One thing I love about the 529 is I’m 23, I don’t have any kids and I am currently in school. I opened a 529 with myself being the owner and beneficiary BUT I don’t intend on using it, I am contributing to it so that in the future if I have kids they can use it. The benefit I see over this is using compound interest to the advantage and start saving for them even before they are even born.
@@nanlinr since I’m the owner and beneficiary of it I have some flexibility, so if let’s say I didn’t have kids and passed away from my understanding the 529 won’t be part of the owners estate but would be part of the beneficiaries estate (but I’m both), if I didn’t have kids I could transfer the 529 , and in the event that I wanted too I could touch it for reasons not related to education and pay any taxes and penalty and use the funds as I wish. Personally for me I understand that would suck but it’s all part of planning for me, the benefits outweigh the cons at least for myself.
A benefit that I think is overlooked if I'm not mistaken is that the funds can be used continuing education. If you have a child that doesn't use all their fund you can simply name yourself as the new beneficiary and use them to fund your continuing education.
Twins just turned one on Tuesday. I opened a 529 for both on Monday ($75 a piece). By time they get to college and if I put in $50 a month then they should both be able to buy a nice pencil by time they start school. My first semester was $2800 my last semester was $4400. Fortunately I had a dad with $$. I don’t make half of what he made so I really have to start early. And if it tanks when they’re 18. They can get a job for 2-3 years because I sure as hell didn’t know what I wanted at 18. I’m 32 now and I still don’t know what I want to do.
Wow, my daughter just turned one and honestly one of the first things I thought was college savings. I'm 31 and have a good job, thanks to college, but I also dont know what to do with my life, I'm just doing this to pay the bills and buy shit I want when I want it lol
So G Money, let me ask you a question; what happens if your child doesn't go to college? The 529 is only for college. You can't use it for anything else 🤷
irregular mana you’ll be taxed like any other investment. The penalty is 10% on earned interest. Of course the market could crash and I could lose it all.
Penny Wright Bush actually it’s just like the stock market, the benefits of a 529 is that if it’s used for college the the earned interest is tax free, if your kid gets a full ride you’re penalized 10% of the earned interest. So if I put in $40k and at the end it’s worth $48kand both twins get a free ride then I’ll have to pay 10% on $8000 or $800. I’m trying to be nice, but why didn’t you just google it?
It’s better to open an Index Universal life. If child decides not to go to college he/she can use the money to buy a house, car or start a business or whatever they need the money for. IUL has Tax free withdrawals/loans. There’s growth, safety, tax advantages, and protection that 529 doesn’t have. 529 affects the students ability to get financial aid bc it counts as an asset. IUL does not.
Yeah. I feel like I know a lot about 401k and IRA but this doesn't make a lot of sense. What if my kid decides he wants to be a construction worker or join the military? Then I have to pay more taxes on it and also get penalized 10%!?
Just started watching your videos today. I’m right in the middle of kids and college plans. Great information for an investment newbie such as myself. Thanks!!!
10% penalty and income tax if you don't spend the money on college??? I would understand only if those dollars haven't already been taxed (similar to traditional IRA or 401k) but certainly not in this case. We're better off investing in mutual funds directly or just putting the money in a CD and have control over it.
The growth portion is what’s taxed. You won’t get double tax. The real issue with investing in CDs is college inflation is historically higher than regular inflation. So getting 2-4% in a CD defeats the purpose of investing.
@@TravisSickle what if I just invested individually into something like fxaix akin to a Roth IRA..could I then pull out contributions tax free and leave the growth or would it immediately get the capital gains tax?
From my understanding, if I'm a part time graduate student and name myself as the beneficiary, I can use the funds from the account to pay for rent, utilities, internet, computer, etc. Am I understanding this correctly or am I missing something?
Hey @Travis Sickle great video, was curious on the video you said would be at the top. One that talks about the better strategic choices when picking the funds for the 529?
Thank you for this video. We are just starting to fact find. If say a child decides they want to go to a culinary school, would you suggest contacting that school directly to see of they participate?
Yes, when you get into the trade schools you can reach out to the school because they'll know if they qualify. You can also check it out here... ope.ed.gov/dapip/#/home
My child is about to start college put of state fall 2024, is to late for me to enroll in a 529 plan, and if not can you guide me which direction to go in?
Hello my son in grade 10 right now,but i never know about 529 ,but i save some money in the bank for his college,but not much ,so what advice you can give to me please.
dude I think you're wrong if I understand correctly from your video to implying that it has double tax advantage being contributions tax deductible and distributions not taxing the gains but I think the only benefit is the later one
Would love to findout which states offer the state tax deduction and which ones with the lowest and fees and highest perfomances. And whuch ones has both.
So it's taxed twice? Once when it goes in,and again if you put too much in? Sounds like garbage. Better off putting it into and index fund and taking a hit only once.
You get taxed on what you put in, the growth is tax exempt if used for college or k-12. What he meant in the video by getting taxed twice was IF you put in more than will be used, the amount that isn’t used and isn’t transferred to another beneficiary, if you wanted to use it for anything else, the gain would be taxed but you’d also get a 10% penalty.
My daughter just started grad school. I prepaid her tuition and school fees as well as books, modules, etc. So far I have about $12,000+ qualified expenses. What happens if I take funds from my account that ends up exceeding the cost of this year’s college-related expenses? Will I get penalized for the unused portion even if it’s my own post-tax money I set aside? Is there a limit on how much per year I as the owner can take out? I know that it’s just the interest portion that will be taxed IF not used for college-related expenses. If I took $20K, would that mean I’ll be in trouble (penalized through taxes) for interest of the $8K if not used up for qualified expenses this year?
It looks like the 529 plan is tisky for few reasons, if my kid at the end find another way to have a career than going to college, I will have to ay taxes on those saving. What kind of interest return can I get from a 529 plan? What other ways are to save for college?
@@TravisSickle So how do I start a 529 for my kid. the stock market is at an all time high and there is uncertainty because of upcoming election and its results.
I need to do this.. My oldest starts going to college in 11 years she's 6 years old right now and then I have my youngest which is about to turn 3 this month but I want them to give them more opportunity that my parents weren't able to do, both of them did not go past high school and so because of that they could not really help me pay for my college so I didn't go which is now struggling trying to get the money and get shit together now to get back to college and I don't want that for my kids so this is a great tool for me to save money for my girls so they can go to any college they want and have options open instate or out of state and they can go wherever they're dreams and hopes desires
I wish i would of known to start this 16 years ago. Now i feel its to late to start daughter is 16 now. Im still in debt of my own college education. Wish my parents would of known of this.
A system where we allowed the government to guarantee all student loans, therefore causing a massive increase in tuition. Kinda like we did for healthcare.
If the gov stopped giving free money you would watch all universities crumble and their prices would go down to an acceptable market price. No more paying their sports coaches millions.
what if you put money into a 529 but your child and everyone else in your family including yourself do not want to attend college. Can you get your money back tax free?
Its awful that the limit is 15,000 annually. What if the school is $100,000 per year and my son is turning 8. I want to send him to private high school. So I only have five years to get to $400,000. I gotta get a lawyer to look at that. I guess its never too early to start saving folks. Looks like I'm too late.
My son just turned 1. About 6 months ago I placed $1k into an after tax investment account with Fidelity not really knowing about the benefits of a 529. Problem is I’m afraid to touch it now because the funds are the best performing in my whole portfolio! Probably just need to throw another $1k into a 529 and start over.
In all seriousness, I’m considering just having my kids take out student loans because at some point they’ll be forgiven across the board. It comes up every few years.
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One thing I love about the 529 is I’m 23, I don’t have any kids and I am currently in school. I opened a 529 with myself being the owner and beneficiary BUT I don’t intend on using it, I am contributing to it so that in the future if I have kids they can use it. The benefit I see over this is using compound interest to the advantage and start saving for them even before they are even born.
Love it. Good work!
What if you don't end up having kids though?
@@nanlinr since I’m the owner and beneficiary of it I have some flexibility, so if let’s say I didn’t have kids and passed away from my understanding the 529 won’t be part of the owners estate but would be part of the beneficiaries estate (but I’m both), if I didn’t have kids I could transfer the 529 , and in the event that I wanted too I could touch it for reasons not related to education and pay any taxes and penalty and use the funds as I wish. Personally for me I understand that would suck but it’s all part of planning for me, the benefits outweigh the cons at least for myself.
@@henryportillo2343 That's a good point. Thanks
@@henryportillo2343 thank you for that
A benefit that I think is overlooked if I'm not mistaken is that the funds can be used continuing education. If you have a child that doesn't use all their fund you can simply name yourself as the new beneficiary and use them to fund your continuing education.
That’s an excellent point.
Twins just turned one on Tuesday. I opened a 529 for both on Monday ($75 a piece). By time they get to college and if I put in $50 a month then they should both be able to buy a nice pencil by time they start school. My first semester was $2800 my last semester was $4400. Fortunately I had a dad with $$. I don’t make half of what he made so I really have to start early. And if it tanks when they’re 18. They can get a job for 2-3 years because I sure as hell didn’t know what I wanted at 18. I’m 32 now and I still don’t know what I want to do.
Wow, my daughter just turned one and honestly one of the first things I thought was college savings. I'm 31 and have a good job, thanks to college, but I also dont know what to do with my life, I'm just doing this to pay the bills and buy shit I want when I want it lol
I'm not alone 😭😱. I'm 31 with 2 kids. The amount of stress from bot knowing has given me complete anxiety.
So G Money, let me ask you a question; what happens if your child doesn't go to college? The 529 is only for college. You can't use it for anything else 🤷
irregular mana you’ll be taxed like any other investment. The penalty is 10% on earned interest. Of course the market could crash and I could lose it all.
Penny Wright Bush actually it’s just like the stock market, the benefits of a 529 is that if it’s used for college the the earned interest is tax free, if your kid gets a full ride you’re penalized 10% of the earned interest. So if I put in $40k and at the end it’s worth $48kand both twins get a free ride then I’ll have to pay 10% on $8000 or $800. I’m trying to be nice, but why didn’t you just google it?
It’s better to open an Index Universal life. If child decides not to go to college he/she can use the money to buy a house, car or start a business or whatever they need the money for. IUL has Tax free withdrawals/loans. There’s growth, safety, tax advantages, and protection that 529 doesn’t have. 529 affects the students ability to get financial aid bc it counts as an asset. IUL does not.
Im an insurance agent il check out our indexed UL plan
That’s amazing information
Wow..thx
Is this similar to an UGMA/UTMA?
No, a UTMA is simply an account in a minors name. The IUL is an insurance policy.
Just started one for my child who was born a month ago. Hopefully things work out and he has opportunities I didn’t or that I squandered.
I feel like I’m behind. My daughter is about to be 13 and my youngest is almost 3 I need to get started right away!!! Knowledge is power for sure!
Just do the best you can today. It doesn’t all need to be saved today. Continue throughout their college time too.
Same- have twin 13 year olds and we started late being parents- closer to retirement. Going to look at opening a 529 soon.
Yeah. I feel like I know a lot about 401k and IRA but this doesn't make a lot of sense. What if my kid decides he wants to be a construction worker or join the military? Then I have to pay more taxes on it and also get penalized 10%!?
very good explanation thank you!
Thanks for the info....gotta 10 year old I need to get going on securing a plan for her college future. Your commentary helps!
Same my kid is also 10
@@amilyaaa9425 which plans are you using?
What about Trade Schools and/ or coding schools. Can 529 fund non-traditional post secondary education?
Yes. It’s possible just check with the trade school to see if they qualify.
Just started watching your videos today. I’m right in the middle of kids and college plans. Great information for an investment newbie such as myself. Thanks!!!
Which plan did you choose?
So i can drop 50k in there n let it sit
@@victorcordero1458 you can, just make sure you invest it.
@@TravisSickle oh i thought it just builds interest overtime lol..
It could if you just leave it in a money market but that’s not smart. Just watch my other videos on my 529 plan.
I’m so confused
was doing some research on savings for college ...the algorithm re-directed me to this page ....
Thanks man definitely help me understand the 529 plan more.
Glad to help
Should I continue contributing to my daughter 529 considering the stocks have gone down?
Yes, buy more now!
Can I use a 529 plan and open one while im in college? I'm planning to transfer to to a 4 year next year.
Sickle Hunter Financial Advisors I figured. Thanks for the prompt reply!
You answered my question within the first 90sec. Thanks!
@@TravisSickle Before or after tax.
10% penalty and income tax if you don't spend the money on college??? I would understand only if those dollars haven't already been taxed (similar to traditional IRA or 401k) but certainly not in this case. We're better off investing in mutual funds directly or just putting the money in a CD and have control over it.
The growth portion is what’s taxed. You won’t get double tax. The real issue with investing in CDs is college inflation is historically higher than regular inflation. So getting 2-4% in a CD defeats the purpose of investing.
@@TravisSickle what if I just invested individually into something like fxaix akin to a Roth IRA..could I then pull out contributions tax free and leave the growth or would it immediately get the capital gains tax?
What type of short term investment plan would be good for 5-10 k over a year or two years before withdrawing to apply an education?
answered here th-cam.com/video/dAy6IXuzn3g/w-d-xo.html
So the money is only allowed to use funds for school ?
What's the song at the end of the video? Sounds like the one used in the minecraft trailer
From my understanding, if I'm a part time graduate student and name myself as the beneficiary, I can use the funds from the account to pay for rent, utilities, internet, computer, etc. Am I understanding this correctly or am I missing something?
That is also my understanding
Hey @Travis Sickle great video, was curious on the video you said would be at the top. One that talks about the better strategic choices when picking the funds for the 529?
th-cam.com/video/kqRrZbgDYi0/w-d-xo.html
Thank you for this video. We are just starting to fact find. If say a child decides they want to go to a culinary school, would you suggest contacting that school directly to see of they participate?
Yes, when you get into the trade schools you can reach out to the school because they'll know if they qualify. You can also check it out here... ope.ed.gov/dapip/#/home
@@TravisSickle Thank you very much. Enjoy these videos.
What do u think about U nest?
This was the best video gzzzzzzz
The money left in the 529 plan after school..we’re should it be put into thank you
My child is about to start college put of state fall 2024, is to late for me to enroll in a 529 plan, and if not can you guide me which direction to go in?
Contact our office, we can provide advice for a fee.
Hello my son in grade 10 right now,but i never know about 529 ,but i save some money in the bank for his college,but not much ,so what advice you can give to me please.
What is your question?
dude I think you're wrong if I understand correctly from your video to implying that it has double tax advantage being contributions tax deductible and distributions not taxing the gains but I think the only benefit is the later one
Some states elect to have an income tax deduction for contributions on top of the earnings being tax free.
Would love to findout which states offer the state tax deduction and which ones with the lowest and fees and highest perfomances. And whuch ones has both.
So it's taxed twice? Once when it goes in,and again if you put too much in? Sounds like garbage. Better off putting it into and index fund and taking a hit only once.
Where are you getting taxed twice?
@@progressforamerica6883 The fact that is after taxes
You get taxed on what you put in, the growth is tax exempt if used for college or k-12. What he meant in the video by getting taxed twice was IF you put in more than will be used, the amount that isn’t used and isn’t transferred to another beneficiary, if you wanted to use it for anything else, the gain would be taxed but you’d also get a 10% penalty.
Can you change beneficiaries?
yes
I live in Puerto Rico. Can i do a 529 on a different state and uses of a college in my state?
Possibly, depends on college.
About to start this for my 1 year old 😌
which plan did you choose?
@@TravisSickle honestly fell on tough times so we didn't end up doing it but we've gotten back on our feet now so that's our next step.
Are admissions in international schools (Australia, India), hostels, and other miscellaneous expenses qualified under 529?
Some international schools but not misc expenses.
Can you also invest the money you put in 529 in stocks, etfs while it’s sitting in there?
It's restricted to the investments inside the 529 plan.
Can multiple people contribute to a 529 plan?
yes, some of the 529 plans make it easy with deposit only links to those accounts.
@@TravisSickle thank you!!
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My daughter just started grad school. I prepaid her tuition and school fees as well as books, modules, etc. So far I have about $12,000+ qualified expenses. What happens if I take funds from my account that ends up exceeding the cost of this year’s college-related expenses? Will I get penalized for the unused portion even if it’s my own post-tax money I set aside? Is there a limit on how much per year I as the owner can take out? I know that it’s just the interest portion that will be taxed IF not used for college-related expenses. If I took $20K, would that mean I’ll be in trouble (penalized through taxes) for interest of the $8K if not used up for qualified expenses this year?
Only gains have the taxes and penalty. Only the portion not used for college expenses too.
It looks like the 529 plan is tisky for few reasons, if my kid at the end find another way to have a career than going to college, I will have to ay taxes on those saving. What kind of interest return can I get from a 529 plan? What other ways are to save for college?
checkout my channel for other ways to save...hindsight is always 20/20. a lot to unpack to give a clear answer.
Helpful, thanks!@
Do the 529 plan is like a roth ira where, the money you invested multiplies over time?
No, that’s not right. RMDs are only for traditional IRAs and it’s moved to 72.
So if its mutual fund like .... can your 529 college fund lose value? if the stock market goes down?
Yes
@@TravisSickle So how do I start a 529 for my kid. the stock market is at an all time high and there is uncertainty because of upcoming election and its results.
Assuming that I want to start with a lump sum and then contribute monthly.
Abhishek Srivastava do you think the market will be higher or lower when your child goes to college?
I need to do this.. My oldest starts going to college in 11 years she's 6 years old right now and then I have my youngest which is about to turn 3 this month but I want them to give them more opportunity that my parents weren't able to do, both of them did not go past high school and so because of that they could not really help me pay for my college so I didn't go which is now struggling trying to get the money and get shit together now to get back to college and I don't want that for my kids so this is a great tool for me to save money for my girls so they can go to any college they want and have options open instate or out of state and they can go wherever they're dreams and hopes desires
Can you explain the gift tax? If a child uses more than 15,000 a year on school they have to pay taxes?
Gift is on the contributions. The payments for school or distributions are unlimited.
Travis Sickle so as long as you don’t contribute more than 15,000 a year into the 529 then you don’t pay gift tax?
Does it hurt my financial aid?
Yes!
I wish i would of known to start this 16 years ago. Now i feel its to late to start daughter is 16 now. Im still in debt of my own college education. Wish my parents would of known of this.
Do you get a state income benefit on your contributions?
Can I start one if I am over 18 already for myself?
yes, as long as its used for college,
My son is already a sophomore and 2 years away from college.Can i invest a lumpsum amount in 529?
Yes
But what if you kiddos don’t end up going to college 😓 what then?
Roll to another child, or cash out with penalty of growth.
529 plan or a CD account for college savings. Thoughts?
10 months
@@kevinduong2068 lol
My son is 13 now. Is it too late to start a 529 plan?
Yes
No, it's not too late.
Here is the blog post of the 529 College Savings Plan Explained bit.ly/3qxZe0e
What kind of twisted system have we created when u have to save for education like u r trying to save for retirement. Which I don’t understand either.
A system where we allowed the government to guarantee all student loans, therefore causing a massive increase in tuition. Kinda like we did for healthcare.
If the gov stopped giving free money you would watch all universities crumble and their prices would go down to an acceptable market price. No more paying their sports coaches millions.
what if you put money into a 529 but your child and everyone else in your family including yourself do not want to attend college. Can you get your money back tax free?
contributions yes, earnings, taxed plus penalty.
Play on 1.5x speed
I watch almost all youtube videos on 1.5 - 2x If I speak faster people complain. Oh well.
Its awful that the limit is 15,000 annually. What if the school is $100,000 per year and my son is turning 8. I want to send him to private high school. So I only have five years to get to $400,000. I gotta get a lawyer to look at that. I guess its never too early to start saving folks. Looks like I'm too late.
Posted a response in Members section on this question.
Does the money have to be used for education? And what happens if I start this fund for myself and I don't end up having kids?
Yes.
Can you be both the owner and beneficiary of a 529 plan?
Yes
This would be a good setup if you’re planning to save for a future child. Not a huge benefit otherwise.
I hope I can use it to put my kids in private school. 😬
answered.
My son just turned 1. About 6 months ago I placed $1k into an after tax investment account with Fidelity not really knowing about the benefits of a 529. Problem is I’m afraid to touch it now because the funds are the best performing in my whole portfolio! Probably just need to throw another $1k into a 529 and start over.
I'll bet the account is doing just fine right now. It's okay to have multiple accounts. I have 2 529 plans for each of my kids.
Something about your voice reminds me of drake
Haha 🤣
hi
YOu don't know how to simplify the 529 -- its more complicated from your explanation
how so?
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No good?
I love my niece and nephew but not that much 😂
In all seriousness, I’m considering just having my kids take out student loans because at some point they’ll be forgiven across the board. It comes up every few years.
And that's the problem. Current student loan holders are thinking the same way and many are not paying in hopes of forgiveness.
Recommended in 2021 lol
Amazes me too that old videos pickup so long after posting
i thought Tom Hardy was about to give me some financial advice
Ha, it’s been a while since I got a Tom Hardy comment.
Why are you talking like an SEO / rankings robot? It’s very odd & distracting from otherwise helpful info
One of my earlier videos. Hopefully my new videos are better. I don’t try and talk like a robot 😥