I’m a recently retired network manager and use the WLAN Pi for baseline analysis of private networks I support. It is a very cost effective and powerful Swiss army network discovery and management appliance.
I want to commend you for sharing 'The Wi-Fi Multi-Tool You Need.' This resource has really helped optimize my Wi-Fi setup. The user-friendly interface and comprehensive features make troubleshooting easy. Thank you for providing such a useful tool
Wait, there's an app for this on a smartphone. hehe Of course this box can do a bit more. But they should link it with a phone via Bluetooth as the GUI which is superior on a phone than this tiny screen. imo
Depending on your use case R4 or M4 has diff features. M4 takes POE. R4 can do otg If you have a pi4 order a compatible wifi adapter and try without FPMS.
Beautiful. I am literally working on a similar project 😂 This device has some of the features I was working on, and some I wasn't aiming for or even considering (because currently I am using microcontrollers instead of a single board computer). Or to be more exact, the shipment of devices for ny SBC prototype is still en route from China 😂
Ugh, I would love to have one of these for side projects I help out with. As of today, 27 AUG 2024, the WLAN Pi R4 BYOP Kit (not the fully assembled unit) is $231.89 shipped! I don't blame the developer; it just sucks to pay UK taxes.
Where are you located? If you are outside of the UK, you don't pay UK tax on items from the BadgerWiFi store. Many countries will apply local tax on import, but USA for example does not apply import duty or VAT on low value imports.
@@NickJVTurner I'd be ordering from the US, it would cost £140 + £18 shipping, roughly 1 GBP = 1.31 USD over the last 30 days. I'll just have to save up the money 🙂
I use Ethernet POE Splitters to power a number of Pi4 based projects. Would this be a good fit for the WLAN Pi? The splitter I use is rated to output 5V @ 3A, would the WLAN Pi software \ hardware run into issues with that power budget? It would think that only needing a single cable to the device would be attractive if deploying at a client site for extended periods
How fast of a Wi-Fi / LAN / WAN connection can this thing test? My RPi 4's Ethernet port gets 500 Mbps at best, and my home WAN service is now 3 Gbps symmetrical, with Ubiquiti 10 Gbps LAN and the U6 Enterprise In-Wall WAPs.
The Ethernet port of a Raspberry Pi 4 should max out around 940 Mbps, that is the maximum achievable throughput of a Gigabit ethernet port. On the USB 2.0 ports a Wi-Fi NIC would max out at 320 Mbps. On the USB 3.0 ports a Wi-Fi NIC would max out in the 2.4-2.8 Gbps range, this would require a USB Wi-Fi NIC and Access Point that could achieve data rates in excess of 3 Gbps. If your RPi 4 Ethernet maxes out at 500 Mbps, I suggest troubleshooting the cable, the hardware you are hooking the RPi 4 up to and then the speedtest methodology you are using. I don't understand the question regarding WAN testing.
Hey, Chris (and anyone else who knows), What is the name of the WiFi Scanner for Windows application? I watched that section twice, but I must have missed the name.
Not sure where to ask this question, hopefully some one will see this comment that has some ideas. I've got a enclosed trailer that i've converted to a camper, and my phone gets literally zero connection to the cell towers. I use this phone as a hot spot and place it on the roof of the trailer, and barely get wifi inside the trailer.... Is there a more elegant solution. I've tried a cheap wifi range enxtender, but it doesn't seem to play well with android's mobile hot spot.
Chinese sellers will sell better hardware (at least better than the tiny screen) for less and ship it for free, you just need to give them time. It's kinda sad that the world has become like this, but we can't deny the state of affairs
Considering how long the Rpi 5 has been out I can't understand why they are not using it as well. All of these individual packages and hardware that make up the device seem to all be supported on Rpi 5 so it should not be an overly different setup on top of Pi OS.
Probably because it's an open source project with people donating their time to make something awesome rather than just complaining online about how something should be. You should volunteer for the project and lead the effort to get it compatible with Raspberry Pi 5.
The shift from Bullseye to Bookworm (required by RPi5) takes some effort. We are working on that but we are not quite there yet. RPi5 runs significantly warmer than RPi4. So we are happy with the current setup.
Why would you want to use a Pi5? From what i can tell it wouldn't be better suited as the features it offers over the Pi4 aren't needed. It would just drive up the hardware price and i would expect much more people having a spare Pi4 over a Pi5. And AFAIK there is a commitment to produce new Pi4 until at least 2031. That seems long enough for now.
@@pearcomputers2542 Mainly because I already own 3x Pi 5 units and I don't own a single Pi 4 because they were near unobtainium for so long that I bought the Pi 5 when it came out instead because the Pi 5 units were cheaper to actually purchase where I live at the time. The other reason is that the Pi5 is built on roughly 4 years newer and faster hardware with support for NVME, RTC battery, faster WIFI and the idle power consumption is about 2-3 watts with the fully loaded power consumption being higher at 10-12 watts but still easily able to be cooled with a passive case. (I don't think I have ever seen any of my Pi5 units go beyond 8 watts unless I am powering a mechanical hard drive from the USB 3 port.
The pi 5 is too expensive for it's niche industry. The pi foundation seem to have forgotten what it's supposed to be. I realize that it's so powerful and such, but that not what the SBC industry wants. Look at the sales of the Asus Tinker Board or the NVIDIA Jetson Nano, people don't want expensive SBCs
Why do so many YT videos today like this have the PIP feed of the person talking? It's an unneeded distraction and adds nothing to the information being given.
It may not matter to you, but folks who are hard of hearing, or have English as a second language appreciate being able to see the words as they are spoken. It’s the same reason I take the extra effort to ensure my videos have quality accurate subtitles. Perhaps take a moment think outside your own worldview before commenting.
@@CrosstalkSolutions…uh, if a person is ‘hard of hearing’, would they not use the ‘quality accurate subtitles ‘you took extra effort’ to make? I missed something there, I think.
00:17 "Network monitoring on steroids"... you mean that, like steroids, using this gizmo can lead to early heart attacks, strokes, liver tumors, kidney failure, impotence, reduced sperm production in the testicles, and smaller testicle size? Or is it just time for a new catchphrase?
Well the rest of us can’t read what the dev say, because we didn’t know this existed And we don’t want to waste our time reading about stupid stuff If only there was somebody we liked and trusted to make a TH-cam video about stuff that we want to know about, to convince us to go read what the devs say We could watch the video, while our hands are busy doing some other project, and decide whether or not we wanted to go read what the dev’s say
Funny because there are products from several manufacturers that do these but cost thousands of dollars with subs. I could see this being useful in troubleshooting issues.
@@bananadane I don’t recall him mentioning it being a TFTP server, DHCP server, remote wireless cap device or that it’s a wifi console. This thing is very useful.
I have tons of friends involved in the WLAN Pi project, so I’m pretty thrilled to see it here! Great overview, thanks a bunch for this!
I’m a recently retired network manager and use the WLAN Pi for baseline analysis of private networks I support. It is a very cost effective and powerful Swiss army network discovery and management appliance.
Come on man! You made your video 13:39 minutes long? Why not 13:37!? :D - Always a great time with your content!
Actually he was thinking of doing 31:39 but then decided 13:39 is the best number to end it at 😂
I want to commend you for sharing 'The Wi-Fi Multi-Tool You Need.' This resource has really helped optimize my Wi-Fi setup. The user-friendly interface and comprehensive features make troubleshooting easy. Thank you for providing such a useful tool
Now on my must buy list.
Wait, there's an app for this on a smartphone. hehe Of course this box can do a bit more. But they should link it with a phone via Bluetooth as the GUI which is superior on a phone than this tiny screen. imo
Depending on your use case R4 or M4 has diff features. M4 takes POE. R4 can do otg
If you have a pi4 order a compatible wifi adapter and try without FPMS.
Both the WLAN Pi R4 and M4 can be linked via Bluetooth to your phone.
You can then access the webUI via browser on the phone.
Thanks, looks like a great tool for my bag.
Haribo Goldbären in the package - that can only be good stuff :D
I love the Goldbären !
Beautiful. I am literally working on a similar project 😂
This device has some of the features I was working on, and some I wasn't aiming for or even considering (because currently I am using microcontrollers instead of a single board computer).
Or to be more exact, the shipment of devices for ny SBC prototype is still en route from China 😂
Need something like that for cellular signals. Measure signal strength, carrier, and ability to create a sort of heatmap in 3 dimensions
kismet - you don't need to monitor the HT channels, they broadcast their presence if that's all you want to know on the standard channels
“it’s like wireless network monitoring on steroids…” Enters WiFi pineapple enterprise.
Amazed... Definitely buying this!
gummy bears included??? Nice! XD
Ugh, I would love to have one of these for side projects I help out with. As of today, 27 AUG 2024, the WLAN Pi R4 BYOP Kit (not the fully assembled unit) is $231.89 shipped! I don't blame the developer; it just sucks to pay UK taxes.
Where are you located?
If you are outside of the UK, you don't pay UK tax on items from the BadgerWiFi store.
Many countries will apply local tax on import, but USA for example does not apply import duty or VAT on low value imports.
@@NickJVTurner I'd be ordering from the US, it would cost £140 + £18 shipping, roughly 1 GBP = 1.31 USD over the last 30 days. I'll just have to save up the money 🙂
I use Ethernet POE Splitters to power a number of Pi4 based projects. Would this be a good fit for the WLAN Pi? The splitter I use is rated to output 5V @ 3A, would the WLAN Pi software \ hardware run into issues with that power budget? It would think that only needing a single cable to the device would be attractive if deploying at a client site for extended periods
Is that a UniFi mobile industrial in the background? The three antennas poking out behind your laptop…
Yes it is
I’m missing something, how is it not a more expensive/not as good Hack 5 Pineapple? Genuinely asking. Also, can you add GPS for wiggle?
Dang. Just having that Grafana setup would be amazing! Is there a way to set that up easily on Pi 5?
Not yet…
RPi5 requires Raspberry Pi OS Bookworm.
‘We’ (the project) intend to adopt Bookworm with the next release of WLAN Pi OS
That orange looks like it was 3D Printed in England.
How fast of a Wi-Fi / LAN / WAN connection can this thing test?
My RPi 4's Ethernet port gets 500 Mbps at best, and my home WAN service is now 3 Gbps symmetrical, with Ubiquiti 10 Gbps LAN and the U6 Enterprise In-Wall WAPs.
The Ethernet port of a Raspberry Pi 4 should max out around 940 Mbps, that is the maximum achievable throughput of a Gigabit ethernet port.
On the USB 2.0 ports a Wi-Fi NIC would max out at 320 Mbps.
On the USB 3.0 ports a Wi-Fi NIC would max out in the 2.4-2.8 Gbps range, this would require a USB Wi-Fi NIC and Access Point that could achieve data rates in excess of 3 Gbps.
If your RPi 4 Ethernet maxes out at 500 Mbps, I suggest troubleshooting the cable, the hardware you are hooking the RPi 4 up to and then the speedtest methodology you are using.
I don't understand the question regarding WAN testing.
Hey, Chris (and anyone else who knows), What is the name of the WiFi Scanner for Windows application? I watched that section twice, but I must have missed the name.
It's just called Wi-Fi Scanner - if you look through the WLAN Pi documentation/cookbook, there are guides for setup/install.
Check WiFi Explorer Pro and lswifi on Windows.
check out WiFi Explorer Pro for Windows
Grafana asks for a Login, what did you use to login please?
I use these everyday!! The WLANPi team are awesome 🎉
Not sure where to ask this question, hopefully some one will see this comment that has some ideas. I've got a enclosed trailer that i've converted to a camper, and my phone gets literally zero connection to the cell towers. I use this phone as a hot spot and place it on the roof of the trailer, and barely get wifi inside the trailer.... Is there a more elegant solution. I've tried a cheap wifi range enxtender, but it doesn't seem to play well with android's mobile hot spot.
Couldthid device be used to detect and identify hidden Wi-Fi cameras in an AirBnB? That's become an issues lately.
No - but the Fing Agent can! I'll have a video coming out about that soon...
Should have called it "WiPi"
Marketing and 'product names' are not a strength of the WLAN Pi project contributors.
Anyone know if this supports using the WiFiman scanner from ubiquity ?
let's hear the story behind the banana.
Haha - yea, I used that in my Starlink Mini video, but it ended up stuck to the Dream Wall. Nothing more to it than that.
@@CrosstalkSolutions I miss that one. I'll have to go back and look at it
How does this compare to the WIFIman Wizard?
Hmmm, that's called the Unifi app
Purpose of this..... Lol for at home
Banana??
For scale
Here before the bots!
Well, I'm here after you ... does that mean I'm a bot? ;)
Exactly what a bot would say!
@@chadderrington9983No but you can be one if you want.
@@DavidBezemerbut do bots acknowledge that other bots exist or know they’re a bot?
Did they use GPL code and modify it, and are their mods properly available? Or are they thieves? Source repo? 4:52
What does it do that an old Android phone doesn't ?
Do You have a link for that old android phone project?🤔
For $500 you'd be much better off just buying an actual computer. Not sure why you'd pay such a premium for a small LCD screen and a case.
Too bad it's not a US-based seller. Looks like a really cool project.
Chinese sellers will sell better hardware (at least better than the tiny screen) for less and ship it for free, you just need to give them time.
It's kinda sad that the world has become like this, but we can't deny the state of affairs
@@abo3abid1forget that.
Is there a US boycott of the UK?
Yeah but there are tons is US based developers for the OS.
@@abo3abid1 and more likely than not to have malicious hardware/software embedded
Meh
Considering how long the Rpi 5 has been out I can't understand why they are not using it as well. All of these individual packages and hardware that make up the device seem to all be supported on Rpi 5 so it should not be an overly different setup on top of Pi OS.
Probably because it's an open source project with people donating their time to make something awesome rather than just complaining online about how something should be. You should volunteer for the project and lead the effort to get it compatible with Raspberry Pi 5.
The shift from Bullseye to Bookworm (required by RPi5) takes some effort. We are working on that but we are not quite there yet.
RPi5 runs significantly warmer than RPi4. So we are happy with the current setup.
Why would you want to use a Pi5? From what i can tell it wouldn't be better suited as the features it offers over the Pi4 aren't needed. It would just drive up the hardware price and i would expect much more people having a spare Pi4 over a Pi5. And AFAIK there is a commitment to produce new Pi4 until at least 2031. That seems long enough for now.
@@pearcomputers2542 Mainly because I already own 3x Pi 5 units and I don't own a single Pi 4 because they were near unobtainium for so long that I bought the Pi 5 when it came out instead because the Pi 5 units were cheaper to actually purchase where I live at the time.
The other reason is that the Pi5 is built on roughly 4 years newer and faster hardware with support for NVME, RTC battery, faster WIFI and the idle power consumption is about 2-3 watts with the fully loaded power consumption being higher at 10-12 watts but still easily able to be cooled with a passive case. (I don't think I have ever seen any of my Pi5 units go beyond 8 watts unless I am powering a mechanical hard drive from the USB 3 port.
The pi 5 is too expensive for it's niche industry. The pi foundation seem to have forgotten what it's supposed to be. I realize that it's so powerful and such, but that not what the SBC industry wants. Look at the sales of the Asus Tinker Board or the NVIDIA Jetson Nano, people don't want expensive SBCs
Why do so many YT videos today like this have the PIP feed of the person talking? It's an unneeded distraction and adds nothing to the information being given.
It may not matter to you, but folks who are hard of hearing, or have English as a second language appreciate being able to see the words as they are spoken. It’s the same reason I take the extra effort to ensure my videos have quality accurate subtitles.
Perhaps take a moment think outside your own worldview before commenting.
Why have anyone talk at all. Just use AI voice over.
@@CrosstalkSolutions…uh, if a person is ‘hard of hearing’, would they not use the ‘quality accurate subtitles ‘you took extra effort’ to make?
I missed something there, I think.
@@CrosstalkSolutions Subtitles makes sense, but I never expressed any issues with those, but your PIP explanation doesn't.
00:17 "Network monitoring on steroids"... you mean that, like steroids, using this gizmo can lead to early heart attacks, strokes, liver tumors, kidney failure, impotence, reduced sperm production in the testicles, and smaller testicle size? Or is it just time for a new catchphrase?
All of the above :)
I didn’t need you to tell me about it because I can just read what the devs say. When you come up with something original let me know buddy.
You could literally use that analogy on most TH-cam videos. I don't think TH-cam is the place for you...
Well the rest of us can’t read what the dev say, because we didn’t know this existed
And we don’t want to waste our time reading about stupid stuff
If only there was somebody we liked and trusted to make a TH-cam video about stuff that we want to know about, to convince us to go read what the devs say
We could watch the video, while our hands are busy doing some other project, and decide whether or not we wanted to go read what the dev’s say
@@booradlly Strong agreement with the first comment. Not certain how to interpret the second.
yawn
This is a solution that is trying to find a problem to solve.
Funny because there are products from several manufacturers that do these but cost thousands of dollars with subs. I could see this being useful in troubleshooting issues.
Has solved a lot of problems for me. I own several.
I have use cases. Interesting vid
@@bananadane I don’t recall him mentioning it being a TFTP server, DHCP server, remote wireless cap device or that it’s a wifi console. This thing is very useful.