Key hated that it was forbidden to talk about him [Home Alone Ep 388]

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  • @ChelseaFC1996_
    @ChelseaFC1996_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9099

    That’s years of emotion that wasn’t allowed to be felt.. we all love you! Jonghyun would be happy you’re living your life to the fullest (:

    • @ChelseaFC1996_
      @ChelseaFC1996_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +118

      I just pray to god that the industry learns to treat their idols/actors better than during the years Sulli and Jonghyun. As Key basically says, theyre just people who perform, there’s a lot we don’t see behind the scenes. Let’s treat everyone like people with emotions, not products ❤️

    • @aisham_04
      @aisham_04 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@ChelseaFC1996_ that is so true, and now that many artists are going on hiatus cuz of mental health ( mingi from ateez, that one girl from twice, i’m sorry idk how to write here name) i think it might be changing for the better!!

    • @Pumpkin0_0
      @Pumpkin0_0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      They were allowed to be felt, they just weren't allowed to be expressed just yet.

    • @jimash1672
      @jimash1672 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ChelseaFC1996_ exactly they deserve atleast to be happy and live life's like others even tho choose to be public figure still they have all rights to express themselves and be happy. This vid was really heartbreaking in many ways✨

  • @Lcm2003
    @Lcm2003 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8252

    There is pain and love in his eyes at the same time. Kibum always radiated annoyed sibling energy but this shows how he truly cares about his members 🧡

    • @Julianna_w
      @Julianna_w 3 ปีที่แล้ว +171

      He has always had that sensitive side to him that sometimes slips thru the cracks and show when he's around people who are close to him. It broke my heart seeing him sobbing during Jjong's funeral but I'm glad he spoke up eventually, at his own pace. His time away at the military helped I guess.

    • @cmq23
      @cmq23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +93

      @@Julianna_w He must’ve felt sadder than most when news came out because he couldn’t come immediately. He was abroad for a photo shoot when it happened. The feeling of literally missing out must’ve eaten at his guilt for a while.

    • @Julianna_w
      @Julianna_w 3 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      @@cmq23 I don't think the rest of the members were ready to accept the news either but at least they were together. And speaking from personal experience, it is sometimes just getting hit by something like that which makes it difficult to grief immediately. Some people will feel numb and it may take a couple of days for reality to sink in and then the tears will flow. It could be the brain's mechanism for coping with grief

    • @aimmieebaek
      @aimmieebaek 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@Julianna_w umm..yea exactly that some people also includes "me" ✋🏻😶.. and let me tell you that's the weird yet worse experience you'll ever have... becoz the moment you realize is the moment you'll start having your own breakdown in every unwanted situation.. sometimes you just sit and suddenly gets overwhelmed and the tear will come out without you knowing...and umm i cannot even explain actually how that feels..i mean i just hope THEY ARE ALL FINE that's all 🙂

    • @bbbbbbbbbb0
      @bbbbbbbbbb0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@Julianna_w yeah. I remember Onew said he had to go to therapy because he couldn’t shed tears at the time

  • @madeinbusanjkjm
    @madeinbusanjkjm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8588

    I also feel like people just forgot about him or are reluctant to bring him up in conversation. It feels strange espcially since he touched so many of our lives. I always think and talk about him often and miss him every day so it's strange to see everyone just kind of pretend like he was never here.
    I feel so bad for Key when he said that the proccess of grieving was long and painful. The members had to just kind of move on but the pain in their hearts remained. I'm glad Key mentions him now whenever he wants to. The pain of losing someone you love never really goes away but I'm glad he is doing a bit better.

    • @muntaha681
      @muntaha681 3 ปีที่แล้ว +164

      I think, everyone is just cautious. On my Shinee videos, you will often see "5HINee" but explicitly his name less. I guess people just do not want to make shinee members sad. But like Key said, its okay to talk about Jonghyun. 🧡

    • @daysjours
      @daysjours 3 ปีที่แล้ว +120

      @@muntaha681 Ultimately, I imagine it is more painful for Jonghyun to be erased. Best always to talk about him because that way he remains alive in our hearts.

    • @kickrockspleze
      @kickrockspleze 3 ปีที่แล้ว +105

      I don't think he was forgotten. I think people process grief differently. When Key was ready, he talked about it. I know people now that still cannot listen to Shinee without breaking into tears. I think also many people didn't mention it because they didn't want those that were still grieving to suffer more. I applaud him for being able to speak about that vulnerable time in his life and I hope that he and others now have the access to proper tools for their mental wellbeing.

    • @nctzeninshineeworld1504
      @nctzeninshineeworld1504 3 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      @Arhie NyarK what did you know about clinically depressed people and what they can do? And where did you get this theory? Don’t try to spread misinformation

    • @k-kmic7483
      @k-kmic7483 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      @Arhie NyarK my goodness you dont even realize you are one of those people who'll get on other people's nerves.

  • @Yeodoongiiie
    @Yeodoongiiie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8670

    I mean... he didn’t just die. You know... he was probably talking to Kibum and the other members often. About his pain. And one day. They got a call he had taken his own life. They carried his body to the funeral. They had to perform songs he used to be a part of. Fans all over constantly talking about him. Media trying to cause a reaction out of them ... imagine you are “normal” person and your friend takes their own life. At least you get privacy to grieve. SHINee had to keep going for the fans, for themselves, for their careers.
    OF COURSE it haunts them even today. Of course Kibum’s pain is huge. But the fact he has chosen to openly talk about when he wants, shows he is trying to deal with this grief in the healthiest way possible. You can’t keep living in denial. You also can’t talk about it all the time especially not publicly. Losing and idol and artist and losing a close friend is very different. When fans say they miss him, it can never be how SHINee miss him. So I hope people are respectful and I am proud he talks about it. I don’t understand why people keep saying they are shocked to see he has emotion and isn’t always just sassy. You don’t know much if you think he is just a shallow fashionista. He is a human and a very sweet and emotional one at that.
    Sweet Kibum. My heart goes out to him.

    • @danielledixon1211
      @danielledixon1211 3 ปีที่แล้ว +240

      This....was beautifully put and deserves to be seen by everyone. Thank you

    • @gtfo3609
      @gtfo3609 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      ❤️❤️

    • @teresahowells4879
      @teresahowells4879 3 ปีที่แล้ว +139

      "he didn't just die". If he had had an accident or incurable illness the grief and sorrow would have been shocking, but to suffer his loss that way...

    • @bitchesproofbarbie
      @bitchesproofbarbie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +183

      I agree, at least Jonghyun is now resting from all the hate and insecurity. I can't deny how often I say "oh man, if him were here, everything would be different", he just didn't left the group, he left life, we will never going to listen about him, and that's the saddest thing. SHINee is probably the strongest group out there, because dealing with a death from suicide is just... I can't even describe it.

    • @imeunhae7933
      @imeunhae7933 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      Very well said. Also, in my experience, sassy people are actually quite sensitive usually.

  • @the_lorax9079
    @the_lorax9079 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3405

    At the end of the day, Jonghyun is so much damn more than his last moments. Everytime he made us smile, sing, swoon, and laugh our butts off...all of those were real memories that are not any less precious because of how he left this world. The music he gifted to the world should still be sung and the moments he made everyone lose it laughing should still make you chuckle. Don't diminish him. Don't avoid his amazing voice, his handsome-fine self or his name. He deserves better than that, always.

    • @daysjours
      @daysjours 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      He was so alive. So present. Such a high-wattage personality. That he left the world as he did does not in any way diminish the brilliance of the man. I agree with you.

    • @muaddibby
      @muaddibby 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      he was not his depression. he was a multifaceted person, and i wish people would just watch shinee funny moments compilations and laugh with him; watch him sing and be amazed at his talent; and not treat him as if he was a 1 dimensional character. most of these people didn't even care about shinee before this, tbh and just comment RIP on funny videos for likes

    • @MandySam13
      @MandySam13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I listen to his music all the time. Thats how I remember him. That’s my tribute to him.

    • @idilaa7389
      @idilaa7389 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I get so happy when “she is” randomly plays on my Spotify. It took awhile to not cry listening to his music but I’m glad it’s a bit easier now ❤️

    • @SakuraGurl808
      @SakuraGurl808 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      This is so true. His legacy is so much more than his final moments. He was full of life, and he shared that with everyone. His voice, his humor, his charm, he shared it all with us.
      Thank you for saying this and sharing the courage to remember him as the star he is.

  • @vhinehudas
    @vhinehudas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5828

    If you miss him, just say it. If you suddenly remember him, just say it. If you have a story that includes him, just say it. I'll support you and I'll do it with you.
    Whenever I miss Jonghyun, I watch his old videos. I leave a comment on every video. But not sad comments. More like, how I remember him as a person or sometimes as an artist.
    Also, it's better to just say his name. The pain subsides a little, whenever I do that.
    PS: My tears fell when he said the process of moving on wasn't easy. Whenever I think of their pain, I can't help but feel it as well.
    PPS: When Taeyeon said that the important thing is for them to be mentally healthy, I remember that, if I am not mistaken, she also confessed that she has depression. I got worried for her as well. Be strong, Taengoo. I know Key and the other members will always be there for you.

    • @Julianna_w
      @Julianna_w 3 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      I totally believe that Kibum has many good memories with Jjong. There is bound to be times in the future when he sees or hears something which reminds him of Jjong and I want him to fondly recall those memories instead of denying them because they are a part of his life 💙

    • @SakuraGurl808
      @SakuraGurl808 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      I also remember and recall the more happier times of Jonghyun.
      One thing I was fond of and miss about him is his laugh. Whether it was out of disbelief or just something he found funny, he had a hearty laugh that was contagious. His sense of humor also made me laugh even when I didn’t always get it.

    • @muntaha681
      @muntaha681 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      To be honest, I still can not bring myself to listen to old shinee songs because I feel scared...I myself deal with depression and listening to shinee was like therapy for me. But knowing that while I was smiling listening to shinee, Jonghyun was sad, that just breaks my heart. Hopefully I will muster the courage.

    • @vhinehudas
      @vhinehudas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@muntaha681 I have depression as well. It was very easy for me to listen to the old songs. I can still pretend that Jonghyun was still alive. What I found hard at first was listening to the songs during TSOL era because those were proofs that Jonghyun isn't here anymore. I even stopped supporting them during Countless because I couldn't take it anymore. But then, I realized that this isn't what Jonghyun would have wanted me to do. If he could only talk to me, I know, he would say that the members need my love and support so I braced myself. Also, he wasn't sad all the time. There were times when he was genuinely happy and I believe that those times were when he was with the members. I know it is hard but I do hope that in time, you will be able to listen again to shinee songs with a smile on your face.

    • @vhinehudas
      @vhinehudas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@SakuraGurl808 Even though it is strange, what I miss about him is his sudden outbursts on variety shows. Those sudden outbursts are just so funny and it was always in good timing. Also, I love it when he supported Onew's gags. There were times when he even tried to defend and explain Onew's gags. . Lol.

  • @jucup
    @jucup 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2809

    I can't help but feel tearful when Key talks about Jonghyun. Key, especially during the shocking period after Jonghyun's passing, was very comforting to me. He was always communicating to Shawols. I was thankful that he wrote a letter to Jonghyun, or whenever he wore that Cartier ring that Jonghyun gifted him, or every time he posted an old never-before-seen picture or video of Jonghyun on his Instagram. And now, he's been so helpful in keeping Jonghyun's memory alive. It hurts to talk about Jonghyun sometimes or listen to his music or see his videos. When SHINee released new music, it was disappointing to not hear his voice anymore. Accepting that this is the present and the future now is heartbreaking. And also sometimes I don't want to bother those around me when talking about him, as if I can't move on. Grieving is hard. Moving on is hard too. I just want to say that I love SHINee. It's been 11 years since they have entered my life. They can do whatever they want (as long as it's not harming others) but I want them to stay healthy and happy. And to the sweetest fandom, Shawol, thanks for always being there. I hope you are happy and healthy too. We deserve this life. So live it in a shining way. I love you guys too.💎

    • @haaruhiii
      @haaruhiii 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Wow you just described how I've been feeling since we lost him. Thank you for putting it down to words ♥️

    • @littlecalamity7
      @littlecalamity7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Same here 💙

    • @ruchikasays
      @ruchikasays 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      We all feel that same way
      And i am proud of shawols being so strong always
      Love

  • @Anika-je2jo
    @Anika-je2jo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +738

    Key's eyes were telling so much more than his mouth... They miss him so much...

  • @eviandaj
    @eviandaj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1065

    It feels more cruel to ignore him, to erase him, to act like he didn't exist and create and live and love. I don't want sympathy when I talk about him. I want people to know that such a beautiful human existed, that he impacted me, that he taught me a lot. And that I miss him. I really really miss him. But he's not a taboo, he's not a poster child for sadness or kpop. He's just Jonghyun. Our Kim Jonghyun, our moon.

    • @norahkaste9591
      @norahkaste9591 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      This comment needs more likes

    • @BoyWonder.67
      @BoyWonder.67 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      This is my only fear which is I’ll be erased or like forgetting

    • @m.st.6657
      @m.st.6657 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Indeed! To be honest, I felt a bit weird after their 13th anniversary Vlive... Jjong was hardly mentioned, maybe once when they talked about who composed a certain song. I don't want to blame the other members for not speaking about him on that bittersweet day (because I'm sure they did that in private), but I almost forgot he's a member of SHINee during those 2 hours. Although of course he is, and we all miss and love him.
      But we don't want to force them to open up about Jonghyun (especially after what happened two days before, on the 10th Japan debut).
      When they are ready, they will talk warmly and naturally about him, as Key said here. We'll support you! SHINee 💎 5 forever!

    • @anisa3962
      @anisa3962 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      so fucking true omg

    • @thaisaven
      @thaisaven 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're right in every single word 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

  • @cannot_find_aNisha
    @cannot_find_aNisha 3 ปีที่แล้ว +805

    Someone who has been a big part of your life...sometimes you just forget that they are not here anymore...you naturally talk about them...

  • @exosheeep3716
    @exosheeep3716 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1581

    The amount of love I saw in kibum's eyes was unmeasurable...it literally brought tears in my eyes...jonghyuna we always love you and we're always there to support shinee...our boys have really gone through a lot ...but they really did well...seeing them happy just makes me feel happier...

  • @FlorEme_
    @FlorEme_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +556

    When someone mentions Jonghyun, there's a silence after that that I really hate.
    What happened was a real tragedy (sometimes I feel a lump in my throat too). But he was not that. He was a talented, sensitive and funny person.
    I wish people could talk more about the beautiful things he did. And It's important to talk about mental health too.

    • @MandySam13
      @MandySam13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Yes the “silence”. Then the glossing over. I wish people would just make it normal to talk about him. Yes it’s hard, but say his name. Remember he existed and don’t deny it. These guys can’t, he’s part of them, part of their legacy as SHINee. I always feel it. I feel they miss him. I felt it when I watch their Beyond Live. In spirit he’s always present.

    • @m.st.6657
      @m.st.6657 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly!

    • @wiztiny9910
      @wiztiny9910 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      and i noticed its always non shawols who do that….🙃

    • @andieallison6792
      @andieallison6792 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wiztiny9910 stop turning this into fanwar bullshit.

    • @iyanshi9765
      @iyanshi9765 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@wiztiny9910 I find it super annoying aswell everytime I find comments saying I'm a non shawol but it's so sad that jjong is no more under his songs like let me just enjoy the damn song,the comment section under his songs is basically filled with such comments and veey people wrote something like wow he's a very talented singer without bringing his death

  • @meysasella2283
    @meysasella2283 3 ปีที่แล้ว +229

    I just realized that Taeyeon is such a good listener and so mature. She is really like a sister to him!

  • @IDTS8243
    @IDTS8243 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1633

    I only wish he was able to feel how much he was loved, embrace it and accept it when he was with us, depression is such a horrible thing, it really eats you up. But I hope now he is at peace, looking down on those who remember him with a smile on his face. You did well =)

    • @jo5206
      @jo5206 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Yes depression is really hell and some people don't understand how serious it can get , like if someone was says anything mean your mind just keeps replaying endlessly , it self esteem is reduced to ashes it it's a horrible place to be in honestly . People need to be more empathetic and stop seeing it as taboo too. A lot of Asian countries need mental health awareness . I'm from India and it's 💀close to non existent here .

  • @elle95x
    @elle95x 3 ปีที่แล้ว +273

    Key is so strong. The other members too. I cannot imagine the pain and grief they’ve dealt with behind closed doors to then put a smile on and perform for us, with constant reminders of Jong. I hope they continue to live happily and healthily and can lean on each other through hard times. I just know Jong is so proud of them and their achievements and will always be watching over them.

    • @MandySam13
      @MandySam13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Even as a fan hearing the songs with lyrics he used to sing being covered by another member hurts. Imagine having to sing his lines? I always feel connected to their feelings, their pain. That’s why I care for these guys so much. They feel like family, not stars to me.

    • @elle95x
      @elle95x ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @AN-Nuke M do me a favour - delete that whack af reply and go stand in the corner and think about what you’ve done

    • @trillian777
      @trillian777 ปีที่แล้ว

      @AN-Nuke M Bad enough having to deal with that loss and get back to work, having to deal with random internet psychos judging them for not grieving sufficiently in the public eye on top of that. Eat dirt.

    • @shivanirajput4571
      @shivanirajput4571 ปีที่แล้ว

      @AN-Nuke M How do you know that? were YOU there?Did you ever think what they must have felt? our grevience as fans is wayy less than them.. they lived with him 24-7 (for years)

  • @DGLeo482
    @DGLeo482 3 ปีที่แล้ว +297

    What's worse than feeling sadness is not being able to express it. When you're sad/stressed you can cry it out, and eventually you'll run out of tears to cry and come in terms with your grief. But what pushes people in deeper abyss in having to smile through grief. It messes up the strongest of people.

    • @lollypop3718
      @lollypop3718 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Beautifully said. Thank you, DG 482

  • @raft.rainydayz3163
    @raft.rainydayz3163 3 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    It is very brave of Key to be so vulnerable and so honest. It is not easy.

  • @Soldrakenn
    @Soldrakenn ปีที่แล้ว +63

    I always counted on Key to be the one too speak out, it really honors him and Jonghyun and SHINee the way he handles it, I love them.

  • @axelalexander9369
    @axelalexander9369 3 ปีที่แล้ว +285

    We all know the most cheerful person is the one who struggled a lot holding tears. My heart broken into pieces seeing key's face how grateful he is that he can talk about his feeling 😭😭😭 we love you SHINee ot5 ❤❤❤

  • @sidd0815
    @sidd0815 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I am a aroha. I stumbled upon this video. After listening to Key's words, I feel a little relieved? Idk how to word it. After moonbin left us, it's been really hard for us. Now I understand. 'Instead of avoiding it, mention whenever you miss your loved one, you lost'

  • @jasoncheung09
    @jasoncheung09 3 ปีที่แล้ว +424

    Don't be sad bc he passed, smile bc he existed :)

    • @daysjours
      @daysjours 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      I have a friend whose 18 year old son dropped dead one morning right in front of her. He had a congenital heart condition that had gone undetected. By the time she had become my friend he had been gone 10 years. She said, ¨He was a gift in my life. His existence was a gift. And that is how he remains despite his no longer being here.¨ She truly embraced what you said and I knew she truly meant it. She had transformed her grief into gratitude.

    • @shiuliparijat3393
      @shiuliparijat3393 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@daysjours woah! She is amazing. I wish her and you good fortune. 🧡

    • @daysjours
      @daysjours 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shiuliparijat3393 thank you. Wishing you the same ❤️

  • @nadiarahmah856
    @nadiarahmah856 3 ปีที่แล้ว +365

    I'm glad he spoke abt this.. after what happened, all of SHINee members worked really hard, non stop, and even 3 of them join the military almost at the same time, taemin keep doing solo activity (and superm). During 2018, whenever they mentioned (or be asked) abt Jonghyun, it was always become sensitive topics. Like what Key said, i feel like people tried to make some issue abt what happened.
    SHINee has strong bonding between the members. I'm happy that they remember Jonghyun (and they want us to do so) in such positive way

  • @Julianna_w
    @Julianna_w 3 ปีที่แล้ว +195

    I can relate to what Kibum felt as I've also lost a loved one 2 years ago. Seeking closure doesn't mean you'll love the person less. It allows you to accept what has happened and properly move on with life. And I love what Narae commented as well about missing and honoring a person in a healthy way 😊

    • @natalias3502
      @natalias3502 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It happens the same to me. Every word he said reminded of that person I've lost and I'm trying to do the same. It's a tough path, mostly when that person left unexpectedly

    • @soniavinluan8979
      @soniavinluan8979 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Me too, I lost my best friend last 2018 due to breast cancer. Sometimes I think about her and I want to hug him like a sister..

    • @santeriabanks2930
      @santeriabanks2930 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I currently lost three members of my inner circle in 2022 and all three funerals were attended. The most painful was my best friend of twenty seven years. Thanksgiving and Christmas hurted because he would call me and joke around with me on those holidays. And now, all I hear is silence. No more phone calls. No more jokes. No more of anything. How fast the road can turn. But, I got to carry on and live for myself now. Every day it gets better but, the pain is constant.

    • @Julianna_w
      @Julianna_w ปีที่แล้ว

      @@santeriabanks2930 I'm terribly sorry to hear that. I've lost a couple of schoolmates to illness too. I think it makes us more aware of the cycle of life, how some things are inevitable and how we need to appreciate those who are dear to us.

    • @santeriabanks2930
      @santeriabanks2930 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Julianna_w : How true you are. Alot of us are just trying to really grasp this thing called life and yet, it's mystery is a mystery in itself. I guess what I've heard is true then. Live for today because tomorrow is never promise. Live to the fullest extent like it's golden and you will never regret it nor lose it.

  • @calmoros
    @calmoros 3 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    I honestly love it when people talked about Jonghyun,it only means that he is still living in the memories & hearts of some people & it actually makes me proud as someone who loves Jonghyun so much.💜

    • @m.st.6657
      @m.st.6657 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agreed!

  • @SakuraGurl808
    @SakuraGurl808 3 ปีที่แล้ว +344

    It’s okay, Key. We all handle grief differently, and we shouldn’t be judged for it or seem pitiful because of it. It’s okay to say you miss Jonghyun, I miss him too.

  • @soldecle
    @soldecle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I also feel like Key took this opportunity to also tell Taeyeon, who must have felt the same way, that it was okay for her too to miss him and talk about him.

  • @erikan5662
    @erikan5662 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    I needed this today. Every time I mention something about Jonghyun, even and especially when it's something happy, I get ignored in my kpop discord server. My friend told me that when the others first met me, they thought I was weird because I got too excited about him. Is it really that pathetic, that I care about him? What's really pathetic is that we can't even talk about him, the good or the bad, because of the same stigma that killed him. Knowing how he felt about being honest about his mental health makes it so painful to see how little anything has changed. Rather than confront mental health and suicide, we let it fester. And it kills people. It killed him. It almost killed me. Jonghyun is worth remembering. If it means I cry on the seventeenth of December every year, it's worth it to remember what a lovely person he was. A sensitive, sweet man. A man who loved his dogs and loved his friends and advocated for LGBT rights and ran a radio show to give people comfort. The man who helped me, helped so many people, even though he couldn't ask for help himself. Let's please all remember him. Let's talk about it.

  • @sramas757
    @sramas757 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    That is why I love Kibum and how honest he is about his feelings.

  • @28kimboslick
    @28kimboslick 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Taeyeon feels like a comforting friend if that makes sense ! Although she may not be referring to me but I felt a sense of comfort from her advice! Her and Kay are lucky to have each other!!! 😭😭❤️❤️

  • @tanishamadhavan1678
    @tanishamadhavan1678 3 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    I am not yet at the same comfort with what happened to me, but I'm glad to see that it can be done. Key is such a mental health icon and people don't talk about it enough. His bluntness, honesty, and tsundere-like kindness are so fun to watch. It makes me remember how good people really are past all the music, makeup, and walls they may build up in front of them. I hope Key can continue to be open about his feelings!

  • @roxyjuanes
    @roxyjuanes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    When the incident happened, I wasn’t into shinee as much, but I took about a year fir me to start listening to K-pop again

  • @nifalala9233
    @nifalala9233 3 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    When key said "we have to mentally and physically healthy" ...

  • @courtneycooper4905
    @courtneycooper4905 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    It’s okay to miss him. It’s okay to talk about him. He touched a lot of lives with his music and with Shinee. He shouldn’t be forgotten, we should honor him in any way we can. And I know Jonghyun would be so proud of you and the others for continuing even when it’s hard..

  • @beomgyuluvr1
    @beomgyuluvr1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +128

    remember jonghyun as an amazingly talented artist and a kind-hearted person. please dont feel like you cant talk about him when youre just talking about him as a person and not his death. its important to not reduce his whole being to a tragedy. he is so much more than what happened to him.
    5HINee forever and always

  • @maryjoy178
    @maryjoy178 3 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    There's no need for you to hide your longing for a friend who had gone to rest eternally. Your emotions don't make you lesser of who you are. It's not a weakness. It's not a shame. It will never be a curse. It's a part of your cycle of life. It's okay not to be okay. It's okay...

  • @shawolforever5665
    @shawolforever5665 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    3 years and I still cry when someone mentions his name, I still cry listening to his voice. I don't know when will I be able to move on. I know his happy now. I just miss him so much.

  • @Hersheychocolate12
    @Hersheychocolate12 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Still crying, I always think of his face on that IG video. I hope if there is a afterlife he’s doing well filled with love and light

  • @warmlavender5525
    @warmlavender5525 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I’m so happy Key is accepting his grief and what happened. Just want healing for him and all of Jonghyun’s loved ones. It’s brave to be vulnerable like this on TV.

  • @jaeyoonsbojogae9026
    @jaeyoonsbojogae9026 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Key's eyes made me tear up.. they've been holding so many emotions

  • @miliss
    @miliss 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I discovered Shinee last year. And even though I came late for the news, I'm deeply moved by how this guys care for each other. They are a brotherhood of 5. Forever. And the fact that they still want to keep Jonghyun near,by mention him, bringing back the memories and saying how they miss him, makes me love them a million times more.

  • @King_Jonghyun
    @King_Jonghyun 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    It's okay to miss him every day. It's ok to cry or smile thinking about him. And it's okay to talk about him, because we love him.

  • @user-ib1is7ny7r
    @user-ib1is7ny7r 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    jonghyun would be SO proud of all of them.

  • @yumiulrich4eva
    @yumiulrich4eva 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    We all should talk about Jonghyun. His achievements, his kindness and his struggles. Jonghyun is love. ♥

  • @Quinn-bx1to
    @Quinn-bx1to 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Thank you, uploader, for not making clout by mentioning his name too, all the comments now are healthy and supportive as true fans should. Thank you, again.

    • @RaeLorin
      @RaeLorin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Late reply but I partially feel that not putting Jong’s name in the title could be seen a couple of different ways. I can’t help but think it could come across like ‘Key says it’s ok to mention his name but we still won’t,’ which could be seen as undermining Key’s point. I know that isn’t the likely intention of the title but it’s something I thought about. I agree with you tho. Spreading positivity encourages positivity. 👑💎💎💎💎💎👑

    • @Quinn-bx1to
      @Quinn-bx1to 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RaeLorin its not that we don't agree, because i feel very proud and happy 'in a good way' when the shinee members mention his name. But y'know how some people overreact under the comment section in each oppurtunity they find, so it feels slightly unpleasent, for me....

    • @RaeLorin
      @RaeLorin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Quinn-bx1to Fair point Quinn. I appreciate your thoughts.

  • @smeraldonabi6113
    @smeraldonabi6113 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I personally don't avoid talking about Him, because I don't want to fee like everyone has forgotten him already, so it's okay to talk about him, and it's okay to miss him too, hopefully He will be remembered forever.

  • @flwrgyu2173
    @flwrgyu2173 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    we are always supporting shinee!! missing jonghyun always

  • @abegail1294
    @abegail1294 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Jong Hyun taught them a very important lesson, to be physically and mentally healthy. And I'm glad that the lesson reached them and it was not put into waste. Jong Hyun loved them so much, and they loved him as much . Let's all be healthy ^^

  • @nuzuliamutiara3660
    @nuzuliamutiara3660 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    That's true. I feel same like kibum. If you miss him, just say it. It means you still remember him as a person.

  • @nivedNnethan
    @nivedNnethan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It's good they express their love to their member... We all know how hard it is for them.. but it's good to remember him

  • @popkitlum8415
    @popkitlum8415 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am so glad Kibum feels better talking about Jonghyun- talking about his feelings should definitely be encouraged as it is healthy for his healing.

  • @TayGuedesM
    @TayGuedesM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I felt so glad after I saw this. Jong Hyun was a genius and deserve to be remembered. We need to talk about losts, mental health and suicidal. It's not a easy topic but we still have so many stigmas about those things.

  • @kitkatt430
    @kitkatt430 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Jonghyun to me will always be more than just another celebrity that committed suicide. He's much more than that. He was a great singer, songwriter, composer, and all around talented man. He seemed very compassionate and sensitive, especially regarding his friends, family, and things he believed in. I hate when people think that just because you die suddenly it's kinda tabu to talk about them as if that person never existed. It's ok to talk about them, cry over your loss, and remember happy times with your lost loved one even if that person happens to be a celebrity.

  • @deb4908
    @deb4908 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They lost a dear friend in difficult circumstances but it’s important to talk about him because he was part of their lives and he deserves to be remembered- we all do. I talk about my late husband because I want people to remember him and if I’m sad sometimes it’s OK, because I miss him, but I never want his name to be taboo.

  • @byakuya98
    @byakuya98 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Key’s very brave for openly expressing his thoughts and feelings about Jonghyun.

  • @a_lost_staysider
    @a_lost_staysider 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    and talking about him doesnt always have to be a sad thing

  • @byakuya98
    @byakuya98 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's been four years since his passing and at this point Shawols only reminisce about Jonghyun with fondness and gratitude. Us Shawols were blessed to have experienced knowing Jonghyun and witnessed his dazzling artistry.

  • @bambaaeee
    @bambaaeee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    the pain you feel when you miss someone you've lost is a the proof that you've loved them. That's why it's ok to cry

    • @bambaaeee
      @bambaaeee 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I actually got this from a manga I read and it hit me so hard as a person who fears death and the death of my loved ones

  • @aaronyang12
    @aaronyang12 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I understand and relate so well to this. When my Dad passed away we would avoid talking about it or changed the topic but as time continued to move forward we started to accept it and understand that it's okay. You should be able to talk about it and still feel okay. Don't fear talking about it but accept it.

  • @twinkl3xoxo
    @twinkl3xoxo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Every once in awhile i'll suddenly think of Jonghyun and i'll go to his instagram. There are still thousands of new comments every day by his fans, and i take comfort in knowing that many of us miss him and are still keeping him alive in our memories.

  • @baguettefeet9994
    @baguettefeet9994 3 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    I was just thinking about him not long before I watched this

  • @elle7637
    @elle7637 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I miss him, I really miss him 😭😭😭 My ANGEL 🕊 😭😭😭 I hope you're happy up there 🤍🤍🤍🤍🤍🤍🤍🤍🤍🤍🤍🤍

  • @megreyes8242
    @megreyes8242 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    ☹️ losing someone isn’t a one time event. Even if you’ve “moved on” from the incident itself, there would still be times that you’ll think of the present/future you could have with that person

  • @hallaayachi9404
    @hallaayachi9404 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Even if we don’t mention him he is always living in our hearts with every breath we take😔😔💔💔💔💔💔

  • @monsieurtaeyong
    @monsieurtaeyong ปีที่แล้ว +6

    “i don’t think there’s a reason for me to run from it either. with a healthy mind, i accept what happened.” acceptance is never easy, it takes courage

  • @xoticsinx6279
    @xoticsinx6279 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Honestly it’s still hard talking about him be jonghyun doesn’t deserve to be forgotten. I Remember them video breaking down during his funeral it was so heart wrenching not only him being gone but how much it hurt them too. They’ve come a long way but it’s a process.

  • @haleyherbig1540
    @haleyherbig1540 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I mean I understand why he felt like he couldn't mention him, the media and people did use what happened to their advantage or to use to attack shinee or other idols. But I hope he stays with his usual who cares and mentions anyway for himself, shinee, and us fans. Cause I think its only way we can all slowly heal

  • @dianemasaki7599
    @dianemasaki7599 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think for some people, they hesitate to mention Jonghyun because it was just so sad and such a huge loss of talent. And without knowing how much the others have healed. You can see how much Key misses Jonghyun, but being able to mention him seems to me like a good sign. That he will always love and miss him but is healing.

  • @HanieJ
    @HanieJ ปีที่แล้ว +3

    His name is Jonghyun. A beautiful, kind, talented, gentle soul. He's funny and sweet. Check out his discography. The man is amazing 😍

  • @wennessa94
    @wennessa94 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I’m glad that they are finally able to express their feelings and mentioned about the late Jong hyun more openly and freely... I mean idols/singers are human too and being an idol is just like any other professional job, they are allowed to be not the most perfect/ not always happy and instead opened up about their problems and struggles ... hence they don’t feel too depressed... And we as the fans should respect and be supportive...

  • @yourstrulycam
    @yourstrulycam ปีที่แล้ว +8

    jonghyun isnt just a fancy suicide, he was a person living and breathing with a heart. the day society is able to see shinee and jonghyun as more then just a member who committed suicide is the day i die in peace.

  • @jkurkdjian
    @jkurkdjian 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    i hate how many shawols on twitter and other social platforms are often told "don't talk about jonghyun that way" when we joke about him and his personality. i am allowed to talk about things that he did/said that made me laugh or smile or things I want to comment on. just because he's physically not here doesn't mean he doesn't exist, or that he shouldn't be spoken about like any of the other shinee members. let us reminisce about jonghyun and talk about him as if he were still around. I'm sure he would've loved people talking about how amazing his voice is even now. kibum said it himself, shawols say it, so leave us alone and let us remember jonghyun for his talents and personality rather than a tragedy.

  • @aliisarantanen5574
    @aliisarantanen5574 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I think Kibum’s way of remembering Jonghyun is very healthy. He does it out of love, longing and respect for his friend, his brother. The way the others (meaning all other media and SM) are handling the situation is wrong: it’s okay to say his name, it isn’t a taboo that you have to hide in order to get over it. By mentioning Jonghyun, we also remember/honour him and the amazing things he did and is still doing after all these years. Do not forget him, keep him alive through our memories and feelings 💜

  • @myradiantstarrr1302
    @myradiantstarrr1302 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is so moving. I loved what they said at the end-that it’s important to be healthy mentally and physically. Part of that is allowing ourselves to say what we need to say❤️ It’s so important for Key to talk about his Precious Jonghyun

  • @jeanneli1914
    @jeanneli1914 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Do y’all remember when jonghyun was singing Krum and fell on his face? That shit was hilarious

  • @roslaniungi5233
    @roslaniungi5233 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can feel Key.. Because I lose my bestfriend in October last year..at first we avoid to talk about him..because we feel sad and he might sad over there..but now we keep remembered our memories with him and laughing about how funny he is when he still with us..

  • @melissapinto4424
    @melissapinto4424 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This made me cry so much. I love Key. He's so genuine. ❤

  • @Duchessclotho
    @Duchessclotho 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Grief never goes away. You learn to deal with it over time, but it never is gone. Talking about them and honoring them helps lessen the sadness. I admire Key for facing his grief and not running away from it. I respect him a lot.

  • @mmabellee
    @mmabellee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    He was an amazing person. He touched many lives and saved many lives through music. Communicate with us through music. His music and creation is one of the reason I keep going. He was my happy virus and now that he is gone, it feels empty. Losing someone I love was always something I experience a lot but I can't do anything to bring them back. I'll just accept the reality and move on. Its not easy but....there's thing that weren't meant to be

  • @dulceamormaytemartineztole9800
    @dulceamormaytemartineztole9800 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I think our Kibum has processed everything in a very mature way ... and it is true to someone who was part of your life and was so important you cannot forget it so suddenly ... it is healthier to accept and Remember in a loving way.

  • @highdopamine29
    @highdopamine29 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    he will always be that most beautiful scar to people esp to these 4 guys... pls be gentle with ur idols... korea are so blessed to have these artist...💜💜💜

  • @riyabansal3955
    @riyabansal3955 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    There was a time when I felt why everyone not mentioning him. Is jjong oppa works has been forgotten. Why people behaving like he not existed.... I always want everyone to remember him and talk about him everytime and remain happy.

  • @jademorrison6854
    @jademorrison6854 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Talking about Jonghyun and even crying helps our hearts heal... People still mourn and shed a few tears and it's okay... Talking helps keep his memory alive.. Sometimes even laugh about what Shinee members did together amongst each other. It's all a part of the healing process. Take care God Bless........Kalina

  • @felixslettuuce7153
    @felixslettuuce7153 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It even haunts me until this day as I try not to get too sensitive and worked up when people mention him. So imagine how heavy the burden is on the members and other people around them. Coming to terms with grief is so hard and I'm glad they're doing okay now :)

  • @aishwariyadebnath1624
    @aishwariyadebnath1624 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    I swear if I saw anyone dumping their own feelings on them and pushing them to talk about Jonghyun I would personally come and shoot in their face. Let them (key, Minho, Onew, Taemin) talk when they feel like it and when they don't wanna, don't push them. Give them their space. I hated when the camera zoomed in his face when he was trying to hold himself back. The process of griev isn't easy. Just bcz after all these years they are finally talking about it doesn't mean we have to always push them. Let them come out of their zone by themselves. Under all these glitter and shine they are normal human beings with feelings like us. Let them talk about it the way they feel comfortable in.

  • @4Peace.
    @4Peace. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Wishing Key and SHINee much comfort and ease as their healing continues. These are still early days but Key, Onew, Minho, and Taemin are strong, they have good support systems, and we love them and are here for them. I'm grateful to Key for sharing his story. I still remember how awkward it was when people would try to express their sympathy to me, or the ones who would see me and walk the other way because they didn't know what to say. Grief is a process. It's healthy to express your feelings. I hope the media and the public will respect the privacy of the members and Jonghyun's family.

  • @estefela5
    @estefela5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I love and respect Key so much, it must be so hard for him, nonetheless he expresses how he really feels in the heart. Thank you Key for remembering and thinking about Jonghyun. We know you will always love and miss your hyung. I, as a shawol, love him and miss him too 😢 I think of him everyday, that helps me feeling less lonely.

  • @thatkpopsis
    @thatkpopsis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Key is so strong. Watching this again now that I’m a big fan of Shinee and it’s so sad. Such a tragedy to lose Jonghyun and he misses him so much. I’m glad Key is comfortable talking about him now and carrying on his memories.

  • @killerwasp102
    @killerwasp102 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I experienced so much grief when Jonghyun passed but nowhere near what the members experienced. I can't imagine how hard it was for them, especially having to do a huge concert 2 months after that day. They are unbelievable strong and I will support them 4ever

  • @rubyjane8606
    @rubyjane8606 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I became a fan of SHINee in 2019. I got to know about him after his passing. The more I see/listen to him the closer I got to him. sometimes listening to his radio show were the only moment I feel alive in each days. When I am at my lowest point or when I am lonely he is the first one comes to my mind, cuz he heals me. I feel like he is the only one who listens to me, who can fully understand me. I always talk to him like 'Jonghyuna... It's really hard for me, what should I do' .I owe a lot for him and I can't repay . sometimes I think do I deserve to miss him as much as fans who grew up with him.

  • @jigeesha3668
    @jigeesha3668 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'm happy he let out what his heart wanted to say for a long time..We all grieve in different ways and everyone takes their time to accept the reality..They were very close to each other and feeling like you're forbidden to talk about someone you love the most is very disturbing and hurts even more.. I'm happy that he realised this.. I'm happy coz we, as shawols understand them and I'm happy that they are healthy! I hope Shawols are happy and healthy too..I love y'all so much

  • @sunnyskies..
    @sunnyskies.. 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It’s okay to miss him. It’s been about 7 years and it still hits hard. It’s okay to just feel

  • @Catloaf189
    @Catloaf189 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I wasn't a shawol when it happened, but judging from the videos with Jonghyun that i saw and what kind of person he was, i think he would've wanted people to reminisce about his happy moments and talk about him fondly, instead of trying to avoid bringing him up. He would've smiled at the thought that after so much time, we still include him and gain strength and happiness from thinking about him, even if we also miss him alot sometimes. SHINee will always be 5 to us

    • @MandySam13
      @MandySam13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Forever Five. I like how people always write his name and if anyone misses it always corrects them. Jonghyun is a lifetime member of SHINee and every SHAWOL holds him in the highest esteem. Always.

  • @donasamuel8634
    @donasamuel8634 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really miss jonghyun and I can't hide the feelings I have at that time sometime I will cry or be sad and pray to God for him

  • @yocoolguy8766
    @yocoolguy8766 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Let go someone's sad memories and live with sweet memories. That's the best thing you can do for both you and the one who left you. 👍👏

  • @kpopstanunnie
    @kpopstanunnie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Jong hyun lost is a big sadness in SHINee and the whole SM artist and the whole kpop industry. Its so sad that some people think that shinee is using him to have a spotlight. They are brothers and they really love him

  • @claudiahurtado4222
    @claudiahurtado4222 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    shinee can always talk about jonghyun and it shouldn't be taken as something sad, they loved and still love him, and will love him forever.

  • @Syphong
    @Syphong 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We miss him too. In our own ways, we grieve for those people we lost even if we don't show it openly.

  • @renesmisen8122
    @renesmisen8122 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They can talk about our angel whenever they want. They need not feel pressure. More than us he is precious to them

  • @mariaabundantliving6965
    @mariaabundantliving6965 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I felt like I could exhale when he mentioned Jjong. I was relieved. I like to hear how they remember him, even tease him. It's how we do with my cousin that passed too young from cancer.
    Knowing they find strength helps me too when I feel weak.

  • @ForevaLaTrelle
    @ForevaLaTrelle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hope Taemin and Jinki grieved as much as they needed to and the right way. They both hold so much in and never fully voice their feelings.