’t agree more!!
I’ve had problems with holistic healers too.. I called for a treatment and she was booked out- but I had a feeling someone would cancel. Then it happened and I boasted with delight. She took offense like I had wished something bad on someone to miss their appointment. I was like, never mind 😂. My poor brother was turned away from someone who said you need a psychotherapist I can’t help you- made him feel totally REJECTED. He wasn’t kind about it. He hasn’t turned to therapy till this day. My brother just don’t wanna talk about it. Some people need doctors but me and my brother don’t have insurance. So we can’t rely. Have to go within and just experience life and learning. If you have insurance and you have the time to sift through therapists- that may be good for you.. there are many options no one is without options never give up 🖤❤️🩹🤍
Thank you for having the courage to tell the truth. I've been doing this work for quite some time and it's been very difficult to find people who are doing the work to heal this very difficult issue. It's like being locked in a steel cage and the door is highly sexualized. Any way thank you
I LOVED the annihilation article. My mind embodied me in a panther in front of my child self, snarling and stalking the target. I scratched and bit and tore. It felt good to finally defend myself.
This is really important to me and I implement this with my patients. I am a proctologist and pelvic Tension is a big problem for many patients. Thank you Irene 💖
I figured out during the last roller-coaster month, which i also commented in video chat and Irene also read it in the video, , that my body is so intelligent. That it titrates emotions by itself if i trust and let it do it in its way. Its so mindblowing realization to me.. :)
It will never go too far. Only my mind would want to push. So i am learning to leave this job to the body.
My job is to trust it and telling myself that its ok and its safe.
I also noticed that because i wasnt allowed to express, show emotions, i just automatically dissociate. So i am also learning to notice that and also telling myself that these are my emotions and i have all right to feel them. It's not easy because i live in a toxic environment, my father sexualy harassed me, but somehow i move forward. Thanks to Irene and her team.. and 21 days NSTU that i bought last year this time. Changed my life so much. ❤️
FSM (frequency specific microcurrent) can also be very helpful. They actually have different frequencies to treat various emotions (fear, anger, sadness, etc.) and they even have a vagus nerve frequency to help the body achieve full parasympathetic state.
What’s out there to help
Really appreciate you mentioning that circumcision is a women's issue too and not just a men's issue!
Men don't even have rights over their own cocks, and they deserve the basic human right of all their genitals.
If it is not a life saving procedure it is mutilation.
Normalize NOT cutting up your sons' cocks, America.
Normalize men owning their own cocks, and not having their cocks be public property of their parents and America.
Circumcision, male genital mutilation, is immoral and disgusting.
Most Americans, conservatives or liberals, love to ignore this.
The USA mutilated 1.4 million baby boys in 2022 alone. Over 4,000 a day.
80.5% of men in USA are cut, no consent, they don't know how authentic sex feels like.
Then the USA jokes about circumcision in their crappy TV shows and movies.
Only a slave would joke about his own violation and the violation of other baby boys.
Christians in your country can't read the New Testament properly, it seems. Apostle Paul calls circumcision mutilation and emasculation.
Foregen is a biotech company that is fully reversing circumcision with regenerative medicine. This is beyond foreskin restoration which doesn't bring back the inner mucosal lining, Meissner's corpuscles, fine touch receptors, and other musculature like the dartos muscle.
Over 6500+ species of mammals have foreskins. That isn't a mistake. Do animals take better care of themselves than humans?
Europe knows better, Japan, too...the majority of the world, in fact.
His penis is his own, it's not the family penis.
To deny any of this is to be emotionally avoidant, willfully ignorant - and from ignorance comes acts of evil.
Through listening to you in this exact video I ve been met with what holds me back and it is a belief system. I am erasing it. So helpful ! i monitor how it goes. Thank you !
This work *takes* work! LOL It's a labor of love with oneself for sure. Around 43:00 about the pop through of somatic memories - years ago, I had learned to do progressive relaxation (the "start at your feet and tense your toes, now let them go..." type process). I liked it and had done it, though usually with either an audio tape guiding or in other situations, but the first time I tried it at home by myself with just my own thoughts guiding me along, I got into a really really deep state of relaxation, so much so that I nearly fell asleep. It actually prompted a panic feeling! It took a long to understand why. It had been a very uncommon thing for most of my life for me to be able to not be hypervigilant or tense while awake and not impaired in any way.
Thank you for this - so very helpful.
Just one comment I'd add that the terminology in this video is relevant to some people who've experienced sexual trauma, but not all... for instance the word 'attack' doesn't apply to me... sometimes sexual trauma can be experienced as non violent and even experienced as non abusive, even though boundaries have been broken and the person was violated...I know that won't apply to the masses but maybe for some...
So fascinating - I would like to try somatic experiencing but after finding some peace in my body after many difficult years, I'm also wary of stirring things up again.
Thanks again.
Hi Beanee Babee, Seth here with Team Lyon. Thanks so much for sharing these nuances! I hear you on not wanting to stir stuff up if you've found a certain level of peace. And that may be best! I suppose you could contemplate whether there still is unresolved trauma that you are holding, or not, and if so how that may be affecting you. And consider if you need to have a lot of practices and routines in place in order to feel ok. If so, then it's your call whether it would be worth unpacking that stuff, because you are correct that if there is unresolved trauma in your system, you will have to eventually feel it on its way out the door, and that can certainly be unpleasant. On the other hand, it is impossible to achieve our full level of vibrancy, vitality, purpose, and overall health if we have unresolved trauma in the system.
One of the key practices we teach it the principle of titration, along with gradual capacity building. This work is not at all about confrontation and being overwhelmed, we really focus on going slow, bit by bit, such that when the unpleasant things do arise, we have the capacity and knowledge to process them. Irene has a couple videos on titration that may be good to consider.... th-cam.com/video/Qxd8hTMUSOY/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/kUgkowZhmWs/w-d-xo.html
Im glad i found your comment, i have a non-aggressive trauma as well and have never really heard of people with similar experiences. ❤
working with the body is so powerful!… thank you so much for all this content 🙏🏼
You explain everything that I have been feeling in my interactions with the world and with my partner, thank you so much for this information!
Having my IUD fitted felt like being sexually attacked and has done a lot of damage. But we are expected to accept these things as normal.
Hey Mermaid Blues, Seth here with team Lyon. Yes, unfortunately there are SO many potentially traumatic things that have been normalized. You can heal the damage though!
Thank you for this and also highlighting injuries outside of abuse too. I came down on bar of bike as a child and feel I still hold that trauma here as well as a guy being rough many years later
Thank you. This was very informative and helpful Irene. I'm making fabulous process in my healing after being stuck for two decades. This healing modality works! Looking forward to SBSM in 2022!
Thank you Irene lyon for All
You are such a Beautiful blessing to this world!
this is extremely helpful . i'm in levine's workshops for certification now. you are truly talented, irene!
Such an important talk, thank you Irene as always for sharing
You”re gorgeous! I@ve been following you for about a year, thank you so much for all these priceless insights! Lots of love from Romania! 🤗
Thank you so much for your videos. It's helping me a lot on my healing journey ❤❤❤
Thank you for posting this video it was super helpful!
If going into sexuality with myself basically almost always brings up a huge amount of fight/flight-energy followed by restlessness and sleepless nights - i dont even know what the question is - is that a sure sign of having some (sexual) trauma stored in the body? how to handle these energies? and will this ever be discharged/released and manageable?
im starting to learn again to be very very slow and mindful so that its not too much at once coming up but........i dont know...it feels like always walking on eggshells...never fully enjoying the experience...always careful to not get overwhelmed by it all...im avoiding human contact at large for a long time now for the same reason...its like everything could at any moment stir it all up again...and if that happens i dont know how to process it or how to be with whats going on...thank you for any further help in this...
and thank you so much for all your videos on this channel...maybe i will join one of your drop-in-classes soon...all the best until then... ❤️
Hi Lunz, Seth here with Team Lyon. What you describe is certainly is a sure sign of unresolved trauma in the system, though it's hard to say for sure whether that trauma is necessarily sexual. It could be, or it could be related indirectly to sexuality or the genital area, or it could be that the high energy state of arousal triggers the high energy state of the unresolved survival energy. So, the way to work with that is to do what your doing - go slow, and when stuff starts to come up, pause the sexual activity and really attend to what is arising. It sounds like you would really benefit from doing this somatic trauma work in general so yes, please join us for a drop in class, and also be sure to check out IRene's free resources and other online programs.
Free Resources - irenelyon.com/free-resources-2/
Online Programs - irenelyon.com/programs/
I have night terrors
I have night terrors
@@fleurdemaya1484 I woke up in the trauma of it this morning like it was happening all over it made me feel angry and naturally want to hurt them for it. As does still happen to me.
You just told my story. Same with me nearly identical including sleep issues and and avoidance. I have resolved a of the trauma but it's still a real problem for me. The last issue that found is the pattern of disorganized attachment from childhood way before I had the ability to talk. Thank you hang in there you are not alone in this.
Oh ok I want to clarify my question - I more meant, if we didn’t necessarily have sexual trauma but we’re just in toxic (emotionally) intimate relationships can the same symptoms arise? I presume yes
You betcha. That is why much of the core work is the same at the outset. Then, with more skill and understanding of our own biology and unique patterns of behaviour and how we interact with the world around us, or within us internally, we might seek out specific types of therapy, bodywork, group support etc. Hope that helps. Irene.
Thank you 🙏🏻 ❤
Yeah I'm in that childhood's ptsd issue.
Yes!!! Thanks Dr.Irene!
Thanks 🙏 Irene this resonates so much with me x
Can you please do a video about people who has been hitted a lot during their childhood ( physical abuse and the effect of it on the body)
Aurora, Jen here from Team Lyon. The information that Irene teaches about trauma includes physical abuse. She has many related resources about trauma and how it impacts us. I realize you're familiar with her channel, and if you haven't watched her free Healing Trauma video training in a while it might be worth watching. She covers a lot of related info in that series.
free Healing Trauma video training - irenelyon.com/healing-trauma
I love your work. I actually feel confronting is helpful for moving out of freeze. Otherwise I remain vulnerable prey. It's bad precedent fore not to stand up for myself.
So I've lived most of my life in fight/flight and recently have started finding myself in freeze/dissociation more often. Is this something to be concerned about...Like things are getting "worse" or a sign of moving out of fight/flight in the right direction?
I think freeze is a sign of exhaustion. It's my situation. I used to go more fight or flight and then I kind of gave up. Now it's usually a freeze response. 😢
I’m sexually repressed and having difficult time to accept my sexuality. Please, I need some tips. 😭
Me too ❤️🩹🥺
Hi Irene, could you more videos on the fawn response ?
thank you so much ❤
I hope you still read and respond to comments on this after a couple of years.
My question is (note, I am only at the beginning of the video so far) how would one go about removing this kind of trauma from the body when the event was an imagined and perceived threat, as a child, rather than having any actual physical experience?
Kerri Greig, Jen here from Team Lyon. When the event is imagined we approach it the same way that we would an actual physical experience. The essence of this process involves learning about the nervous system, taking steps to grow nervous system capacity, and then learning to work with held survival responses. Irene created a Field Guide to Working with the Nervous System. I'll link to it here in case you'd like to learn more.
Field Guide to Working with Your Nervous System - irenelyon.com/field-guide-to-your-nervous-system
@@IreneLyon Thank you VERY much Jen!!! I'm looking at the link now xXx
what about having that disgust without the memory of abuse...
Hey foreverpiano, Seth here with Team Lyon. Yes, that can absolutely happen! It's not uncommon at all to have unexplainable emotions and sensations arise without any context or memories. That's the beauty of doing this somatic-based approach to trauma healing, we don't have to know what happened in order to work with it - the body knows! And as we become more and more tuned in with the body and how to allow what it presents to move through and resolve, very often memories will spontaneously arise.
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Very insightful thank you 🙏
I have this idea that sexual trauma is big trauma and more difficult to heal then any other trauma. Or do we have to consider it as any other trauma and working on releasing the stuck emotions and building capacity?
Hi Amira Dancer, Jen here from Team Lyon. There are many factors involved it what it takes to heal a specific trauma - it's not as straightforward as saying one type is the most difficult. For example, one person may experience sexual trauma and have access to a good support system and an early foundation of nervous system regulation, this would likely have a very different impact than if someone also has a history of early trauma and didn't have access to a support system.
This is in NO way intended to minimize the impact of this trauma on either person, rather to highlight that what it takes to heal is unique to each person and nervous system and depends on a variety of factors. And yes, taking steps to build nervous system regulation and capacity and to allow what needs to express to express is part of healing sexual trauma. There is also often a relationship component to healing sexual trauma (as is the case with many traumas).
I have night terrors and scream and often fall out of my bed. Why
I have an overwhelming amount of traumas that have been brought up ...😢where do i start?...is crying helping ..my vagus nerve..i have paralyzed vocal cords.its like my voice is being quieted even more .im in pretty bad shape here . I do have a feeling in my heart that i will be ok after my healing ❤️ so i am hopeful.
Hello, Sophia here from Team Lyon. I'm sorry to hear you're navigating a difficult situation, we appreciate your share. If you're interested in learning more about your nervous system and how to work with it, we highly recommend Irene's free resources and mini-training, all housed under this link: irenelyon.com/free-resources/
If you're completely new to this work, you can start with this page:
irenelyon.com/new-here/
Additionally, here is a TH-cam playlist with practical exercises:
th-cam.com/play/PL_tIcR-r0CU5Xss_Mq1buU-tWdYVQksjI.html
Please feel free to reach out to our support inbox if you have any questions. All the best
Hi from Fleur in Whitby Ontario Canada
Gratitude 🖤💜✨
Can you do a video on penile fractures and how to avoid?
How do we separate these from our body tho? I know what happened wasn't on but the feelings are I am 45 and still can't climax with a partner and my legs do this thing I can't control which makes it very frustrating for my partner . I was abused by my grandpa from age 7-10 didn't tell till I was 12. Summers I spent there with him. Also my babysitter 15 boy when I was home. I have recently learned how much this was still effecting me till recently. Your very unclear tho I know it's in the body how do I get it to separate? Somatic ?
Chrissy - Mara here with Team Lyon. Sorry to read of your sexual trauma and how it's affecting you in the present day. You asked how to get it to separate. I understand that you're asking how to heal that past trauma so your body is no longer defending you against an old threat when you are in a sexual situation. This work can take time, education, knowledge, and sometimes work with a skillful Somatic Experiencing Practitioner, versed in sexual abuse. Consider starting with the Healing Trauma videos: irenelyon.com/healing-trauma-freeresources/
@@IreneLyon I will do that thank you for your response .
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You mentioned about getting into what happens when something happens when we're young but we don't have memory of it (at 24:42) but I don't think you elaborated on it, will there be another video to follow on this?
Hi Michele S, Jen here from Team Lyon. I'm not sure if Irene will make another video about this, and she does have a related one about working with traumas that you don't remember. I'll link to that one in case you'd like to check it out.
Can you process a trauma you don't remember? - th-cam.com/video/dv7lOnbk03w/w-d-xo.html
@@teamlyon3109 Thank you! 😊👍🏻
what do i do when a lot of these feelings start coming up at school would pendulation work effectively so that i can carry on or ? not quite sure on this
Hi Zoe Bell, Jen here from Team Lyon. It depends on your nervous system capacity and the intensity of the feelings. If it's possible to pendulate, then yes, you can definitely try that. If it's an option to step away - to go outside, get a drink of water, etc., sometimes this can be helpful too. I'll link to two resources of Irene's that you might check out.
It they are helpful, you might adapt them or when it's happening, and you can also practice after the fact, when you feel like you have the time and space to do so.
DIY: Ancient Anxiety Medicine - th-cam.com/video/0ICsbXUCKmM/w-d-xo.html&lc=UgzKvm65Pqe9xARznlN4AaABAg
4 Simple Steps to Calm Overwhelm - irenelyon.com/4-steps-to-calm-overwhelm/
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and what if its a person you see every day like your own teacher
I think you should report it to the police immediately.
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I see potential in you. I cant see help in this video though
Is a permanent vaginal contraception like a spiral also a cause for trauma down there?
If it's your decision I think it's not a trauma. It's just your decision just like going to dentist.
It’s not about it being a decision or not; it’s about the body’s response. Irene (or one of her team) commented on another person’s comment about having an IUD inserted. It is traumatizing for the body, just as how a “routine” tonsillectomy can be very traumatic to the body. It’s not about the cognitive story of what’s happening; it’s about it being invasive towards the body and interfering with things in ways that are not natural for the body. It causes a survival response to kick in, even if you’re under anesthetic and can’t feel that happening. Just like in preverbal trauma where you don’t remember it but it still has an effect, surgery is the same and needs the appropriate work to allow the survival stress to move up and out.
Hope that helps. :)
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I use to think I was 2 people I would look in the mirror and I looked normal like I always did but I would feel different and thought I was really good at hiding horrible things that happened to me this was me in the 7 th grad e I use to go to my friend houses after school and wonder if their fathers did the same and they learned to be actors too later it was boyfriends yes Iwas screamed at too I just thought I was born bad It played out later in so many ugly self hating ways
Thank you!!